I was unconvinced of Church teaching on contraception, although I was living the teaching. I had a conversion when I was 19 and began attending daily mass, where I began to experience the depth and beauty of the liturgy and the Catholic faith. One morning, I was surveying the brochures in the vestibule and came accross the document, Humanae Vitae. I read it with tears of joy, having never heard such a beautiful vision for human sexuality. I was immediately converted and now I teach NFP!
Father, you are so right. I converted to Catholicism because I was called to it. I didn't know how I was going to reconcile those things I was leery about with the very strong knowledge I had that I needed to be part of The Church. Once I took the step and embraced all that "Catholic" means and is and does and believes, I saw the wisdom in their teachings....a wisdom given by Christ.
Being Catholic means accepting the parts of doctrine and dogma which may make us uncomfortable. Jesus didn’t found a Church to be a facilitator; He founded a Church to teach the truth.
Bravo to you Fr. Barron just because the hundred are against you and do wrong by your faith. Is no reason for the one to give up, when the world could turn on just one. And you invite us to dialogue and words of meaning it can be a thing to bear, but if you give the best and promise the best, I will never leave of you. head up, chin up good luck my friend.
Fr. Barron, I agree with what you said. I think its the same thing that Pope Francis has been saying. However, the 900 pound gorilla in the room is that the Church was given authority by Jesus Christ to speak on his behalf. Why believe only part of what the Church teaches, but reject the rest? Why would the Church be correct on the Eucharist, but incorrect on Fornication? Friends, those who are Jesus friends are those who follow his commandments - and that includes ALL of the teachings - not those that are comfortable. There IS NO RESURRECTION without the CROSS. The Church is supposed to bend us in the shape of holiness - the person of Jesus Christ.
And if we aren't bent into the shape of Christ here on this earth, we'll have to be bent into that shape i the hereafter...or worse,,,we risk our eternal salvation irrevocably in Hell.
Fr. Martin's question was about those who already believe the creed of the church, who already it seems grasp the fundamentals and feel them in their hearts but still struggle in the move that is made from the fundamentals to the positions on particular issues. I wish Fr. Barron would have responded to the more difficult part of Fr. Martin's question, namely what is supposed to happen in that middle ground between Catholic fundamentals and taking a position on an issue.
I’m in 100% agreement with Bishop B!!! It is only in doing the service of Christ that one can fully understand why the fundamental teachings of Christ is necessary as instructed by the Church. Unless you participate in the life of the Church, you will struggle to understand the hot button issues. The people and even most Catholics who oppose with many teachings on hot button issues are guess what? Not actively involved in living the parochial and catholic life, hence struggling to agree with her teachings.
God's presence with us through matter has been a loving gift to us since ancient times. Leviticus 16:2 "The LORD said to Moses, "Warn your brother, Aaron, not to enter the Most Holy Place behind the inner curtain whenever he chooses; if he does, he will die. For the Ark's cover--the place of atonement--is there, and I myself am present in the cloud above the atonement cover."
I don't know about the Church being the wealthiest organized religion, that's really hard to say. Yes the Church is still recovering from scandals, but there's been scandals in the Church since the time of Christ. Scandals happen because we're human. That's the real paradox...one, holy, catholic, apostolic church, yet filled with sinful human beings in need of healing, mercy, forgiveness and love. Look to the saints and you'll see what the Catholic Church is really about.
I hope it will plunge you deeper into figuring out why your Church teaches something contrary to what you believe. I can assure she has brilliant and sound reasons that have your (and everyone else's) best interest at heart.
I am disappointed in Bishop Barron's inadequate response to this question. With vague answers like this it's not surprising that many confused and wish-washy Catholics fall prey to an ever increasing immoral secular world. We want Church leaders to be direct, clear, and courageous in spreading Christ's teachings, even if it means being politically incorrect.
Man, these comments are pretty harsh. Bishop Barron gave a good response. The church is a mission that is trying to reach everyone. How will telling people that are struggling with these “hot button” issues the hard answer of “homosexuality is wrong, abortion is wrong, contraception is wrong going to help anyone understand WHY those things are wrong. Think back to what the Pharisees did; they enforced the law and forgot the fundamentals that brought the law into being. We can’t do that again
This just seems like a really inadequate answer: what about Catholic theologians who struggle with RCC teaching? These struggles don't just come down to a lack of knowledge about the fundamentals, but are sometimes present due to that very knowledge! I would love to hear Barron's more complete answer.
