Another case of violent radio amateurs, using highly illegal TX/RX equipment, bashing up hard working law enforcement officers trying to do an honest job of upholding the law. This is why the DTI must hunt down all radio amateurs, confiscate all their equipment and get rid of radio ham callsign certification. Radio amateurs are behind most of society's problems and the sooner we lock them up in Strangeways the better. Leave the radio to professionals like me. There is a reason why I'm a radio professional and you lot are radio amateurs.
I don't know whether to be offended or laugh at this comment, ham radio is a worlds apart from CB, we have to pass exams for a transmitting licence, that gives us a callsign and grants certain privileges depending on the level of licence you get. Also we're not the violent thugs you mentioned, ham operators are the most helpful and friendly, at least they are where I am, even CB wasn't that bad when I used to use it. It's a science hobby, I've done a lot of useful things with RF, in fact you have amateur radio to thank for your "professional" radio job, as it was experimenters in sheds that invented radio in the first place, so it all started as amateur. You've based your assumptions off of one bad actor and think the DTI should shut it all down... dream on, never going to happen 😊
This reminds me of the stories of the TV tax and the vans driving by homes with a detector that will pick up the fly-back transformer emissions to find unauthorized television sets.
As a uni student in the early 'noughties', I received monthly knock-and-barge in visits from the Telly Tax blokes. They were always incredulous that I did not own a TV set. I ended up threatening legal action for harassment before it stopped.
The man was utterly correct to defend his family from strange men entering. Very suspicious that bruise lasted 10 months! All for nothing too. People were doing no harm using CB. It was enforcement for enforcement sake.
Because previous generations were lazy and gave our rights away too easily, and because the state powers are like a ratchet noose that only gets tighter and tighter.
Those were the bad old days when those highly paid investigators got away with some very dubious methods, and were quite blatant about it as they had the full support of the legal system. It reached a peak just before UK CB was legalized in 1981, presumably their incomes dropped after that.... now people happily post videos of themselves freebanding using 100 or greater watts. How times change.
The UK government was, is and will (most likely) keep being authoritarian. They only change is that back then, they policed the CB band now they policing tweets
@@bobroberts2371 In the UK there was only a few model control channels, licensed of course, which could suffer when conditions allowed Italian, US and other countries to interfere. The conditions around 1980 were very favorable to long distance and were a factor in the sudden rise in popularity of CB; people acquired an American market radio, installed it and heard Americans and were hooked...
Iowa, USA A few years ago I dusted off my father's old Cobra CB car radio. This was years after the FCC literally killed off Analog signals and made everyone go digital. I couldn't pull in anything. I don't know if it actually IS illegal or not over here. I googled it, they are NOT illegal, just outdated. The FCC stopped issuing licenses, and as long as you don't use a signal booster you'll be fine. Provided you can raise someone. Side note: Our home base set up could reach into Canada, Puerto Rico and parts of South America with atmospheric skip. Not bad for a 50' whip.
@@oojimmyflip Keep it in storage... in case of war. Or an EMP. Yeah I thought 19 would have some traffic, even 9 the emergency channel was empty. Oh well, I'll be damned if I sell it to a hipster.
The Home Office people were idiots, and that's a technical term. At the time of the reported events, I was a senior officer in another government department. We had greater rights of entry than the Police had but would never go on a job like this without having the Police there BEFORE TRYING TO ENTER in case of a breach of the peace. For non-uniform people to just wander into a home is, and was then, ill advised and illegal in those circumstances. In a remote location, they were lucky they were not attacked very severely by the homeowner defending his house from unwanted and uninvited invaders.
It's a masterclass into how to get into a fight to the death with a knife, bat or gun armed home owner. They had every power except the power of common sense. Why such haste? Where's the radio going to go? 🤔
As a child my parents were very involved in the illegal cb radio usage of the late 70s/early 80s. However my uncle worked as a tracker for British Telecom (we called them busbys). The animosity meant we had no contact with him for years and in fact there was a lot of anger on norh sides. I found the whole secrecy and cloak&dagger approach rather intoxicating. The whole thing was ridiculous looking back on it all.
