I don't know. Most of my dreams often take place in a dreamland version of the real world, oftentimes my hometown. I get scenes where my house is bigger than I remember them or how fancier the mall is. Sometimes, I get a great turquoise sea beside it or the skies look like straight up from the Flammarion Engraving and Zodiac charts...
I have dreams of going to a really old big house way out in the countryside. I also have dreams of really big waves in the ocean and they make me excited and happy. Those are the most common 😅
@@Rotisiv Wow... Did you know that many theologians are atheists without being overly critical of religion? That there is a criticism to be made of a theist or deist theologean? Or do you truly believe that study a chimpanzee one must first be a chimpanzee themselves? To study music, one must play an instrument and to study film, one must be a filmmaker? And don't get me started on geology experts. They have these warm hearts. Completely unlike the rock and stone they study.
I always assumed the 'mare' in the word nightmare had something to do with a horse. I had never heard of the mara creature until watching your video. Very cool stuff.
In Serbian it is Noćna Mora, and there was among pagan Slavs a goddess Morana that was considered evil. Even today the rivers with the name of Morava bare her name. Both words Noć and Mora have a common Indo-European origin, in Latin night is Nox, Spanish Noche, Lithuanian naktis etc.
i know i sound old and crusty for saying this, but i have a burning hatered for ai art. like, imagine growing up your entire life with the dream of becoming an artist. art isn't just a passion, it is the air you breathe and the blood in your veins. it is what gives your life meaning, the reason you're still alive, what pushes you onward into the future. And then some computer people just decided "hey let's program ai to do what artists do, but faster and cheaper." at that point, why pay an actual human artist for a comission when you could just type a prompt into an algorithm for it to spit an image resembling art almost instantly. with the way tjhings are going, in a few years i wont have even a hope of getting a job, much less being able to make a living on this skill that i've been tirelessly building FOR MY ENTIRE LIFE. i live to create art, and if that's taken away from my by some lifeless, souless lines of code (which realitsically is what's going to happen), then i don't know what i'm going to do.
You're conflating digital images to physical works of art. My linocuts, or digitally rendered Artistamps printed then oerforated on a 19th Century Rosback perforator can be shared by mail throughout the world. Likewise, a watercolor or oil painting or pen & ink drawing are physical works of art and; therefore, different from something that appears on a computer monitor. EDIT: I should add that I'm old if not crusty.
Great video and I want to add that the Japanese has a monster of dream too - Baku - and its a good kind of monster thankfully. I wish you known and added it in this video.
I had to look that up: from wkipedia _"Baku (獏 or 貘) are Japanese supernatural beings that are said to devour nightmares. According to legend, they were created by the spare pieces that were left over when the gods finished creating all other animals. They have a long history in Japanese folklore and art, and more recently have appeared in manga and anime. "_
I’m a novice surrealist paint/ink artist but I have spent hundreds of hours with AI doing exactly as you stated at the end of the video, and I completely resonated with it. I use it as a way of intentional, yet unconscious art, and with human specificity of particular grammar, tone, etc. it’s extremely possible to literally make dreams a reality before my hands could ever get it on to a page the way I wanted it. I’m not a huge fan of how AI is being used, but for me it’s been rather transformative. Amazing video, don’t know how I missed this one, got lost in the algorithm I suppose but incredible work as always!
Another amazing video! I must say this is by far my favorite out of all the videos you've created. I haven't paid attention to surrealism art for such a long time, and this has piqued my interest again to delve in this form of art, so thank you!
I woke up with something sitting on my chest about ten years ago, the experience terrified me , until I researched it and discovered sleep paralysis. It hasn’t happened since and I promptly became a side sleeper
This was a dang delight. (Edit: I'm surprised you didn't mention the face in the Dali painting with all of the spheres. 8:34 I had to rewind it because I hadn't noticed it until just before the scene changed.) (Double-edit: Now I can't UN-see it! How did I miss her the first time?! My focus must have been on individual spheres rather than the painting as a whole. I've gotta find a print of this. I love it!)
It’s funny, only a few years ago did I notice that 8:23 was a closed eye. I always saw it as a weird human-nosed, platypus-like blob monster with a mustache when I was little!
I love keeping a record of my weirder dreams, I have them written down in a book, I like to add drawings of them whenever I remember enough detail. One I turned into a digital painting, but most are just biro sketches.
