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The Army of the Republic of Vietnam (ARVN) fought alongside American and Australian troops to retake the then South Vietnamese Captial during the Tet Offensive in 1968. I take a look over some of the Kit and Equipment used (and captured) by them during this period.
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@sackjhindo511
@sackjhindo511 Месяц назад
New subscriber here. I'm a doctoral student currently doing research on ARVN right now, specifically the ARVN Rangers. I must say I am impressed with your video considering the lack of Western videos talking about ARVN and their weaponry (Battle Order, Kabutoes, and Memories of the South Vietnam, being some of the few other channels dedicated to covering this misrepresented army). I'd like to make some additions to your video (if a pin would suffice, I'd greatly appreciate it so others may see). Firstly, the ARVN ERDL is frequently referred to as "Leaf" pattern and were primarily used by the Rangers and Airborne. Second, as far as "liberating" and acquiring modern weapons outside the main supply line is concerned, I'd refer to some info I found in Lt. Col. Keith Nightengale's "Just another day in Vietnam" and Hieu D. Vu's "Republic of Vietnam Army Ranger". The latter is a collection of roughly translated memoirs by various ARVN Rangers and the former focuses on Nightengale's time as a Ranger advisor with the 52nd Ranger Battalion. Both books mention the 52nd and how their unit in particular augmented their existing Korean War vintage weapons with 2 M60s gifted to them by the commander of the US 11th Armored Cav in exchange for a collection of captured enemy weapons. It wasn't uncommon for captured weapons to be used as bartering chips with American forces as they even advisors used captured AKs as a way to barter for improved living conditions for their ARVN units as well as more modern weapons. For some additional context - Nightengale's memoir takes place during an operation around spring-summer of 1967 where the 52nd Rangers were tasked with locating and destroying a VC fortification along the Dong Nai River north of Xuan Loc during which in the later phases of the operation, the 52nd helped relieve an element of the 11th Armored Cav (which had gotten stuck by terrain and later by enemy ambushes). The 52nd would earn its second Presidential Unit Citation along with those M60s as a token of gratitude from the 11th ACV. Give those books a read. I HIGHLY recommend them
@RMMilitaryHistory
@RMMilitaryHistory Месяц назад
Those books sound great. I’ll look them up. Thanks for watching
@bretlowski
@bretlowski Месяц назад
I'm also researching the ARVN, for a story I'm trying to write. So, thank you for those recommendations! Most productive lunch break ever 👍
@quanlee4919
@quanlee4919 13 дней назад
Vuong Mong Long's memoirs might help you, he was a ARVN ranger in Pleiku, the one who held Pleime for 33 days
@bretlowski
@bretlowski 13 дней назад
@@quanlee4919 thank you!
@sackjhindo511
@sackjhindo511 13 дней назад
@@quanlee4919 Do you have the name of these memoirs and if it’s translated to English? Unfortunately a lot of good Ranger memoirs are found in Viet language magazines
@bretlowski
@bretlowski Месяц назад
I've been searching for videos about the ARVN and have come up with almost nothing until I found this. Thank you for the video and thank you for showing respect to the ARVN, too often they are dismissed, derided, or forgotten.
@linhlinh5757
@linhlinh5757 Месяц назад
Cảm ơn bạn, chúng tôi đã cống hiến tận sức cho Miền Nam Việt Nam của chúng tôi nhưng dường như phương tây đã không công bằng với những hy sinh của chúng tôi
@theimperialroyalgamer4965
@theimperialroyalgamer4965 Месяц назад
To clarify, 2:37 the Airborne soldiers are actually wearing green dominant ERDL in ARVN cut style. ARVN ERDL wasn't widely used until late 68-69 which was first worn by the ARVN Rangers
@RMmilitarymiscellany
@RMmilitarymiscellany Месяц назад
Nicely done, the ARVN need more attention.
@christopherwang4392
@christopherwang4392 Месяц назад
Don't forget the Republic of Vietnam Air Force, Navy, and Marines.
@Sd1v8v
@Sd1v8v 2 месяца назад
I recall playing vietcong 2 on the pc back in 2007 and being intrigued by the different types of arvn units and their equipment/uniforms, so much so I bought a men at arms book about the arvn. Great video 👍
@7D.45
@7D.45 Месяц назад
Vâng, nhưng dù bạn chơi kiểu gì, quân giải phóng vẫn thắng😂
@Sd1v8v
@Sd1v8v Месяц назад
@@7D.45 The game also gives the player the ability to fight the war from another perspective as a young vietcong recruit fighting before and during the Tet Offensive.