I recently met a women who was getting married to a Catholic and wished to convert before the wedding because she found herself falling in love with the Mass. But she was getting cot on the "Hot button" issues. I told her to wright down all of the issues she had and what she believed about them. Then simply compare notes with the Catholic Church. ~.^ She has been finding the Church knows what they are talking about better then she does.
They weren't organized? How did they compile the Bible if they weren't organized? How did they pray together if they weren't organized? How did they pick a leader if they weren't organized?
I would agree with that statement up to a point. Catholicism's artwork is second to none esoterically; however, when priests give literal rather than esoteric explanations of that art and scriptural readings than the rhetoric of the Church (not the teachings of the bible) becomes wholly demonic.
William Meegan Who interprets the Bible for you, Mr. Meegan? By what authority do you interpret scripture. You might find it curious to learn that the Roman Catholic Church assembled the Bible and the whole world accepted the compilation until Martin Luther changed it all in the 16th century. So, if you use the King James version of the Bible, you're missing a few books. What about the first disciples of Christ? The first book of the New Testament wasn't written until about 50 A.D., with the other books coming later. With what did the apostles teach with? The answer is they used word of mouth. This is what is called Tradition in teaching. This is still a method used today. It isn't demonic, it's the way that it has been done for 2000 years. Nothing has changed in that respect with the Roman Catholic Church for 2000 years. In the 16th century there was the reformation. From that protestantism splintered over and over again until we have people, like yourself, that have no idea when and where the church they belong to began. The Roman Catholic Church began with Christ when he placed Peter as the first Pope ("You are Peter and upon you I shall build my Church.") Then he filled the apostles with the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. Jesus said, "He will send a paraclete to guide you in all Truth." Are saying the Holy Spirit failed to guide the original Church in all Truth? Are you saying that the Holy Spirit allowed the original Church to fail so that a new Church could be formed in the 16th century by Martin Luther? Not a very strong argument if you ask me.
Scott Burkhart I like your reasoning. I have read too many apologists that get too far down in the weeds trying to explain a very simple truth. - Jesus said, "He will send a paraclete to guide you in all Truth." Are you saying that the Holy Spirit allowed the original Church to fail so that a new Church could be formed in the 16th century by Martin Luther? - Great logic, pure, simple and sound. And by the way, I am going to use this.
Because a lot of people like to say things to be blatantly offensive, what I say is painted with that brush. However. Being "Separated from the Body Of Christ" (an abstract concept), has truly not hurt me. I am still part of a community. My virtue is intact by what repulses me (violence, child abuse, murder, etc).
Excellent answer, Bishop Barron. I can now see that Fr. James Martin has been on his high horse for quite a long time. Now he is getting the approbation of the Vatican. He and all concerned need our prayers. Please join me ⭐️💐❤️🙏🏾🇬🇧
In the new evangelization we should meet people where they are. While I agree some may not know enough to understand these teachings the answer is not to change the subject. The common thread is Life. God created life, so the Church is against anything that prevents or destroys it, or gives power to one over another. Yet she opens her arms wide to the repentant, and we all are fierce sinners. How our world could be transformed if we all so embraced Life! Love our neighbors-all of them.
Ask yourself, "Do I believe what I stand and profess at mass when saying the creed?" To say that you believe in one Holy, Catholic, and apostolic Church, means that you affirm their teachings and believe them as true and correct. Now, if you disagree, which apparently you do, before turning away from the Church may I suggest you truly search out the Church's actual teachings on these matters. God is constant. God is also faithful. Are you?
Well, in that case, if they feel that "being" a Catholic is an option for them if and when they feel like doing so, why would they bother with Catholicism at all?
I have a hard time with the churches economic teachings, not the principles but the idea that the state rather than private individuals should be a catalyst for catholic social doctrine
I prefer to vote based on individual candidates rather than party membership since not everyone toes the party line. In fact, in an ideal world, there would be no political parties, but this is just how things are I suppose.
The point isn't whether or not he could've done anything about it, it's whether or not his presidency would've tipped this country in a better direction. America lives (or dies) through many small changes over time.
so when you were a wee lad, back when you were pleasant and made sense, what did you call the man or woman who taught you sunday school - your Sunday School ______?
I think it's a great answer. What's Fr. Barron going to say that will "change" anyone's mind, or send them in a better direction? Even if we read the greatest treatises on the 'hot-button issues,' it will all be for naught without the Holy Spirit's assistance. That's why Fr. Barron is right on-target...if we don't plunge ourselves into that wellspring of grace, we'll remain confused about so many things.
You practice violation of the 8th (Augustinian List)/ 9th (Philonic List) Commandment with every post. Is your sect the Second Church of the Ten Commandments Minus 9th of Wayne's Basement, I understand there was a split based on which list of Commandments to use.