"Busby" was from that vile yellow bird Post Office Telecommunications/British Telecom used in their adverts. At the time British Telecom was still state owned, having only just been split off from the Post Office. Thatcher hadn't privatised them yet. And then later on the Department of Trade and Industry(DTI), took over the radio investigation work.
@@OAPHarmerHerrStarmler That could be due to the simple fact you cannot easily put a carving knife in your pocket! Now obviously they could be secreted about your person in many other ways but, despite what people believe, the law isn't based on common sense.
@@OAPHarmerHerrStarmler Yup. I've know a cook locked up even though his knives were in a case! Interesting the official hysteria regarding CB but no one worries about rogue switch mode or PLT noise.
It's weird. People don't seem to put together fact that the increase in knife crime coincides perfectly with the influx of migrants from the third world. Would pocket knives have been made illegal if London looked like it did in the 60s?
Around the same time in Australia everyone in the country areas and to some extent the city had a CB, where I lived on the York Peninsular the phone lines switched off at Corney Point at 9pm because the exchange closed for the night and the only contact was CB radio on a good night. I would talk to my girlfriend as she sat in a tractor on their farm from my car a fair distance away.
Anytime anyone in authority does anything ridiculously over the line you can expect them to double or triple down. To admit any wrongdoing is unthinkable. It becomes not the truthfulness of the charges, but the seriousness of the accusations.
I remember that case and several more like it. I was a very young electronics enthusiast back then, having lots of fun with imported CB's and some home brew kit too. I went on to have a long career, gaining a degree in electronic engineering, then at the BBC and spending 40 years in the entertainment industry repairing & designing electronic equipment. All thanks to those days back in the late 70's early 80's and CB. I’m now semi retired. and thinking about taking the exams to become a licensed operator. Thanks Lewis another fantastic video. I think Stakker Humanioid is just trying to be humorous! "maybe"
This is a video that's worth watching twice: once for the narrative, and the second time for the lists of call signs, newspaper reports, details of vintage equipment, &c.
I’m glad I’m in the US. A CB License cost me $4.oo , and anyone could get one by answering a simple questioner. Mostly about the rules and regulations. - The FCC, finally announced that no licensing was required for CB radio. 📻🙂
So very sad to hear. But it has happened in the US too. I once read about a boy who had a 2 meter HT which while near a Police Officer, who transmitted on his Police radio, which the boy received his signal due to overload being nearby the boy's HT, and the boy, a ham, was accused of listening to the Police transmission. I don't know what else happened, such as where and when, as it is a bit vague otherwise in my memory of this incident. Ray W2CH
Sadly, cops are not selected from the sharpest tools in the shed, and would have not understood about distortion and radio theory. They are just given the radios and given a rudimentary course on their use.
@Inthe Far-queue So true 👍, as an amateur radio operator for over 60 years, I have seen what you mean in many instances over the years, so be it I guess.
In U.S. It's legal to listen to Police Radio- You just cant transmit on police Frequency's - Thousands of Radio Scanners are sold Every year, Plus, I can listen to Police Radio on my Cell Phone, And Tablet -( Yes , There's Politicians, like People's Republik of Chicago Il., Komrad Mayor Lightfoot, Who would LIKE To ban listening to Police Calls, but She's Delusional )-
We have to remember that there are more liberties in the States(US) than in England, in England you need a license to operate a TV set (includes streaming, watch or record BBC I Player, Sky or Virgin) and it cost around 159 pounds per household for a color TV and 53.50 pounds for a BW TV, so lets enjoy the liberties that we have in the States but in the States we have MANY MANY TV commercials and in England 0 commercials on BBC
Because at the time, using a CB radio was illegal in the UK. CB wasn't legalised until December, 1981 in the UK, and only then with Home Office approved "CB 27/81" rigs
@@michaelturner4457 Quite correct also the illegal ones were using AM and the approved cb’s where using FM which if I remember correctly wasn’t as good
CB radio operators are very clever people we have to do swar reading and check the burners are ok, Also we have to check plugs and do electronics on cables and plugs.
