@@jacobgallant1441yea they been a real thing before just like swords hiding in canes too and that facts I'm still shocked that happened and I thought he was going to shoot novelist many of those who main him would've been depressed probably idk I hear some who did main novelist doesn't like his nerf or buff which they are options
I know Nightmare is making Norton be a hunter- but damn- Is that the breakfast he chose? A dry loaf of bread and a large jug of milk? Like bro what's with the struggle meal? Ask for a sandwich atleast-
Totally unrelated but I may have a theory as to why Norton was eating that bread and milk so quickly. Considering his job as a miner, there's a chance he may have COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease), which can cause weight loss and lack of appetite. This could explain why he's so slim. But then there's the question as to why he chose milk and bread when he could've chosen a more expensive meal. A simple meal like that was probably the first thing he thought of and is probably the only thing he's used to (because he's poor), and since he was often bullied, abused, and tormented while in the mines, he was probably eating so quickly because he thought someone may try to steal the food from him. Bread and milk could be a five-star meal for him. Another theory is that he may have been too scared to ask for something more fancy (After seeing what Alice was going to eat). This could be another reference to his poverty, since maybe in mines he had to be grateful for what little he had. I'm probably thinking about this too hard but this theory has been stuck in my head :)
He has black lung (when you inhale too much coal dust) so that’s most likely why he opts for the lighter meals ALSO bc it’s something familiar to him (as you said)
GUYS I FORGOR💀💀 TO ADD PART WHERE YOU STAY SILENT WHILE LYING ON A BED. But nothing changes there, except the fact that Orpheus instead of Alice speaks the same first two phrases
I'm here to know what other routes looks like since I manage to choose right path from the start The second floor, living room and take the box and hide, so all of them still end up with the same situation.
If you look at 48:08 you could see that in one of alices memories she got turn into an experiment maybe thats the reason why she doesnt remember orpheus
I think Alice lived at the manor before Orpheus lived there. She was a little girl in her flashbacks, 4-6, while Orpheus looked like he could be anywhere between 9-11. So I would assume after her family left, his family purchased the manor.
If I remember correctly, we had been given to understand that Alice and Orpehus lived together, since Orpheus's family died and Alice's parents adopted him as their son. What's more, in Ashes of Memory 1 Alice has a flashback of her and Orpheus when they were children, now what I think is that Alice does remember that she lived with someone else when she was a child but she doesn't remember that it was Orpheus himself
@@claytondavidson6308But in part 1 of AoM, she stated they were playmates? Along with a cutscene of them as children in the dining room. Even if she doesn't see him as before, the statement of them not living together is outright just wrong.
Damn, the way that alice found the underground place before Orpheus from future is crazy, guess they just re use it. 1. Don't you think little Orpheus and alice was in the same place back then? They showed us the similiar place and they both had a same background nun as cameo. 2. Alice found horse head bones 3. When little alice heard someone call her, when you press the different name it showed us different silhouette first option : Little kid (young Orpheus i think? The kid seems wear a hat), second : tall man (idk who maybe another ppl), third : woman (herself?) 4. Idk abt this one, maybe a bug. But when the gate is open we can see clearly Orpheus was leaving fist before alice said " where's mr. Orpheus? " 5. Melly said she was in the greenhouse everyday but she wasn't there when we visit. 6. What happened to fredrick? I think he leave and shoot as a sign they can turn back (idk) 7. The way alice start questioning Orpheus 'role' lmaooo
@@hahahaha6360 It's all good, it can be quite confusing. Basically, present older Orpheus misremembered A LOT during the events of the manor back when he was younger due to the drugs screwing up his brain. Alice's events are the "Correct" story of what happened in the past and it is heavily implied that Orpheus is the cause of the games and is the current owner of the manor though not himself but rather... Nightmare, his other persona if you look at his palm when he's with Fredrick you can see the scar on it and this also goes into a bigger thing... Orpheus is not the original personality, Nightmare is...
