Ashura 10 Muharram ka roza par Shia k Aitraz ka jawab, Ali Raza Rizvi, Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza 

This is the way to argue and debate; with respect and with good intentions. I am Shia and admire all the genuine ulema of all sects. May Allah have mercy on us all. We are brothers who have genuine difference of opinions on many important issues. Yet we still have even more in common.

NABI pak s.a.w.w or ahly baiet a.s py lakhon darood o salaam.......💚🌟🌹❣

I m Shia Allhuduillah. I agree n Biggest Follower Since last 4 years 👍👍

Ahle Bait ke dushmano pe lanat ho aur ahle bait ke naam pe jhoot bolne walo pe bhi lanat ho.

Hazrat Imam Ali a.s haq hai or imam hussain a.s ka gham hmesha manaya jaiga ye khuda ka wada hai .or 10 mahorram ko mere mazloom imam ki shahadat hai ya hussain a.s ..man kunto maula wa fahaza ali un maula ..

10 Muharram ka pak din dino ka sardar din mere Mola Hussain (A.S) ki Shahadat ka din hai aur Azadaari o gham ka din hai Islam ki rehti duniya tak baqa ka din hai roze ka din nahi hai.

بےشک عاشورہ کا روزہ حدیث سے ثابت ہے۔ اور میری اللہ سے دعا ہے کہ مجھے ہمت اور توفیق دے کہ میں بھی عاشورہ کا مقدس روزہ رکھوں اور اپنے گناہ بخشواؤں

Alhamdullilah ❤️.... 4 din sy is mozu pr bhs chl rhi thi... Aj concluded ho gya...

Ahly bait a.s k dushmanu p lanatttttttt beshumaaaarrr

علی بھائی سب پر آلو فٹ کرتے ہیں دنیا میں واحد علی بھائی ہے جنکی بات سب بلکل واضح سمجھ آتی ہیں

You are right Ali bhai Allah aapko salaamt rakhe love you so much Ali bhai

Ali Bhai is great

mashAllah tabarak Allah AP Allah ki Shadid panah may rahain Ameen inshAllah dill kush ho gya AP k ilmi Jawab sun k

MashAllah Allah pak ap ko apny hifz o eman mai rakhy

Mola Hussain a.s ka ghum sb sy azeem hai jinhay 3 roz bhooka pyasa rakh k zebha kya gya phir un k laashy ko pamaal kya gya phir un k sar e Mubarak ko naizy p rakh k un k ahl e bait ko bi parda pheraya gya😭😭😭😭Mairy Bhai Mola Hussain ka gham sb sy zada azeem hai...aur Mola Ali sy Mola Hussain k gham ko compare krna drust nhe hai

Is se achi explanation nhe ho sakti mashallah Allah apko jaza-e- khair de ameen.

Alhamdulillahl great keep it up moulana .Allah give you more strength and long life

Understand Islam آپ کی کاوشوں سے حق واضح ہو رہا ہے۔

Alhamdulillah k engineer sahab jese alim is dor main hain warna mian to in firqo ke molvio ko sun ke pagal ho jata kisi ka jawab tasali bhakhsh nahi hota beshak hr mushkil ke sat asani hain 😊

پس بحث سے معلوم ھوا کہ اس حدیث پر۔۔۔۔شیعہ سنی متفق نہی ھو سکتے ۔۔۔۔یعنی لگے رھو

Good engenearing Ali bhai.

روزہ جب بھی رکھوں کوی فرق نہیں پڑتا ۔۔

MASHA ALLAH ALI BHAI aap ki research bohat khoob hai, laikin 10th MUHARRAM k rozey روزہ k barey kissi yazeedi lanati ki taraf se bhee ye aiteraz na kiya gya k ay HUSSAIN A.S tummei'n to ROZA rakhna chahiye thha, aur ALI BHAI aap ki nazar mein NABI A.S k nawasa IMAM HUSSAIN A.S deen ziyada jantey thhey ya wo jin k aap reference's de rahey hain.

shia hazraat nay roza nahi rakhna tu na rakhu aur sunni hazrat nay rakhna hay tu rakhu bhai behas ki kia bat.

amaaaazing..logical answer.. maa shaaAllaah may Allaah bless you for this briefing..Jizzakallaah

