Arturia Polybrute vs Matrixbrute the "did you need both?" review

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Here is my Arturia Polybrute vs Arturia Matrixbrute "did you need both" review or better call it "movie". With a little help from Arturia's Drumbrute Impact.
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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:30 Title Track
00:01:14 Epilogue
00:03:41 Sound Demos
00:15:52 Overview Matrixbrute & Polybrute
00:19:26 VCO´s
00:28:54 Mixer
00:30:54 VCF´s
00:44:01 Envelopes
00:49:53 LFO´s
01:01:48 EFX´s
01:06:03 Arpeggio & Sequencer
01:09:07 Audio Mod & Filter FM
01:15:09 Miscellaneous
01:20:23 Conclusion
01:23:21 Outro
Thanks to my wife for this lovely gift :-)
Used Equipment: Apple iPhone 11 Pro Max, Apple iPhone 7S Plus, Sony ZV-1, Sony HDR-CX625, Universal Audio Apollo Twin Solo, Steinberg Cubase 11 and Apple iMovie
The Intro and Outro was made with Polybrute, Matrixbrute & Drumbrute Impact

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@SeverityOne 2 года назад

What I like about your videos is that you take ample time, yet it doesn't get unnecessarily drawn out. I think I've actually seen this one before, but there's so much in it, that it warrants another view. And a third view for the video about the Waldorf STVC...

@knobsswitches 5 месяцев назад

Thank you very much. i'm already trying to explain most of the details and to entertain at the same time. Glad if it works

@paulonuneesx Год назад

Excellent knowledge, thank you very much for sharing with us!

@hilarymockewich5588 Год назад

This is the only real comparison I could find on the internet. Thankyou for the comparison.

@knobsswitches Год назад

Glad you like it!

@mick3950 2 года назад

We need both ,nothing less will do,great video.

@pedrogomis 2 года назад

keep both is the recommendation as I do. Thank you for this great review

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

I’m glad that you like it!

@rainbowmade1880 10 месяцев назад

Super helpful breakdown and comparison!!!!!

@knobsswitches 10 месяцев назад

Thank you very much! Glad that find it helpful!

@arcticfoxstudios2018 2 года назад

You absolutely need both, along with 7 drum machines and 14 reverb pedals.

@SynthgodXXX 2 года назад

I am seriously considering buying the Polybrute to go with my Matrixbrute! I love the Matrixbrute so much! Great video!

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

I think you won’t regret it ;-)

@kvmoore1 Год назад

Thanks for this wonderful demo and superb explanation of these synths. I also have both and I totally agree with you. While they look similar, they are very different in many ways both in architecture and sound. They compliment each other very nicely.

@kvmoore1 9 месяцев назад

@@Synthpunk123 HI, Synthpunk!

@synkuk 2 года назад

Excellent work, thankyou!

@AdrianDantas 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for your review!

@knobsswitches 10 месяцев назад

My pleasure!

@roblewis5044 Год назад

"When machines rock", and "man"! You made these beautiful synthesisers sing, many thanks to you for making this video, really enjoyed.

@knobsswitches Год назад

Thank you very much. Glad you like it ;-)

@100haymaker 7 месяцев назад

Fantastic comparison. Was going to sell one of these towards buying a 3rd Wave but finding it very hard to justify selling either one. Matrixbrute is a classic monophonic with a great paraphonic mode. Polybrute a great polyphonic. Thinner but you got the best out of it. Thanks again.👍

@kierenmoore3236 5 месяцев назад

PB does have a much thinner sound, right?

@gordonfinne1437 2 года назад

Respect! Such a long video just to convince your wife why you need to keep both ;) Joking aside, nice thorough video. Much appreciated

@criddyla696 2 года назад

nice tunes sir, like your style, great vid overall too, made me turn on my Polybrute and play..... sub

@KGBookkeeping 2 года назад

Great video! Great conclusion; I agree keep ‘em both

@podespault 8 месяцев назад

Respect for Mr Oizo's Flat Beat cover ❤

@knobsswitches 8 месяцев назад

Thanks a lot, but it´s a preset sound ;-)

@kierenmoore3236 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, that was cool. ☺️😎👍🏼

@kierenmoore3236 17 дней назад

Great review, thanks! Do you use the STVC a lot?

