Arsenal Fan Says Smith Rowe Is Better Than Grealish | Agree To Disagree | @LADbible 

“If Manchester City Draw 38 games we are invincible and Relegated” had me DEAD

Says “Arsenal fan” as if we don’t know who this guy is.

Steve is proply the most awesome footballfan in the world. Seriously.. How easy would it be to be a United fan in the 90s? But stand behind his small team City and now gets the all the benefits of staying true and loyal.

That Grealish debate aged well

Everyone hating on grealish but forgetting rodri and cancelo took time to get use to the system…now they both are beast

Strange how club fans who are not winning cling to the "history" while the teams that are winning are creating it

When big Steve mentioned his journey as a city fan 😭💙 that was it for me. Man won the entire debate with that part. It was emotional and shows exactly what it takes for fans to do absolutely everything to follow their club Respect To the Legend Big Steve

"Hey steve champions again, thanks man, Robbie big club again man thanks man" That had me dead

I agree with the fact that Arsenal is currently a bigger club in comparison to city. But its ignorant to say that City will NEVER be bigger or as big as arsenal. The history argument is true, but if city consistently win trophies or more trophies than arsenal for years to come, the stature of the club will be similar to Arsenal. History has to start somewhere. Ask this question in 10-20 years from now.

*This season? Yes Smith-Rowe has been better than Grealish. That’s a fact.*

To all the Man City haters - ‘The past was yours but the future’s ours’.

Steve explaining his fan journey was honestly incredible 🫡

one thing pep should learn is that the longer he stays at city the harder it will be to find a suitable replacement

when the city fan talked about his journey i had some type of feeling, made me have tremendous respect for city fans and i continue to wish on y’all’s success 🙏🏽

The Arsenal Invincibles was a great team but the Centurions had the most points ever, the most wins ever, and the most goals ever and then went on the next season to get 98 points. I will take the Centurions for those reasons.

People don’t realise Aston Villa built their team around Grealish and was their focal point in attack. Now at city he’s just another player in a different system. He needs time to get used to this.

My man asked why smith Rowe didn’t turn up against city when we played 5 back with 10 men and had an atrocious defense with kolasinac at Center back 😂😂

As a gooner, with the first question, the history argument doesn’t really make sense because if city keep winning things like they are now, in 25 years, their “history” would be now

Robbie didn’t want to answer the Wenger question the way he truly wanted to. He was one of the main one’s who drove him out of the club

Big Steve is a genius. Talking nothing but facts and being hilarious wit it 😂

As a Liverpool fan, I’ve nothing but respect for this City fan

This 'if you draw 38 games you get relegated' argument is so stupid. People make out as if the Invinvibles drew all their games and got an award for it. No. They *won the league* and went unbeaten

Seeing Robbie compare jack to ems after the treble is so funny 😂

"Manchester City will never be as big a club as Arsenal" - Accomplished in 10/06/2023.

The invincible trophy wasnt tiny that was just Arsene Wengers leaving present

I remember when Arsenal being 4th was a meme and now it's a dream.

This was so good. Love the passion of both of you in the last two questions. That made this video. Thank you both

Treble life a year later I want this debate agian😂

I’d actually say Smith Rowe over Grealish based on current form this year. Think we all need to chill out about Grealish at the min.

1. Arsenal are bigger now but city fan base is growing everyday so “will never be bigger” is false imo 2. Considering how much pep rotates the squad I agree with Robbie saka, smith Rowe and even tomyasu could be in the mix. Zinchenko gets games for city so could tomyasu. 3. Invincibles is very impressive it’s actually very disappointing that so many people try to pretend that it isn’t just because arsenal fans harp on about it. Wenger still had 90 points that season so the whole “38 draws and relegated” point is redundant and silly tbh

I’m not a city fan but I can understand city fans not giving a balls about people calling them an oil club, especially by fans who don’t actually attend games and are watching from Ireland or Malaysia. They don’t understand the highs and lows of actually following a team. You can turn off the tv and forget about it, it’s not the same as lads traveling across the country and getting battered 4-0 who then have to travel all the way back with that in their head. Football isn’t a tv show, but they don’t understand that sitting in their couch commenting “No fans” over and over on city posts

i hate the fact that any time someone starts talking about man city it’s about the fact that they’re not a bigger club. that means nothing. it’s not a museum. it’s sport. your either winning and making history or you’re losing and becoming history. not the same thing

Don't you ever refer to Don Robbie as "ARSENAL FAN." He eclipses your entire channel. Put some respect on that name.