Jazakallah khair brother.great.. Lots of love...from india❤❤❤

اللهم صل علی محمد و آل محمد و عجل لو لیک فرج ❤❤❤

Shukar he ap ne sahi Muslim se muaviya ke karname toh bhaye

Allah halak kare hazrat hasan Hussain, rz.ke qatilon nesto nabood karey

A, عن أبي الحسن عليه السلام أنه قال: {{صام رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم يوم عاشوراء}} [تهذيب الأحكام (4/29) الاستبصار (2/134)، الوافي (7/13)، وسائل الشيعة (7/337)، جامع أحاديث الشيعة (9/475)، الحدائق الناضرة (13/370-371)، صيام عاشوراء (ص 112)]. On behalf of Abu Al-Hassan (as) that he said : “Rasool Allah (saw) fasted on the day of Ashoura.” Shia sources: 1- Tahdeeb Al-Ahkam 4/29, 2- Alistibsar 2/134, 3- Wasael Al-Shia 7/337, 4- Jaame3 Ahadeeth Al-Shia 9/475, 5- Alhadaeq Alnadhera 13/370-371, 6- Seyam Ashoura 112 B. عن جعفر عن أبيه عليهما السلام أنه قال: [[صيام يوم عاشوراء كفارة سنة]] [ تهذيب الأحكام (4/300)، الاستبصار (2/134)، جامع أحاديث الشيعة (9/475)، الحدائق الناضرة (13/371)، صيام عاشوراء (ص 112)، الوافي (7/13)، وسائل الشيعة (7/337)]. Narrated from Jaffar from his father (as), that he said: “Fasting of Ashoura is forgiveness of one year sin.” Shia sources: 1- Tahdeeb Al-Ahkam 4/300, Alistibsar 2/134, 2- Jaame3 Ahadeeth Al-Shia 9/475, 3- Alhadaeq Alnadhera 13/371, 4- Jamal luddin mentioned it in ‘Fasting of Ashoora page 112, 5- Al-Kashani 7/13 6- Hur in Wasael Al-Shia 7/337 C. وعن الصادق رحمه الله قال: [[من أمكنه صوم المحرم فإنه يعصم صاحبه من كل سيئة]] [وسائل الشيعة (7/347)، الحدائق الناضرة (13/377)، جامع أحاديث الشيعة (9/474)]. And on behalf of Al-Sadiq that he said: “Whoever is able to fast (month of) Muharram, then his fasting shall protect him from every sin.” Shia sources: 1- Wasael Al-shia 7/347, 2- Alhadaeeq Alnadhera 13/377, 3- Jaame3 Ahadeeth Al-shia 9/474. D. عن علي عليه السلام قال: {{صوموا يوم عاشوراء التاسع والعاشر احتياطاً، فإنه كفارة السنة التي قبله، وإن لم يعلم به أحدكم حتى يأكل فليتم صومه}} [مستدرك الوسائل (1/594)، جامع أحاديث الشيعة (9/475)]. And Ali (as) said: “Fast on the day of Ashoora 9th and 10th for substitution, for it is an expiation for the the past year, and if someone of you eats (by mistake) should continue his fasting.” Shia sources: 1- Al-Haj Hussein Al-Nuri Tabarsi in Mustadrak Al-Wasael 1/594, 2- Haj Brujardi in Jaame3 Ahadeeths Al-Shia 9/475.

Allah khush rakhy aap ko or jo esi videos bna ny ma madad krr rhy hai itny doubt clear hue na ❤❤❤

Zabardast mirza sahib barhtreen phakki... Aaj allama jawwad naqvi sb ki video dekh ke me bhi soch me parr gaya tha ke 9 aur 10 roza kitni buri cheez hai

Masha Allah Ali bhai Allah apke hafze Ko kaim rakhe Ammen

عاشور کے دن شروع سے ہی اسلام کو زندہ کیا گیا۔۔۔۔اب امام کی قربانی کا دن ہے تو انکو ظلم کے ساتھ شہید کیا گیا تو اس حوالے سے تو روزہ نہیں رکھنا چاہیے۔۔۔