@odalv7278 Год назад

amazing video, thanks

@knobsswitches Год назад

Thanks a lot!

@KiR_3d Год назад

Hello! Wonderful demos! What is the 8:30 composition? I think I've heard it somewhere...

@rickhopkinson 2 года назад

Hi :-) great comparison video with plenty of detail... Please can I ask if the Polybrute's sequencer is able to do free time recording or is it quantised? My korg minilogue doesn't have a free time option and is a bit frustrating as I have to keep recording to get it right, and I like to not be too rigid to quantised sequences... sounds less human

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

The way I see it, you always have a grid through the time division. so no free run

@rickhopkinson 2 года назад

@@knobsswitches Ok thank you :-)

@joaquinosiri6518 Год назад

I have both, love them lots.. Got the prophet xl and iridium and a synth that blew my mind was the vector... And of course the hydrasynth goes hard

@kierenmoore3236 Год назад

Vector?! What’s that? 🤔 The Prophet VS ?

@Jusquaquant 9 месяцев назад

J’aime beaucoup tes sons 👍 Merci

@knobsswitches 9 месяцев назад

merci beaucoup!

@Digiphex 2 года назад

What a lovely kitten.

@klstay 2 года назад

The ability to use the LFOs as simple 1 shot EGs giving fully articulated multi-timbrality elevates matrixbrute above other mono/para synths. Though also a wonderful design some pads and chord progressions patches with long releases could be a problem on polybrute. Unless a bag o' coin dropped on me if buying a poly and a mono I would certainly agonize over it, but then probably get something with more voices. (If that bag were large enough I would get all three...)

@awpMusic1 2 года назад

Great video - and music - I have both too and will not be parting with either!

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

There is nothing to add! 😀

@troublesomecorsair 2 года назад

Impressive! It's like a MonoPoly atop a PolySix or a Pro 3 above a Take 5 or a Matriarch beneath a Grandmother maybe an Argon8 with a Cobalt8X below possibly Memorymoog with the One

@kierenmoore3236 5 месяцев назад

Except these siund nothing like any of those synths. ☺️

@lifelies 2 года назад

Thank you VERY MUCH for such comparison. Honestly, the best - I went other way, having Polybrute for 2 years and producing music almost Everyday (Lifelies is my project) Polybrute is my master sound maker. 3 days ago I went to my local music shop to get Waldorf Iridium Keyboard. But I wasn’t happy with the sound even I have Waldorf Streichfett and Blofeld while playing on them daily. Next to Iridium there was Maxibrute Noir - after few notes and VCO moves I felt in love. So I went home and found your video. Yea, also using Arturia Drumbrute Imact, Microfreak and Digitakt so I believed you. Also as you played some patches I even found something I was missing on Polybrute. So Today I finally got Matrixbrute and YES - tempted immediately - 2hrs of instant enjoyment. Yea, both Polybrute and Matrixbrute are the best ever synths so thanks again for helping me to get it :)

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

My pleasure. Both brutes are superb synths but the Matrixbrute is a kind of raw and edgy which the Polybrute lacks a bit

@lifelies 2 года назад

@@knobsswitches yep, Maxibrute is like techno machine & hardcore synth with really raw elements while Polybrute is singing beauty for existing sounds. Both are Stars of different World

@joaquinosiri6518 Год назад

We have the same synths, but you should seriously check out vector... Bought it and had hopes it was great, but it blew my mind...

@kierenmoore3236 Год назад

Vector? 🤔🙃

@knobsswitches Год назад

I‘m happy when my video helped you with your decision

@servicecatchers3190 2 года назад

Super,Thank you guru

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

Glad, you like it. Spread the word ;-)

@Screaming-Trees 10 месяцев назад

So the answer is?? You need both? I have to admit I am tempted by the MatrixBrute Noir. Hard to always tell from online demos but it might be one of the nicest sounding modern mono synths I've heard. Thanks for the great overview.

