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In The Netherlands stands one of the world's biggest drivers of technological progress: ASML. It supplies machines that make chips on a scale of just a few nanometers. And the world is crying out for chips.
ASML makes the most advanced machine in the world; the lithography machine to make computer chips. And with chips as a strategic asset, ASML and its machine are at the center of the world geo-political stage. What is ASML's secret, and who are the people who build this wondrous machine?
VPRO Backlight gained access to the ins and outs of the high-tech company and followed a number of employees. Due to the high demand for chips, chip manufacturers are expanding rapidly. ASML also has to scale up at the same pace. The company hires a hundred new employees every week and tries to attract technical talent from all over the world to Veldhoven.
At the same time, ASML has become a geopolitical plaything, due to the global shortage of chips and the dominance that chip production entails. How is this outside pressure having an impact inside ASML's walls?
Directed by Kees Brouwer
Research: Arnout Arens
Editing: Jouke Dubel
Production: Marie Schutgens
Final editing: Doke Romeijn, Geert Rozinga
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@masoudsiddiqi2403
@masoudsiddiqi2403 Год назад
As some who works for ASML, I love the tech and the people I work with. They are very smart and the tech is unbelievable advance. Proud to be ASML employee.
@guilldea
@guilldea Год назад
Could you give some insight in how to land a job at ASML? Thank you :)
@masoudsiddiqi2403
@masoudsiddiqi2403 Год назад
​@@guilldea try to apply for service engineering position or install/upgrade engineer which we call is URI (uninstall, Relocate and install). it requires a lot of travelling. Best wishes
@guilldea
@guilldea Год назад
@@masoudsiddiqi2403 Thank you! Will do :)
@JoeRichardRules
@JoeRichardRules Год назад
Thank you for what you do
@mariansirbu867
@mariansirbu867 Год назад
Excuse me please, what exactly does each letter in this ASML name mean??? Thanks in advance for your answer
@redhidinghood9337
@redhidinghood9337 Год назад
This is absolutely insane. Such an honor for the journalist team being able to get into the plant, and for us viewers to see it as well
@abelashenafi6291
@abelashenafi6291 Год назад
Just applied for a job at ASML after watching this video. What an Amazing company
@konstantinboev7018
@konstantinboev7018 Год назад
hope you get the job ^^
@abelashenafi6291
@abelashenafi6291 Год назад
@@konstantinboev7018 Thank YOU for your kind wishes.
@masoudsiddiqi2403
@masoudsiddiqi2403 Год назад
Welcome to ASML. Great company to work for. ASML CSE :)
@abelashenafi6291
@abelashenafi6291 Год назад
@@masoudsiddiqi2403 Thanks but they replied they got a better candidate. I was applying for an Embedded Systems position. I'll try next time. Thanks for your support though
@YangwanAuto
@YangwanAuto Год назад
I am happy you did NOT got that job!! No to islamic racist and homophobic bye bye
@TrggrWarning
@TrggrWarning Год назад
Europe needs more of this. Good job!
@kyks6771
@kyks6771 Год назад
Respect..the company, the work, the culture, the CEO & VP with their thinking, their values reflected, humbleness & pride🚀🎶
@vinzent1992
@vinzent1992 Год назад
7:30 I absolutely love how well he explains how a computer works in the simplest terms which everyone can understand, while being clear and concise. I'm an electrical engineer and when people ask me such questions I just give up because I know that they will be sleeping before I'm done explaining.
@scarfo441
@scarfo441 Год назад
That's the mark of a real teacher..
@mprkayew4286
@mprkayew4286 Год назад
The genius of the Dutch. Such an amazing company with the future of the World in its hands. Thanks for a great insight into this unique company
@ssotkow
@ssotkow 8 месяцев назад
Over 120 countries are represented at ASML. Vital components used by ASML's EUV/DUV lithography machines are based in the States and abroad. Yes, this Dutch company relies on outsourcing global suppliers too, despite being a critical supplier of Samsung, TSMC, and Intel.
@bouchechhamdi816
@bouchechhamdi816 Год назад
When i was in the Netherlands, they were hiring 200 new employees per month, crazy.
@andrewbellinger6120
@andrewbellinger6120 Год назад
amazing that people who speak Klingon have such advanced technology
@dalsenov
@dalsenov Год назад
You are very biased.