Bohot bhi bohot khub bayaan waah.. ....subhanallah .....jazakallah......khair 🍁

Kya baat hai apki Ali bhai..ALLAH salamat rakhay apko..jazak ALLAH

This post is not intended to offend or insult anyone’s religious beliefs or practices. It’s simply a response to those who have asked for clarification. Why don’t Shi’a Muslims fast on Ashura? By all standards, the day Imam Hussain, the grandson of the beloved Prophet Muhammad, was killed was a great tragedy. Indeed, it was the greatest tragedy. He was martyred, along with his family members, simply because he stood against injustice. The family of Yazeed (the Banu Umayyah) and the family of Ziyad rejoiced the day he was killed. Not only did they celebrate the day of Ashura, but they turned it into a tradition for subsequent years. They would gather their family and friends and rejoice at the martyrdom of Imam Hussain. While fasting is a great form of worship, we have valid reservations regarding the fast of Ashura. It is always recommended to fast, anytime throughout the year (except Eid), but the problem is that there is a history of politics behind the fast of Ashura. Killing the very grandson of the Prophet was a major crime, so Banu Umayya attempted to shift the focus of the people for the day of Ashura. Possessing power and money, they spread to the Muslims that Ashura is a blessed day. They did so by indoctrinating their people that on Ashura God saved Prophet Musa and his people from the pharaoh. He saved Prophet Ibrahim from the fire of Namrud, and so on. To thank God for that blessed day, they encouraged the people to fast on Ashura. Here are several points that demonstrate how the hadeeths which speak of the fast of Ashura are fabricated. The Prophet probably never said them, but they were forged after him. First: There are several hadeeths in Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, and Tirmidhi which tell us when the Prophet arrived Medina, he saw the Jews fasting, Upon knowing the reason why they were fasting, he said we the Muslims are closer to Musa, so we should also fast. If you analyze these hadeeths, you will realize that they all go back to these four narrators who supposedly narrated them directly from the Prophet: 1- Ibn Abbas 2- Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari 3- Abu Huraira 4- Mu’awiya The Prophet came to Medina the first year of the Hijra. As for Ibn Abbas, he was born three years before Hijra, which makes him four years old when the Prophet supposedly said this Hadith. In the Science of Hadith, the narration of a four-year-old boy is generally not accepted. As for Abu Musa, he came from the tribe of Banu Ash’ar in Yemen. He became Muslim before the Hijra, but he was not seen in Medina till the battle of Khaybar in the seventh year after Hijra. The Prophet had sent him to Yemen to preach to his tribe. Hence, Abu Musa was not in Medina in the first year of Hijra, so how could he possibly narrate this hadith? As for Abu Huraira, he also was not seen in Medina until after the battle of Khaybar in the seventh year of Hijra. He also came from Yemen. As for Muawiya, the son of Abu Sufyan, he became Muslim in the eighth year of Hijra, so how could he narrate a hadith from the Prophet seven or eight years before he became Muslim? Some of the hadeeth go back to Ibn Zubayr, who was also a young boy when the Prophet entered Medina. Therefore, it is quite clear that all the narrators of this hadith were either not in Medina at the time, or they were young boys, so how can we possibly accept such a hadith? It is pretty convincing that the hadith was forged later on by Bani Umayya. Second: Let’s look at the word “Ashura” which is mentioned in the hadith. According to Ibn Al-Atheer, there are two meanings to Ashura: an old meaning and a new meaning. The old meaning, which was during the Arab’s time and the Prophet’s time, meant the tenth day of any month. The new meaning surfaced after Imam Hussain was killed on the tenth of Muharram. After that, Ashura came to be known as the tenth of Muharram, but before that it was simply the tenth day of any month. So when the Prophet supposedly said this hadith, he just said Ashura, and he didn’t say the tenth day of which month. This demonstrates that the hadith was forged after the day of Ashura, and it slipped from the mind of the ones who forged it that before Ashura, the word had a different, more general meaning. Third: Today, go to any Jew, even their scholars, and ask them: Do you have a fast on the day which God saved Moses, or a day which corresponds to the tenth of Muharram? They don’t, and they will tell you that even in the past they didn’t have such a fast. They fast on Yum Kippur, the day when Moses returned from Mt. Sinai and realized that his people were worshipping the calf. To expiate for their sin, they fasted, but they have no fast they day God saved them from the pharaoh. But the hadith in the books of Saheeh tells us that it was a tradition of the Jews, and they would all fast that day. If you even look at the day the Jews fast, it never corresponded with the tenth of Muharram when the Prophet came to Medina. It corresponded with Muharram on the 28th year after Hijra. Fourth: It seems the one who forged the hadith was not aware of how the Islamic Calendar originated. During the time of Umar, since Muslims wanted a set date to refer to, he created the Hijri calendar by seeking the advice of Imam Ali. So they decided to make the starting point the migration of the Prophet, and they made the first month Muharram. However, the Prophet entered Medina in Rabi-ul-Awwal, not in Muharram, and so the one who probably forged the hadith assumed that the Prophet entered Medina in Muharram because that is when the calendar starts. So the hadith tells us the Prophet when he first entered Medina he saw the Jews fasting on Ashura, but the Prophet didn’t enter Medina in Muharram, he did so in Rabu-ul-Awwal, ten months before Muharram! There’s a clear discrepancy here. Fifth: The prophet knows more about the Shariah of previous Prophets such as Prophet Musa, and he doesn’t need the Jews to teach him that. The Prophet is also higher than copying what the Jews would do. Sixth: How come there is so much emphasis on the fast of Ashura around the world? Thousands of speeches are dedicated to it, millions of pamphlets are distributed encouraging people to fast on Ashura, and so on. There are many other days throughout the year which are highly recommended to fast, such as the 27th of Rajab, but how come you don’t see a single pamphlet or speech encouraging it? This shows that this is a political thing, originally designed to focus the attention away from the Martyrdom of Imam Hussain, and to consider it a blessed day. I don’t know how anyone can stand on the Day of Judgment before Prophet Muhammad and consider the very day his grandson was slaughtered a blessed day. Thus, based on these reasons we have our reservations on the fast of Ashura. Banu Umayya were behind it, and considering it a blessed day is not an offence to us , but an offence to Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and his family. - Syed Baqir Al Qazwini