This doesn't have much to do with Fr. Baron's answer, but there is something more severe about the way the Church in America tends to operate that drives away many more people (in my experience) than issues mentioned here. Namely, that is the distortion of Catholic social teaching. In many cases, the Church ends up speaking out AGAINST the preferential option for the poor, often for the sake of abortion (which is most often caused by poverty, and could be much better handled socially).
Hot button issues are hot button issues because people have been led astray and they don't want to fundamentally transform their thought process. They want their cake and to eat it too. They want to be in the church, have salvation, but not really give up their ideas on the way they think things ought to be. Hence, we have generations of people clamoring for the church to change with the times, which is the gravest error the church could make. The church absolutely has to be strong and resolute in its messaging but deliver it in the most loving manner possible.
Why are they called Hot Button issues? Because they draw a lot of heat, interest and relevancy in today's age -- they're the important questions. So these questions have to be answered successfully if someone wants to go farther in Catholicism. It not about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin which was an issue of the Middle Ages or Christ's status as both human and divine which was an even earlier issue for the Church. So to not ask the question in some ways means putting the cart before the horse or almost letting a salesman snow job you on buying a stereo system with, "Hey Kid, don't worry about that listen to power of those speakers! WHOOO!" The honest way would be to answer the question.
the medievals did not think about how many angels could fit on the head of a needle, this is a modern urban myth, they where some of the greatest thinkers the world has seen, do them justice and tell the truth about the complex subjects which they debated, i.e the nature of Being, the absolute primacy of Christ, the theology of salvation, sanctification and predestination, the nature of substance, matter and form, ect. and the full divinity of and humanity of Christ where NEVER DENIED by the Mainsteam orthodox Church from 33AD-present,
blablabubles I 'm not arguing that "the full divinity of and humanity of Christ where NEVER DENIED by the Mainsteam orthodox Church from 33AD-present."
Blind Eye Jones the closest it got were the apostsacy of the eatern Churches who fell into the heresy of nestorianism in the 4th century and the arian heresy which took most of the byzantine world in the 3rd century
blablabubles Well, the Nestorian heresy started because he was a Greek with a foul mouth and was naked and as filthy as they get but nobody thought too much of that, decked out as they were with their Cardinal robes and whatnot, until the Arians got in to it and they thought they where the super race because of Wagner's operas and Hitler (and both of those guys were snappy dressers too), so the issue of heresy came down to hair shirts and hirsute tendencies and if they only found a proper tailor for Nestor things would have been different. That's the way I understand it...
Good question FR. Martin. The answer left me wanting more Bishop Barron. I'd love to enter into the church and address these issues from the inside. Problem, I'm not allowed to receive the Holy Sacrament and neither is my wife. Our failure is that my first wife, whom I divorced 45 years ago, may possibly have been baptized catholic, although she has always been an atheist. So I found another Church where the doors are wide open, just like our Savior's arms.
@@johnstewart7025 We were married in a civil ceremony. But that's not the question from the Church. They want to know if my first wife may have been baptized Catholic.
@@johnstewart7025 My current, and permanent wife of 40 years, and I were joined in a civil marriage as was the case with my first wife. I was baptized Anglican (USA Episcopal), but converted to Buddhism when I was 18 and remained one until about 7 years ago. The problem has been for my wife and I to receive Holy Communion in a Catholic church. Church administration are being extremely conservative and following Church regulations to the letter. They've put too many obstacles in our way for this to happen. Happily, I found a RC priest who thinks all the regulations are contrary to the spirit of Christ's teachings and so we attend his church.
Barron's fundamental error is in assuming that the Catholics, Father James Martin mentioned, haven't already immersed themselves in Bishop Barron's " fundamental questions". So, good Bishop, let's try this question again based on the assumption that they've been there already - now what?
Tom Greene === Your shallow jab at the non-catholic is pathetic. Typical of the catholic to draw first blood though. Who is it that harbors hate in their heart for their enemy ........................................................ the catholic does. And they call themselves ''Christian''. What a joke the catholic religion is.
justthinken1 as far as some Catholics go..... we have to forgive them, for they know not what they do. The Catholic Church was infiltrated in the 40's, 50's, &60's by the wicked free masons and the corruption from Vatican ll is now showing its spoiled fruits. Catholics since Vatican ll were not taught correctly because Satan came in and is purposely destroying her from within. But, have no fear. Trust Jesus. Jesus says that the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church. Listen to Padre Pio's letter on the three days of darkness. He was of our time..... this makes me think that the great chastisement is at hand. Listen to Michael Voris on his Church Militant channel on RU-vid to fully understand the corruption in the Church today. Mary help us!
feelings....so arbitrary. i'm not arguing with your point at all. i agree. people should not have a pick and choose mentality about catholicism, or any faith. i think it is dishonesty with themselves, and others in their church.
