I think that rotten cotton 92 is correct. And I think you need to return it to where you found it you really should not take artifacts they belong to the tribe of origin not you.
@@tracyroake2815 this comes from a time period before the tribes that you're referring to. These were clans of 20-25 people. So who exactly do I give it to? Are you familiar with the Archaic time period?
Whatever happened to, losers weepers, finders keepers. We should all be able to see and admire our ancestral artifacts not bury them for Mother Nature to eventually turn them into dust.
Its a bowstring shaper..deer sinew needed to be shaved and worked a bit to make it uniform . The end holes are to strip the sinew ..the bowl held the strippings the top hole was for a leather loop for holding it tightly and to keep it handy..
@@jasonx-ray3921: it's hard to have 2 holes in nothing..the only way to get 2 holes lined up w each other is if that something is shaped like bowl ..the round of it fits in the palm..the bowl shape keeps the strippings away from the work..so your hand is not coated in slippery oils while stripping it down..as to your question the strippings were used for every day needs , lashing for fish spears, arrow fletchings, primitive zip ties..the reason they wouldn't fight at night is the sinew bow strings would swell and get soft at night from humidity..
That's not an atlatl stone. The groove & top end holes were for cordage of plant fiber or animal cordage for a loop around the neck hanging at the chest. In a pouch was carried a small stone for grinding tobacco leaf into snuff snorted with a "Y" shaped drilled stone or ceramic. I've seen the whole kits before. The person, usually men, would grind the tobacco leaf with the mortar & pestle hanging around the neck & snort it out of the stone that you have.
I'm gonna lean in w/you on your opinion! Most of my family were tobacco users/workers when I was youngun. I remember me & my sister being amazed @ one"old man( older than my grandparents) that used similar device to scrub into "snuff". "Snuff" was used many different ways/for different reasons. "Snuff" was "polite" when you was in house,(as opposed to "out-side" where you could "spit" anywhere) so, a person would "take a pinch" or snort a pinch to quell a hankering for tobacco. Outside, a person would "cut, bite, pull, pack a chaw" of leaf tobacco. I have "chawed" for 67 years. It is addictive, but will continue past the "WOKE Pandemic".
It has been several years ago that they decided to build for a Walmart in our town. When they started they found that there had been a Cherokee Indian village there. Of course they had some protests about being able to continue but it did no good. They were able to continue their build and put in our local Walmart. It bothered us because my wife is part Cherokee.
its a bow string tool. To tighten the string on bows . the type hair they braided together was course and could cut the fingers so to avoid cuts they used a stone .and it takes quite some time ware the rock down like that .
LOL Ancient bowstrings were NOT made from hair, they were made from laminate sinew. GOD the ignorance. Yucca was also used, at no period in time did American Indians use HAIR to make bowstring. Also, you can't spell properly, try fixing that before you try thinking.
Thank you. It is a very special piece. I see that they are even more rare in Georgia, where I found this. It took me two days for the shock to wear off and finally realize how special this is.
@@bottling.hobo. Stellar find brother !! Been doing this since 1969 and recently found my first full, "intact clovis spear point". Found many over the decades but not in perfect condition. Best wishes and stay safe out there.
@@deandeann1541 Yes indeed it is, i was so shocked !! Found many broken ones over the yrs both fluted bottom pieces and mid to top breaks but never a full piece. 4 1/2 inches long of Onondaga chert (lower "Niagara Falls"gorge). Love to post some pix for you but i wouldn't know how to do that on youtube. This is the ONLY social media i use. Very best wishes to you and yours and stay safe out there. Have a MASSIVE collection starting in 1969 (ALL legal finds of course and HAVE returned MANY to the local indigenous people iv'e met over the yrs. Makes me feel great, watching their faces when i mention these "most likely" made by their ancestors.
@@shanghunter7697 I found an unbroken bone basket weaving tool made by the Red Paint People here in Maine - verified by a state archaeologist - he said he'd seen many but always broken, he also said that there must have been a midden it had washed out of near where I found it. The tool was a flat bone needle, pointed on one end with a hole drilled in the other end, flat but as long and as wide as a middle finger. The cross section was convex, it was very symmetrical and very carefully made. The tool was very specific to that culture, it was about 4,000 years old.
With all those holes and grooves, I would think whoever made it didn't want it to get away from them. I would guess it was tied very securely to bone or wood atlatle. Being in the creek wall like that it was destined to be a heartbreaker someday; glad you rescued it. What an astounding find!
Wow definitely find of a lifetime, excellent condition boat stone for sure, there is plenty more stuff around where you found it and where you described where it was found the stuff should be in good shape
You look at that in todays term oh someone drilled some holes and ground groves in a stone, Take your head back a few thousand years did it how, with what, Amazing amount of time patience and craftsmanship// awesome find!