جو چاند اور سورج کی طرح حقیقیت ہو اس کو بیان کر دینے سے دوست دشمن کا اندازہ نہیں لگایا جاسکتا۔اگر اتنی ہی اہلبیت کی اہل سنت حکمرانوں میں محبت ہوتی تو واقعہ کربلا کے بعد بھی ہرحکمراں کے ہاتھوں ہر امام شہید نہیں ہوتے

کوئی روذہ نہیں ہے۔ صرف بغض اہل بیعت ہے۔

Best jawab......u both scholars hv best DALAIL....MUFTI TARIQ & ENGINEER ALI MIRZA BHI BHI

Roza is the sign of happiness

نعمت کے شکرانے کے طور پر بھی روزہ رکھا جاتا ہے. اور مولا کی شہادت کا دن غم ناک ہے. غم میں روزہ نہیں رکھتے. فاقہ کرتے ہیں

Allah pak ali bhai ko salamt or ajary azeem day...amieen....🤲🌹❣

two tho rozahy rahky ny chay inshahallah solve the problem Islam Zindabad jazakmulla so nice mrza ab good speech about Islam Islam Islam Islam Islam Islam

علی بھائی اللہ آپ کی عمر دراز کرے۔

One final short muslim roza rakhte hi aur Ahletashio matam karte hi bahis yaha khatam ....

جو روزہ یہودی رکھتے ہیں اس روزہ کو رکھنے کا شوق اہلِ سنت میں کتنا زیادہ پایا جاتا ہے۔۔۔۔۔ سبحان اللہ ۔۔۔۔!!!

wow mashAllah great answer

Jazak Allahu khairaa Engineer Muhammad Ali Bhaijaan Apne yeh video banake muje jawab dene ke laiq banadya mere samne aisa sawal ayaa tha.... Jawab dundra tha apke videos me aaj apne pura clear kardyaa bus 1 Question ka answer de dijye isi Topic se related hai

Agr 10 muharam ko roza sunat that to imam hussain a.s ny q is din pani manga n Hzrt Ali akber q apny baba k pass a k kehty thy n baba bht piyas hy kuch pani mil jay to imam ny apny bayty k mu h my zuban rakh di...etc agr sunt riz hta to imam sunat bhi nai chorty thy to q na rakha roza...

The strongest of these reasons is in order to be different from the People of the Book. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade resembling the People of the Book in many ahaadeeth. Al-Fataawa al-Kubra, part 6.

Shukaria ALI Bhai.🇵🇰💝🌹👍

Jazak Allah khair

Ramzan ke roze wajib hain na k ashure ka or rahi baat ashure ke roze ki to gham hamesha khushi pe ghalib hota hai (aap sari khushiyan bhool jaoge agar aapke ghar pe khushi k date per koi badi ghamnaak waqya ho jaye next year jb bhi wo din aaega to aap khushi nahi gham manaoge) agreed or not ?

Good analysis Ali Bhai. Great.

Hussain zindabaad

Ali bhai karte hen dhood ka dhood panl ka Pani. Jajakallah

بھائی آپ بہت اچھا کام کر رہےہیں

Engineer mirza is a legend

allah k bndo apnay Imam Hussain ki pyas ki yaad mein roza rakha jata hai.

Rafzio ko agg lagi hui hai 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👀🔥🔥🔥🔥mirza ali haq bolte hai r jo haq par nahi wo hamesha phasta hai

Their holiday is passover not the one mentioned.. kindly do your recearch before giving guidance .. passover is celebrated as a result of freedom from pharaoh The jewish calander was updated to its current forn in 1173 ad approx and thus in the time of prophet pbuh the calander was different And anothet thing the passover is celebrated in the first month that is nisan and from the 15th So you can say there is confusion

Allah humma sali ala muhammad wa aly Muhammad

Great answer

علی شکریہ آپکا اہلسنت حضرات روزہ رکھے قرب حاصل الہٰی کیلئے تو ہم شیعیان علی ع کو کوئی اعتراض نہیں بنو امیہ کے عظائم اور بغض اہلبیت تو تھا ہی ان میں ابھی بھی ناصبی خارجیوں منافقین کی کمی نہیں ۔اللّٰہ ان ناصبی خارجی منافقین ظالموں پر لعنت بیجا ہے قیامت تک ۔ ہم اہلسنت کے خدا شناس لوگوں کی احترام کرتا ہوں ۔

Ali bhi with lots of respect. Why don’t you all sit together and sort this matter out. I mean you and Shia brother sss 😀

Mohammad Ali Mirza is really great one. No doubt....!!!

