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Do you think there s any chance asean would follow the EU structure in the future? Would asean people like that? To have an asean parliament and commision, a free trade agreement and in general be more like a confederation?

@@RoScFan Single market we like it, single currency maybe, free movement of talents and labor depends on which country you ask.

@@gilangfaturrozy351 well free movements of labor and talents might be great on a macro scale but for individuals it meant even more competition than before

@@SuperJosteen or more opportunities! It's not just people coming to steal one's job, it's also one going elsewhere to find a better job. Of course, it depends of who one is and where one lives. Two sides of a coin!

@@SuperJosteen That's why it depends on which country you ask. If you ask countries with higher labor competitiveness then they'll say they like it to happen.

I doubt it would happened at all tbh.

Dunno fam. There's a significant unifying force in the north that's already inadvertently helping to bring it together.

Sigapore is the next china. Not for south east asian 😂

I still don't like these capitalism, still prefer Communism so yeah we won't have the same ideology.

Even with chinese help for unification, the religion issue is more than enough to not have a united ASEAN.

Still, a refusal to invite political representatives to a summit that's attended by heads of state of each country in ASEAN is a big deal nonetheless, I do hope this is a good sign of things to come for the regional organisation I live under.

Well ASEAN was technically involved... In talks On one hand they don't want to set an example of external interference on the other a coup in one is a bad example for all Then u have Thailand where a coup basically happens every 10 yrs but things still run and ppl just live their lives

excluding the junta leader is a big deal for a regional summit, that was a big step

*What's the big deal? Just kick Myanmar out of ASEAN. Problem solved.*

Who care? just out from Asean, dont barking & blaming other Aseans just bcs not help ur internal conflict. Myanmar ppl do it on every social media, on FB, Instagram etc LOL

love from indonesia

love y'all from Philippines

Love from indonesia

Proud ASEAN citizen

love from thailand

I really want to know what's have been happening especially in Central Asia

We need one for Africa as well, and I would also like to know more about the rest of America

And South America

It’ll happen eventually, it is the most populous continent

Yeah but then TLDR global will only be for Africa, Australasia and the Americas minus the US

What if European Union and ASEAN merged? Then it would become UU - "Union of Unions"

I would rather consider ASEAN compatible wtih South East Europe. It makes more sense.

We need all the help we can get to deal with china

My bid is Asean and Japan,Taiwan, Korea getting togather to stop china and combind resorcse to make up for sparse land.

@@GreenBlueWalkthrough sure, if japan and korea can loan those asean nations, almost all asean members take loans from china, even phillipines. also myanmar and thailand actually have close relations with china

@Zaydan Naufal so that the US can install a puppet government and take all there resources at a low price? doubt the people want that

Asean is also serving to provide peace and counter chinas aggressive nazi tactics

@@jakesmall8875 we all hate each others, we just hate china more

@@vivelarevolution2835 well you all don’t attack each other not since Japan in ww2 China is the new nazis

@@jakesmall8875 they are not on the same level, more of another USA

As a Filipino I agree. Cooperation is most important, but we musn't intervene in another sovereign nation. This will lead to ill-feelings among populations in other member countries. We must cooperate, but never interfere.

Interfering is just western things haha

@@harukasensei8212 or chinese thing?

@@fulan4263 both bro , both , the west and china suck , they constantly intervene.

This on point. The video is obviously coming from a westerner point of view since their countries had a habit of overstepping their boundaries.

Why Malaysia pulled out?

@@r_dcruz1394 There were some political issues, as it usually is with such treaties, although the specifics are a bit muddy

ah that sucks, thought malayan nations could get along :(

ASEAN should cooperate with superpower India against China

@@suerin8533 you mean India AND China?

"SE asia is incredibly diverse" Yeah and so is the EU. But I believe we will come together and overcome our differences someday. I hope we will have things like the EU (single currency, schengen area, single supreme court, etc)

More like extremely confusing for Americans Imagine a Union where Communists and Capitalists cooperate along with a mix religion of Islam, Christianity and Buddhism

it won't work simply because of what you have already stated, countries like Indonesia and Malaysia already have issues directly and indirectly caused by diversity right now, Malaysia have a very apartheid government and actual rules undermining their significant Indian and Chinese populations, they have less rights and privileges then the melayu or the bumiputeras. while in Indonesia although not to the point of being integrated into the law it's clear that all the high ranking government officials are all Javanese. The fact that Indonesia have countless separatist movement in its history is proof enough that you can't just force unity between many groups of people

> and imagine countries like hypercapitalist Singapore in a union with communist vietnam both of these statements are pretty false. Singapore has plenty of regulation and what many libertarian sorts would call a "nanny state" that forces you to save. Vietnam is communist in name only like China but I'd argue they're actually less communist than China

hahaha you wish, china already have close relationship with ASEAN , go check china-asean relationship history china only have problem with malaysia, vietnam and phillipines in the region

The closest thing to a democracy in ASEAN would be Malaysia or Indonesia and neither is particularly democratic.