Steve hit the nail on the head with one comment “I wouldn’t swap any other football journey for the one we’ve been on” Spot on! It’s been incredible.From York City to Real Madrid,it’s been a hell of a ride

To do what City did and get 100 points is far more impressive, especially with the likes of Liverpool getting 90+ points in the season as well. When you're going out to win every game, you will inevitably lose one or two in the process. Arsenal setting up to not get beat used to work in the prem but fact of the matter is, they wouldn't have even won the league in the modern era due to not getting enough points.

Man City fan spitting facts about almost everything

Do people forget that it wasn’t just 38 games unbeaten? it was 49… literally went almost half way into the next season. The disrespect is insane.

Emile Smith-Rowe doesn’t even start for Arsenal how does this man have the audacity to say he’d start for Man City 😭

“We’ve been in the mud”… facts. I love city dude

ive been a city fan my whole life and i consider myself passionate but compitant, grealish has lacked skill but he hasnt played much and like robbie said, emille has been better this season which is just factual, same with saka they both have perfomed well.

From an Arsenal fan we both can agree that the only thing mising for both clubs is the champions league trophy. We just cant digest why both clubs in their prime just didnt & dont have the ability to win it. Mind blowing 🔴⚪️

The grealish obsession from opposition fans is hilarious 😂 Jack's doing just fine, he's finding his place in a new system, I think you're going to see a mahrez like progression with him

city did have a history before they were taken over they had league title a european cup winners cup ect so to say they have no history is incorrect. yes they arent successful as arsenal are in history but citys dominant history is being made now. city are 6 league titles behind arsenal and how long will that be till they catch that one up. in terms of citys spending arsenal have spent money over the years even when they were successful they were paying the biggest wages in the early 2000s so no successfull football club win trophies consistently without investment. plus arsenal have spent money in recent years theyve just spent it badly look at the 72 million on pepe. in terms of arsenals invincibles thats all they seem to cling on to because they havent won a league since and seem to only have that arguement in recent years. i been a season ticket since 93 and tbh i agree with steve here i wouldnt change my journey for anyone because it makes me appreciate the current success the club are having right now beause when you have really been down in the mud you appreciate the things more..... arsenal are currently holding onto there previous successes and can sometimes be blinded by that which means they cant then see that there current team arent there anymore and are lets be honest a bit behind city in the current climate.

Good video, differing points of view which was always gonna be the case but interesting to hear from both sides

Smith Rowe has been far better than Grealish this season

i'm an arsenal fan but i think as football fans we have to stop with the "city bought trophies thing" because if the president id willing to spend that's good. if we continue in that logic so real madrid bought their trophies also... so yeah that's my point of view

This aged well 🤣🤣🤣

If it wasn't for City, Chelsea would've had an invincible season as well, Chelsea only lost 1 game in 2004/05 season, it was a 1-0 defeat to...... Manchester City at The City of Manchester stadium.

Rodri, Cancelo, Sane… are just a few players who struggled in their first season give Grealish time

Just seen the Wenger documentary and Ferguson said the invincibles stands above all else including his 13 titles

the final speech WOW . nearly moved me to tears! amazing! there was so much passion that he was uninterrupted, looked at with admiration and was in total agreement in silence !

You can go invincible and get relegated, but you can't have 100 points and not win the league

Absolute love that passionate speech from Big Steve 💙

Man City bigger than Arsenal? 🤣🤣. Good joke!

The Invincibles were great, but there are definitely several holes you can punch in their accomplishments. For one, look at the quality of the top 10 in 2003/2004 compared to the last 5 or 6 years. Chelsea and United finished 2nd and 3rd that season and neither cracked 80 points. Charlton, Bolton and Fulham all finished top 10, whereas in the previous season they finished 12th-18th. Another argument is that Arsenal dropped points in 12 games, that's basically a third of the gameweeks in which they failed to win. The Invincibles had a 68% win percentage. The Centurions and the 98 point title defending side meanwhile not only won 84% of their games, but broke nearly all the attacking records playing at a time when the top 10 is better quality than it was in the early 2000s. And yes, money is a big reason why their are more heavy hitters in the last 6 to 7 years than before.

city CAN be a bigger club, and i enphasise can because history is made in the present and if city keep doing them for the next however long that eventually go from recent history to former glory, this team is quite new and as long as it keeps growing it can eventually surpase these big teams.