Esa lgta he jese thora thora hr ek ko khush krne ki koshish me lge hn

سارے چینلوں میں سے آپکا جواب نہیں شکریہ

shia roza es leay nai rakhty k yazedeion ny rakha tha. es waja sy vo bilkul theak krty hain.

Jazakallah Hu khaira. wa hasanul zajaa.aap per ALLAH azza wazal ke lakhon karodon ke nyamathain. Aur rehamathai. ho aur humper aur share karnay aur sununay walonper bhi. Ho. aameen summa aameen Assalamu alaikum wa rehmatulla hi wa barakathu Hu for aaaaall Muslim

آج ١٠ محرم ہے کس کس اہلِ سنت نے یہودیوں کی سنت پر عمل کرتے ہوئے آج کا روزہ رکھا تھا۔۔۔۔۔؟؟؟

1. The Jews had their own calendar and months. There is no logic in saying that they fasted on the 10th of Muharram - unless it could be proved that this date always coincided with a Jewish day of fast? 2. The month in which God delivered the Israelites from Pharaoh was Abib (i.e. Rajab), as the Bible clearly says: "Observe the month of Abib, and keep the passover unto the Lord thy God: for in the month of Abib the Lord thy God brought thee forth out of Egypt by night." (Deut., 16:1) 3. There is a point to ponder for the Muslims: The Prophet (s.a.w.) was sent with a religion to abrogate all previous religions and shari'ah. How was it that he deigned to imitate the custom of the Jews? 4. Moreover, the 10th of Tishri is not related to the savior of Moses and the children of Israel but rather the 10th of Tishri is the day the children of Israel paid atonement for worshipping the calf when Prophet Moses and some companions went to Mount Sinai. As a result of this incident, the Jews fast on the 10t of Tishri. However, the hadith relating to the fast of Ashura claims that the Jews were fasting on the 10th of Tishri due to the savior of Moses and the children of Israel! Rather, the savior of the children of Israel occurred on the 15th of Nissan in the Jewish calendar and the 15th of Nissan in the 1st year of Hijra corresponded to the 23rd of Ramadan. Hence, if there should be a fast which is recommended then it should have nothing to do with the 10th of Muharram but rather the 23rd of Ramadan.

Analysis done by a Shia Alim. If the comment can be delivered to Ali bhai, it'd be beneficial for us

Jaali ahadees ki waja se musalmano me ikhtilaf hai.Shia sirf apne favour me jaane wali ahadees ko mante hai aur Sunni sirf apne favour me jaane wali ahadees ko mante hai.

MashAllah

بسمه تعالى والصلاة والسلام على رسوله وآل رسوله. أما بعد. أهل دين اليهود عندهم في أيام النبي صلى الله عليه وآله اثنين تقويمين. أول منهم النيسان (Nisan) واستعملو ذالك العلماء أهل اليهود للأعمال دينية وفيه شهر تشري سابعاً. والثانياً التقويم التشري (Tishri) اؤ تقويم للشعب (Civil calendar) واستعملو هذا الأعوام الناس للمعاملات عامية كمثل الزارع،تعليم في المدارس، تجارة وهكذا وما للدينيات وفيه شهر تشري أولاً. لهذا السبب، صامو اليهود في شهر تشري على التقويم النيسان، و هو فيه شهر السابع وليس أول. واليوم هو في lunisolar calendar حالياً في شهر September يطابق شهر تشري على التقويم النيسان وهو شهر السابع وليس الأول. فلا يصومون أهل اليهود في شهر أول عندهم بل السابع فليس يوم كبور عند أهل اليهود يوم العاشوراء. فإجتهاد الشيخ الميرزا على غلط والشيخ شيعي صحيح. والسلام. The Jewish people originally during the days of the Prophet ص had two calendars: the Nisan calendar for religious purposes used by their clerics which has Tishri as the seventh month and the Tishri calendar, also called the civil calendar, used by common people for everyday purposes like farming, schools, trade, etc. which has Tishri as the first month. The civil calendar was not used for religious purposes. To this day, the modern lunisolar calendar has Yom Kippur in September which coincides with the month of Tishri in the Nisan calendar (religious calendar) which makes it the seventh month as the Şia sheikh said, and not the first month as sheikh Mirza said. As per a quick survey and comparison of calendars and chronology, by tallying the hegira in both Islamic and Julian calendars and the date of the first Aşure fasting from books of history, it can be noted that Yom Kippur and Muharrem did not coincide that year. Thus, it is easy to see that the Yom Kippur fasting doesn't correlate with the Aşure fasting and is therefore, academically speaking, very likely to be a later addition. Nonetheless, both Şia and Sunni viewpoints are respectable and there shouldn't be animosity and hatred between Şia and Sunni brothers. Salam.

