Arturia MatrixBrute vs Arturia PolyBrute - Battle of the Big Brutes 

Can you not add looping envelopes thanks to the Matrxbrutes amazing CV patchbay

@@lucid484 You certainly can patch in your favorite function generator to the CV inputs. That's a whole other ball game :) Thanks for watching, TJ

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Both is better no doubt :) Thanks for watching. TJ

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Thanks for watching. Moog and Arturia are very different sound wise. They do compliment each other well. Cheers TJ

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The latest MatrixBrute firmware does have screensaver functionality that turns off the screen after a set time of non use. Thanks for watching. TJ

@@tjontheroad The MB was on my GAS list for the longest time until the PB came out so I ended up buying that but as you’ve demonstrated perhaps there is a case for owning both (though I already have a Moog Subs 37 ;-)

@@symbiat0 owning both is the only right thing to do :)

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@DJ Baby Me to I have owned mine now for 3 years and still love it and still getting new sounds out of it.

Yup wouldn’t give my MB ever

Thanks for watching. MatrixBrute is a bit more specialized than PolyBrute. They make a good team. Cheers TJ

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Buy both. They compliment each other very nicely :) Thanks for watching. Cheers TJ

They compliment each other very well. Go Double Brute!!! :) Thanks for watching, TJ

Hi, For this video I'm using a table for the PolyBrute and an older On-Stage X stand for the MatrixBrute. This is just a temporary setup for the video. Currently in my studio, the PolyBrute is on a Jasper stand with some other keyboards and the MatrixBrute is on an Ultimate Support V-Stand by itself. Both synths are heavy. Be sure to find something that can take the weight. Thanks for watching. Please share and subscribe. TJ

@@tjontheroad Thanks so much!

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Hi Mark, I think I'd get more fun out of both Brutes than a single Quantum. Although Quantum can go places (samples, granular, wavetable) that the Arturia synths can't.

@@tjontheroad Thank you. What got me interested in the Waldorf was my purchase of a Studiologic Sledge. It has a Waldorf engine in it. Its so kool and different. I'm on a hunt for more boutique synthesizers like this. Any suggestions?

@@DreamscapesMusicCinema I have the Iridium and consider that a much better Waldorf offering for the money that it's Quantum sister.

The VCOs have different design architecture and therefor don't sound alike at most settings. You can get them to sound close at stagnate settings. But once you modulate them, the differences reveal in how they interact. Thanks for watching, TJ

@@tjontheroad thanks for the answer. I used to have a MatrixBrute which I gave back after a month because I didnt like the sound of the VCOs, but the polybrute ones seem quite different. hence my question.

@@martinweissberg2890 IMO, both Brutes are more a sum of their parts than any one module. And probably more than most other synths. Arturia VCO sounds are more mid-range focused than older classic Moog, Prophet, or OB like low end weighted sounds. This helps the Brutes to stand out in the mix. Add all the shaping flexibility and you get to where they are unique. If anything, the PB VCOs might be thought of as slightly clearer and thinner than MxB due to the differences in gain levels.

Generally, the MatrixBrute can get more hard edged sounds than PolyBrute. MatrixBrute has greater drive and filter feedback (Brute Factor). So if you like some nasty in your industrial, MatrixBrute might be the better rig. Thanks for watching. Please share and subscribe. TJ

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My first rule of synths is don't buy one hoping that you can make it sound like another. That essentially is what this video is all about. That said, PolyBrute is capable of vintage voice modeling and some other tricks to help replicate sounds of older gear. You can get close, but in the end PolyBrute has it's own sound qualities. Embracing that sound and learning to use it for new experiences will not disappoint. Thanks for watching. Cheers, TJ

@@tjontheroad Thanks TJ. I really dont expect it to sound like those other synths but I definitely hope it can get supremely close to them. OB6 for the wierd SEM filter and pretty much all of them for the late 70's to mid 80's vibe. All of course while being able to stay up to date for today's music (whatever that is, lol)

@@mpmi7588 I've gotten brassy OB like sounds and mellow Prophet like pads with PolyBrute. I haven't been able to get Jupiter like sounds.

@@tjontheroad much appreciated. Ill most likely get this because of your enthusiasm about it. I can't play keys and don't need another synth but I definitely want an analog poly synth and I don't want an old expensive classic. I'd rather a new joint that can sound like an old classic with some tweaking. Thank you sir.