@@charlesmadre5568 Or phillipines

@@kagenlim5271 If we took the Democracy Index then Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore and the Philippines would all be classified as "flawed democracies". The highest ranking country is Malaysia at 39th but it still faces some serious issues with its democracy, like the fact that while the opposition won an election, it has never successfully completed 1 term.

@@charlesmadre5568 Shit democracies count as democracies, in fact, good democracies are the damn exception

@Zaydan Naufal Well according to the Democracy Index East Timor is 44th, lower than Malaysia. This is largely due to the fact East Timor's governmental institutions are new and fragile.

Truth!

Basically : against China

Definitely. What if one or any of the countries were to break that non-intervention policy with goings on in Myanmar? Sure, it could help the people of Myanmar a lot in the short term, and it could be a one off thing and everybody forgets about it 10-20 years later. But what if the alternative happened? What would happen to the trust between ASEAN countries? Would the members of ASEAN be prepared for the unforeseen consequences?

@@serene-illusion Not get involved or mess up other "households and its own business" is one of our unwritten common policies. in our culture, if you do such thing, you do something wrong in every aspects in our viewpoints. It's feel like you get mad on a kid, go nagging around and want give the kid a lesson although the parent right there. It's not something proper and polite to do (for southeast asian viewpoint).

I don't think they'd even want a military cooperation against external forces. For example Vietnam and the Philippines have dispute with China but I doubt unaffected members like Thailand would want to get dragged into that.

I'm glad you understand ASEAN as much as I do. I don't think people from Western world can understand us sincerely

I was born, raised, and live in ASEAN and I didn't understand a single word you said

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@@brrrrrr learn English then

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true, but imho ASEAN is more of a consensus makin body. if you remember the communique bout the south china sea, it got watered down cos of few members with china pulling the sticks. singapore ended up on china's crosshairs briefly....

Easier said than done.

That's because each of the country of ASEAN have different ways of thinking, like we have Philipines who was pro US (i dont know if it's still pro US now), Cambodia and Laos were pro China and us Vietnam who want to balance out between US and China (pretty hard since those two are like cat and dog). With that in mind, ASEAN countries cant recklessly interfere others problem. You can see what Vietnam had to get through when we attacked Polpot, all the world turned their back to us.

True.

Haha jonathan you are

True but when your neighbor's house is burning (Myanmar) you don't want it to spread to your own house. You may ask why? What is happening to them can possibly happen to you. A military coup in a member country lends legitimacy to such an action. Yes, I'm looking at Thailand in this regard also. Now we have two member states who have done so. You don't think the incumbent governments in place for the rest are not worried? Of course they are. If they sit by, it is a sign of weakness. Not just from ASEAN. But from the every member state itself.

@@jinngeechia9715 The analogy of a burning neighbor's house is not applicable in a region that is culturally, linguistically & economically as diverse as ASEAN. Did Singapore interfere, poke their nose or aggresively criticize Malaysia in its 1MDB scandal? All that they did was prosecute the wrongdoings that happened in the country, within their border. Personally, i expect Singapore or their law department to at least deliver some warning or serious remark on the handling of 1MDB during Najib's tenure. Where did all the ASEAN countries stand during the Vietnamese war? Generally speaking, despite their retoric, the southeast asian countries (leaders) took action no further than their loud mouth. In fact, after the fall of Saigon, almost every major ASEAN nations paid a visit to, & officialize diplomatic relationship with Beijing, in the hope that Beijing can contain Vietnam. If it is in a Western region, sanction would already be on the table. For good or bad, this unique ASEAN characteristic will remain for at least the foreseable future.

@@iqbalmuhammad2920 Not poking their nose. They should take notice because it will bite them back if they are not careful. There are no friends in diplomacy. There never has been. Only similar interests and parallel policies. If the interests are threatened. Someone will move.