Ali bai ap ki har bat pr ethfaq ha.. Mashallah ap hr bat bohat achi trah explain karte hen.. But ye roze wali bat jo ha is mai shia alim ki jo bat ha wo sach lag rahi ha ap k sare dleal mai koi khas wazan nai ha .. Or jo shia alim ne bat ki ha.. ke yahoodion ka 10 muharram se kiya tallak un ka mahina alag un ke mahino ke nmae alag un ka hamare Islamic data se kiya tallak.

اگر 10 محرم کے روزے کی فضیلت ہے تو آل رسول صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے 10 محرم کو روزہ کیوں نہیں رکھا الاتش کی صدائیں کیوں بلندی تھیں ؟

10 Muharram bad ma howa nabi pak ki hadees sahi wazy hy

ِیہودی اس دن ٢۴ گھنٹے کا روزہ رکھتے ہیں ۔ اہلِ سنت سے گزارش ہے کہ وہ بھی ٢۴ گھنٹے کا روزہ رکھیں۔۔۔۔😂😂😂😂😂

Here are several points that demonstrate how the hadeeths which speak of the fast of Ashura are fabricated. The Prophet (s) probably never said them, but they were forged after him. First: There are several hadeeths in Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, and Tirmidhi which tell us when the Prophet(s) arrived Medina, he saw the Jews fasting, Upon knowing the reason why they were fasting, he said we the Muslims are closer to Musa, so we should also fast. If you analyze these hadeeths, you will realize that they all go back to these four narrators who supposedly narrated them directly from the Prophet: 1- Ibn Abbas 2- Abu Musa Al-Ash’ari 3- Abu Huraira 4- Mu’awiya The Prophet (s) came to Medina the first year of the Hijra. As for Ibn Abbas, he was born three years before Hijra, which makes him four years old when the Prophet (s) supposedly said this Hadith. In the Science of Hadith, the narration of a four-year-old boy is generally not accepted. As for Abu Musa, he came from the tribe of Banu Ash’ar in Yemen. He became Muslim before the Hijra, but he was not seen in Medina till the battle of Khaybar in the seventh year after Hijra. The Prophet had sent him to Yemen to preach to his tribe. Hence, Abu Musa was not in Medina in the first year of Hijra, so how could he possibly narrate this hadith? As for Abu Huraira, he also was not seen in Medina until after the battle of Khaybar in the seventh year of Hijra. He also came from Yemen. As for Muawiya, the son of Abu Sufyan, he became Muslim in the eighth year of Hijra, so how could he narrate a hadith from the Prophet seven or eight years before he became Muslim? Some of the hadeeth go back to Ibn Zubayr, who was also a young boy when the Prophet entered Medina. Therefore, it is quite clear that all the narrators of this hadith were either not in Medina at the time, or they were young boys, so how can we possibly accept such a hadith? It is pretty convincing that the hadith was forged later on by Bani Umayya. Second: Let’s look at the word “Ashura” which is mentioned in the hadith. According to Ibn Al-Atheer, there are two meanings to Ashura: an old meaning and a new meaning. The old meaning, which was during the Arab’s time and the Prophet’s time, meant the tenth day of any month. The new meaning surfaced after Imam Hussain was killed on the tenth of Muharram. After that, Ashura came to be known as the tenth of Muharram, but before that it was simply the tenth day of any month. So when the Prophet supposedly said this hadith, he just said Ashura, and he didn’t say the tenth day of which month. This demonstrates that the hadith was forged after the day of Ashura, and it slipped from the mind of the ones who forged it that before Ashura, the word had a different, more general meaning. Third: Today, go to any Jew, even their scholars, and ask them: Do you have a fast on the day which God saved Moses, or a day which corresponds to the tenth of Muharram? They don’t, and they will tell you that even in the past they didn’t have such a fast. They fast on Yum Kippur, the day when Moses returned from Mt. Sinai and realized that his people were worshipping the calf. To expiate for their sin, they fasted, but they have no fast they day God saved them from the pharaoh. But the hadith in the books of Saheeh tells us that it was a tradition of the Jews, and they would all fast that day. If you even look at the day the Jews fast, it never corresponded with the tenth of Muharram when the Prophet (s) came to Medina. It corresponded with Muharram on the 28th year after Hijra. Fourth: It seems the one who forged the hadith was not aware of how the Islamic Calendar originated. During the time of Umar, since Muslims wanted a set date to refer to, he created the Hijri calendar by seeking the advice of Imam Ali. So they decided to make the