@PatrickBatefan
@PatrickBatefan Год назад
😂
@aguzman222
@aguzman222 Год назад
thank you - can't stop laughing :)😆😆
@paullb2440
@paullb2440 Год назад
“I would leave a company with those values right away”….I know the Dutch are famously direct but that was unnecessarily confrontational.
@j121212100
@j121212100 Год назад
Throughout history the Netherlands has always been on the leading edge of optics.
@George-nc4yc
@George-nc4yc 4 месяца назад
I wish to thank the extraordinary litho team at ASML and the people that made this presentation. I have seen miracles in my time!
@sirog
@sirog Год назад
Great documentary. And chapeau to the Dutch for taking care of such a gold mine in such a professional way.
@VendettaProspecting
@VendettaProspecting 10 месяцев назад
miriam is stunning
@CALCOBRA94
@CALCOBRA94 Год назад
Wow the amount of talented gifted intelligent and young ASML employees!! Mind blowing 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
@daspec
@daspec Год назад
This is not a documentary for hi-tech, its a 1-hour long invitation for nerds to go and work at nerd paradise! ^_^
@Birch37
@Birch37 Год назад
The 'Heading' says ASML Number 1 Chip maker? They don't make semiconductors at all. They make the machines.
@user-zr6hb2ky4v
@user-zr6hb2ky4v Месяц назад
That's exactly why I clicked on the video to just write this
@robertpearson8546
@robertpearson8546 Год назад
The best feedback to the designers is from the assembly techs. They are the first to see a problem.
@The8224sm
@The8224sm 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for a great presentation. In a way, the world revolves around ASML and TSMC, these two companies are the seed from which our society grows.
@JigilJigil
@JigilJigil 10 месяцев назад
Not really, the world would be fine without TSMC, but without Intel and AMD it would be a different scenario, plus you can make chips without ASML but you can't make chips without Applied Materials, there are many fabs in the world without any ASML equipment in them but you can't find a single fab in the world without Applied Materials equipment.
@HawkinsOkeyoEng
@HawkinsOkeyoEng Год назад
@16:08 it is either she misspoke or the translator was lost in translation. To correct it: "the tin is fired at by the laser at 50,000 per second" and not per day.
@arizonawut
@arizonawut 4 месяца назад
The reporter said he would leave a company right away if their values were “challenge, collaborate, care”😂😂😂 Dude sounds like a real winner…
@platin2148
@platin2148 Год назад
And there isn’t really a single company in Europe who buys these machines that isn’t actually a US,Tawain,China based company. Or wait there is BOSCH.
@atanacioluna292
@atanacioluna292 Год назад
Amazing! This is one of the most amazing videos I have seen in a while. Thanks for a fun tour of this esoteric world.
@stanleychukwu7424
@stanleychukwu7424 Год назад
wow!!! I watched every single seconds of this video and I'm proud of humans like this! I'm also inspired!
@dawid4190
@dawid4190 Год назад
14:50 - "putting a man on the man" - from a technological standpoint, is indeed really hard thing to perform
@robertprawendowski2850
@robertprawendowski2850 Год назад
Accuracy of ASML machines is truly impressive. There are no real competitors for them ob the global market. Its interesting that they are indispensable for a global supply of semicontuctors. Chip Market is dominanted by companies from America and Asia, but europeans still deal cards, especially in that niche.
@dianapennepacker6854
@dianapennepacker6854 Год назад
Carl Ziess ‐ makes the insane mirrors used by ASLM is an other important manufacturer in Germany. Not sure if anyone else can do it.
@JigilJigil
@JigilJigil Год назад
@@dianapennepacker6854 There are a bunch of other companies both in Europe and US capable of making similar mirrors, they are not the hardest part.
@pratyushgolecha7941
@pratyushgolecha7941 10 дней назад
This is simply brilliant. Thank you for bringing this up and sharing. It is a privilege to view such a marvel of our generation.
@JN.0711
@JN.0711 6 месяцев назад
27:19 The Light Source is made by Trumpf in Germany, they produce the Laser who shoots the tin drops
@JigilJigil
@JigilJigil 4 месяца назад
No, the Light Source is designed and made by Cymer in US, the laser is designed by Cymer as well and is built by Trumpf in Germany.