@@jinngeechia9715 Suspended membership is as far as it should go. And using the excuse of not having meet the requirement as the basis for the suspension on myanmmar

@@jinngeechia9715 exactly, there are no real friend in diplomacy, So don't make Unnecessary enemy by meddling their internal disputes

Not only that, but ASEAN sending in their armies would cause a catastrophic migrant crisis in the region. Malaysia already had it worse with the rohingya, vietnamese, kachin issues.

@@raymondo_ You seem pretty sure that interventionism has always generated a net positive than a net negative. Just go see what Middle East interventionism has delivered.

Easy pickings for US and China? Lol, we already are. Laos and Myanmar are firmly in China’s pockets, and since every decision requires unilateral approval, this effective allows them to stonewall every proposal that is against China’s interests.

On one hand I get that intervention could lead to problems, but not intervening in cases like Myanmar has lead to more migration and more war in Myanmar that is spilling over to other countries.

Yeah. Interference is a western thing. I'm glad our foreign affairs secretary here in the Philippines fought to stick to the rule of ASEAN to not interfere other countries.

After taking a course convinently titled "ASEAN" in university, I can't even count how many times Acharya's name was mentioned in that class.

Thank you, I'm doing a dissertation on ASEAN for my masters in law soon

@@damianwjm if you want, I can provide a list of recommended reading on ASEAN.

@@jsb1585 I would appreciate it that a lot 😊

@@abdullahsaur Just a note, this list is not exhaustive. Definitely read Acharya and Caballero- Anthony, they are the most important authors on this subject, but all of the authors listed here provide valuable perspectives. Collins and Khoo, for instance, are rather critical of ASEAN and its credibility as a regional organisation. I would also recommend that you go to the ASEAN website itself. They have published many transcripts from their summits, conferences and press release, available for download in PDF format. I have provided the titles of a few of these documents, so you should be able to find them relatively quickly. I hope this is all helpful. Acharya, A. (1997) ‘Ideas, identity, and institution‐building: From the “ASEAN way” to the ‘Asia‐Pacific way'?, Acharya, 2001. Constructing a Security Community in Southeast Asia: ASEAN and the Problem of Regional Order. Acharya, A. (2004) ‘How Ideas Spread: Whose Norms Matter? Norm Localization and Institutional Change in Asian Regionalism’ Constructing a Security Community in Southeast Asia: ASEAN and the Problem of Regional Order. Barber, R and Teitt, S. (2020). ‘The Rohingya Crisis: Can ASEAN Salvage Its Credibility?’ Caballero-Anthony, M. (2004). ‘Non-state regional governance mechanism for economic security: the case of the ASEAN Peoples' Assembly’. Caballero-Anthony, M. (2015). ‘Community security: human security at 21’ Collins, A. (2007). ‘Forming a security community: lessons from ASEAN’. Haacke, J. (2003). ‘ASEAN's diplomatic and security culture: a constructivist assessment’. Khoo, N. (2004). ‘Deconstructing the ASEAN security community: a review essay’. Tobing, D. H. (2018). ‘The Limits and Possibilities of the ASEAN Way: The Case of Rohingya as a Humanitarian Issue in Southeast Asia’ ASEAN, 1976. Treaty of Amity and Cooperation in Southeast Asia ASEAN Chairman, 2017. ASEAN CHAIRMAN’S STATEMENT ON THE HUMANITARIAN SITUATION IN RAKHINE STATE ASEAN Chairman, 2018. CHAIRMAN’S STATEMENT OF THE 32ND ASEAN SUMMIT ASEAN Chairman, 2020. Press Statement by the Chairman of the ASEAN Foreign Ministers’ Retreat ASCC Secretariat, 2016. ASEAN SOCIO-CULTURAL COMMUNITY BLUEPRINT 2025

"ASEAN on the other hand, understands that internal matters are far more complicated and that intervention brings about more negatives than positives." True, we learned that the hard way...

ASEAN's non interference is, I would say, because Southeast Asia us heavily balkanized, and also because a lot of us were formerly colonized, and also ALL of us have blood on our hands. I don't think ASEAN wants to be like EU. It's basically just a meeting places among Southeast Asian countries. It's a place to talk. I would say it's more like the UN, but far more deliberate-consensus oriented. EU is actually wanting to be a Federal state. In fact, the original conception was the United States of Europe.