This is whats needed man, i dont even care about football like that but its nice seeing fans from different clubs having genuine discussions about thieir teams and stuff

I'm a United fan and I actually disagree with the idea that City bought their trophies. They won the financial lottery yes but there was still never any guarantees. Their transfers up until Grealish had not been marquee in the truest sense of the word. They were mostly required and well suited. They've also built the foundation and academy and instilled the idea of success into the club for generations potentially. None of these things were guaranteed initially by having a rich owner. Edit: People win the lottery every week and we know from history how that tends to go.

@17:44 He put his heart and soul into that argument. That was solid.

Centurions is more impressive than Invincible’s. Both achievements are incredible don’t get me wrong, but 100 points is next level

“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” That’s a what happened to Arsène Wenger. He was a great manager but he should have know when to get out of the game at least move on before it caught up to him.

17:48-19:40. Made me emotional there, great speech.

People who say Grealish haven’t been good this season literally don’t watch the games, see the stats, and want to make an opinion lol he’s been playing really well just in a different side and pep is asking him to play in a different manner

I am in love with this series! Keep them coming!

This season... ESR is better than Grealish. Overall? Grealish is next level. However one of thems 21 and the other is 26, so take that into account please

Should've been worded Smith-Rowe is currently "in better form" than Grealish. A lot of LW/AMs who aren't as talented as Jack are in better form currently.

This is awesome please more of these types of videos.

Love it 😊 Proper big banter boys It’s all a bit of fun

I hate city but the city fan was the only one speaking with facts and not being to biased towards his side.

City have spent an incredible amount of money and wouldn't be anywhere near where they are now without it. But i refuse to believe that if every club in the premiership was given that amount of money to spend over the period city have spent it for example, not many would reach the heights they have. Everton are a good example of why spending loads of money means does nothing if its not done correctly. United have spent plenty as well, and whilst they've still competed and europe and won a couple of trophies under mourinho, they are no where near to city. City have an incredible sructure to their club, great youth system with proven gems like foden, and have built legends in toure, silva, aguero and kompany. People can say "you bought it all" and yeh, too right they did. they've invested the money brilliantly, play the best football and win the biggest trophies. Had guardiola not bottled it in european games they would've won the UCL by now, which would've left no one to question his legacy, no that it should be considering how good they are. they were always going to have to spend money to lift them out of mid table, let alone even more to get them to the top of it. One other thing is that they've never fallen away from competing at the top. Its happened to united since sir alex, to chelsea when they've sacked countless managers and liverpool for a long period of mediocrity. Arsenal are the best example though, poorly run ever since they moved to the emirates, money may not have been in their control at all times, especially under wenger, but city really could be their template. A powerhouse in english football that wants to play possesion and show why its called the beautiful game. theyve done well this season and its great to see young players lke saka and smith rowe performing so well, thats what arsenal should be.

The hate for City’s success and greatness and how they have changed the style and play of English football is becoming quite clear and evident lol

"Not enough to put Ramsdale in net" I'm crying😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

City are going to be at the top for the next 30+ years, after that they WILL be a bigger club then Arsenal, Robbie doesn't seem to understand that history can be made.

“City have no history” we won the FA cup before Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool + United and won a european trophy before Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal. We obviously dont have a history as big as United/Liverpool etc but to say we have NO history is just a blatant lie.

Every time I think about the end of Wenger’s tenure at Arsenal I always think about the Quote from the Dark Knight, “you either die the hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain”.