Either "automaton" is more broad of a word than you think, or those who act according to predetermined values are not necessarily as mechanical as automatons; in either case, the point is that, with any group of human beings, many will present a disparity between what they say and what they do, whether they are aware of it. People think being Catholic means going to Church on Christmas and agreeing with Joe Biden, but the doctrine of Catholicism is as political as any opinion on reality can be.
1) Not percentage-wise... /watch?v=ZuhYRZRfTuY 2) It doesn't change the fact that poverty is a very close #2 3) Are you planning to adopt? If so, the argument's valid. Please, drop the "reason" from your name.
I think the problem humans have with these teachings is that we are attempting to fit our faith, Catholic or Protestant, into our secular, Darwinistic, material, world view and won't doesn't fit. Once we accept that WE have to change to fit the religion, it becomes more clear. Why? Simply, when you understand the spiritual side of marriage, sex, pregnancy, the secular issues go away. One cannot believe that sex is just a physical urge to be satisfied either by a spouse or a random acquaintance and understand that it involves God himself. If we can accept that making love includes divine involvement and is sanctified by our wedding vows and commitments, they the other teachings fall right into place. Sex is not an uncontrollable, unsatiable, primal urge that has to be satisfied. With Godly discipline and true love of God and the person you choose to spend your life with, it becomes so much more than just an animalistic instinct. Then it has so much more meaning and a pregnancy can be realized as the blessing it is.
And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them : and that Rock was Christ. 1Corinthians 10,4 It looks to me like Paul knew exactly who was the pillar of Christanity.
Struggling with church teaching......... Bishop Barrons response to this question is inadequate! He has skirted round the question and does not address the issue in a way that would help Catholics respond to questions from non- Catholics. This is disappointing as these issues are tossed to us almost on a daily basis and being unable to address them in an intelligent way makes it look like there is no real Catholic answer. Diane
Isn't the answer that homosexual behavior is just as wrong as fornication? And, of course, the church teachings on abortion and contraception are pretty well known. Same sex marriage would be wrong, in part, I imagine, because there can't be sex for children. Now a non-Catholic isn't going to understand because they don't have the foundation, which is what Barron is demanding.
Doesn't that simply prove that the Catholic Church isn't a political organization? Catholics are people, too, and despite making a reasonable moral argument for a particular political candidate, Catholics will still vote as they want to, often, maybe even the majority, voting simply based on historical/family support of a party.
How would "Being" have a specific personality at all? HOW does being the "author of life" imply ownership and moral immunity? Don't we hold creators on earth responsible for what they and their creations do? Again, do the math.
Wayne loves falsely criticizing Catholics on violating his 2nd (the First/Second Commandment, depending on which list) Commandment, yet has no problem violating the 8th.
Jesus was referring to the solemn, familial relationship in this context of the name "Father." The bible has many examples where the use of the word "Father" carries a meaning of respect and reverence. To take one word, restrict its meaning to one usage, and exclude the overall body of inspired writings to score debate points is intellectually dishonest. Who do you think assembled the Bible that you quote? Who better to offer an interpretation than that same body?
That is not true and I'm so sorry that you feel that way. We are aware that, "while it is by divine vocation holy and without blemish, it is defective in its members and in continuous need of conversion and renewal"(Paenitemini, February 17, 1966). You shouldn't abandon the Church, you should help. In apostle Paul's words "Woe to me if I do not preach the Gospel!" (1 Cor 9: 16)
I have actually found the opposite to be true as a former Protestant become Catholic. One major example is that Protestants say the Jesus did not mean what he said in John 6. “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink."
2.) promoting general welfare is not charity work as general welfare applies to all classes, where as charity work applies to only certain ones. logic is relevant to the notion of a well ordered nation, 'darling.'