@krampfkeks7737
@krampfkeks7737 5 месяцев назад
thank you for this wonderful documentary! also thanks to asml and its people to show us, what kind of magic they are able to do. i‘ve heard about this company and its essential technology, but never really knew what they do. now i have a profound understanding of their work and am highly inspired by their philosophy and professional culture. please keep documentaries like these coming!
@CALCOBRA94
@CALCOBRA94 Год назад
Man they speaking a different level of language. I can not wrap my head around this very complicated machine. This ppl are VERY GIFTED. My GOD.
@CALCOBRA94
@CALCOBRA94 Год назад
What do they see in those ENGINEERS EYES as they gazed upon the unfinished product???
@maxxlindley9425
@maxxlindley9425 Год назад
as always, your documentaries are so well done , and I learn so much ...
@altduarte2252
@altduarte2252 2 месяца назад
This is the best documentary about ASML that I have seen. Congratulations to all the people that produced it.
@JimFeig
@JimFeig Год назад
Can you also do a video on their optics supplier? They are another interesting and critical part of the chip supply chain.
@jackinsonpablanes760
@jackinsonpablanes760 Год назад
really? Can you elaborate on that?
@OscarGonzalez-qm9qw
@OscarGonzalez-qm9qw 10 месяцев назад
@@jackinsonpablanes760 I think it is called zeiss. It is a german company. DW has a documentary on them.
@boombot934
@boombot934 Год назад
Beautiful example of cooperation this company is👍!
@mariotobias5918
@mariotobias5918 Год назад
ASML: We always have to assume there are spies. ASML: Uses Thinkpad for their computers.
@BraveNewWorldSH
@BraveNewWorldSH Год назад
Or what? Use Macs that are built in China?
@Crazy--Clown
@Crazy--Clown 11 месяцев назад
Cheap
@FaultyGlitch
@FaultyGlitch Год назад
This is amazing its breathtaking how far humanity has come and what we have developed it's mind blowing how these machines are even made.
@CUMBICA1970
@CUMBICA1970 Год назад
It's so shocking to learn that there are still technologies that can't be copied not for lack of fund but lack of, well, technology. Take that google!
@windmill1965
@windmill1965 Год назад
Mooie documentaire VPRO! Een plezier om naar te kijken.
@trevortherefinegroup
@trevortherefinegroup Год назад
Absolutely incredible company and a brilliant documentary about them! I appreciate that the team covered such a wide range of subjects, from founding, to leadership, obviously technology, culture and more 👏
@MarcinMoka1
@MarcinMoka1 Год назад
These are such brilliant, fascinating people. Respect!!!
@pikadumonde8389
@pikadumonde8389 Год назад
Leuk dat je toch ook nog Nederlands hoort spreken naast het Engels in een wereldklasse bedrijf.
@abirroy1333
@abirroy1333 Год назад
Creating chips for machines that creates chips Now that's recursion!
@paulkazibacharles
@paulkazibacharles Год назад
Breathtaking technology indeed. Thank you
@tydolla1539
@tydolla1539 Год назад
I hate how the interviewer rudely interrupts with his very SMALL THINKING mindset! The CEO was about to drop some gems…
@whatslifespurpose
@whatslifespurpose Год назад
Best workplace during covid pandemic!
@LeonidAndrianov
@LeonidAndrianov Год назад
Awesome documentary about tech! The creators managed to make it well-balanced and engaging, thank you! 👏I graduated as microelectronics engineer (with honors, btw) and still remember the old-school process of chip- and PCB- making. Technologies has gone so far now... A remarkable moment at 44:33 - Challenge, Collaboration and Care - looks like CEO truly believes in it, and that resonates to me. Folks, I would add Curiosity and let's explore Mars together!🙃Space, nuclear energy, AI, advanced tech - shall be peaceful domains for the sake of humanity.
@antelectric8554
@antelectric8554 Год назад
Just mind blowing. ✅
@yellowChupacabra
@yellowChupacabra 9 месяцев назад
There would still be chips without ASML, just not the ones that depend on EUV
@fajnalowiec
@fajnalowiec Год назад
awesome piece of documentary, a cool place to work :)
@henrikmidteng9593
@henrikmidteng9593 Год назад
Great documentary!! The Dutch are smart people!!!!
@18890426
@18890426 Год назад
are you??