@nickvu1873
@nickvu1873 Месяц назад
@@7D.45 quan phong dai 🤡
@hanchiman
@hanchiman 19 дней назад
A forgotten flawed classic, although the first one was way more superior, but Vietcong 2 if looking thru the bugs, it pretty good urban warfare
@trevor8493
@trevor8493 27 дней назад
Nice job , a topic that is rarely discussed
@VietnamWarSummarized
@VietnamWarSummarized Месяц назад
Nice video, good to see the ARVN getting some love.
@timothiusthegreat6856
@timothiusthegreat6856 2 месяца назад
These aren't just og107 utilities. The ARVN had their own uniforms that looked a lot like the US sateen uniforms, but had much more variety to them.
@RMMilitaryHistory
@RMMilitaryHistory 2 месяца назад
Indeed they did, hence why I mentioned the ARVN ERDL patterns. Wanted to highlight both the American and South Vietnamese produced fatigues
@kevinduong337
@kevinduong337 Месяц назад
@@RMMilitaryHistory ARVN OD uniforms were made of a different material than OG107, and were in a darker olive shade but usually faded so they’d look very similar. I believe the guys in this clip were from an RVN Air Force Security unit. Also in the footage, the ARVN paras are wearing green-dominant ERDL. The ARVN ERDL pic you added is the succeeding pattern which is often referred to as BDQ camo (because the Rangers got them first). I think typically you’d see Airborne wearing ERDL from 1967-1970 and BDQ camo 1971-1975.
@charleshutton84
@charleshutton84 29 дней назад
I’ve read that the M1and M2 carbines were popular amongst the ARVN because they were smaller and the smaller statured ARVN troops could carry and use them better than the bigger and longer m-16
@joeclark7214
@joeclark7214 2 месяца назад
I really enjoy these videos! Very good as usual
@hoppinggnomethe4154
@hoppinggnomethe4154 28 дней назад
3:22 It's not just a copy. It was manufactured with the help of the Soviet when the two's relations didn't go sour.
@bunthegoldendoodle
@bunthegoldendoodle Месяц назад
Okay video, but there’s a decent bit of inaccuracies. Hopefully this’ll help you in better documenting the ARVN. 1. ARVNs were not issued OG-107s. Although their uniforms are similar, they differ in the cut and material. The general name for the ARVN cut is M59. They were not made out of OG-107 material, but rather a darker 10oz heavyweight cotton material. M59 Uniforms differ in the way that their pockets are shaped, the buttons, the fly, and among many others. Often seen with M59s are shoulder and elbow reinforcements along with epaulettes (although not seen with ODs quite as much). These make them distinctly different from the OG-107 cut. Although sometimes seen are ARVN troops modifying their pockets to replicate OG-107 type 2 or type 3 cuts. 2. Another thing I saw was when talking about the ARVN rucks or bags. In the video, the man is actually wearing an M1945 field pack. This would be issued starting in the late 50s and would be issued alongside the ARVN ruck by 1965 before being completely phased out by the end of 1968. ARVNs were not issued other packs like buttpacks which you put a picture of in the video. 3. The camo patterns talked about don’t really give a good overview on the camo patterns used by the ARVN. This video takes place during the May Offensive, and therefore 3 main camouflage patterns would be given to ARVN airborne and ranger troops. This would be Invisible ERDL, poplin ERDL, and ripstop ERDL (all in M59 cut, most of the time with reinforcements and epaulettes). “ARVN ERDL,” or more commonly known as “BDQ,” named after the rangers, wasn’t issued widespread until late 1968. What could also be mentioned would be the fact that BDQ was first only made in a poplin material with a lime color (or sometimes yellow), and only being promptly switched over to a heavyweight cotton version in 1969. All of these being mentioned would probably be able to give people a better understanding of ARVN camouflage patterns. And it is especially important to list that ripstop ERDL was only issued to the ARVN when the May Offensive started, not the Tet Offensive. Overall, the video is an okay overview, but it could use a lot of improvements. Hope this info helps you!
@RMMilitaryHistory
@RMMilitaryHistory Месяц назад
thanks for the tips, I spent way to much time trying to work out that Ruck which turned out to be the field pack, thank you for watching!