Here in the US, NY State, Long Island area CB radios were used by Auxiliary Police ("AP") in the mid-late 1970's. AP's were funded by local townships and granted Peace Officer status but unarmed. In my area they were cop-wannabes and took it upon themself to police the CB Bands without any authorization by the FCC. My friends and I --CB operators all-- called them rent-a-cops and they were always using their squad cars to chase us down on our bikes which had radios mounted. We were kids. They ran me down one afternoon my father 'straightened them out' when he got home from work (those WW2 vets had a dark side that came out once & awhile LOL). Watching your video, I see that CB was bit more serious in your jurisdiction. Looking back, it seems silly. I realize it likely ruined some lives by giving people undeserved criminal records. Great channel, thanks for posting.
You do need a license and have to use the correct equipment. I had a family member when I was little who was on the CB always playing a cat and mouse game (partly due to a neighbour understandably annoyed with TV interference) with the what was then the DTI. I vividly remember this because of how extraordinary it was. One day in the early 90's he came to my school (I was 6) with a carrier bag full of his equipment, it was really heavy and I could barely lift it. I had to take it to my nan's house after school, presumably until the dust settled. I didn't understand what was happening back then but since then I have come to learn that he had a power amplifier that was rated for hundreds of watts, when the legal maximum at the time was 4.I understand why this was a big no-no, because if the neighbours were getting TV interference then the signal could be interfering with all manner of other signals, including emergency signals. He was a bit of a dick for getting me involved.
I mean, not really. It's not like he made you do something horrible. He did use you to hide his 👻radio amplifier 👻 but many adults use kids to take things back home to another family member
Absolutely.lawyers in the UK are useless. They just sit down with opposing counsel over a drink and decide between them. They decide not the defendant, judge or jury
@@spindriftbeach6082 I've seen that work 1st hand. I was in a lawyers office waiting to see my lawyer about some immigration consulting for my business. A lawyer from my chambers was talking to a lawyer from another chamber discussing a case . They were laughing, joking about the respective clients they were both representing, oblivious to my presence.
Reminds me of Australia in the 70's when we could not afford or obtain US CB radio's so we modified old AM VHF commercial two way radios, from around 72 mhz to 27, that is, we divided the frequency by 3 , got Xtals cut, rewound the coils and turned them up using the tool of the day, a "Grid Dip Oscillator". We had "R.I"s or "Radio Inspectors" "raid" our homes. One day, I lost a nice Lafatte HE-30T and a box of expensive membership certificates, beautiful artwork and printing. These were lost forever, and for reasons unknown, the matter never ever went to court. Many of my friends were raided. On one occasion around 20 Pye Mark 3A radios in the process of conversion were seized, never ever heard the outcome but we got only more determined. Within a few years, those radios were SSB with 150 watt to mobile 500 watt amplifiers that would take up an entire trunk of a car. More later
How can the home office monitor what you listen to? Didn't know such equipment existed. A bit heavy handed though, I would have given the home office bastards a few bruises if they had just walked into my house.
In early 81 there was no such CB licence to "not have" so was the charge of using a transceiver without a licence a generic offence that included transmitting on a non authorised frequency (pirate).
There was a kind of CB madness back in those days. I lived in a small Kent town, that had a CB club, with 3,000 members. Surrounding towns had similarly large clubs. There were so many people broadcasting in a small area, that some of them ran 100 watt or more transmitters, just to get over the noise and speak to someone in the next street. Some people had their aerials attacked in the small hours by upset rivals! At least 2 people were assaulted, one with an axe. All because people wanted to talk, mostly bollocks.
