Arthas Kills Illidan (2020): Ascends The Frozen Throne Ending Cinematic - Warcraft 3: Reforged Evil 

I absolutelly appreciate what you did for us my guy. Also the music is spot on, there isnt a single moment where i think your editing (sound wise) is off point. Bravo and thank you

Uhhhhhh..... How about the lich king?

Gul'dan?

professor chaos - He’s good, but Arthas has always felt a bit better, especially his death. Arthas’ death was much more satisfying, but don’t get me wrong, I do still love Gul’dan.

Hogger.

Darkctan Hogger was indeed an utter badass.

She said it first.

@@axechop He took away her home. He took away her life. He took away her freedom. But worst of all... he took away her catchphrase.

@@gregorywalter2540 atleast he gave her a peace of death

He said "Its time to end the game" and he ended it.

🤣🤣 just what I was thinking!

Thank you, glad to hear it flowed well! I felt the voices could add a nice bit of tension as Arthas and Anub'arak went through the city and the Old God forces.

@@Athelarius Would it not have been better to get whispers and sayings from Yogg-Saron?

Except that Arthas was good until his lust for vengeance overcame his nature, Anakin always had the darkness in him

@@velenvskaelhas What do you mean? I’ve never heard that before. If you only go by episode 1-3, he’s gradually falling from potential greatness to darkness, through both circumstance, like losing his mother, and manipulation by Palpatine. Whatever darkness he had in him to begin with is nothing more than any other human has to overcome? The difference is what he went through that led him down a path which nourished things like fear, anger, hate and suffering. Everything Yoda warned Anakin about in Episode 1 turned into his entire life, because he always had fear of losing those he loved, thanks to never letting go. It certainly didn’t help telling him he was special, because that only made him believe he should have been able to save anyone. And so he blamed Obi-Wan and the Jedi for «holding him back», when he lost his mother. Jedi and Palpatine are both to blame for his downfall, but Anakin himself made the choices that eventually turned him evil. He was obviously flawed from the beginning, but I’d say not much more than anyone else. What he went through and the choices he made turned him evil, not the other way around.

​@@0That_Guy0 He was always afraid. Fear is a darkness that infests you're very soul, weaving its insidious tendril's through your being until whats left is just the withered remains of what could have been.

they did him so dirty in Shadowlands. It makes me so goddamn sad.

@@velenvskaelhas Everyone has darkness in them. Arthas was never pure. The very concept of vengeance is part of our nature. Same with lust. You used to sinful terms to describe the emotions of someone you call "good".

Damn shame we had to kill him in such a disappointing way. Overpower his vast legions of undead? N'aw, he just sent them away and decided to let us kill him.

played it hard for years when it was out, ill probably last one raid before being over it haha

@@Hust91 You do remember the part where he kills the entire raid, right? Also chewing through his hordes of undead. What did you really want a raid completely swamped with adds?

@@Servellion I wanted a WoW season that was more like a Warcraft 3 campaign, with the players part of enormous armies. With a desperate struggle as the legions of undead basically successfully invade the rest of the world with only a small glimmer of hope from some factor that to The Lich King would be new and unexpected, such as sorcery or technology brought by the Draenei, or demonic knowledge or technology retrieved from the Burning Crusade. If Arthas/Ner'zhul the Farseer who sees through time was to be defeated, it should not have been by him being a secretly suicidal idiot who can't predict that bringing in a bunch of players to face him in single combat was incredibly risky. And of course that Ner'zhul actually be fused with Arthas in such a way that Arthas does not have the ability to get rid of him, since Ner'Zhul's farsight would forewarn him of such a possibility. Or don't defeat him in WoW at all and instead make a movie or separate game better suited for such grand stories that can be ended in ways other than the villain bailing on villainy. That he kills the raid matters little since he still decided to allow them to slaughter their way through all his most important forces and get close enough to him to deliver a killing blow. You beat a world conquering threat by bringing strategic advantages they don't see coming. Maybe a grand ritual like the one Illidan did to summon the entire Frozen Throne out of Northrend altogether like they did Dalaran, or crashing a piece of the Draenei city into its side, a move born of desperation as they cannot fight the undead hordes face to face, so they try to circumvent it.

hey at least we got 35 anima from him in shadowlands

Wouldn’t be woke enough for them

@@Ultrajamz Good fucking lord dude, 2016 was 6 years ago. You can drop the kiddie "woke beta cuck soyboy" shit now lmao

FUND IT.

