The knocking does not bother me as much as when I lift off at high revs. Terrible sound! Sounds like sandpaper on metal. Otherwise, no issues. If I were to do it again, I'd keep my flywheel or buy a kit with a dual mass. I don't track the car.
An SMF gives you some audible chatter which sounds weird especially in a quiet unmodded car when you first hear it, but it offers plenty of performance over a DMF. The biggest thing that sometimes forgotten is if you upgrade your car for performance there's no upgraded option for the DMF. As many people find out a DMF can fail with a totally stock granny driven car, YMMV.
I know this is way late, but regarding a mk7 GTI, the Sachs Performance DM flywheel is heavier duty than stock. They used to sell 2 versions, now I see only one...I understand the one sold now is just the "HD" version. But it is the only aftermarket option...
fredy gump Not sure if you are making a statement or asking a question. If it's the later than my rebuttal would be to look a bit more into the aftermarket before just settling for the least option. ECS Tuning among quite a few other big name companies produce plenty of clutch kits depending on how much you are willing to pay to play. Consider it toke me less than a minute to find the first kit on my phone I'd imagine with some dedicated Googling many of the other companies would be available to browse their wares in short time. A VW, GTI especially are extremely popular with a very large aftermarket following, of course if you are looking for something specific that might take longer to pan out. Best regards.
Thanks for the detailed explanation, when you say knocking with a single mass flywheel, do you mean when you release the clutch? Or do you mean knocking in general? I have a knocking or clicking sound in lower gears when releasing the clutch and I was wondering if it's just the flywheel engaging between the motor and the gearbox. You think this is something to worry about. It happens especially if I release the clutch quickly.
With the flywheels, is there any risk of engine damage with the single mass? I read that sometimes a dual mass flywheel is designed as a harmonic balancer. And I found some Porsche guys complaining that they couldn't get their engines fixed under warranty because of damage caused by changing the flywheel to a single mass. But I didn't find much information.
I had heard something similar regarding DMF versus SMF. Here's one response the explains how DMF reduces shock to your drivetrain (outer flywheel absorbs shock): www.torquecars.com/tuning/dmf-solid-flywheel.php
Thanks, great video, i bought a 99 VW Jetta, as a 2nd car for a run about, the car engine has been rebuilt, but will not go into 5th gear, but when release the clutch it makes a winding noise, i adjusted the linkage and 5th gear was 4th and 4th gear was 5th, but still having the winding noise when releasing clutch, what do u think, maybe flywheel, and if so which is best dual or single. Thanks.
@@dannyhampton wow thanks for the quick feedback dude! This reply did it. I'm going to go with a Spec stage 3 as well. It looks like it's $70 more than stage 2+ but for the peace of mind of 30 more ft lb torque it seems worth it. Thanks again!
Good points on the pros and con. I replaced the stock Golf R clutch with a SouthBend Stage 2. I’ve read where DKM makes quieter clutches. MR Clutch kits? Do you concur? Any others - HS Tuning’s RSR?
I have a DKM stage-2 single mass Daily on my '17 MK7 GTI. If those are considered more quiet I'd HATE to hear the SB! It is mated to a Unitronic stage-1+ tune. I have about 25k on both and have held up flawlessly with the clutch really putting the power down, but at idle and low rpm 1-2-3 gear engagement it sounds like a Peterbuilt. Have learned to kinda-sorta live with it but is still an annoying.
How much can a mk6 gti rods can actually hold.about a year ago i ordered apr gtx2867r stage 3 kit and built the cylinder head with +1mm valves and i havent had the courage to get it set up out of fear of harming the engine.
I have a question! So I’m torn between keeping my mk2 Audi TT or just buying another car. If I keep the TT I would like to do a k04 swap, however my car has 69k miles and I’m worried it’s too old for the added power. I’ve kept up with all the maintenance and it runs perfectly at stage 2. How far can my TT go with a K04 swap without running into issues? I daily my car and love to drive it fast, however I’m not drag racing it or redlining it every time. Just need an extra boost of power to feel it more alive.
Probably its late now, but depending on engine code, if it has forged rods you can push it to 300hp no problem. 180hp versions usually get unsafe with high torque, and with an aggressive map they can bend rods pretty easy, so if you dont want the hussle of rod swap, you can still put a k04 on but when you take the car to be tuned take it to a place that have experience with 1.8ts and tell them that you are on stock rods so they gonna map it to a safe level. My 1.8t auq is at 100k+ miles and im planning a k04 swap as my old 03s is on its way out
While driving (entering expressway) engine went dead, shut off w/no noises or trouble lights showing on dash board. It has 108000 miles on odometer. Dealer thought it may be broken timing belt. Is this a catastrophic damage situation or worth repairing?
jwhite7621 think about it.. every time you pop that clutch the dual masses are slapping into each other. Smack smack... crack! So yeah.. single mass is better for that..
It seems so too. The DMF causes less noise because it is absorbing shock vibrations (not smooth crank spinning), if not absorbed, these punches will hit the gearbox directly, which was designed to have a DMF protecting it, and will get damaged overtime. Yeah the single mass will last more, but the engine and gearbox will last less and cost even more to repair, because the dual mass takes the hits itself to keep the engine and transmission healthy, hence why it lasts less. The idea that I took is: -> If you don't care about the car and are planning to getting rid of it in the near future, you can save 200 bucks on a cheaper single mass. It will also vibrate more and become noisy. -> If you want your car to last and give you less troubles, invest on a dual mass, it survives 250000 kilometers anyway and protects your gearbox/transmission and engine from rotational punches. "There are no free lunches". To save somewhere, you end up paying somewhere else event more. Like trying to save some bucks by not changing your oil or using low quality oil, it will bring you bigger and costlier problems.
For that first question.. I've got the same question, so I am researching DMF, and what is called Dual-mass flywheel with centrifugal pendulum absorber... I have a 01 Jetta TDI engine in my vanagon, and am looking to install a DMF on my 091 4spd with lsd/locker. I'm wondering if there are any differences in the Sachs, LUK, etc models.. and which is the best. There some great AUDI TV (sponsored video?), ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YRxrajJCLr0.html that clearly talks about why you'd not want to convert, or risk damage to your tranny due to pulsing of a low RPM FI, or TDI.