@ricerob
@ricerob Год назад
There's no contrast on the subtitles they can't be read didn't you prove this before you posted it or called it finished why not a voice over instead of subtitles
@lupuszzz
@lupuszzz Год назад
15:18: The most ingenious people in the world work here. It won't be long before they discover the principles of length measurements and parallelism.
@Pezii4u
@Pezii4u Год назад
thx for the awesome and informative Documentary... I love to get an tour of an awesome Company like ASML :)
@adrienforbu5165
@adrienforbu5165 Год назад
Congrats to the dutch !
@LouisFobb-zs9hv
@LouisFobb-zs9hv Месяц назад
Fantastic!
@nothingiswritten1
@nothingiswritten1 Год назад
If you want to see a great short video on how the EV Lithograph actually works, look up: 'The Extreme Physics Pushing Moore’s Law to the Next Level'
@naifongkoh6953
@naifongkoh6953 Год назад
Insane Engineering!!
@kaisersozajunior8650
@kaisersozajunior8650 10 месяцев назад
This is the most complex piece of machinery ever invented. It's mind boggling
@johnruuu
@johnruuu 9 месяцев назад
That you are aware of.
@ishboo313
@ishboo313 4 месяца назад
Omg this is my dream job! A Electrical Engineers dream. Thank you for sharing,
@robertpearson8546
@robertpearson8546 Год назад
Machines have their own personality. At TI they had an IC test machine that hated me. I would walk in, smell burning electronics, and log it out to maintenance. Maintenance would find nothing wrong and log it back in. This went on and on until the ground strap on the machine melted. A colleague would use the machine for 4 hours. I would walk into the room, and it would immediately go down. TI finally hired a technician for me so I did not have to go into that room.
@YangwanAuto
@YangwanAuto Год назад
Lol no
@rickghaly
@rickghaly Год назад
Wow! That installation "owner". Rock star. 👏
@kurandsmapagmahal.t.v
@kurandsmapagmahal.t.v 5 месяцев назад
Never forget about safety. Use Softgle Comfort
@timeamkane2096
@timeamkane2096 Год назад
I'm sad the CT, USA plant was not mentioned here, we build a big portion of the machine and have a huge D&E presence
@Erik-gg2vb
@Erik-gg2vb Год назад
What is the CT, USA plant? I think the tin droplet assembly is made in Sad Diego.
@timeamkane2096
@timeamkane2096 Год назад
@@Erik-gg2vb it's in Wilton, CT amd we make half the machine there
@YangwanAuto
@YangwanAuto Год назад
​@@timeamkane2096 CT???
@dalsenov
@dalsenov Год назад
I read that ASML has around 800 collaborators.They acknowledged here they are an integrator. Obviously they didn't mention every collaborator or supplier that make the ecosystem. There's no point in doing this!
@JigilJigil
@JigilJigil Год назад
@@dalsenov The technology originally was developed by US National labs and American private companies, EUV light source, the most critical part and also the most complicated part of the EUV system comes form an American company, it's not like those suppliers that supply valves or wires.
@JohnSanchezooDrumrBoi
@JohnSanchezooDrumrBoi Год назад
friends in portland :-)
@denni_isl1894
@denni_isl1894 Год назад
ASML secret is probably networking. Btw. this is one of the best video I have seen on youtube.
@CatFish107
@CatFish107 Год назад
"Already has to walk 20 minutes in high heels to get to her office" Bravo. Gripping writing here. Glad you took the time to bring us such insights.
@p__jay
@p__jay Год назад
whats your problem? they only highlighted that it is a huge complex where they work!
@9HighFlyer9
@9HighFlyer9 Год назад
It probably sounded/meant different in Dutch before it was translated.
@chefnyc
@chefnyc Год назад
The industry stopped using imperial system for the wafers. They don’t call it 12”, they call it 300mm. Being a European channel I would expect to see more metric system in the videos. Also it took a while for this channel to make a video about the single most industry in the world which happens to be Dutch.
@apexaviour
@apexaviour Год назад
l guess they are "a relatively obscure company" 😉 hence why it took them a while. As far as errors, I'm pretty sure there's no NXE:3400-"D" machine (only B and C). And the English subtitles wrote "EV" instead of EUV and High-NA as "HNE". Minor errors, I won't hold it against them 🙂
@MagicBoterham
@MagicBoterham Год назад
These videos are paid for by Dutch tax payers and region locked. They're intended for the world market. VPRO makes money off of the ads. I am commenting via VPN.