The prediction you make at the end sounds like such a dystopia. What happens to people making art in that world, I wonder? Are they not worth more than the AI? :,)
In Finnish nightmare is called "painajainen" which comes from the word "painaa, painaja" meaning "peress, presser". In folktales it's a creature, like a troll, imp or evil spirit who sits on your chest.
On the topic of dream-inspired art - the main man behind the terrific, yet nowadays inequitably forgotten musical project - maudlin of the Well, who goes by the name Toby Driver (idk about the other members of the project who were changing from album to album), stated to "find his music for it in the astral plain" through lucid dreaming and astral projection, rather than compose it. Now whether you believe in astral projection or not (I myself am a firm sceptic towards such concepts), the music created under this project, at least to me is really sth else and strictly for me it's one of the most if not the most important pieces of music I've ever heard and there totally is sth surreal about it. If you're interested in it, I'd recommend starting with the album "Bath", then "Leaving Your Bodymap". It's truly some amazing stuff
About the automatic drawings, yes they were supposed (to be and) to look like scribblings! but labeling them with another name was an act to give the casual drawing the same dignity as the common painting had on the common viewer's eye + think deeper about its making-of process... they were seen as another data, for the surrealist movement members, about the human brain's subconscious and its imaginative power. More interesting are the exquisite corpses the Surrealists invented at the time! Despite the name it is still now a funny game to play with your friends, I suggest to check that out! :)
The aborigines: "hey look I drew a strange dream I had" "Wow!" Some guy on the internet somewhere in the future: "ah, yes, they clearly have been visited by extraterrestrials, amazing how the history of humanity (but mostly in south America, Asia, Africa and Australia) was influenced and maybe even decided by aliens."
Hi Tommie, this comment has no direct link with this video specifically; but I just finished the last episode of "the Interruption" podcast. And boy, was it good! All my congratulations, and thanks, for this awesome content.
Your thorough explanation on the development of this Art direction has sparked some thoughts. Surrealism would be a means to an end when anything that is oddly put together is generally categorized as something from the dream-like realm. I think there could be more. As I question the potential of this art form, I fell back to the application of lines and took off from Surrealism while following the same trend of thoughts on conscious, subconscious and unconscious. The works up to now are still nevertheless rendered by the cognitive brain to make an image recognizable. Therefore, any finished artwork is very much intentional instead of naturally flowing out from the psyche. I can see the residue of a face in Andre Masson’s drawing. It is the closest anyone has gotten to the brink between subconscious and conscious (ie. he did not `properly’ finished the face). Unconscious, on the other hand, I’d say, is scribble mindlessly without any sense involved. Artistry and character can be noted in subconscious lines. From the works of Mondrian, Miro to Pollock, the accidental crossing of lines has proven a faith in action. It is a belief, as Alan Watts put it, `an unreserved opening of the mind to the truth’. Without cognitive interference on the lines is the only way to keep the doorway open to the flow of hidden messages and revelations. The ancient Chinese used an instrument to write on sand for directions from the `higher order’. It is a kind of fortune telling... tapping into the future/unknown. So, if I were to scribble lines on a page and found faces/figures/compositions hidden in between, would this be a revelation, a step further…or something totally off track from Surrealism? Or merely pareidolia? Anyone? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6oc59jywqk8.html
The subconscious is such a facinating thing. In one way, you can say subconsciously we freely have all types of thoughts and feelings. It can induce anxiety, yet if u learn to not overthink, or judge. You can embrace that subconscious. Almost like allowing ur inner youthful wonder join your adult self and when balanced right. It can really fuel creative imagination in our Life and the acceptance of the absurdity of the universe and the parts of it that are seemingly unanswerable. Yet those unanswerable aspects of the universe in another person who hasn't found this inner balance, can be driven mad from overthinking and worry.
"De Cicero" hurt me so much. Constructive criticism: De Chirico actually had lots of debates and he actually despised surrealism as a whole, other than that, GREAT VIDEO AS USUAL
Unless your like me and have Aphantasia and once you close your eyes all you ever see is darkness while awake and during sleep. Some with this condition can have some visualizations to varying degrees during dreams. But dreams for me are simply plot points, words, and descriptions as best as I can put it. If you’ve never heard of this please check it out as it’s a fairly newly recognized phenomenon and this condition has very little to no research into it yet. My dream is the creator of this video reads this comment and becomes inspired to create a video about his impressions on this subject that would be very intriguing to me and I think many others as well. Dream on fellow readers❤
great content, as always. recently I've finished The Interruption and it was one of the best podcasts I've ever heard! I really hope you will grow as a content creator and you will come back with another fascinating podcast. I can't wait to see what you have stored for 2023
I once had a dream about this enormous tree, way before Avatar came out. When I saw the movie for the first time, it was more terrifying than cool. I look back and it's just funny now.