@mathaze9122 7 месяцев назад

the mr oizo part !!!😍

@samprock Год назад

At that time my decision was special edition of Subsequent 37CV, when MatrixBute was in parallel. Never regret. When piggy bank populated PolyBrute came along….. though Neon Lights are so so luring :) cool jamms!!!

@knobsswitches 11 месяцев назад

the Subsequent37 is defnitely a very good competitor. good choice. thanks!

@zweiundneunziger3484 Год назад

Was für geile Musik am Anfang von Dir!

@knobsswitches Год назад

Dankeschön! Meinst Du den Intro Track?

@zweiundneunziger3484 Год назад

Ich meine deine Sound Demos. Sehr cool. Würde dich gerne unterstützen und deine Musik kaufen- also sofern du sie überhaupt verkaufst!

@knobsswitches Год назад

@@zweiundneunziger3484 das ist sehr nett von dir. danke. ich denke das es momentan noch zu früh ist für Patreon, etc...später, wenn es mehr subscriber gibt werde ich das vielleicht mal angehen. sample packs, song download, etc... mal sehen. wenn dir mein sound gefällt kannst du dir ja mal meinen letzten release von 2017 anhören auf meshwork music. das Projekt nennt sich Ferrochrome: www.meshwork-music.com/project/ferrochrome/ vielleicht ist das ja etwas für dich.

@zweiundneunziger3484 Год назад

Wird gemacht, vielen Dank für den Link. :)

@rainbowmade1880 10 месяцев назад

Great music. Getting a Polybrute soon..

@knobsswitches 10 месяцев назад

Congrats. Good choice

@lokologico 2 года назад

I own a polybrute and I love it . I’m tempted to try the matrix brute but in a way I wish they made a keyboard less version to accompany the polybrute …and save on space even.

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

that seems to be difficult. i can imagine, that the MB without a keybaord will be still a massive instrument. may you try the minibrute 2 instead?

@OPTIONALWATCH Год назад

Do you mean like a module version only?

@lokologico Год назад

@@OPTIONALWATCH yeah

@Soshize Год назад

@@knobsswitches i fell in love with a minibrute 2s tonight

@knobsswitches 10 месяцев назад

@@OPTIONALWATCH yes

@GearGuy Год назад

Great video and very in-depth, but the one question I have: If you ABSOLUTELY had to choose just one of them, which one would you choose and why? They are both very large synths and honestly most people cannot fit both in their studios (nor could most people afford both)…so which one would you buy (or if this helps, which would you buy first assuming the 2nd one would not be able to be purchased for quite some time). To take the question one step further since the above assumes money is not an issue (and the poly is likely to be the answer since it is a true poly)… At what price point would you say that the matrixbrute (since it is now much more discounted on the used market) makes it just so compelling that it is the recommend choice of the two? Granted if the matrixbrute is the answer to the first question then the price point question is a bit moot. Anyway, I hope the above questions are clear.

@knobsswitches Год назад

If I have to choose one of them. The Matrixbrute! It's more gritty and direct and I love that you have to deal with him to get a good result 🙂

@GearGuy Год назад

@@knobsswitches Good to know, thanks ! I think its great that Arturia is also adding features after the fact for the Matrixbrute as well… hopefully they keep it up.

@lsdfun 2 года назад

I must have both, I'm in love.

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

Go for it!

@xdrabbit 2 года назад

Cool music!

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

Thanks a lot!

@ogasi1798 2 года назад

ikea brada stands under the PB are brilliant - so strong and amazing for providing perfect angles for a few measly quid/euro

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

yes, and it helps a lot with the angle to see the display better on an e-piano.

@user-cq1zh6rd6d 2 года назад

... I see a ¡¡¡Schmidt!!! behind the Arturia Matrixbrute ... ... A review of the Schmidt would be very interesting ...

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

Yes, it´s on my timeline for 2022 and still in work. But first the 2600m-review will come soon

@radiomorph 2 года назад

Your music is beautiful.