@bunthegoldendoodle
@bunthegoldendoodle Месяц назад
@@RMMilitaryHistory On second look, I think it might be an M17 gas mask bag, which is interesting. It doesn’t have the snap hook and D-ring strap. However, with that out of the way, this was not very common, and most ARVNs were still issued M1945s or ARVN rucksacks.
@paipan39
@paipan39 2 месяца назад
Good material for colecting!
@blue-skyuniform
@blue-skyuniform Месяц назад
The green uniform we see, is also possible that a ARVN made uniform, south vietnam also made there own uniforms. On my channel is mostly abouts the Vietnamese uniforms, equipment. From 1946 to this day, every uniform that north as wel south vietnamese has nog much be told, and that has to change
@RMMilitaryHistory
@RMMilitaryHistory Месяц назад
Aahh thanks for the correction, I’ll definetly be checking out your videos to learn more!
@williamlydon2554
@williamlydon2554 Месяц назад
The ARVN our often overlooked which is odd considering they were one of the two primary belligerent nations during the war. Wonderful video. Curious I've often heard it said that M-14s weren't issued to South Vietnamese troops due to their length vs the size of the average soldier, is this true or merely an urban legends?
@minutemanstudios1338
@minutemanstudios1338 25 дней назад
Just wanted to clarify, when you talk about the body armor that the ARVN airborne troops are seen wearing near the beginning of the video, you called the 2 vests there the m69. The correct vests seen in those clips are: the m52a, a Korean era flak vest without a collar and epaulettes, and the 3/4 collar flak vest, a better version of the m52a with a collar added to protect the neck area. The m69 (what you mentioned), was a post war variant of the 3/4 flak best but the closure in the front was made of Velcro because they got rid of the buttons and zipper.
@RMMilitaryHistory
@RMMilitaryHistory 24 дня назад
I did notice that right after uploading, thanks for the clarification
@thatfetus5739
@thatfetus5739 Месяц назад
Hallo just wanted to add to something in minute 3:03. The two men shown in the frame are using the M1952A flak vest , a few seconds later shows a man using the actual m69 flak vest, you can see the diffrence in the collar and the color , the m1952A does not have the 3/4 collar on the vest, while the m69 vest has the 3/4 collar on the vest. I own these two flak vests from my collection, and the diffrences are pretty visible. Just wanted to help you out! your doing gods work making these videos!
@thatfetus5739
@thatfetus5739 Месяц назад
The Arvn airborne man holding the Chinese Type 56 Rifle in 3:14 is using the m69 3/4 collar vest so and next to him on the left the M52A vest. Here you can see the difference, keep doing your amazing content brother 👏 ❤
@pablosoleramaeso4561
@pablosoleramaeso4561 Месяц назад
Thought that was just Highland ERDL, does it really differ from the ARVN ERDL pattern in the video? Cause at first glanze it doesn't seem "light" or "invisible" ERDL.
@thatfetus5739
@thatfetus5739 Месяц назад
​@@pablosoleramaeso4561I'm not sure about the camo, but it might be the "Nhay Du" or the BDQ erdl pattern, used by the ARVN Biet dong quan Rangers but not sure if it was used also by airborne troops, I haven't researched much about erdl camo pattern so please correct me if im wrong! ❤
@pablosoleramaeso4561
@pablosoleramaeso4561 Месяц назад
@@thatfetus5739 Yeah you are right, it is Nhay Du ERDL, is actually a bit too "greener" for Highland. Thanks for the info.
@thatfetus5739
@thatfetus5739 Месяц назад
@pablosoleramaeso4561 No problem, brotheren, i guess my research did pay off 🤣🤣🤣
@chiefteefteefreturns3320
@chiefteefteefreturns3320 Месяц назад
Don’t forget South Korea sent thousands of troops also
@jonathanferguson1211
@jonathanferguson1211 2 месяца назад
4:27 - specifically an XM16E1 or an M16A1 - both had forward assist and early M16A1s still had the second type 3-prong flash-suppressor. There is no meaningful difference - only the rollmark.
@RMMilitaryHistory
@RMMilitaryHistory 2 месяца назад
I thought it may have been 💪
@kencampbell1750
@kencampbell1750 2 месяца назад
Great vid! The M16 looks to the the slick side M16A1 with the 3 prong flash hider. The target of the propaganda leaflet was the American troops- the reference to “your own ones” and the Vietnamese people, removing the distinction between North and South. Loved all the M1 carbines with the taped jungle mags. Looks like the soldier next to the Type 56 brandishing one has M26 “lemon” grenades on his flak. I used to play army wearing my dad’s old flak jacket and can confirm it will sap you out if it’s humid and hot out 😂
@RMMilitaryHistory
@RMMilitaryHistory 2 месяца назад
@@kencampbell1750 ahh I was torn with the leaflet being for American or ARVN, but I guess it works either way
@jonathanferguson1211
@jonathanferguson1211 2 месяца назад
@@kencampbell1750 As I say - it's either XM16E1 or M16A1. It's impossible to say because they are identical with changes to parts on both over time.