I have a few questions here? At this time these events occurred, was using CB radio illegal in the UK? Was it illegal to simply listen to CB radio transmissions? Did you need a license to use a CB radio? You describe the events when the authorities arrived at this person's home, but you didn't really discuss why they were there or what lead them there.
Yup, at the time in Jan. 1980, possessing and using a CB was an offence in the UK. I believe even just the possession of a rig was enough for prosecution, and confiscation of the equipment. CBs at that time were smuggled(illegally imported) in from the USA usually. Legal CB didn't come to the UK until Dec. 1981, with approved FM only rigs, which could easily be identified by a "CB 27/81" mark on the front. And there was a CB Radio Licence as well, which was obtained from the Post Office. Also the UK legal FM CB channels and band were unique to the UK, rather than using the FCC AM channels.
@@michaelturner4457 I see, thank you for explaining that. I suspect Ringway Manchester has done a video about this already, I don't think I've seen it though.
It is still illegal to this day to listen to “unauthorised” transmissions, i.e. anything not specifically approved by the UK government. So licensed commercial radio and BBC broadcasts are fine, everything else is technically illegal without a specific licence or authorisation. Monitoring air band transmissions at an air display or airport is illegal, but the law is rarely enforced.
@@michaelkaliski7651 It would be quite difficult to enforce such laws really. Does this law also cover pirate radio broadcasts? If so, that would be challenging for tourists who listen to the radio while visiting the UK, they're not going to know what's a licensed radio station and what's a pirate broadcast.
Great video.... I like to pause the video and read the newspaper articles and the 10 code and the club rules at the end were funny..... Lol.... The good old days....
@@RingwayManchester been a big fan of your channel for a long time, I mentioned you a while back in my one and only pirate radio video when I was over in Europe working. All the best!
There was a time when I wanted to visit the UK. Now I don't think so... seems like there's lots of stupid laws, stupid taxes and busy bodies causing problems for people. Almost impossible to legally own a gun and few places to hunt. If I brought my metal detector and found anything cool I would likely be forced to hand it over to the government.
Fascinating, how some people feel sooo superior. With their "we don't have home owners associations", well, neither do we, well, I suppose some do, very few. Not sure where they got that. "We don't like guns" of course you don't, the government will tell what you like, want and need. Reminds me of a young man who can't get girlfriend but "I don't like women anyway". Oh, okay. Morally superior because "people slaughtering wildlife " we pay people to kill for our meat, that makes us better than you Americans 😉. As far as mass shootings are concerned, my friends in the U.K. will agree, you have mentally ill people and terrorists committing crimes all the time. Methods may vary but dead is dead. Government can't stop that unless they have absolute power over everyone at all times, which is what government strives to do, constantly. No HOA, you live a national HOA and don't even know it. Enjoy your life, such as it is. I do enjoy mine.
In the video, you showed a "BTB" card we had for Reading as well but instead of "Bargain Town Breakers" we were "Biscuit Town Breakers" because of Huntley and Palmers.
Bloody madness all of it, the DTI are a law until themselves they got me in Luton when I had my pirate radio station pressure FM101.5, and they Took everything, but when we went to court I managed to get everyone’s records back except for my decks, and the transmitter, all good fun and if I had the chance to do it all over again I would, thanks for your work love it. Please keep up the great work it’s all so interesting Night owl from Luton .🍻🇬🇧👏💯👍👍👍
The story goes, that back in the 1800's, in certain jurisdictions , The High Kicking Dance "The Can-Can" was outlawed. The excuse given at the time is that the high kicking women and their raised skirts were exposing the knickers (or perhaps lack of...) and therefore it breached "indecency laws". However it's said that in many jurisdictions even just the music itself was banned. Stand in a park playing a piano accordian and some official would turn up to arrest you. ("Hang on, is that a B flat followed by an A and a C sharp ? Oh dear, we better get some cops and some highly paid civil servants out there to investigate !") Never trust the government when they say they haven't got enough money to spend on essential infrastructure, or healthcare and elderly care programmes.