starting point the migration of the Prophet, and they made the first month Muharram. However, the Prophet entered Medina in Rabi-ul-Awwal, not in Muharram, and so the one who probably forged the hadith assumed that the Prophet entered Medina in Muharram because that is when the calendar starts. So the hadith tells us the Prophet when he first entered Medina he saw the Jews fasting on Ashura, but the Prophet didn’t enter Medina in Muharram, he did so in Rabu-ul-Awwal, ten months before Muharram! There’s a clear discrepancy here. Fifth: The prophet (s) knows more about the Shariah of previous Prophets such as Prophet Musa, and he doesn’t need the Jews to teach him that. The Prophet (s) is also higher than copying what the Jews would do. Sixth: How come there is so much emphasis on the fast of Ashura around the world? Thousands of speeches are dedicated to it, millions of pamphlets are distributed encouraging people to fast on Ashura, and so on. There are many other days throughout the year which are highly recommended to fast, such as the 27th of Rajab, but how come you don’t see a single pamphlet or speech encouraging it? This shows that this is a political thing, originally designed to focus the attention away from the Martyrdom of Imam Hussain, and to consider it a blessed day. I don’t know how anyone can stand on the Day of Judgment before Prophet Muhammad and consider the very day his grandson was slaughtered a blessed day. Banu Umayya were behind it, and considering it a blessed day is not an offence to us the Shia, but an offence to Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and his family. I got this all off a website..pretty interesting though! All this is a shia viewpoint..bt authenticity of ahadith needs to be validated since a lot of em were fabricated after the Prophet's death The propaganda and media machinery indoctrinate the population by emphasizing that the prophet entered Medina in the month of Muharram and thus he met the Jews on the 10th of Muharram. Let’s assume that this is valid as we analyze the Jewish and Islamic calendar. Hence, for an assumption: Ashura= 10th of Muharram in 1st year of Hijra. The Hadith relating to the fast of Ashura claims that the Jews fast on the day of the savior of prophet Moses and the children of Israel on the 10th of Tishri (Jewish calendar) and this corresponds to the 10th of Muharram (Islamic calendar). The hadith also claims that when the prophet (pbuh) acknowledged that the Jews were fasting on Ashura, he commanded the Muslims to fast on the 9th and 10th of Muharram. Consequently, the existence of Judaism today further assists the recovery of truth. Ask the Jews whether they fast on the day that prophet Moses (pbuh) and the children of Israel were saved by the Almighty Allah. Ask them whether the day in which they fast corresponds to the 10th of Muharram. The answer is simply NO. The Jews have no such fast and it NEVER corresponded to the 10th of Muharram in the first year of Hijra. The only time the 10th of Tishri corresponded to the 10th of Muharram was in the 29th year after Hijra. Yet, the hadith claims that the prophet met the Jews in the first year of Hijra! Moreover, the 10th of Tishri is not related to the savior of Moses and the children of Israel but rather the 10th of Tishri is the day the children of Israel paid atonement for worshipping the calf when Prophet Moses and some companions went to Mount Sinai. As a result of this incident, the Jews fast on the 10t of Tishri. However, the hadith relating to the fast of Ashura claims that the Jews were fasting on the 10th of Tishri due to the savior of Moses and the children of Israel! Rather, the savior of the children of Israel occurred on the 15th of Nissan in the Jewish calendar and the 15th of Nissan in the 1st year of Hijra correspponded to the 23rd of Ramadan. Hence, if there should be a fast which is recommended then it should have nothing to do with the 10th of Muharram but rather the 23rd of Ramadan.

Mola Ali waly din just Mola Ali shaheed huay r idhr 6 month k bchy ko b ni chorha gya. Ye dukh bahot brha h 10 muharram sy brh k dunya m r koi afsos naak din ni aya

Hum shia ya zakir ki nhi hadees ki sunte or mante hai soooo shut up ….. yahoodi rakhte hai or ap idlsm k jhoute baap nhi bana karen shia always think k unko pata hai iskam k baap hai in k ilawa kisi ko nhi pata …. Great answer engineer sahab

It is approved from the saying of Holy Prophet SAW

واہ انجینئر صاحب واہ معاویہ پلیت بھی راضی اللہ ہوگیا کیا انصاف کیا داد دینی چاہئے آپ کو