Their lives were full of things to do, NONE of which were nonsense, unlike ours. They were masters of survival, so WE could BE, and look how we squandered that gift.
Definitely a boat stone and used on a atlatl for a counter weight for thrusting spears! By the way, most arrowheads that you’re finding are actually spear points! Arrowheads are very small and are way more modern than spear points! Be careful where you hunt and where you find them and be aware that just picking them up is a Felony in most states. If you claim to have found them on your private property you could even have the government declare your property as an archaeological landmark and confiscate it from you! 🤫
@@randolphmann3322 To be honest, what most of us find are exhausted knives, that were never used as spears. When you do find a point, it's very rare to find an arrowhead compared to the lengthy Archaic time period. I have permission to be at this site. I just bring the home owner a bottle of Tequila each visit. That's what he requested and that's what I do to gain access.
@@bottling.hobo. very aware, and my belief is there’s nothing wrong with hunting artifacts, especially surface finds and on private property. But the government and certain tribes do not see it that way and there is certain laws that give them the ability to really screw you over in various ways. My best friend and deceased now, was surface hunting on a shoreline of a local lake, and was arrested, his property confiscated and never returned. His boat, his truck and all his possessions, was fined $20,000, convicted of a felony and lost his right to own a firearm, to vote, to hunt and just for picking up arrowheads that was just laying there. Happy hunting, be careful out there!
Whenever I see holes, I start thinking adornment of some kind. Maybe some kind cap to a breast plate or other object. Looking at the bowl side, you can see a single grove at each hole to the rim. Maybe caused by sinew banding holding the breastplate/object in place and tied off at the top of the stone with the top hole used to attach to another object. i find the top hole and stone work above it very interesting.
Were I to speculate, perhaps what you have is some sort of awl for cordage, sinew, hide, or reed grass. The holes and palm cup,thus suggests. also an addlelat (sp?) for casting spears or stones, may also be a possibility. Archeology on U Tube. What fun!
It’s a corner support for holding something at a specific angle. The grove is for rope that run through the holes. I’ve seen these in Home Depot! Or a boat stone sounds good too.
It’s definitely an adult weight sometimes they hollow them out and people think they’re both stones, but they hollow them out to fit where a branch was on the handle of the ad which keeps the weight from moving back-and-forth and it was tied in three holes and then one line went up over the top and tied back to the ad itself Awesome awesome job well done. Good luck in the future.!!!
You can not grind tobbaco in clay. They just stuffed their pipes and smoked. They had leather pouches. My great grandmother was pre cherokee. I learned alot from her.
It would help to know the area it was found. I know you won’t share this but it would help complete a story. If you have a university nearby with an archaeology department, go talk to someone. Many of the answers on here sound okay but…. They also sound uncertain.
Great find! Boat stone for sure. Could this material be baked clay? Looking at the color and the striation's on the inside it sure seems like it could be.
@@glenstribling6123 this is a link to Peach State Archeology. Its local to Georgia where I found this at. www.peachstatearchaeologicalsociety.org/index.php/9-hardstone/128-boat-stones
Looks like it may be an arrow shaft staightening hand lathe tool to shave down any slight curves in a arrow shaft to attain as staight a shaft as possible.
If the arrow shaft was meant to be That small... I'd believe the snuff bowl hypothesis over anything to do with weaponry only because of the small size.
Ludicrous, ancient people DID use hand tools to true arrow shafts, but nothing like this. They typically used ASH limbs for arrow shafts, as Ash grows very, and I mean very straight, very little truing was needed, and this was surely done with a fine hand knife. FYI - To be taken seriously one must write, and SPELL correctly.
@@BobDeGuerre It's too complicated an idea. First people were nothing if not masters of finding the easy way to do a thing. And using a tool such as this, in such a stupid, time and labor intensive way? No, I refuse to believe that.
No kidding. This was not an instant result. I imagine they had to keep resharpening the tool. The amount of pecking and polishing had to be labouring. I want to try and recreate one!
Maybe the artifacts you find have sufficient importance that they should be in a Museum or a University ? This type of hobby and collection will get you in a ton of trouble in most places.
That's a better statement than what fools will tell you in "f.b. arrowhead land" They'd tell the guy it's concretion and offer him 75$ for it. A wonderful bunch of people.
The truth is we have no idea about MOST things, you're at least able to admit you don't know. The TRUTH is, we don't have a clue what those people used ANYTHING for beyond the obvious. And there is a chance that is incorrect as well. Well done!
Several people use the word(s) boatstone or boat stone. Nobody defines it. I'm guessing it has something to do with a boat. Or maybe a stone. Shhheeesh!!!
The name is just a description of a stone with a vague boat shape to it, it has nothing to do with the use of the object - in fact stone objects intended for completely different uses can be called boat stones. So the name is not very helpful at all.