I liked the input as far as an approach vector, but to me, the important things *are* the so-called "hot button issues", for they are the things that set us apart- it is right and good that the Catholic Church be held to a ridiculously high standard, we're *Supposed* to be the "moral elite", if you please with the phrasing, as we were in the days of the first few centuries of Christendom, before we effectively assimilated the Roman Empire with the collapse of that state's nonfunctional situation. With that said, what of someone who's led into sin by their own embracing of the Church's teachings? That seems to be where I am at, Frs. Some of the Papal teachings, fully endorsed, have, in and of themselves, taught me to hate God, merely for Him *being* a spirit, and all spirits in particular, now including all human souls- my own included, and this is aimed at literally forcing them into Perdition for merely existing as spirits, due to a saint's writings forbidding any and all contact with any and all spirits, no matter what. When His Holiness says "NO Doing That." (or anything to the same message) it applies to literally *all* Catholics, even those who by following that are driven or compelled to hate God merely for being in the category that'd be contacted- you literally cannot go too far in pursuit of virtue- it's not possible, at all. However far you go, it's too little in production of virtue.
Church teachings led you to hate God. Sounds extreme, but I agree that church teachings drive a lot of us away -- and they aren't even the teachings on the core issues. (Although transubstiation is a doozy. Barron has the best pitch about that I have heard.)
@@johnstewart7025 Transubstantiation is really simple to comprehend, but when it comes to the doctors of the Church saying, heretically at that, same with the theologians in unison with the papacy, that all unbaptized innocents wind up in Hell by being refused entry into Heaven, then God by definition becomes a devil in His very nature.
@@chissstardestroyer I like the idea that God is simply the way the universe is and this includes our unconscious drives. Carl Jung described that we have a drive (archetype) for wholeness that can organize and harmonize all the other drives. So when the church says you'll go to hell if you aren't baptized, this would mean "you'll be miserable if you don't do what we say." By the way, Barron says the church does not specify that anyone is in hell, not even Judas.
@@johnstewart7025 I'd have my doubts about Carl Yung's views, not that those're his views, but rather that his views would be even remotely accurate. That said, Bishop Barron is exactly right in this regard: we only can possibly know that the devil is in Hell, no human being, and certainly since there're only three possible states of man post mortem, it requires that unbaptized infants wind up in Heaven immediately, as no other destinations can possibly exist for these children, especially as they have no *actual* sins, let alone no actual *mortal* sins, not to mention no sins at all- original sin simply doesn't count against man's salvation.
@@chissstardestroyer In reference to the biggest question: I know Jesus is supposed to be all Man and all God, but I don't even know what that means. I am all Man, and there is God. How have I said anything different about myself than the church says about Jesus? It is a distinction without a difference. Jesus was "just" a man, who said he was the son of God. Of course, "what a man!" I know Barron complains about those who want turn Jesus into a glorified Deepak Chopra. But there is a difference between walking the talk and only talking the talk.
to clarify, i'm not saying those 'pro-life' dems should not take a pro-life stance, i think they should be more honest with themselves about being in a party that has such opposite views from themselves.
My thoughts as well......I would like to know what Bishop Barron thinks about these issues.....I am asking as one inside the Church.....I am not an inquirer on Catholicism, I beleive it! I live it! 80 years a Catholic and now some obviously dysfunctional Priest is questioning the Scriptures and the words of Jesus. That is the answer I want. Can a divorced and remarried (non Sacramentally) Catholic receive the Eucharist? Can a Gay couple come to Church..hold hands and receive the Eucharist together...obviously cohabitating and in a "gay" marriage? Can a promoter of abortion (or other intrinsically evil public sin) receive the Eucharist.? I dont want to hear platitudes and mots about the Mercy of God. I know His mercy is bigger than any sin but please just answer the question!!! Where do you stand? If indeed these things would be permitted in the Church against the 2,000 year old Faith and Tradition then I am in the wrong "catholic" Church. I look longingly East at Constaninople and Antioch!! I wuld rather die than apostosize but I am feeling as if the Church is leaving me not me the Church!!! Pray!
This man is famous for skirting the issues and never completely "answers " the hot button topic questions! !!! He doesn't want to offend. Well, Jesus offended people and he let them just walk away. He did not recant His teachings. It is very sad, but priests like this are cowards. They do not fight for the truth. The Martyrs are turning in their graves. James Martin is a pro homosexualist and Barron probably didn't want to offend. Well, read the Bible and there you will find your answers. Listen to the Church fathers. Listen to Michael Voris on his Church Militant channel on RU-vid to fully understand the corruption in the Church today. Listen to Padre Pio's letter on the three days of darkness. Many other Saints also received this vision. Jesus does not tolerate sin. Jesus does not coexist with sin. Jesus does not build bridges with sin. Pray the rosary. MOTHER MARY HELP US! ! !