Jazakumullah

but kmzor daleel de hy Ali bhai ny es bat py

علی بھائی ! السلام علیکم ورحمتہ اللہ وبرکا تہ، شیعوں کی حمایت آہستہ آہستہ بڑی مہنگی پڑے گی ۔

Engineer bhai agar 10 tareekh ka roza sabit hai to hadees lao yaa ayat sunao k 10 ki sehri me imam hussain yaa kisi or sahabi ya bibi ne piyas ki halat me rozy ki niyat ki ho warna bugz e ali ko or door karo

Masha Allah,sabit ho gya zakireen ghalth bayani krty haen,or Sach ko zahir nahi krty .. Shia sudhar Jao,gumrah logo ki perovi SE niklo...Sunat tariqe mein nijat hae,Jo uske mukhalif hae,apni Akbat khrab kr rahy haen or dosron ko gumrah kr rahy haen...

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Mujhe nhi lagta k Rasool s.a.w yahoodio se seekhay gay k roza kis din rakha Jaye mere hisaab se Rasool s.a.w ka har Amal wahi e ilaahi par mabni tha, or Phir roza next year se rakhna tha na jis din dekha k yahoodi roza rakh rahay to hamay bhi rakhna chahyeh k hum ziada qareebi Hain esa k to Phir us he din kese roza rakhliya ?? Or qareebi honay ki nishani roza rakhna hai ?? Bhai Shia k Han har Eid ko roza rakha ja ta hai siwaye Eid ul fitr k pahlay pata to karlo k Eid kis kis din manate Hain Shia, or bakra Eid pe bhi common nhi hai lekin Mana bhi nhi hai, acha ab ajaye imam Jaffer Sadiq a.s k farman pe hamaray leyeh un ki kahi baat hujjat hai, or AP un ki baat kinkhilaf warzi karte huay Hardee's or daleel paish Kar rahay Hain, fasiq kaha jata hai us ko Jo ek momin ko jhoota kahay or kafir kaha jata hai us ko Jo Quran ko jhoota kahay, ab AP apna hisaab karlo kyun k mere hisab may imam Jaffer Sadiq a.s jhoot nhi bol saktay.... Meri duty hogaee poori ab AP ki baari

Ali bhai 21 ramzan wali phakki achi di

Haaq goo Aalim e deen Ali bhai....👍🌹❣

Nabi s. A. Ne Do roze rake h. Hm bi rakhte bs.

مجھے سمجھ نہیں آتی جب وہ قومیں ہمارے پیارے نبیٌ سے متعلق کسی بھی چیز کو سیلیبریٹ نہی کرتے تو پھر ہم ان سے رلیٹڈ کسی بھی ایونٹ کو کیوں منا رہے ہیں۰ اس حساب سے تو پھر کریس مس بھی ہمیں منا لینا چاہے۰۰۰آج ان کی متبرک کتابیں بھی ہمارے لئے بے معنی ہو چکی ۰ہم رسول پاکٌ کی امت ہیں اور ہمیں انہی سے متعلق جو بھی غمی ہا خوشی کا ایونٹ ہو وہ منانا چاہےنہ کے پچھلے گزری ہوئ قوموں کی ہار جیت منائیں۰۰

He didn’t respond to the Chain of Narrators, that Shia Aalim rejected that as well, proving that Chain right was a critical point which he couldn’t do.

Fasting on 10 muharram 9 august 2022

bat 50 se ziada AHADEES HAIN sahi Muslim or sahi bukhari m RASOOL E KHUDA SE MANSOOB HAIN OR NAOZUBILLAH KIYA RASOOL E KHUDA KO NHI PATA THA K YAHOODI KI 10 MOHARAM KONSE DIN HY 🙏 BAS KARDO YAR HUMARE NABI NE ROZA RUKHA HY HAR SAAL 10 MOHARAM KA PHIR BATADUN SAHI MUSLIM M OR SAHI BUKHARI M 50 SE ZIADA AHADEES HAIN MANNE WALE K LIYE ITNA BOHOT HY K RASOOL E KHUDA NE ROZA RUKHA OR 10 MOHARAM KO BAR BAR BOL KAR BAS YAHAN BAT KHATAM OR NA,MANNE WALE KO 1 HAZAR AHADEES DIKHADO KOI FARK NHI PERHTA KOI BHAT BURA NHI MANE SHIA HO YA SUNNI M SIRF AK BAT BOL RAHA HUN KISI KO BURA LAGA HOTO MAZRAT or 100 ki 1 bat yahan bat yahoodi k roze rukhne ki hy hi nhi 10 ka roza RASOOL E KHUDA NE RUKH OR BOLA K TUM BHI RAHO BAS BAT KHATAM. ALLAH PAK HUMARE DILON M AHLEBAIT KI MOHOBBAT DALE AMEEN