All credit goes to the original team of writers and developers. It’s testament to their creativity & passion they had for the franchise. Character designs, rich lore, all while holding specific standards and rule sets.

@@Athelarius they got a fortune for this

It was never brilliant, it was good though. Over time, they have written and rewritten themselves into corners they could not get themselves out of and had to retcon a lot of stuff.

He saved Legion, so i don´t think he could save 2 expasions in a row....

He would also 'save' us from WotLK, so give or take.

No, if Illidan destroyed it, then there would be that breach between azeroth and the Maw; just what happened when Sylvanas broke it

If Illidan would have destroyed it we would right jump to the expansion "Shadowlands" skipping all in between!? - That's awful!

The excellent VA is what made warcraft. The voices just matched each character and their design so well that you remember them perfectly in memory, even decades later!

just wish Illidan had a deeper rumbly voice when outside of a cutscene... Illidan is my favorite character of all time@@Athelarius

😭😭😢 after all these years

Warcraft 3 is an incredible game, and is the story that made the franchise what it is today. The amount of creativity that went into creating all these characters, the design, the direction. Wish we could see more of it today but it’s legacy lives on.

@@Athelarius Agreee although I never got into WoW too much, I think the price was a big deal for me (buying games, expansions and paying monthly fees). Is it still worth it to get started on the mmo in 2022?

@@justanenglishman5184 yea, especially since its a new experience, the gameplay is amazing MMO wise, but it is far from its greatness that it was. Best MMO gameplay wise.

best thing about w3 is the world editor and custom games spent a lot of time playing tower defense in online

He also loses levels, which is extremely annoying to deal with. He's level 1 at the start of final mission, a gust of wind can kill him

*knock knock* hello, Warcraft Battle Royale is at your door!

There is something in lore and about game everyone forgotten and that would turn the story around and restore him

"A crown, a throne, and a soul that lives on in the hearts of millions who have come to know Arthas and the story of the Lich King." Long live the King! To date, one of Blizzard’s most iconic & beloved characters, and defining character arcs. One day perhaps Arthas may get his proper debut and continuation of story.

@@ivobaki3751 Nah, he's not getting a redemption arc. And he shouldn't. Not all good bad guys need to be made good guys

@@trollzland1337 i am just saying there is a way to restore him if they are willing to go that way that would open up a new massive story line and many players would return to game cause after wrath of lich king many players felt the story is done for them and left with broken heart and bitter taste in their mouths :(

Gay

"it's over Arthas, I have the high ground!" "You underestimate my power" *undergoes metamorphosis and gets sword to face...er chest** He never learns.

@@Athelarius it should be "its over ilidan, i have the highground" since arthas pwned him

If you read the book, illidan was overwhelming arthas and lost because he left an opening when he came down

@@cflgt500 My comment was not a serious remark, it is a reference to Revenge of the Sith's 'It is over Anakin, I have the high ground.'

@@Athelarius invincibility frame during meta leap :( illidan missplayed it

He can only hover. He can't fly.

Not really. Arthas did care for his...subjects.

In Snape voice: “Always”. I also like the extra animations they put into that cutscene, flowed nicely with Warcraft’s most iconic theme.

Whats is this ost name pleeeease, i search it for days...

@@xsagemdax Arthas my son

Oh thanks! Glad to hear it flowed well. Wanted to go a bit extra for the finale, and felt Arthas deserved it.

@@Athelarius you're doing great keep it up ☺️

Arrogance

because of pride and arrogance

To trigger the main quest?

"These elves are pathetic. It's no wonder we destroyed their homeland so easily"

I mean its the same bad practice you see in hollywood movies where Villains tell their secrets to everyone.

Glad to hear. I spent a bit more time on this one as I felt the finale had to be a bit extra. Thank you!