@kierenmoore3236 Год назад

Have you compared the Morphee to a Touché controller? You have plenty of cv inputs on the back to do a direct comparison! ☺️

@knobsswitches Год назад

No, sorry. Didn‘t had the chance to use a Touché yet

@payt01 10 месяцев назад

They need to release a version of the PB with poly AT.. that would be aweesome :) Now that I have the Hydrasynth I have no Idea how I ever did without. Love your demos btw :) I have microbrute and microfreak, but of course they hold no candle to the Matrixbrute and Polybrute.. If I had the space I might go for a Polybrute one day, as I love how it sounds!

@knobsswitches 10 месяцев назад

glad, you like my demos. thanks! I think Arturia will bring the Poly AT feature to their synths in the future.

@Trottelheimer 10 месяцев назад

The PolyBrute responds to poly AT through MIDI, so a Hydrasynth could be used to go there :)

@knobsswitches 10 месяцев назад

@@Trottelheimer good to know! Thanks for mentioning

@Getthenderson 2 года назад

Can you do multiple audio mods (FM) at the same time on either?

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

Nope. The VCO Outs are not in the ModMatrix as a Source

@Trottelheimer 10 месяцев назад

Nice comparison. I have both and love them to bits :-D Both are powerhouse synths - the MatrixBrute being the wild child and the PolyBrute being more grown up and wise, so to speak.

@GeorgiRusev 8 месяцев назад

If you already have two polysynths (one analog and one digital) which one of these would you recommend for a third?

@knobsswitches 8 месяцев назад

of course it also depends on your sound. i would recommend the Matrixbrute in this case, because it can do some pretty crazy stuff

@GeorgiRusev 8 месяцев назад

@@knobsswitches I own the OB-6 and the Jupiter-X. Is a third polysynth necessary as a complimentary adding new sound spectrum that these polys can't cover or would a mono be of more help creating bass and other stuff in the threesome party?

@leo-fx8go Год назад

Your so awesome? Thank you so much❤

@knobsswitches Год назад

I’m flattered! 🙏

@RayyMusik 2 года назад

I also have both synths; each has many pros and a few cons. However, I would care even less about which one is ’better‘ if I had a *Schmidt* in my studio. OMG, does the massive MatrixBrute look slim compared to that beast!

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

Yes, it´s quite a beast and difficult to move alone ;-)

@RayyMusik 2 года назад

@@Leviathan-mj8gi Define ‘similar‘. MB and PB both have the characteristic Arturia sound (based on the oscillators?), but not the same filters. Those of the MB are much more versatile, albeit not state-variable like the PB‘s Steiner-Parker. There is an overlap, but it is smaller than expected.

@RayyMusik 2 года назад

@@Leviathan-mj8gi Yup, they complement each other; otherwise I had sold the MB. The MB sounds indeed bruter due to: - 3 oscillators per voice, - the more effective filter feedback (Brute factor), - that general general headroom difference between mono and poly synths; a Subsequent 37 voice also sounds more powerful than a Moog One voice.

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

I totally agree with Rayy’s description

@dvamateur 2 года назад

How is an auto-accompaniment different in concept from an arpeggiator?

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

I would say these are pre-made patterns that are meant to fit a musical context (rhumba, bossa nova,etc...) often used with electronic organs and played only with a single finger. An arpeggiator simply takes notes that you play and repeats them in a pattern without Rests.

@dvamateur 2 года назад

@@knobsswitches I thought you could make your own auto-accompaniments and your own arpeggios.

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

@@dvamateur in which context? Both, the Polybrute and the Matrixbrute did not have an auto/accompaniment! You could Programm the sequence or use the Arpeggiaencer (Arp&Seq buttons together). With this you could program a kind of rhythmic pattern

@dvamateur 2 года назад

@@knobsswitches Okay, let me give you an example. I saw this Moog 55 system demo. The guy is using the step sequencer to play a sequence of notes. Then he routes the keyboard CV to control the initial note of the sequence. This way he can transpose the sequence exactly like a player can transpose the auto-accompaniment by holding a single key, or a chord. Then my questions is, what is really the difference between a step sequencer/arpeggiator and auto-accompaniment? They both auto play, and they both can be transposed at a press of a key. What is the difference then?