@Andrew-rc3vh
@Andrew-rc3vh Год назад
In China they call them 12". I suppose in the EU it is the regs. There is a law about that. You can't sell half a pound of butter either.
@user-pe7rb6ji3o
@user-pe7rb6ji3o 2 месяца назад
amazed to see what company my uncle build up
@user-rl1hv3rd9g
@user-rl1hv3rd9g 11 месяцев назад
ASML, the fantastic 👍
@rally_furymoments5294
@rally_furymoments5294 Год назад
Why are they all using ThinkPad?
@uku4171
@uku4171 Год назад
9:55 making a 20 minute walk sound like a big deal.
@USABESTMBA.COM-NEWS
@USABESTMBA.COM-NEWS Год назад
Nice video 📹
@msmunir2012
@msmunir2012 Год назад
Amazing Dutch...
@darkpenguin1978
@darkpenguin1978 Месяц назад
The works has been divided among players in semi conductor industry, today ASML alone and unique in pole position came from that choice. Blockage doesn't meant competition, to slow China rise is the reason why ASML is under the lights
@c123bthunderpig
@c123bthunderpig 7 месяцев назад
Interesting that this video was made a year ago. How quick marketing status chanegs :-)
@alexlabs4858
@alexlabs4858 Год назад
I live in a US town that will be building a $100B chip factory. Will be interesting to see how the town changes.
@Crazy--Clown
@Crazy--Clown 11 месяцев назад
Yes, more meth labs
@conradtrinh6470
@conradtrinh6470 3 дня назад
I doubt any success unless lot Asian Chinese vietnamese immigrants Chinatown Asian town nearby like bay area Silicone valley California or Texas Houston.
@kennyycy
@kennyycy Год назад
Interesting, the CEO of ASML has a picture of Hong Kong’s Victoria Harbor on his office wall. I wonder did the interview team had a chance to ask what’s the connection between the boss and Hong Kong. 🤔 Fascinated to learn more.
@franciscovarela7127
@franciscovarela7127 Год назад
“without ASML there are no chips” Hyperbole. Not to take anything away from ASML as it builds the most advanced EUV lithography machines that are used by companies like TSMC to fab incredibly powerful transistor packed chips. However other vendors, e.g. Nikon, build litho machines albeit at a generation or more behind ASML’s tech. There certainly would be “chips” without ASML.
@JigilJigil
@JigilJigil 11 месяцев назад
Yes, I think Applied Materials is the one more in that position, you can certainly make chips without ASML but you cannot make chips without Applied Materials, as they are the key manufacturer of many of the equipment in every fab.
@usmanrolibi7050
@usmanrolibi7050 Год назад
I love science
@sleepEasy2
@sleepEasy2 Год назад
It's not the chinese but the Taiwanese under attack like Japanese hitachi and toshiba in 80s. This will get interesting real soon lol
@GordonEngels
@GordonEngels Год назад
! great
@fowfowfow8363
@fowfowfow8363 Год назад
At 16:07, it's 50000 times a second.
@tronghungdao251
@tronghungdao251 Год назад
GENIUS KEEP IT'S UP HOllAND❤❤❤😅🤩😅👍👌👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@marlbankian
@marlbankian Год назад
Interesting
@omaryounis9113
@omaryounis9113 Год назад
the semiconductors considered from the solid state physics ... from the brave iraq 🇮🇶
@kurodetski
@kurodetski 4 месяца назад
Nice
@warmesuppe
@warmesuppe Год назад
@vpro documentary At 14:54 it should probably mean man on the moon.
@JohnDobak
@JohnDobak Год назад
49:07 *Gothic Chanting Intensifies**
@Castorp-wn7dh
@Castorp-wn7dh Год назад
"There's only one company in the world that can make it: ASML in Veldhoven". This will, of course, eventually change, like with every other product in the world.
@guenthermichaels5303
@guenthermichaels5303 Год назад
Outstanding financials. Sales doubled in 4 years. Net profit after taxes is same as Apple 25%.