There's a lot of similarities with these 2 teams. Not just the players like he mentioned buying many Arsenal players Anelka, Seaman, KoloToure, Adebayor, StuartTaylor, Vieira, Nasri, Clichy, Sagna etc... and also Lee Dixon who supported ManCity growing up but played many years at Arsenal etc... But both have not won the champions league and have a really bad CL record with few semi-final appearances and only 1 final each. Also look at Arsenal's 5 PL seasons 1994/95 to 1998/99 (1) 94/95: 12th (out of 22, so finished above 10 teams). (2) 95/96: 5th (3) 96/97: 3rd (ManUtd won) (4) 97/98: 1st (Won their first PL title by half a point, doing the double over ManUtd was imperative). (5) 98/99: 2nd with 78pts (ManUtd got their trophy back). Arsenal also won 1 FAcup in this 5 year period, ManUtd won 3 out of 5 PL titles. ManCity 5 PL seasons from 2008/09 to 2012/13 (1) 2008/09: 10th (Out of 20, so finished above 10 teams). (2) 2009/10: 5th (3) 2010/11: 3rd (ManUtd won) (4) 2011/12: 1st (Won their first PL title by half a point, doing the double over ManUtd was imperative). (5) 2012/13: 2nd with 78pts (ManUtd got their trophy back). ManCity also won 1 FAcup in this 5 year period, ManUtd won 3 out of 5 PL titles. In the next 7 seasons for Arsenal (1) 99/00 2nd (In CL lost to Barca) (2) 00/01 2nd (In CL lost 1-0 in Munich to Bayern in group stage but didn't lose at home to them, played at the StadioOlympico and also got knocked out by Spanish team who played in the final that year). (3) 01/02 1st (4) 02/03 2nd (78 pts) (5) 03/04 1st (unprecedented PL season with no losses, Champions league quarter finalists) (6) 04/05 2nd (won FAcup) (7) 05/06 4th In the next 7 seasons for ManCity (1) 13/14 1st (In CL lost to Barca) (2) 14/15 2nd (In CL lost 1-0 in Munich to Bayern in group stage but didn't lose at home to them, played at the Stadio Olympico and also got knocked out by Spanish team who played in the final that year). (3) 15/16 4th (4) 16/17 3rd (78pts) (5) 17/18 1st (unprecedented PL season with 100points, Champions league quarter finalists) (6) 18/19 1st (Won FAcup) (7) 19/20 2nd Overall PL positions equal to exact same average. By the way incase any of you are confused as to why I say won by 'half a point'. It means you either won on GD or you won by 1 point but with worse GD than eventual 2nd, so in both cases the team finishing 2nd would've finished 1st if they scored just 1 more point than they did, wouldn't have been level they would've been above, so you only really won by half a point. Like in away goal rule 2 leg ties if you draw 0-0 away 1st leg and you're in the middle of the 2nd leg winning 1-0 you only have half a goal lead really as you'll be eliminated if it finishes 1-1 it won't be a tie.

Jack grealish is a flop. Smith rowe has been better. Coming from a spurs fan Jack grealish

I find big club talk to be so irrelevant. I am an Arsenal fan and agree with Steve on this issue. I would rather win trophies.

Two gud passionate lads about there teams great vid

My younger brother came up to me saw Robbie and was like “is that Lacazette” 🤣💀

Steve's banter is TOP!! No one can forget Sweeeeing in the Car Park 😂😂

Nice to see 2 fans that are honest & aren't fully deluded to just make an argument

literally just saw this guy on live tv in saudi arabia watching manchester city play the club world cup dedicated fan.

Can we run this video again after our treble win💪🏼

as a mancity fan i totally agree with rob, smith rowe has been a better player than grealish this season

Everyone in the comments arguing over ESR & Grealish when the question was about if anyone gets in Citys starting XI. I think its fair to say Grealish isnt in the Starting XI if Pep plays his first team. Basically arguing if ESR gets on Citys bench :D

There’s a reason why they went invincible and no one else has it’s the same reason they DONT have a ucl and the other top clubs do except city. When you get to March/April if your winning the league you prioritise the champions league and other comps and the ucl knockouts and rest players. Which allows for slip ups. Arsenal didn’t and it’s the same reason they won nothing else that season. That simple really.

I'm an Arsenal fan but I think the centurions had better team in terms of squad but I think the first 11 for the invinsibles was the best and most balanced first 11 in the Prem's history (1992 onwards)

Centurions 100 point is run of the mill according to Robbie..a record never achieved before in history. These teams have two amazing records to celebrate... invincibles and centurions.

As an arsenal fan it's beautiful to watch this city fan speak about his journey as a city fan. From division two to Bernabeu. What a story. We all wish we had oil money.

Robbie is chatting out of his arse most of the times. Love you big Steve you absolute legend. Representing all the proper City fans around the globe💙💙🥺

We need more of these type of football related videos.

After the first Statement already you can't take the city fan serious 💀

Manchester City being a bigger club than Arsenal? LMAO! They're not even a big club in their OWN city! LMFAO!!!

Very moving speech that in the end!

Beautiful sentiment regarding life as a city fan from Big Steve…and I’m a United fan. Reminds you of the essence of football fan hood

I'm neither an arsenal fan nor a city fan but I think Smith Rowe has really proved that he has it to become a great footballer, when it comes to dribbling along with running no one comes close to Smith Rowe. Atm Grealish has been used extremely wide by Pep and hence he can't cut in and contribute much but their comparison is wrong as Grealish should start to be in his prime and Rowe has been the senior league for a couple of years

Ramsdale OVER Ederson .. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Well said mate. Cheers from Man City fans in Indonesia!

Love these debates even if they aren’t my team Good job lad bible Would love derby vs forest 😂