In my opinion, I got the polybrute but I agree to get it because of the sound of the polybrute. It's incredibly powerful, with that price point it better be lmao. But it can really nail down some of those classic brass sounds. The polybrute is so deep but also so adaptive and for an analog synths it's definitely something else. I think what nails it down as my favorite rn is you have an idea of sound and you have so so so much room to get there. I love my other synths but it's either a big ole menu with some unappealing 2 button menu dives or I have to leave some things out. The flexibility in the filters, lfos, oscillators, envelopes, matrix and modulation sources individually are enough to be their own units entirely. And when you realize that everything is per voice the sky is the limit like you can modulate your modulations in the matrix themselves. A couple of downsides imo though 6 voices only No extra variables for mod fx No poly aftertouch (come on flagships looking at the moog one) And of course the $$$

Yep, I hesitated for only about 30 seconds before ordering PolyBrute. No brainer. Thanks for watching. TJ

Techno leans heavy on mono synths. Less on poly synths. So yeah.

Yes, you're correct about the notch filter on PolyBrute. It is a product of the sweeping variable filter type design as apposed to the selector on the MatrixBrute. There could be more mod sources I agree. IMO, Arturia made some design tradeoffs for the sake of the morph features. Thanks for watching, TJ

@@tjontheroadAmong us proud owners of both beasts: Have you ever used the MxB as a 3rd oscillator for the PB? I.e., identical plain vanilla patches (except the waveforms), paraphonic mode on the MxB and layer mode on the PB? Using the ladder filters this can yield pretty Moogish results, albeit with just 3 voices.

@@RayyMusik I can't say I have tried that... yet ;)

Thanks for watching and your comments. I do like the effects on MatrixBrute. They are a big part of the character of it. TJ

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No USB audio on PolyBrute

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@@tjontheroad damn :( that was the selling point of the virus for me

@@shieldyourselfmusic8567 The Virus is a digital synth. USB audio is much easier to implement on it because, unlike the the analog PolyBrute, there's no need for a digital converter of the signal before the final USB output.

@@tjontheroad Looks like if i sell my virus I will need an interface - which would you reccomend with ableton that has low latency - the thing ive found with the virus is its so tight with midi & audio. Ive had oither hardware before where the latency is so bad ive sent it back

Winning? Sure, but I don't keep score. I'm just glad to be in the race :) Thanks for watching, TJ

I'd never sell MatrixBrute. I would sell PolyBrute if it was replaced by PolyBrute 12 ;) Thanks for watching, TJ

@@tjontheroad lol, that’s kinda cheating ☺️ … But I’ll accept your first answer!! Only partly confirmation bias, lol (I’m looking at the MB; less interested in the PB) … Cheers! Be well! 🙂🙏🏼

Both is the only proper answer :) Thanks for watching, TJ

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@@teknomanning why? lol, i still havent bought one and its been seven months. help me make this purchase!!

@@13anjowizard matrix alllows you to explore. The poly as nice as it has like a gimmick Laos’s pad. The Matrix is mono Ute you can make it have T splits. You have Steiner Parker and Moog step ladder filters which can be played in sequence. You can move the assembly up To any slant you desire! Besides It’s BADDDDDASSSS. fucker weighs 44 lbs. you have 256 presets. And it weighs 44 lbs. you will scare your band guitar players hate me. Like NIN ? Here ya go.

You have to see on in person. Size matters👍🏿

There's not much crossover between PolyBrute and Iridium. Very different synths. Thanks for watching. TJ

I won't bash you. But, I encourage you to hear both in person. That may change your mind. Thanks for watching. Cheers, TJ

@@tjontheroad - I have. I appreciate both on a technical level. There's just something about the sound that just doesn't excite me like say firing up my Minimoog does (when its working).

@@MFitz12 That's cool. Thing is to me, I can't understand why there are expectations for them to sound like another synth. I'm not saying specifically you. But. I read about this kinda thing often. The Brute sound is own. Love it or not :) Cheers. TJ

@@tjontheroad - Not expecting it to sound like another synth. I just don't get the tingle from the Arturia stuff (that includes their lesser models too) that I do from others. To me its just meh, not something I would put my hard earned down for. Nothing against Arturia or anything like that.

PolyBrute does respond to PolyAT via MIDI. I use a K-Board Pro4 or a Hydrasynth with mine. There's also talk of adding MPE support in a future update. Thanks for watching, TJ

It's hard to qualify which is "better". PolyBrute is probably more versatile in terms of uses. MatrixBrute is more focused. Only thing that is better is both :) Thanks for watching. Cheers, TJ

@@tjontheroad lol Fair

It is in the sauce my friend. No worries. Cheers, TJ

I could die a much more tragic death :) Thanks for watching. TJ

@@tjontheroad Thanks for posting! i enjoyed it. To be buried in snyths? some would call that a blessing. Me... I would. Bury me in synths.

Are you always this cheerful at parties?