In no way can the divorced and remarried receive the Holy Eucharist. This is adultery! Homosexuals living that lifestyle, meaning active sexually, may not receive Holy Eucharist. This is fornication and is unnatural and goes against the law of God's purpose for man and woman. It's very clear He doesn't want this behavior. He destroyed five cities for this evil. As Catholics, we should know what is taught but most Catholics today are poorly trained in the authentic teachings. This is mainly due to the infiltration of the free masons and the homosexual priests. Many abuses came from Vatican ll and we are seeing the spoiled fruits of this right now. Listen to Michael Voris on his Church Militant channel to fully understand the corruption in the Church today. Study what the Church Fathers had to say about each of these topics. Read about the Marian apparitions and private revelations that reveal this evil of the free masons and why they want to destroy the Catholic Church. Listen to what Our Lady of Good Success reveals. Listen to Our Lady of LA Sallett, Our Lady of Akita, Our Lady of Fatima. The divorced person can perhaps aquire an annulment. Then they could have second marriage blessed by the Church. Unfortunately, the person with same sex attractions is suffering and is having a very difficult road to travel. There cross is so heavy. As Catholics we have to love, forgive, accept, welcome, and embrace them. And, help them come to terms with their cross. But they absolutely have to live a celibate life. This makes them so much closer to Jesus than they realize. For a person to live in this sin and refuse to give it up, refuse to repent and "go and sin no more " means that they are directly refusing the gift of forgiveness from Jesus. You cannot serve two masters. You cannot hold on to sin and Jesus at the same time. There are truly no easy words for the person in this situation except that Jesus loves them and many folks in this situation have been able to change their mindset and go on to live normal lives. Normal in the sense of God's plan for them. Perhaps with counseling. But one may not be accepted into the Church if they admit that it is their intention to remain in a homosexual union. It would be a grave mortal sin for a person to act on behalf of them as a sponser. It would be absolute heresy for a priest to allow this. But , there happens to be a very large group of wicked homosexual priests that are running the Church in not only this country, but many others as well. This is the work of the communists. Read the stories about Bella Dodd. I fear not, because Jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail against His Church. But I firmly believe that we have to fight for our faith and our Holy Roman Catholic Church. People change, times change, cultures change, but Jesus never changes. He is the same today as He was 2000 years ago. His word does not change. His teachings do not change. The words of Saint Paul do not change. The people in the Church that want to change the rules...THE LAW OF GOD, are trying to do so in order to suit their own needs and desires. This is Satan working real hard to steal all the souls he can. Listen to the visions of Pope Leo. Many other Saints also received this vision. It is of a conversation between Jesus and Satan . And Satan wants to destroy the Catholic Church and he asks for certain things ......
Don't worry but pray unceasingly with the one true weapon given to us by Our Blessed Mother. Saint Padre Pio said that! And because of his letter on the three days of darkness. ..... well Saint Padre Pio is of our time. Meaning, he isn't a Saint of 2,3,4,5 hundred years ago.... so, that should really make us wonder if the great chastisement is at hand. The Church is not leaving you, not as long as you have a voice and can fight for the truth, even unto death. The Martyrs faught for the truth. Modernism and secularism are the poisons of choice today. Satan will gladly give this glass of "kool-aid " to whoever is thirsty and he disguises it in the chalice of humanism. We should worry about the poor refugees, even if they rape and murder and disrupt our economy. We should worry about the planet and global warming / cooling ,even though these planetary changes have gone on for millions of years. We should think about all of those poor Muslims and be kind and accepting, as they stab us in the back and take over the world, as the free masons are trying to do. The Church Fathers have a lot to say about these topics. Yes , we need to, as Catholics, be forgiving and welcome those who want to convert, but Jesus admittedly rebukes those that reject him. He says that you are either with me or against me. If you are lukewarm, I will vomit you out of my mouth. Now, we always behave loving and kind and help our fellow man in need. But our fellow man should not openly spit in the face of Jesus. We are to have nothing to do with that type of man. When Abraham asked God what to do about Hagar and Ishmael, God said to send them into exile and never have anything to do with them again. Their behavior was vile in the eyes of the Lord. Jesus knows our heart. That is why the good thief on the cross is in heaven. Jesus knew the heart of the evil thief. Jesus could have tried to "convert" him, but he knew the man would not listen. Jesus taught the apostles, when you go into a city, and the people refuse to listen, leave that place and shake the dust from your sandles. We have to understand that, unfortunately, there are many that will not accept The truth of Jesus. Yes, the Church is going through a tough time and many blame Vatican ll. Well, you have to remember. .... The gates of hell will not prevail against His Church. So, please, never leave the Chair of Peter. There are those in Schism because they left the Chair of Peter and the Roman rite. They think we are in Schism because we follow a Pope that is very off balance with a lot of stuff he says and does. They say he is a heretic. Well, that may be so, but we still have to accept him as the direct successor of Peter. Even if the novas ordo mass is corrupt, we have to go. Jesus knows our hearts and he knows we are suffering. I'd go to a traditional Mass if I had one, as long at it was in line with the Pope and the Roman rite. Vatican ll did not eliminate the traditional Mass, as some would like you to think. The modernists and secularists want everything more protestantized as to not offend new converts. That's their excuse. But, really, it's the homosexual agenda and the free masonic agenda that are ruling us now and this is what we have to fight. Fight as Saint Maximilian Kolbe did. Fight as the Martyrs did. May Our Mother Mary help us!