I was with you on the entire video until you started talking about AI art. It was interesting as an experiment at first but its predation on thousands of artists has overshadowed any merit it had of being art to begin with.
the whole video is really informative and gives a lot to reflect upon, I love it! My only request would be for You to improve the pronunciation of the foreign artist's names or to put subtitles with correctly written names, because I can't really understand it and I speak Italian fluently (not my first language though).
It would be nice to get some abstract imagery in my dreams to inspire my art, instead my dreams are all just self-insert Metal Gear fanfiction because that's what I've been playing these days.
So amazing. I also have some of these dreams, most of them are lucid dreams and I also dream in color. But unfortunately I lack any type of artistic ability to draw them xD
Figured I should mention its usually preferred to refer to the Dreamtime as the Dreaming instead as the former implies that it's a culture and tradition that is no longer active.
Yes, I'm surprised that Wm Blake was not included. I saw a wonderful exhibition of his works in London in 1997 that left an impression on me which lingers to this day. On that note, you should see the Jim Jarmusch film, Deadman.
i've always loved surrealism, and a great deepdive would be of the intersection of surrealism and mysticism. Specifically, I love Remidios Varo, Leonara Carrington, and Kati Horna who had connections to Max Ernst, Andre Breton, and Picasso. Exiled during the war to Mexico, the three women would study all sorts of alchemy, spiritualism, and myth.
Future of surrealism most likely won't be done by an AI. To dream is a very living experience and an AI with a database of pictures that may have been taken without consent, cannot create true surrealism, only immitate it. I think the future of surrealism and dream art is done through science instead. Maybe one day, we will know what a born blind man sees in his dreams.
Yep, was really enjoying this video as I usually love this channels videos but the AI part is unfortunate. AI is a sad copy and amalgamation of existing artist's work. It's barely AI as it's not an intelligence per se, it's just algorithms... Art needs soul, not just a look
Yes! Dall-E ofc I got the explanation of Dall-E being also a play on spelling to Wall-E. I wonder if there will be a moment after where AI is inspired by AI.
The sleeping face in Dali’s ‘Persistence of Memory’ appears again in ‘The Great Masturbator’. Both originate as a mound of earth featuring various natural arrangements of objects in Bosch’s ‘Garden of Earthly delights’. Of course this could just be a coincidence.
I never fully understood why people say that they never can remember their dreams!? I remember my dreams all the time, and I can actually recall specific dreams , just so I don’t forget occasionally as I’m laying there. I just think about different dreams can I lick a refresher! Also, if I would get woken up from a dream that I was enjoying, perhaps I was exploring something I don’t know, I can actually go back to sleep and return to that dream! Also, I have no problem doing what I want in my dreams ! I remember a time where when I used to run it was always so slow! But now that’s not a problem! Like I said, I’m able to explore interact talk, ask questions, etc.! I think people call that lucid dreaming! Also, I don’t know if this matters but I’ve been pronounced dead three times , I have bipolar, depression, and I honestly would rather be asleep in my dreams then be in this reality! If you want to get philosophical and theoretical, how do you know that when you go to sleep in this world, you don’t wake up in another world or another reality ! Multiple worlds interpretation!
Hey, such a nice topic, I don't know if the Mare was also part of slavic folklore? , but it originates from Scandinavia, really appreciate and enjoy your videos
I was just looking at your Channel and wondering when you were going to upload a new video and 30 minutes later you upload a new video. I think i have a sixth sence.
Any recommendations for more channels like this? I’ve watched for years and would love to know of similar artists to this/solar sands/ pursuit of wonder
It's interesting how surrealism is still a strong artistic movement without recognizing its troublesome origins in romanticizing mental illnesses. They literally copied drawings and ideas from mental institutions of the time and called it "art". Dali's work is an example of this as well as the so-called "automatic drawing" technique, which is one of the creative symptoms of a lot of psychiatric conditions.
Not to mention it’s literally stolen every thing in their database then doesn’t have the decency to credit anyone. Like they are entitled to have it. Art station has its own program now. No one cares because they’re not artists. I use my art to make money but the ai should just get it for free?! Getty images is suing if Disney would step up it would help.