Indeed.. as we make it more like EU it will lot of disaster rather than prosperity.. Each county have their own sovereign that cannot be invade by other country.. we have diff culture, language and etc. But we do not deny the fact that we have a bit of similarity that make us connected with each other.. i hope in future Asean will flourish and we can develop a good relationship among us.. greeting from Malaysia👍👍

@@AquilaPainWhy all those hard years had been thought us how to adapt

@Zaydan Naufal Like the US actually.

Never heard of that. If there is a will and someone talented, things like that can work. Invade to improve the country.

Didn't even know about this. Source?

Well... but you should consider that Gambia is a small country surrounded completely by senegal. In fact the 2017 invasion took a bit more than a month to conclude. Don't think the same would work for a relatively large country like Burma

I don't mean to negate their efforts but, there are still active conflicts on the continent tho

Well gambia is a small country in general, and especially when compared to africa, myanmar is a lot bigger when cokpared to asean and just in general

you know, in a short time, another country gets the Presidency in the EU, maybe the Netherlands, maybe the EU want some places back who been owned by the Dutch 100 years ago??? 27 sovereign nations, with an free elected Parliament and dont let me get started with the benefits for me personal.... i am happy to live inside the EU, and i know a lot of Brits who want to be back in.... we had so many conflicts in the past, from 1945 to 1992 have been peace in Europe, up to the moment the Balkan war started, Yugoslavia not being a member in the EU, but bordering Austria and Italy.

@@Arltratlo Good on you Europeans if the EU works well for you but as you've seen in this video ASEAN was never meant to be an EU-style entity for Southeast Asian nations. The principle of non-interventionism is a core tenet of the "ASEAN Way" of regionalism and this has worked for us for more than 50 years and there is no strong desire from the member-states or the citizens of ASEAN to transform into an EU-style confederation.

A more integrated ASEAN is needed if its member states want to effectively counter China’s influence

well... it's making us look bad... like we don't care for shits bout these things...

@@PrograError sooo what. are we going to risk our own security/economic Over Myanmar to look good? Indonesia comit genocide too. Malay Tooo, Cambodia did tooo. many of us are a bunch of criminals who will step each other whenever possible.

It's a very tricky situation. While most ASEAN member states and their citizens sympathize with Myanmar, open and direct intervention in their internal affairs may set a precedent. Should ASEAN member states from then on be free to interfere with each others politics? Should Indonesia and Cambodia have extra scrutiny by member states for ethnic tensions for the former and past genocide for the latter? Should Singapore and Malaysia be forced to abandon certain authoritarian laws that have kept themselves relatively stable? Hell, there's no guarantee somewhere down the line member states will use armed intervention on each other with the excuse of 'bringing order, justice and stability'. This will put the smaller ASEAN members at great risk I do wish they'd do something about Myanmar. At the rate it is now, Myanmar will be set back decades in terms of progress, and ASEAN will suffer as a whole. However, I understand the reason why some ASEAN members are hesitant.

@@str2010 I personally think that intervention now will create quite the precedent and a tricky one at that. One that might cause a huge trouble down the line. If anything happens then it's probably best not as a fellow ASEAN member but just, you know, another country.

It's a big reason why ASEAN still exist

Are there any UK contacts for Mymar civilian resistance?

@@colincampbell4261 Sorry, I don't know that.

There will be not much of support as well financially. because we are not rich.

Mothers and fathers have to speak with any sons or daughters they have in the army or police - tell them not to open fire on their own people.

God save the Myanmar people. Can't believe this still happens in this century. There are a lot of Myanmar in Thailand. I wish our government do something more or at least bring the 2 sides for negotiation like in the west. I wish the ASEAN step up for this. It's such a useless organization if the club can't even bring stability to the region.

Yep looking back at Cambodia and Khmer Rouge, you are absolutely right

Think again, how can you separate economic out of politics? Politic is the biggest business just like a daddy is a leader of a family.

It's like giving them space to figure things out

Aren't we refuse the representative from Myanmar and demand non-politic representative instead

@@MasonGreenWeed lol, and there is no dislike button.

EU seems more like an organized household to me, whereas ASEAN is more like a group of uncles sitting in a roadside stall at night drinking coffee and smoking, while talking about seemingly serious stuff when none of it actually gets realized at the end...

lol

I am more offended by the fact that is more accurate than I thought.