@earlnovero8208
@earlnovero8208 Месяц назад
I'm new subscriber here, I researched the south Vietnamese side because so many misconception and propaganda against south Vietnam.
@AndrewTranBaseball
@AndrewTranBaseball Месяц назад
Yeah, as if there weren’t any against the North! And the South proclaimed to be the rightful government after they clearly violated the Geneva agreement in 1956 of free election. Maybe that’s what you should look at! The American’s obsession with communism plunged a country into another war for 21 years!
@jeffyoung60
@jeffyoung60 Месяц назад
How much was an ARVN private paid per month in equivalent US dollars? The actual amount in South Vietnamese currency would be meaningless to me.
@raviolit9037
@raviolit9037 Месяц назад
The ARVN private by the mid 60s up to the early 70s could be expected to have a monthly payment of around 19 dollars a month. Very low in terms of military payment, and still very low even for south Vietnamese standards.
@jeffyoung60
@jeffyoung60 Месяц назад
@@raviolit9037 Thank you for the info. I suspected all along that the ARVN enlisted soldier was grossly underpaid. I seem to recall the U.S. enlisted soldier at the rank of E-1 earned something around $80 base pay per month between 1968-70. That was not counting the additional overseas and combat pay. That's another reason why the motivation and loyalty of the ARVN soldier would not be what you expected. Yet I heard and am not sure that the typical North Vietnamese private earned the equivalent of $24 US monthly. This is something the U.S. Government should have helped Saigon in giving a higher pay to its ARVN enlisted soldiers. Even a justifiable increase to $40 per month would have done wonders for ARVN morale and motivation.
@dinh-vanvo7600
@dinh-vanvo7600 13 дней назад
1:46, that looks more like a bag for the M9A1 or M17 gas mask.
@terrenceescarda8951
@terrenceescarda8951 Месяц назад
If Only The US Congress Did Not Cut The 1.1 Billion USD The ARVN Need, The RVN Might Still Around Today.
@MeetJohnnyNg
@MeetJohnnyNg Месяц назад
Communist were loosing every battle and much higher casualties until U.S congress abandoned South Vietnam. Fighter planes F5 and Sky raiders ran out of ammunition and fuel, ARVN on the front have enough M16 but short on ammo while the communist got many latest tank T-54 and longer artillery guns they could shoot longer range. ARVN were better at fighting the communist but they ran out of ammunition in April 1975.
@christopherwang4392
@christopherwang4392 Месяц назад
Best case scenario is South Vietnam survives the 1975 Spring Offensive, but remains vulnerable to further military incursions by North Vietnam in 1976 and beyond.
@AndrewTranBaseball
@AndrewTranBaseball Месяц назад
Haha, delusional at its finest!
@jessicaregina1956
@jessicaregina1956 Месяц назад
Not sure if serious. 😂
@bluedragontoybash2463
@bluedragontoybash2463 Месяц назад
you mean like what US did to Ukrainian or US did to Afghan Allies ??
@kevinbenedict1422
@kevinbenedict1422 2 месяца назад
The gun crew member has a gas mask bag on his back, not a buttpack.
@RMMilitaryHistory
@RMMilitaryHistory 2 месяца назад
Ahh of course! I spent way to much time trying to work it out 🙃
@rikijulius4014
@rikijulius4014 Месяц назад
It’s very good equipment better than VC… but one thing they don’t know to fight good and low morale
@kimtoannhan7275
@kimtoannhan7275 Месяц назад
As a Vietnamese i advice you to read the history of Vietnam once more time. I will give you some keywords: Paris, Peace, Accords, Watergate, Scandal, Henry, Kissinger .
@rikijulius4014
@rikijulius4014 Месяц назад
@@kimtoannhan7275 I did the really last defence ARVN in xuan loc still they lose…
@Thunderchild-gz4gc
@Thunderchild-gz4gc 15 дней назад
The VC were Hanoi created and controlled. They got Chinese and Soviet equipment like the PAVN
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