The music, the VA, the designs, all were just excellent because back then you could see the passion & love reflected in the work with each title released. May we one day receive such masterpieces once more! Good, solid storytelling, with well rounded character arcs.

seriously. the fantasy is already cool enough. dont need to make it all complicated

Blizzard is garbage. The original writers are gone and new ones are actively trying to undo original characters and lore. I played Wotlk for decade now and i returned to retail with Shadowlands expecting some story, and new writers are ACTIVELY trying to avoid the true Lich King Arthas in any way possible. I mean Sylvanas reedeming herself. What a joke. The whole expansion was a big let down. It started great but ended up as complete shit.

Personally, I'd rather wanted Arthas to become unredeemable. But the way they ended his arc in Shadowlands just proves how bad the current writers on Blizzard (Activision) have become. So much more potential to finish the Arc of Arthas. However, for me it should not have been a happy one. Sometimes characters in fiction are no longer able to be redeemed. Also the way Sylvanas was redeemed was also too cheap.

What exactly did he do to deserve redemption? Arthas has shown himself a ruthless fanatic stepping over dead bodies for his own selfish reasons even before becoming a Deathknight, and for all the crap you give Sylvanas - at least she *was* a good person in life. And all that happened aftetwards has little meaning, since virtually anything he could do can be attributed to corruption and influence, rather than being his own doing. Put down your pink glasses and grow the fuck up. Even Garrosh has way more depth than Arthas as this point.

@@krollovic arthas did nothing wrong. theres nothing to be redeemed for.

Idk why would you need to redeem Arthas at all, his story was a masterpiece. this was during early 2000 where "rebellious phase" is the trend. young Arthas underwent a really good phase, and most of the players playing, probably relate with Arthas' story. his naivety/innocence actually killed him. he was forced to turn his back on humans he wanted to protect, he also tried to kill every undead he doesn't like (killing their leader would make him the leader) while accepting that he is also an undead. it's highly similar to kerrigan's story when she was reborn as a zerg queen (she was also betrayed by her superiors, tried to eliminate the head of the zergs and took the crown for hers alone)

The music, the VA, the designs, all just excellent because back then you could see the passion & love reflected in the work with each title released. May we one day receive such masterpieces once more!

Which ruins the story...

There is no Zovaal in Ba Sing Se

It’s not lol do you even follow WoW lore ? Zovaal had no control over Arthas.

@@cizmar1972 Dont worry, Zoval did not plan that, he had no control over arthas.

@@seeqaillmind2540 Either way they ruined the story. I did not want to see the afterlife for any of them. It was better a mystery.

Almost?

Did fuck it up. I quit wow last year but i keep up with its story. Seeing arthas as a blue ball and sylvannas once again taking the floor for this expansion. is the one who talks to him and its just more of her petty garbage. "i hated you, i hunted you" etc. what went from one of the best villains in gaming history went to the the worst ending of a main villain ever. Such a waste of a good Character. It was the main reason i played shadowlands like i did, i just wanted to see arthas again hear his voice. Hear the words of the man with a clean soul not a curse. hear his words on what he did. but no voice no ghost just a blue floating ball...

Sylvannis shouldn't have that kind of power to destroy the helmet. Smh

I think its Yog

@@johngao1971 it's C'thun

CAThun

@@GogaPartizan meow

@nikolai bahtin except that those whispers are from AQ40 in World of Warcraft

Arthas is the best written character in the WOW Universe. The cinematic associated with him are still chill-inducing, decade later, people still play WoW: WOTLK on private servers to re-live the glory, WoW peaked with WOTLK, what can we say..