@robertpearson8546
@robertpearson8546 Год назад
ASML needs highly technical people that are also highly creative. At Texas Instruments, my group had 24 "engineers". Only 2 bothered to read the free technical material. Only 1 read Research and Design Magazine. Who needs an X-ray mirror. Who needs a walnut-sized laser gyroscope. No one would ever want a more efficient X-ray laser for Lasic surgery. No one would ever want a 3-D mouse that tracks in 3 dimensions. At Abbott Laboratories they tried to hire 3 engineers to do the production design for an infusion pump based on a prototype from a famous west-coast "engineering company". Bryan did the mechanical engineering and I did the electrical and software engineering. They gave us specifications for size¸ weight, battery life, and cost. The time allowed was 6 months. We threw out the junk from the "engineering company". Brian designed a pole clamp. When it came time to test it (it needed to support 100 lb.), I said, “See that hat rack. Put the clamp on that. No. put it near the base.” Then I told my boss, “Now stand on it.” The clamp is rated at 1 project manager. I designed a bubble detector that actually detected bubbles. It used the critical angle of reflection to distinguish air from water. I read about a nutating stepper motor. I called the company. They asked how many do I need. I replied 5000. They choked. I told my boss, “If I decide to use that motor, we should buy the company.” I finally picked a cheap standard motor and designed a driver that gave me 9 times the rated motor performance. I designed the case so that removing 3 screws opened up the entire case for ease of maintenance. My power supply was only 97% efficient. The result was a pump that was half the size, half the weight, had 50% more battery life, and cost ⅓ the specified cost. The board of directors was afraid to put it into production. I terrified managers. I would tell them what I would build. That scared them because they knew it was impossible. Then I delivered what I promised. That scared them even more!
@naydee
@naydee Год назад
You sound like my sil. He’s a software engineer for Magic Leap, who is moving from gaming to real world technical applications. Sometimes I ask him to explain some of the engineering situations the team is working on. My eyes glaze over as he swiftly loses me in his attempt to explain technicalities to me. I’m awed, but lost. I’m so glad guys like you all exist! I was a liberal arts major and I can’t run with y’all.
@aware2action
@aware2action 2 месяца назад
ENIAC was once the supercomputer!. VLSI was impossible before the advent of self aligned gate MOS transistors. Imagine what the future of chip production machinery could be?🤞.
@johnmichaelbenson9060
@johnmichaelbenson9060 Год назад
Miriam should most certainly hit me up...
@JigilJigil
@JigilJigil Год назад
A few things to know: 1 - The EUV technology was developed by United States national laboratories along with some other US-based private companies, and then ASML asked for the permission of the US government to get access to the technology and got involved in the consortium. 2 - ASML acquired the technology from US national labs, also bought a couple of US companies to develop it further. 3 - Cymer (an independent subsidiary of ASML based in California) is the provider of the EUV light source, they design, develop and make the light source which is the main technology in ASML's EUV machines. 4 - Intel has played a major role in helping ASML with the capital and implementation of their technological capabilities to make these machines a reality.
@kalidilerious
@kalidilerious Год назад
I'm surprised there was no mention of the old silcon valley in relation to ASML
@TomaszJegorow
@TomaszJegorow Год назад
Oh yeah, it was developed in the US but the lizard people in your government forbid you to figure out how to manufacture it. Well between "developing" and actually implementing the idea there is a huge difference.
@PerryThePlatypus3
@PerryThePlatypus3 Год назад
ASML stock is a no brainer investment for the next few decades!
@camilkegels3640
@camilkegels3640 Год назад
Sure, but take the geopolitics into account
@PerryThePlatypus3
@PerryThePlatypus3 Год назад
@@camilkegels3640 Right, like I said long term....AMAT is also a good American play on EUV machines.
@mbarrio
@mbarrio Год назад
This is person X, as a little person was like this, and now is like this....
@jonaswox
@jonaswox 2 месяца назад
The only problem is that it is always cheaper and easier to develop a technology the 2nd time around. So the price of being the leader is the massive cost, and it is unavoidable if you want to stay ahead. These inefficiencies will have to be subsidised by the government since absolute cutting edge is the most expensive and inefficient part of R&D. You can only depend on a company like ASML to keep doing so, for so long.
@098765432qwertyuiop
@098765432qwertyuiop Год назад
Well that's one big Ad.
@oscardithejsne4721
@oscardithejsne4721 4 месяца назад
I think extra terrestrial being's wisdom is involved here. This can't be 100% human invention
@sos5455
@sos5455 Год назад
NMMU is in Port Elizabeth
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