@Steph_7d7 Год назад

So if you could only have one, which would it be?

@knobsswitches Год назад

The Matrixbrute

@davidbetts2980 Год назад

My Matrixbrute is paid for and comes Tuesday 🙂

@knobsswitches Год назад

Congrats! You will definitely not be disappointed 😀

@pseudomass 2 года назад

what stands are holding these magnificent beasts up?

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

These are rolling tables from a television repair shop. They used them to repair the heavy old tube televisions. But nowadays the televisions are paper-thin and usually no longer capable of being repaired. They sold 30 of these rolling tables. I came across them when I was looking for an adequate stand for my Schmidt 8-Voice. I now have 9 of them and am very happy with them.

@pseudomass 2 года назад

@@knobsswitches love the repurposing

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

@@pseudomass Yes!

@spawnthecrazy Год назад

What synth is behind both of the Arturias?

@knobsswitches Год назад

Schmidt 8-Voice Polyphonic Synthesizer!

@knobsswitches Год назад

i also released yesterday a review about the schmidt: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_e7xDYvbU5g.html

@odalv7278 Год назад

"...i'll definitely keep both" a great decision 😝

@0072gldnfngr 9 месяцев назад

- 8:30 - 10:39 👆🏾👆🏾 These two are my favorite! Very nice. I can tell that you are a wizard with the Matrix Brute! I aspire to these levels as I recently acquired a MB (Noir edition) myself about a month ago. I love it so far. Now I’m on the hunt for a poly synth and was curious about the PB. Thanks for a great review!

@knobsswitches 9 месяцев назад

Thank you very much. I´m flattered! There are a lot cool new PolySynths on the market. The PB would´nt disapoint you i think. Test it

@0072gldnfngr 9 месяцев назад

@@knobsswitches I’d certainly like to. We will see. Thanks again!

@OPTIONALWATCH Год назад

I own the MB and you should ask Arturia for a discount voucher or commission because you just sold me a Polybrute!😀

@knobsswitches Год назад

Happy to hear! may you should tell them so :-)

@OPTIONALWATCH Год назад

@@knobsswitches It's been fun with both instruments since I bought the PB in late November. I'm pleased with both.

@kierenmoore3236 18 дней назад

If you could only keep one of them, which would it be … ?! 😊

@knobsswitches 18 дней назад

@@kierenmoore3236 the Matrixbrute!

@bastientoutcourt 3 месяца назад

bon musicien thx

@knobsswitches 3 месяца назад

Merci :-)

@klausalberts2240 7 месяцев назад

The Arturia MatrixBrute is a monophonic analogue synthesizer, the Arturia PolyBrute is a 6-fold polyphonic analogue morph synthesizer. I think it's a bit of a shame that you don't explain these different methods of sound generation in your video clip for the introduction and because both synthesisers use different methods of sound generation, I wonder whether it makes any sense at all to compare the two synthesisers.

@knobsswitches 7 месяцев назад

i'm sorry that this doesn't make sense to you. i say at the beginning that there are enough excellent videos explaining the appliances in detail that i don't do that. and therefore i assume that people already know the difference between the two synthesizers (monophonic/polyphonic). of course it's an apples and oranges comparison. i don't explain that they are different fruits. it's much more about the fact that they both come from the same organic farm and whether you need both ;-)

@bastientoutcourt 3 месяца назад

Nice technologie

@bastientoutcourt 3 месяца назад

music through the most complex waves

@kierenmoore3236 18 дней назад

40:15 … That’s not Your Woman by White Town, is it? 🤔

@RvBy88 10 месяцев назад

Your sound reminds me of the Theme Hospital music, which was genius

@petervdveenmuis Год назад

What about 2 Matrix Brutes? Double the power.

@knobsswitches Год назад

In my opinion, it is better to add another sound source (arp2600m, matriarch, pro3...) because there are a lot of modulation possibilities. 2 MB's don't bring that much more sonically.