Erm... If I didn't remember wrongly when I played the old Burning Legion, Arthas took the sword willingly. He even killed a Mountain King who tried to stop him from getting Frostmourne, because the Mountain King actually read the "instructions" on the sword or the tablet near the sword and know that the sword is a cursed sword. By that time, Arthas had already been corrupted in both mind and soul, fueled by his desire for revenge against the Undead Scourge, only to be consumed by it. So he is by no means a victim. According to what I can still remember, Arthas was a Paladin that was sent on a mission to investigate or stop the Scourge from spreading in a city. The Necromancer, under orders from Lich King, kept egging Arthas on. Turning his people into zombies right in front of him, spreading the plague and turning a whole city into zombies right in front of him. The Necromancer kept luring and taunting Arthas deeper and deeper into Blighted Lands and nearer to Frostmourne while letting him witness more and more atrocities, all to fuel the rage and hatred in Arthas. When Arthas ordered an entire city to be purged, that was when he started his fall from grace as a Paladin. The time when had completely fallen was when he murdered his friend the Mountain King in order to get the sword for power to get revenge against The Necromancer. The Lich King Ner'Zhul chose Arthas as his champion and his new body right from the very start with the omniscience ability he gained by becoming the Lich King, but ultimately in the end, Arthas was the one who made his choices and chose his path in life. If Arthas did not give into the desire for revenge, he would still be a Paladin, quite possibly married Archmage Jenna and had taken over his father's kingdom as King instead.

Leave Warcraft to the rts genre. You're asking for shit to be brought to the live action.

If only we knew. If only we hadn't forgotten. May the Lich King live forever on in our hearts, and his legacy endure. The best story of Warcraft.

august i think

Everyone knows he who first claimeth dibs on the Frozen Throne is superior.

I feel if they’d simply do the 2018 cutscenes for some of the major moments of Warcraft 3 and patch then in, it would help immensely. They don’t have to reforge the entire thing but it would at least be progress in the right direction.

Yeah, the fact, that the final cinematic is pretty much the same (in the fight cinematic cape is with holes, in final its solid as new) and the graphics upgrade is pretty much just an hd texture pack. Inconsistency :/

I think it's athelarius who did these improvements and not blizz

@@Geraldo_Rivian That's what I thought too, I realized much much later on.... Looks legit 😅

Never even bought him dinner. The nerve!

Wtf

@@lichking654 anub'arak is alone dude, go give him some love

@@kane7970 no I would never cheat on my kel'thuzad

Because sylvanas has power from jailor, thats why she beat him :)

@@petann8845 Oh please that is not canon my opinion it ended at wotlk after that it sucks

@@Natha_Kun your opinion doesn't make it not cannon sorry.

@@Ojdaweedmane i mean for me the story ended after wotlk and the game starts going downhill

Hey. Nobody ever said Bolvar was more powerful than Arthas. Rofl

Lol i was about to write like what the hell is this title xD

Idk but somehow i believe arthas kill him but illidan is immortal he cant be killed using frostmourne so.... you know illidan died then his souls back to his body you know found a way from spirit healer

What’s second?

Illidan has a demon soul which means allthough he can die, he'll always come back sooner or later. When the last boss in 7.3 died, demons' souls stopped working like that.

Illidan died. Why would Arthas leave him alive if it jeopardizes his plans on Iccecrown? Plus, Arthas would never leave his enemy alive. He killed his dad, he can kill a nigh elf demon.

its they were made by the same company or something

@@totallylegityoutubeperson4170 source?

Not all armor.

Arthas' dragon was Sindragosa. Kel'thuzad's dragon was Saphiron. God damnit WoW lore is good.

@@DmDrae wtf? This is Warcraft 3. Sindragosa wasn’t even raised yet.

Indeed it was. The pinnacle of Warcraft lore. An age of love and dedication to the storyline, characters and world design.

The majority of the budget was spent on creating Sylvanas' 647th new CGI face for Shadowlands and the remaining few cents were allocated to Reforged.

Because people are idiots and are not satisfied. The original has a lot of atmosphere, Reforged kills that mystery and makes it obvious. It lame as hell.

A trilogy would be best. Start with his birth, Invincible, training to become a Paladin. And culminate with the Culling of Stratholme, claiming Frostmourne, returning to Lordaeron & killing Terenas. For the second we could have his whole campaign where he wreaks havoc over Lordaeron, invades Quel'thalas (whole movie arc on its own), fights Sylvanas, rezzes Kel'thuzad and ascending as the Lich King. Then as the third, we could focus on WoTLK’s story, Battle of Light's Hope, Wrathgate Tragendy, with climax as justice is brought to Icecrown itself, wrapping everything up beautifully. (Death Knights at Light’s Hope chapel, Tirion and the Argent Crusade, Jaina coping with her past love, the return of Varian, his childhood friend). Truly believe it'd a masterpiece.