The free masonic influence is so strong in France and many countries. In Holland, some wicked bishops asked the Vatican ( that's right, a country cannot decide on certain things themselves, they have to get permission from the Vatican ) if Communion could be given in the hand. Well the Vatican said no not once but twice. And said Bishops replied back well the people are already doing it. And well of course that is only because said Wicked Bishops allowed this. So the Vatican said they would have to create a special rule for this which they agreed to do. This special rule is called and indult. So the Vatican said number one you have to have a two-thirds majority vote amongst your Bishops and number two you have to have the situation where the people are already doing this. Well other countries wanted to get on the bandwagon with this so some American Bishops also petitioned for this indult. And illegally the American Bishops recruited the retired Bishops to be in on the vote otherwise they would not have had the two-thirds majority vote. So after this the American Bishops said okay everybody we can now give communion in the hand but they directly disobeyed the Vatican because they did not follow the second rule of the indult. The American people were not I repeat we're not already doing this. So as a good and faithful Catholic you would think that we would all want to receive the body and blood of Jesus Christ in the manner in which he would want us to. The Manor that he wants from us is on the tongue while kneeling. I do know the history of this and yes there was a time. When the Eucharist was accepted in the hand but each individual person receiving communion had a small Corporal in their hand and the Holy Eucharist was placed on this cloth and the person put it up to their mouth and ate it. This was a time of experimenting and learning and figuring out how to do this. And yes of course there was pieces of the precious Eucharist that were dropped and crumbs went all over and over time it was decided that it was best to give it on the tongue. You cannot use the excuse that Jesus gave it to the apostles in their hand. Jesus was instituting the priesthood. The priest and the deacons hands are anointed and should be the only ones allowed to touch the Holy Eucharist. There is a very large abuse in today's Church in regards to the use of extraordinary Eucharistic ministers. You should read the document : Redemptionis Sacramentum. It explains many of the abuses in the litergy of the Most Holy Eucharist and more in regards to the Eucharist. Also, there are many abuses in the parishes today that go directly against the Roman missile. So, you can be very specific and Google these things and read the articles. The only thing is that online, there are a lot of atheists and protestants that want to bash the Catholic Faith, so you have to ignore those articles. But even if it is a good article, the bashers may be in the comments section. But I like to read the comments if I can because so many Catholics give such good answers to things. Michael Voris is very knowledgeable but is disliked by the modernistic crowd and the homosexual agenda people. ( I mean the wicked homosexual group that refuses to repent and are in control of the Church ). Michael Voris speaks very harshly but so did The Most Venerable Archbishop Fulton J Sheen. Michael speaks direct and to the point. Look up what was wrong with Vatican ll and you will see things that simply DO NOT MAKE SENSE! !!! Well, as good and Faithful Catholics, we have a right to know the truth. Many Google articles or RU-vid videos will show the truth about the Catholic Church but some of these folks have left the Chair of Peter and the Roman rite. They are in Schism. They think we are in Schism because we follow the pope. Anyway, don't listen when they say not to go to Mass if it is novas ordo. But their articles and videos are very informative. One of these guys is named Brother Peter Diamond. But, also listen to Cardinal Arinze and cardinal Burke. They are in the Vatican and are very knowledgeable and speak out on the abuses in the church. A priest that tries to teach you that hell is empty or does not exist,...... well, that goes against the Bible and against the teaching of the Catholic Church. In more than one of the "Church approved " Marian private revelations, Mary says that women do not belong on the alter at all and especially a woman should never handle the Eucharist. There is just so much information out there and some people may even tell you to not look online. You will become so sad or angry. Well Jesus does not want us to be ignorant either. The Church Fathers have a lot to say about fighting for the Faith. Also, we have a duty and a right to call out any clergy if they are going against the teaching of the Catholic Church. If the clergy, all the way up to the Pope is teaching heresies, we do not have to obey them. The Church Fathers have a lot to say about this. Mary help us!
