Société française de jeux vidéo, Ubisoft: "D'accord, nous devons trouver un doubleur pour l'une des personnes les plus importantes de notre propre histoire française. cet homme est si puissant que nos empereurs ont commencé à voler ce nom uniquement pour la légitimité. L'homme a amené l'ensemble de l'Europe à s'unir 7 fois pour le battre ..... Donnons-lui l'accent des gens qu'il détestait le plus, l'anglais." Ubisoft, interne:"Mais quel type d'accent britannique?" Ubisoft: "Le genre que son ennemi juré Arthur Wellesley, 1er duc de Wellington, aurait eu." For if you drink more tea/cola than wine: French game company, Ubisoft: "Alright we got to get a voice actor for one of the most important people in our own French history. this man's is so powerful that our emperors started stealing this name purely for legitimacy. The man caused the entirety of Europe to unite 7 times to beat him..... Lets give him accent from the people he hated the most, English" Ubisoft, intern: "But what type of British accent?" Ubisoft: "The kind his nemesis Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington, would have had."
I’m getting annoyed with people getting mad when games aren’t in their historical or native language. Like the highest consumer is English speaking Americans and I don’t wanna have to read subtitles while I’m slaying fools.
It's because Napoleon wasn't that huge of an influence at this time. I will admit, for what his role was during this period, I personally think Napoleon was done really well, and they could have done a sequel to Unity that takes place in the Napoleonic Wars.
I see a pattern with works set in the French Revolution that feature Napoleon. He's under utilised, yes, but his presence alone provides a sense of dread and foreboding for what he eventually becomes.
they can afford a actor with a French accent for AC rogue but not for the most iconic Napoleon Bonaparte, future emperor of france? (edit: I don't know why people got to be lecturing me about his accent being Corsican and refusing to elaborate further. if that accent is Corsican, then I'm from Romania.)
JumboCod91 do you not understand what an accent is? Being raised on a language doesn't make you immune from having one. Napoleon was raised speaking French but was still under the Italian influence in Corsican society; he spoke French with an Italian accent. English is not the only damn language with accents, and even if it was, we still have native accents even after being born into a fourth, fifth and so on generation family. Please go talk to a Brit, Pennsylvanian, Canadian, Aussie and a Californian, then try telling us they don't have their own damn accents. In fact, French has native f#%&ing accents too. For example, Occitan in southeastern France.
JumboCod91 okay, well you are illiterate then instead. Because no one at any point said it's impossible to lose an accent. I said that being born into a language doesn't make someone immune from having one.
JumboCod91 my family is from Occitania, in the Rhone-Alps region of Southern France, which in general has been screwed by the Parisian regime since medieval times. They, like Corsica are unjustly forced under a foreign culture, so I sort of take offense to someone claiming Napoleon was or acted "French" in any way. He put the French in their place and taught them about true equality regardless of culture, religion, or birthright; not the empty egalitarianism that the French obsess over to this day..
This autistic accent obsession is really typical of Anglos I'm French, and when I watch a movie/serie..etc that takes place outside of France, I dont give a shit about the characters not having accents. The thing is that their conversation is supposed to occur in their native language (in the case of this video, French) These people are not supposed to have any accent while speaking their native language, so putting it in basic English without foreign accent makes perfect sense. A native English speaker will hear the conversation in his native language without foreign accent, just like it's supposed to be the case for the characters.
+LeHappiste Though I'd prefer if the characters had French accents (Or Italian in Napoleon's case because he never lost his accent after moving to France) because it's more immersive. It doesn't really bother me that they don't have the correct accents. There's plenty of films I've seen that are set in France with all the actors having British accents so I'm used to it enough that it didn't surprise me and you make a very good point, accents probably wouldn't matter much when a language is translated like it is in the animus. So whether they have accents like they did in ac2 or don't like in Unity, either of those is realistic for the game. I just find that ignoring it and enjoying the game stops me from losing any immersion. That said, I'm an 'Anglo' and autism isn't something you should go round using as an insult.
I disagree. I enjoy the accents. Maybe no some first year American theater student trying to fake the accents but perhaps some genuine French accents. It's one step closer to getting the full experience. Sure, I prefer to hear my native language being spoken instead of reading subtitles, but why not go with the accents? It's like replacing all of the food and cultural aspects with their Anglo equivalent. I.e., instead of a croissant we have a doughnut from Dunkin Donuts. It's also not autistic obsession. It's simply personal preference.
Am I the only one who wants an Assassin's Creed game during the Napoleonic wars ? We could visit France, Egypt, Italy and even the Russian countryside, that would be so dope !
Expecially when you'd reach Moscow to see it burning in flames and then retreat from freezing cold with what's left of the Napoleon's army and run straight to Paris
+ThePlayersPlay There are many Apples, each one with a different power. The Apples came from the First Civilization. Go check out the article about in AC wikia.
The stupidity wasn't the invasion, but the manner - if he had made winter quarters in the summer of the invasion much of his army would have survived (despite more than a fifth of the 650 thousand dying from sickness and the like - many from typhus).
I was waiting to see Napoleon in this game. And he didn't disappoint. Only problem was he didn't have enough appearances. They should have found a way to show him more, especially from the Napoleonic Wars until his death. Might be a large focus on a single character, but it is Napoleon after all.
jh44574 Technically he had a Corsican Accent. One of the reasons he was bullied in school was because he barely sounded French at all. Corsicans are technically French Controlled Italians.