Therefore, its more fun in ASEAN 🍻🍻🍻

how Australia's threat from South?

@@gazz01 Emus, Kangaroos and Koalas are weapons of mass destructions held by Australia

@@gazz01 just look up how australia stole timor leste oil.

@@absentmindedshirokuma8539 I know that Australia did it bad

@@reymichaelsungazornosa4040 yup

2-3 decades ago, you mean?

@@rapemap Not what I meant. 3 decades ago (1980s-1990s), the situation pretty much settled down with the end of the Vietnam War. Myanmar was unstable back then, but things started to go up for Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos. Other countries were developing pretty fast. What I emphasized was in the 18th, 19th century, there were wars everywhere in the region, wars among Southeast Asian countries with constantly shifting borders, as well as wars against European/American colonialism.

because USA backed cambodia and you know ASEAN is just another US bitch organization which is gradually getting more free

@@SuperSanic.. lmao what

Whatever they decided to do its unlikely they will do it brazenly like in EU. Since non interference is one of the principle of ASEAN. They will of course try to find solution which will involve the junta and democratic opposition. Non of the ASEAN countries consider what happening toward Rohingya as 'genocide'.

@@SuperSanic.. LMAO, the khmer rouge? Backed by the US? After castigating Noam Chomsky and slagging him off by a misquote by the media and saying that the genocide was overblown? That US?

@@kickassssnation027 since when Noam Chomsky is representative of the US government. Also, the US indirectly support Khmer Rouge by allowing Chinese supplies to be delivered to Khmer Rough through Thailand. The Us could have stopped these aids but decided not to due to friendly US-CHina relation before 1989.

The Rohingya will thank you for saying shit like this.

But that sort of policy just lets people commit genocide which is an unstable thing. Rational and stable minded people don't kill an entire people. So selfishly the best thing for asean to do is intervene

You're the kind of person to ignore a growing threat because you think they won't hurt you. You're a damned collaborationist. When china comes for us all, let's see who you pick. I'm sure they'll bring their own version of regional stability.

@@Monarch_Prime how is Myanmar committing genocide in its own borders an active threat to Malaysia's sovereignty? If they started to invade Thailand then yes, it would pose an indirect threat and I would support sending military assistance to Thailand. But what they're doing inside of their borders doesn't really threaten us, except for the pesky refugee problem where illegals just stay here and the UN had us take in 150,000 Rohingyas. We didn't cause their suffering nor do we have to take responsibility over it.

@@mattkerr3508 as the video said, the main reason ASEAN has worked is because of the non-interventionist policy. A country can do anything it wants as long as it doesn't affect other countries. The suffering of a minority group in another nation isn't my problem, and I'm sure as hell not gonna support sending fellow countrymen to die in a foreign land for a foreign people who we owe absolutely nothing to.

I don't think it's really working.. actually the universities have a very visible standardization disparity.. we can see it from the rankings of universities around the world..

@@landreform7612 That is true. Even in my university system we still need to catch up to even just match the bare essentials of the AUN-QA standards, let alone surpass it. Naturally SG, MY, IN, and TH all lead in the AUN rankings.

Wow it's interesting to know that ASEAN is taken more seriously in Singaporean curriculum, over here you'd just be required to know the basics and that our country is one of the founding members etc.

Yeah, cool idea

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True cause america doesnt make trouble here... and not many oil here

@@nanikore6860 wait until you hear about oil production in brunei. But again, you agreed on implementing sharia law like stoning gay to death in brunei as 'peace and stability', so I don't think you know anything about what oil production is even means.

@@TheSiprianus brunei have oil not as much as midle east has

@@nanikore6860 compared to their population? nope, they have similar amount of oil reserves. if 10 people population with 10 barrel oil 'deserve' for the US to make trouble on, is 1 person population with 1 barrel oil also 'deserve' for the US to make trouble on? especially when they only need a tenth of manpower and finance to 'make trouble on'? use basic math.

@@nanikore6860 Here is another trivia question for you; how much oil was extracted by/ because of those US invasion? provide reputable and crosscheck source, no need to be exact, estimation is enough.

That's a better term than what we have now "ASEAN Citizens" (Freaking 6 syllables). I like it.

Bamboo housing in Asia is a mistake if you want to make money. Most Asians are whitewashed prefer the western style for status.