Yet Job was RIGHT to call into question a presumed authority that has NOT been shown to flow from this god being the 'creator'. You can repeat this presumption over and over again, but that makes it no less flimsy. Indeed... what makes ANYTHING an "authority"? The only reasonable basis for such can be found under pragmatic, democratic power relationships... and this god is by no means accountable in that manner.
I love you Father Barron, but his explaination is gobbledygook. What he is saying is that if you "truely" understand the Chruch from within and its fundamentals you will fall into line on those external issues. So you can be a Catholic and disagree with teachings of the Chruch, but you will be wrong.
First of all, the complete versicle: "No one has ever seen God. The only Son, God, who is at the Father's side, has revealed him." And another thing, yes! Read John 6, you will find your answer there.
What a total let down by Barron, totally did not answer the question at all, but this is what he does for so many of his topics, he skirts around the issue, fills the response with a lot of intellectual yabba yabba ( he is immensely clever, well read and an intellect no doubt) and ends up not addressing the issue... yes yes we all know what the church is about and all the headings he mentioned for us all to be aware of, immerse ourselves in and study and understand...but then there are still the issues.... when so many young and desperate people look to him for answers in this difficult time, this sort of response is nothing less then you would expect from an overblown ego centred school teacher.....I used to be devoted follower of Bishop Barron, but realise his heart and soul have not entered into this generations worries and issues within the church...Father James Martin on the other hand, is my absolute hero in the Catholic world...here is a man breaking barriers and smashing down walls in an antiquated institute run by men who judge the world through their interpretations of the bible....as a Gay Catholic man, and someone who has such a deep love of God, of Christ, of the Lords mother, Father Martin has given me and my partner hope, showed us that love is ours as well and that we are not pushed aside by God.
I think I was quite clear that I was not trolling. You should read, and read thoroughly, Chris. I am not fighting with you. I just don't share your views.
Okay...So I'm one of these Catholics. I am okay with birth control, I believe gay people should be allowed to get married, I am okay with premarital sex. Does that not make me Catholic anymore?
Why was Judas corrupt? Individuals have always been. The Church teaches truth. Judas being corrupt didn't lead to the entire church being corrupt, nor did it lead to the Bible being corrupt. What changed today, or in Luther's day?
It's free, go talk to the local priest. Don't rant and rave, don't accuse him of being a ped. Ask how on follows God fully in this life, then do so. Regularly participate in God-given Sacraments. Pray regularly. Help others.
Hello. A thought to consider. Do you call the male parent from whom you descended father? If Jesus literally meant not to call any man father, then you cannot call your male parent father. Also, Paul refers to himself as a father to the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 4:15. If Jesus literally meant to call no man father, I don't believe that Paul would encourage the practice by referring to himself as being a father in his letter to the early Christians.
1.) i didnt say they shouldnt pay 'more.' i said (more or less) that they shouldnt pay a higher percentage. either have a flat tax, or drop income tax altogether. our current system is unjust. 2.) feel free to volunteer for the mars colonizing effort.
Agreeing with Christ means being within the True Church and obeying. Costume holy men, suit wearing charlatans, and 'just lord, i just ask, just help me"
Of course, the bishops will say things like, "we must exercise the preferential option of the poor," but then turn their backs on that in vocal support of pro-life politicians (which amounts to a negation of the original position). This doesn't apply to all priests and bishops, but it does tend to be a devastating trend throughout the country. I know a lot of people who are vehemently against abortion and gay marriage, but voted for Obama because Romney was so blatantly ignorant to the poor.
no one has said 'catholics' cant evaluate church teaching. they 'ought to' in fact. but do they have the courage to leave if they dont agree with it? often the answer is no. they live the life of hypocrites instead, throwing rocks at a church they dont really agree with, while professing to be a member...odd.
Would Romney have reversed Roe v. Wade? If a Journalist goes to Cuba, does that make him a Communist? These are simple yes-or-no questions. Until this point, you've effectively dodged both of them.
Degrees of sin. 1994 catechism of the catholic church. Look up pg.454,#1854 / pg.456,#1862 / pg.456,#1861 / Also see pg,264,#1014 / pg,269,#1033 / pg.270,#1035 / pg,270,#1037. Now look at God's word. 1 John3:4 / Romans3:23 / Romans 6:23 / Hebrews 10:12 / Colossians 1:14 / Matthew 26:28 / Hebrews 10:17 / 1 Corinthians 15:3. They do not agree.