@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 YOU'RE RIGHT, I THOUGHT I WAS SEE WRONG ABOUT HIS HAND!! Also, i think his other personality show when Alice chased by Mary, i mean, he smirked (?)
@@hahahaha6360 He did! But there's hints that Nightmare has been in control this whole time, he's just "Pretending" to be normal. His story about the cellar was him knowing that Alice would be curious, so he could experiment on her and test out Norton on her.
@@NotCooLouisHe worked in mines with poor conditions and where he was mistreated. I'm sure that when you are trying to make a living and survive, manners are the last thing you think about
@@crys3465Honestly, I know a lot of hardworking people like him, but it didn't let them forget about manners and respect for people. On the contrary, they are even more polite than me. if I see that a person is not well-mannered, I say this without thinking about his story. Why, if that's the way it is
nope!! he broke a rule and he had a weapon w him, the others also broke the rule but they weren't threatening each other and had no weapon. it's also probably safe to assume that he didn't truly come for the game, just the gem. so he tried to leave the manor property and got punished for it. i also don't think they have the same strict rules as the other games bc the servants mentioned the manor owner changing the rules for the day due to Kreiburg leaving and Alice being sick
@@strayninja I believe Orpheus *"Nightmare"* killed him cause he had the gem, which Frederick had on him last and he was starting to get a bit too agitated.
Well we all play in Alice’s view, as far as I am concerned she isn’t standing onside with Frederick…so yeah…it’s kinda hard to build a friendship with Frederick. Gl
Will there be part three of the main story? Coz I just finished it where we see Norton eating bread and I haven't be able to okay the main story since.
i feel stupid for asking, but does anyone know who each of the silhouettes are at 26:05? I didn’t know who the second option was so I just chose my username without thinking. I was curious to see what the other outcomes were and was surprised to see that they were all different. The first two were male silhouettes, and I got the only woman one. Is that was Melly, Orpheus and Fredrick? Or are they other people?
So, does Norton have a nose piercing, or is that meant to be something else? Like, I know he has it in his doll form, but, that's a doll. This is his human form.
First off Norton feels like he hasn't eaten in months which can be understandable i mean he was in a mining and got stuck if im not mistaken and well he has been turned into a hunter now so like he eaten that food no matter what and i still find it scary that survivors are in the presence with the hunters i mean again detective were both survivors and hunters now its turning into the survivors being a hunter and a hunter becoming a survivor 😂😂😂😂 What's crazy about this is that the more the story goes on it's seriously bringing back the time when we first played the game and we was trapped in that manor and we couldn't get out and we was like what's the rest of the story aaahhh we must know more 😂😂😂😂 but no really this is seriously getting souch better with the story and the fact we got to see Mary the actual bq that folks play and a little bit more of fools gold I'm like thinking about what will be the next person we will see as a hunter or a survivor Ngl tho the people who has stopped playing this they are really missing out on this I'm sure we had friends who been gone forever from the game
Excuse me sorry but did I just here it correctly? Did he say Mary as in Bloody Queen Mary? Cause I checked IdentityV Wiki it said Mary Kreiburg so is she that lady?
So basically what happened is that Mary was a noblewomen who married a nobleman from Italy named manus de Capet, she moved in with him at the manor and after the wedding she became depressed because of her lack of social venues. After manus noticed he gifted her and hoarse(cyanus), a blue jem necklace, and a racecourse as a symbol of love. But then people started accusing Mary of having an affair with the jockey that rode cyanus when really they were just really close friends, which made her more depressed and she ended up k!//!ng herself on the racecourse. The reason why Mary was first seen as Marie Antoinette is because due to the similarities between Marie and Mary’s backstory Alice hallucinated bq as Marie Antoinette, but as for the Mary seen in AOM at the racecoarse, it was likely that due to the drugs given to Alice she hallucinated Fredrick as bloody queen. But it is also likely that Fredrick isn’t Mary and that Mary killed him on his way out of the racecoarse, or maybe the servants captured and punished him because he broke the rules.