Entry doors are designed to only open one way. Security. You would have to replace the whole door frams and door jamb to make it open the other way. The person who said it opens both ways is either untrained or an idiot.
Sounds like the US is sick of their whining and carry-on! You let them in so you can keep them!🤣Seriously, you could ask them to go home, or deport them.
You seem to have a warped view about what it's like in the UK., especially if you're basing it on these videos about illegal CB use 40-odd years ago! Contrary to what some Americans think, you don't have a monopoly on freedom, we do have it here as well.
@@caulkins69 I won't defend that, I agree it's disgraceful. However, I could probably come up with plenty of examples of overreaching and faulty legislation in the US as well. Let's face it, neither of our countries have true freedom. The UK is a decent place to live, but it's not perfect. Political correctness is off the scale, especially in Scotland at the moment.
Wow, you mean you had to have license to run a cb radio in the UK. I had a CB in my car and home here in the US when I was growing up in the 80's and never needed a license. I had some friends who also had some ham radios which did require a license and they had them for the ham but it wasn't needed for the CB. I miss those days sometimes. I enjoyed the cb radio.
I remember in the seventeens, I got a control on my cb radio from the gais! In that time you was not allowed to use a GP antanna as a transmitter antenna on the roof. But I had 2 antenna outlets on my radio, and when they entered in my house for control me, of course I had my vipantenna on, and my GP antenna disconected. After they leave, I of course put on my GP antenna.and continued transmittng on my CB-radio.( a Tokay PW404 with 4 channals and only 4 w. am.The good old days Lewis! Thank's for the video! The best to you from LB1NH 🙂
need a ham radio license for sure but NOT for cb every trucker should be arrested they needed police with a warrant of entry home office warrant is to SEE and EXAMINE gear NOT entry
The UK is a very free country. This was 43 years ago when we hadn't yet legalised CB radio. There was previously no demand for it, and when illegal US AM CB radios started flooding the country, we very quickly legalised our own system (FM). We now have AM, FM and SSB.
@@1966gtoguy We’re not allowed to carry firearms on the street here, but apart from that, what can’t we do here that you can in the US? I’m genuinely curious.
@@ProdigalPorcupine You have little to no actual free speech, when people post things on twitter and the police can show up at your door that should worry you so no 1st amendment, as you stated you have no 2nd amendment you can't even carry a knife, and no 4th amendment. You were more forcibly locked down during covid also.Don't get me wrong we all are losing our rights some more quickly than others.
When illegal CB landed in the UK, one of the gripes from the authorities was that CB would be used by the criminal fraternity to communicate with each other. With mobile phones and burner phones used by our not-so-friendly drug and gang members, I think that view was somewhat short-sighted.
When Radio Caroline and other offshore radiostations appeared, a law saw daylight to prohibit listening to these stations. Not only hilarious but quite a violation of the basic human right to receive information indeed.
It's called CITIZEN'S band for a reason, wtf! I don't understand why they're so weird about it over there, here in the U.S. everyone who wanted to had one in their car or home, nobody cared. They made the road safer. My mom had one too. We also had a police scanner when she was a cop, now it's all public and online, thank goodness.
We're not 'weird' about it. We have AM, FM and SSB modes with (I think) 120 channels. All licence free. There's nothing 'weird' about a country pursuing people using transmitting equipment built for a frequency allocation from another country, the US would have done exactly the same if for example Australian UHF CBs had flooded their market.
@@ProdigalPorcupine Oh, I see, thank you for the explanation, much appreciated. I see in other comments now that emergency services relied on it and illegal operators and people in other countries were interfering, I don't think there's anything weird about doing something about that. We used shortwave for emergency services instead and left the CB for amateurs.