@kamelhamlaoui9983 Год назад

@@knobsswitches just watched your video, loved it. I have an OBX-8 / Oberheim SEM’s pro + patch panel. I definitely want a Matrixbrute. I love minimal dark techno / minimal house and funk…. Any advice? Answe please.😎☔️

@knobsswitches Год назад

@@kamelhamlaoui9983 I think the Matrixbrute will work very well with the Oberheim Patch Panel!

@kamelhamlaoui9983 Год назад

@@knobsswitches thanks for your answer!👍🏻😉

@Lainer1 Год назад

I think each one is a distinct instrument. the Matrixbrute is more mono, paraphonic and has more ways to use the CV in the back. But the Polybrute is more for the polyphony and splitting the keyed to play two parts. Both are beautiful.

@knobsswitches Год назад

there's nothing to add. you're absolutely right.

@virgillesterlin 2 года назад

I PERSONNALY THINK THE MATRIX BRUTE IS MORE CREATIVE AND ENJOYABLE FOR CREATING SOUNDS WITH IS 64 MATRIX OPERATING PADS!

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

The Matrixbrute definitely invites experimentation and is very comfortable with its large matrix.

@kierenmoore3236 9 месяцев назад

16 x 16 = 256

@KiR_3d Год назад

Thank you for the comparison! Now I clearly see how much PolyBrute misses comparably to MatrixBrute's capabilities. IMHO it was a big mistake of getting rid of CV inputs in PolyBrute! Yes, it could be not a very easy task for the engineers but it's a "must have" feature for a flagmanship like this! Also the lack of Audio Input is simply ridicilous! It's practically there but somehow Arturia's marketeers decided that it will be "bad for this model". Oh... I hate these f...ng marketing managers! They're pure evil now in the MOST of synth companies!

@Trottelheimer 10 месяцев назад

I doubt it has to do with marketing - CV I/O is mono territory, it just isn't a good fit for a poly.

@kierenmoore3236 9 месяцев назад

@@Trottelheimer “Why not?!”

@Trottelheimer 9 месяцев назад

@@kierenmoore3236 Because on a mono the CV maps 1:1 to the one voice, whereas on a poly you'd either need CV IO for all voices or some scheme to pick which voice or a mix of voices to produce the CVs. It would be compromised. To get something like the CV I/O from the MatrixBrute on a poly is not realistic. An audio in is also a better fit for a mono. In addition to the "conceptual" issues, it increases cost and complexity, and it's not something that many poly users would be using. For hose things a mono is the ticket. Not all synths haver to have all things, and in particular things that aren't a good fit technically or economically👍

@NIKOLAS200 9 месяцев назад

The question in the title reminds me my wife…

@knobsswitches 9 месяцев назад

Haha. 🤣show her the video, may she understands why you need both :-)

@deejay7339 6 месяцев назад

Replace both with "all"

@waveterm 2 года назад

9:11 Hahaha

@starsunderer Год назад

or do you just get a moog one since your getting closer to that price point lol

@knobsswitches Год назад

to get close to the price of a Moog One, you can add a Prophet5 on top of the two Brutes :-)

@user-lf8jt6ny1h 2 года назад

NB! Warning for polybrute owners! After the second version of the firmware, I began to get freezes when I pressed the buttons. The parameter button does not always respond the first time. Sometimes only after 4-5 attempts! !! At one point, this options button broke.. More precisely, the fastening of the button itself has broken and now it staggers. At least it works the same, but still annoying. Concluded for myself ! Sound - chic and huge! Аssembly - Made in China! Firmware 2.0 - need to fix! Plastic button #setting# - unreliable!

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

Sorry to hear that. I believe meanwhile a new OS 2.0 version is online. May you try to install it. The hardware failure is of course very sad :-/

@knobsswitches 2 года назад

@@regarolt1691 sorry to hear this as well. I never had issues with my MB and the one issue with the PB was very quickly solved from the German distributor TOMESO.

@bastientoutcourt 3 месяца назад

matrix brute