@@jparsit Then why not just make Western styled bamboo houses? I mean at this point merging culture with crafts work is something common in SEA

Congrats Troy, We look forward to seeing many of your designs grace many ASEAN cities and communities ! Onwards and upwards!

@@takebacktheholyland9306 because western style was never meant for the weather, climate and natural disasters of SEA.

@@takebacktheholyland9306 thats why majority traditional houses are elevated and was designed with maximum airflow

But it is still held by some members

Wow, so the Indonesians and the Malaysians almost became Filipinos.

@@wavemaker2077 Stop it, you make me cringe.

@@uncommon_name9337 I know. I just want to troll and see how many reacts. lol.

I'm already suffering from a dissease called being a filipino, I don't want to to become a filipino again! noooo xD

People can die from laughing to this idea. No doubt that all of these regions are part of 'Nusantara', which I think has a common culture and is different to IndoChina. However, Indonesia can't even govern its various islands properly, so does the Philippines. Malaysia is also having a lot of difficulty to govern just one breakaway land of East Malaysia. First, the governance needs to improve, then only can talk about becoming a single country. Otherwise its better for each island, state within big islands to become its own country, if it improves governance.

Although we can't use that advantage nowadays thanks to COVID.. I haven't used my passport in the last 2 years at all.. Because, COVID.. 😠😠

EU is way better. We are all democracies and created an union of peace of cooperation. ASEAN was founded only on trade by dictatorships interested only on maintaining their power

ASEAN's projected economic growth for 2023 is 6.6% while EU's projected economic growth for 2023 will slide down to a low 2.8%. ASEAN is projected to be the 4th largest economy in the world by 2050.

You know nothing about how the EU works, but you think you do. It's always the same with you people

@TheWeeaboo nah the US didn't guarantee anyone in asean, they not directly at it. Also asean country are highly try to stay neutral to any power here since a change of balance will bring instability and probably war. That why biden way of thinking that asean in his back is bad for us, while i agree china need to stop it ways of claiming territory but doesnt mean asean will tend more to US or tend more to china.

India is the future of Asia. Without India, Asia will become a colony of Western countries. Just like World War II, you will be controlled by the West. But now that India is strong, no Western country dares to bully Asia.

​@@suerin8533 Your username and comment are hilarious. The West don't need to colonize Asia like they did in the past, their companies do the colonizing themselves and most Asian powers (such as India) have good relations the West. China is the real force pushing back against the West and the one they fear (I live in the West and nobody here is intimidated or really cares much about what India does, but most are worried about China), India is passive and is not strong enough to fight the West in any battle anyway. I don't know where you get these Indian supremacist ideas from.

@TheWeeaboo India is now the world’s superpower second only to the United States. You should learn to respect India, the only superpower in Asia.

@@user-pj6ch6cc4d According to Western media predictions, China will collapse within 5 years, and the poor Chinese are still bragging about their country

I admit that the average citizen in ASEAN doesn't know much about countries that are not immediate neighbors, but the situation was much worse a couple of decades ago. Educated elites and those with international travel experience know a lot more now, which bodes well for future mutual understanding.

I'll answer as an Indonesian Individual. I see Singapore as the rich city nation where Indonesian buy luxury goods, Malaysia as devided nation between bumiputra vs chinese and indian descent citizen that some of the later cant even speak malay as the national language, Brunei as rich islamic absolute monarchy country, Thailand where Indonesian travel to see their cultural building and strange shows, buy cheap goods and try strange meals like bugs, Philipines the latinos of the asean Vietnam is the only sinosphere country in asean thats commie along with cambodia and laos that i dont really know about. I don't really know anything about Myanmar except for the junta and rohingya issue.

i think we can tell that the Asean people are divided in two groups, generally speaking: The Indochina Asean that consist Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand and Myanmar, they all are closer together geographically and demographically, that makes them know each other more than to the rest. The other group is archipelago Asean which is Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Brunei that have similarities in culture, language and religion (except for the Philippines) as an Indonesian, i can tell most of people here are familiar the most to Malaysia as we also consider them cousins and then Singapore as developed tiny city state, Brunei as wealthy fellow muslims. Thailand as holiday destination, and Vietnam as emerging economies that could rival us, and the rest countries are not much known here

as a common Indonesian, Singapore is where our billionaires live and the corruptors safe place, Malaysia somehow managed to claim our culture/heritage 😂, Thailand is that good football team country, Philliphines is kinda similar to our country but different, we are jealous of Vietnam because they have an export oriented economy and they are actually industrializing (unlike our country who mainly export commodities), we dislike Myanmar because of the Rohingya genocide (~80% of our people are Muslims), Brunei cool looking king, and nobody really talks about Laos or Cambodia tbh