@@0therun1t21 back in the 60s and 70s no one cared in the UK until the goverment interfeared selling AM to the emergency services. Thats why it became an offense to use an AM rig in the UK. before that no one really cared.
This is wild. Here in the USA,to use a cb,all you had to do was fill a post card to get license. But this was the 70's. I don't believe you even need a license for a CB these days.
Okay they were arrested for operating on Citizens Band in the states that doesn't require a license is Britain different if that's how you treat people for operating on CB I am glad I live in America
I'm Glad that I live in the US where We can Listen to All Radio Communication Systems! Also here in the US We are Allow to beat the Live 💩💩💩💩 out All intruders that Come in Our Homes in the US, even Deadly Force is Allowed!
Hi Lewis. Another great video. I realise you use a lot of stock footage but the two Post Office officers in this video are Brian Williams and Jim (William) Crow. Brian is the one on the left. It is not Peter Gooding. Sorry if you already know this. All the best. Keep 'em coming!
Holy Hell…I dont know the legalities in the UK about Law Enforcement and entering a persons home with or without a warrant, so I will not say what Mr Fox should or should not have done. As for me and my American ass, the INSTANT the first man stepped across my threshold WITHOUT presenting said warrant and handing it off into my hand, I probably would have seen my last sunrise because I am stepping into cover, drawing my sidearm and let my training and experience take over my body as my little world goes kinetic. As soon as they try to force their way into my home, are clearly armed, and try to impress the threat of violence upon the people I love and are under my protection if I don’t comply with their demands. The threat they pose to my family and anyone inside my home at the time is what will ultimately culminate in two or three of the trespassers or tyrannical assholes never again to see their friends and family! Without that warrant under most circumstances, they become criminals with the training and abilities to inflict grievous bodily harm on their victims. I will not allow anyone under my protection to become more of their victims. As long as I still hold oxygen in my lungs and my can get a steady and smooth squeeze on the trigger.
The same sort of behavior by the UK authorities during the "pandemic". The UK is way different than the US in this respect. There's no way they'd get away with it here in the US.
Ah those heady days of youth with your AM CB radio up on the Pennines talking to all sorts of people. Got boring once it was legal (Did AM ever get legal?) . I had to start work so dropped doing it.
I'd have been damned. If it's in the air, you have nothing to say about what I do with it. You don't want me "listening" to a given band, figure out how to protect it so I can't get at it. If it's open, I'm gonna tell you to piss off and do what the hell I want.
5:00 Not the subject of the video, but I think it's hilarious that a baby saying "shit" as her first word was worth a call to the police and a story in the local paper. The reporter also decided it was worth noting that she was a "TEENAGE mum" for some reason. Ah, the 80s.
I got a visit for using Am in 1983 all they did was tell me to take my Ariel down , and get rid of the rig , a superstar 360 it was never saw them again
"Aunty Mary" rigs in 1980 were illegal, so that's that. Naughty people. Oohhh... I had a Blue Laser (basically an blue anodised Silver Rod) aerial many years back :)
i had a GP 14 aerial on the roof and before that I had a 9 up 9 down diapole . but a dv 27 was all that was needed in the car, no firestick necessary.😂 good times.
I was charged with operating a CB without a license, by lying police, despite my rig being completely disconnected from power and antenna. My solicitor advised to plead guilty due to the police report, which was pure fiction and said that the rig was on and on channel 19. In court the sheriff was unhappy that my case was put in front of him as he felt it was trivial (and let the police know it) but that he would have to fine me. I was fined £20, so I asked to pay in installments, which was granted😁
So he wasn't arrested and charged for just listening to a CB radio, he was arrested and charged for using an unlicensed receiver and for assault. Quite different from the way you've titled it.
Great Story, This "Peter Gooding" sounds like a really nasty piece of works. Since this case, the same officials continued to fail to ID themselves and engage in similar acts. I've missed the video's of more to the story of Peter Gooding.