@@Athelarius Totally, Arthas/LK story is too long for just a movie. Or it would be at least a 4 hr film lol

Or just read his wiki page and save yourself some money?

@@Amp661 Yea, cause reading a wiki page its the same as a movie or book...

@@julianbarzana5821 if it's the same, then why need a movie?

Aren't they both based in part on King Arthur?

@@Adam-yq9xe think arthas may be but not sure about artorius the abysswalker

@@blackwingsinthecold8889 admittedly dont know much on dark souls, just know Artorius is a tall black knight with a long sword, so that coupled with the fact his name is the oldest sounding version of Arthur figured they may be something there. Also Arthas is total based on king arthur. Finds a magic sword in a stone(or rather ice) that effectively makes him king, mentor figure named Uther(which is the name of king Arthur's father) and his own name just flat out sounding like Arthur.

@@Adam-yq9xe artorius is a knight but I consider their stories a bit the same due to both being corrupted by the scourge/abyss

@@Adam-yq9xe ....does that mean Kel'Thuzad is supposed to be the equivalent of Merlin? Oh my.

Yes he does. He's freaking dead.

I used to think that Illidan sucks

I think it`s actually plot armor, you can`t compare 20 + years old kid with a sword, against an 10k year old demi god.. it was just writing, if we use logic, it`s pretty obvious who is more skilled than the other and more powerful. I mean, both of them are great as characters, but only one of them one shoted Xe`ra and chose to fight Sargeras.

@@Yolozaur69 Agreed, Illidan is easily one of the most powerful beings in Azeroth....and prior to ever being the glaive-wielding melee fighter that they depict him to be he was THE most powerful sorcerer on the planet. He really is the full package and I don't know who on Azeroth could contend with him at that point in the story. If they were going to use his hubris they needed to sell it way more imho

@@marineone-sixteen5311 Probably because illidan does suck. He's just Kil'Jaeden's bitch. He gets owned over and over by elves, orcs and the undead yet people still try to hype illidan up as some sort of badass.

Yeah I prefer the old. The new stuff lacks.... charm? Looks kind of .. wooden I guess? I don't know but I'm not a fan.

You like shit movies huh?

Idk, Jaina tried to convince him that he wasn't doing the right thing and he totally ignored her. Sure he had info that Uther and Jaina didn't know, but failed to indulge that before going on the destructive spree he did in Strartholme. If the city was going to need to be destroyed he could have given that info and waited until they started turning into undead to prove his point then he would've had all the help needed. Instead, he tried to "pull rank" on Uther (even if it was real he could do) and when met with resistance he declared Uther and his people traitors

Arthas did what had to be done. There was no better option. Jaina and Uther simply washed their hands and did nothing, they selfishly chose clear conscience over greater good. Arthas took all the weight, all the guilt, and all the sacrifices upon his own shoulders, like a true king should in darkest times. And not a single soul acknowledged it. Not a word of praise, support, or comfort. Which is why Arthas turned to Lich King's side. No one needed him in Lordaeron, no one needed his sacrifices. But Lich King needed him, welcomed him, acknowledged him.

@@kamchatmonk Nonsense. For ex; not all people in Stratholme got infected but Arthas killed everyone he found. That's not "doing what has to be done", that's just evil and stupid. Arthas was already gone.

@@Archedgar What should he had done then, wait around until most of the city's population turns to zombies and eats another half, then suffer unneeded losses among his army while trying to deal with an ongoing zombie infestation? His decision was pragmatic.

@@kamchatmonk How about; Kill undead. Detain the rest and act accordingly. WOW SO DIFFICULT.

Most of them are just a HD remastered of the old cinematics and the only new one is terrible compared to the original lol

You will be disappointed, what happened...

If you're actually wanting to work there, don't be a creepy, sexist asshole. Work there because you're genuinely passionate about the game and lore.