@@Herbayse how Islamic is indonesia? For example is pakistan 6 8 year old minority children are getting death penaltys for alleged blasphemy

The thing is, Myanmar _is_ a member of ASEAN, so the situations aren't comparable.

nah. ASEAN most of its members are bunch of criminal equal to Junta. and suspiciouns runs high of each other. it is necessary to kept non interference policy. country like LAOS and CAmbodia and Vietnam kind of dont care about democracy or capitalism or communism at all.

Each member must resolve internal problems on their own without pressure from the other party....... Obviously very different

Pfft. Its far from your story

as someone who doesnt care , its pronounced as junta.

Your comment is the best of the pack. Very well said, I agreed ASEAN should get stronger, but it is difficult because members are corrupt and chaotic. Only SP is a leader in terms of educated governance and people, but the least natural resource. I am writing a book about ASIA UNION and it is not like the E.U. as you said.

Maybe that key part of ASEAN became their Own battle arena from major Power. But for china fortunately most problem because SEA borders i don't know about other neighbors beyond Chinese land borders India & Chinese have hostility towards each other As Indonesian most politicians just play along with Chinese government

@@ridwan3533 thats because Indo have no problem with china regarding borders even then when some chinese vassal ships entered our water we faced them and asked them to leave. so i dont understand what you mean by "play along" unless you want indo to fight china which is ludicrous to say. also most people have short memory, malaysia is/was the country we have trouble the most as they often entered our water even removed our land border in the borneo/kalimantan.

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I agree. Southeast Asia is one of the most diverse regions in the world (only rivaled by the Indian Subcontinent). It would be dumb to unionize and federalize like what the EU is doing. Plus different forms of government are present in each of our country. Its what makes Southeast Asia so beautiful, a rich and diverse culture. We should stick to what we southeast asians do best. *Trade*

@@ashadow4313 Yeah. I love being ASEAN coz we're not greed of power and we just want peace and harmony. That's why there's no conflict in our region despite the different religions and governement systems. We in Southeast Asia are family-oriented people that's why we're never gonna go like EU in the future.

@@JohnMarkYo Well Said

All our ancestors love to trade with each other until today! XD

No harmony in SEA either

the most drastic measure probably sanction and suspension. doesn't sound much, but it is drastic measure for asean standard.

it's quite surprising how the global community ignored such a massive atrocity happening right in front of their eyes, but then again the same did happen on Palestine, Afghanistan, various places in China most notably Hong Kong and Xin Jiang etc etc etc

they wont because it was a domestic problem, thailand actually have been in drastic government change from democratic to military junta back to democratic and back again to military junta, it happens too often and no one in asean talk about it, myanmar also being in military junta before, so no

This year's ASEAN leadership is chaired by Cambodia, which is unabashedly supportive of the Burmese junta, so don't expect much.

That's unlikely. Thailand is ruled by junta too and Malay members in particular, if intervention is on the table, to do something about remaining communist countries in ASEAN.

Nothing is happening...Its a fail fail propaganda 😂

Yup, so amusing looking at these westerners thought they had figured out everything. 😂

Welp Myanmar is fucked up now

@@jasonslatt2470 yea so sad

@@shammy7042 I'm from myanmar and things are not good in here

@@jasonslatt2470 stay strong bro🙏🏽

@@shammy7042 Thank you i needed that

I don't see that happening. You need a certain degree of political understanding for that. I don't want a common ASEAN monetary policy to have any input from the current governments of Myanmar, Cambodia or Brunei. Also different countries in ASEAN have very different interests when it comes to monetary policy. Vietnam and Indonesia want a weaker currency to maximise exports while Brunei wants a stronger currency to boost the value of its oil. Cambodia ditched its own currency entirely in favour of the US dollar. To get these countries to agree would be impossible.

The name was hilarious, but I'm all for it, I like it HAHHAHAHAHAHAH

That will never happen. But seabucks was dope lol.

Can't see this happening but honestly that would be cool

I would like that to happen...spending my Seabucks at Starbucks