I don’t know why, but after seeing the Napoleon movie, I can’t imagine Joaquin Phoenix delivering these lines without stuttering or sounding awkward. This Napoleon is how Ridley Scott should’ve approached the character, as it is more true to the real life Napoleon(minus the English accent)
Minor nerdy correction: The revolution disbanded the rank of marshall, as it was seen as closely intertwined with the monarchy. It was only later after Napoleon was crowned emperor he reinstated the title
As I said to 2 other people now, I love Phoenix AS the Napoleon as he's VERY well casted for the role and perfectly has the right look for a conqueror character to have FOR the character of Napoleon, the main issue that other people have is with the script of the movie FOR how Napoleon, Phoenix did as best as he could but the movie was made to purposefully make Napoleon look like a manchild outside of the trailers and certain other scenes. But I can kinda see where you're coming from but I still like the movie entirely so as it's still masterfully and beautifully directed in a big budget way!
@@HelloThere-pb3cp lol just no, absolutely NOTHING I’ve said here is “sAtIrE” at all as I was being fair and responsible to the film! Just stop with your nonsense here, seriously!
@@BlackHawk2b I don’t blame you for entirely saying that but I don’t know the full history of Napoleon so I can’t argue against what I see in a film that portrays Napoleon as a manchild because I don’t fully know for certain if he didn’t actually act like that behind closed doors. I wouldn’t say it’s “giGa cRinGe” at all nor would I say it’s a “personal hell” at all but just a interesting take on the real life figure. Napoleon HAS lied before for the sake of propaganda like his famous painting on himself on a horse isn’t an accurate portrayal of how he actually looked at all. So I can’t entirely argue against him acting like that in the film because the script IS intentionally written in a way to make Napoleon look bad, that’s a given ESPECIALLY given the contrast from how he’s portrayed in the trailers as a legendary badass conquering figure whose passionate in love making with his wife from how he is in the actual film to a man child whose bratty in some scenes while also making pig noises to announce that he wants have sex with his wife and gets into this awkwardly unromantic sex scene where he tired himself out leaving his wife unsatisfied and making what he does to her look like a chore. You can see this as the movie’s scenes are deliberately different from how he’s portrayed in the film as from the actually trailers. But seeing how I’m NOT a Napoleon expert, I can’t really argue against that kind of portrayal as I’m not entirely sure if he was actually like that, but napoleon is usually seen as this legendary badass in film and media that DOESN’T just portray him as short, it’s going to upset some people who expected him to be just how they imagined to be from the trailers and even in the AC Unity game who portrays him as a calm, confident, and brutally efficient person.
Napoleon's first language was Corsican,second was Italian.He learnt french at a later stage around 10 or more years It caused him to have a distinct accent and be bullied because of his "Italian" accent
"The ideas that underpin our modern world-meritocracy, equality before the law, property rights, religious toleration, modern secular education, sound finances, and so on-were championed, consolidated, codified and geographically extended by Napoleon. To them he added a rational and efficient local administration, an end to rural banditry, the encouragement of science and the arts, the abolition of feudalism and the greatest codification of laws since the fall of the Roman Empire. " -Andrew Roberts, British historian.
I think he knew what it was to begin with, why else would he be there? Plus, he became emporer of france, i'd like to to think the piece of Eden helped him in some way
@@ΔεαΚ Was he supposed to tell him to panic and die off like helpless little chickens? He wasn’t emperor at the time so he couldn’t back out of the Egyptian campaign right away. It wasn’t untill French parliament was very unstable with a kingless monarchy that he was able to return to France and re-establish order form chaos, and become a leader. Can’t blame him on the Egyptian debacle, you must blame the generals and nobility that made him do it after the Italian campaign.
@@ashtonmilkyway”made him do it” bruh Napoleon wanted to do it. It was a waste of time, and turned into a bit of a shitshow. Conveniently, he was able to slip back to France and never have to deal with the consequences. Egypt was definitely one of the lowlights of his career/command. He was absolutely not a hapless victim forced to undertake that expedition.
It would’ve been awesome if you had to fight Napoleon at the end because of some sort of disagreement. Even after the game makes you believe he’s a friend.
To be fair English is the global language, and that the French dub exists. Jokes aside, AC really is historical, Ubisoft even manages a way to twist the events a little while keeping the games historically accurate One good example is Elise shooting Maximilien Robespierre in the jaw, the thing is; it actually happened. Except it wasn't Elise that shot him, it was himself, it was a failed suicide attempt (how do you fail to kill yourself anyway?), they found Robespierre with a giant hole on this jaw when they arrested him.
I got goosebumps whenever napoleon praises me during the holdout fight. and he never hesitated to ask arno to join the military because of it. he knew talent when he sees one.
What does Napoleon Bonaparte look like? -He's French! Go on, -He has Long hair Does he Look like a Bitch? -What? P.S Napoleon, Give Mr. Wallace's Case...
Yeah, geographically speaking you'd be right: it's on the Italian Peninsula, but belongs to France (or at least it did at the time of Napoleon's birth)
JumboCod91 Napoleon was born only a short period after the revolution, in the very recently acquired Italian region of Corsica. Still very much under Catholic influence. France in general at the time wasn't really dechristianized outside of Paris and the surrounding area. Let alone a region just barely in the French sphere of influence; and only recently acquired from one of the most religious and pious people on the continent at that. Catholic. Very Catholic.
@Antonin Mercier Actually Napoleon's views of God changed throughout his life. He believed in the "unmoved mover" and believed in some sense of Destiny(Closest definition is divine purpose). At one intellectualizing point, he advocated a solar diety as it was the most natural as the sun warms and gives life-he also admired Islam. By the end of his life he seems to have come to some kind of acceptance of God. His Political ideology was center-Communitarian overall-sometimes sounding libertarian when not in a position of power. His views were certainly not hardline traditionalist, but he wasn't a radical anti-theist communist either. Overall he was a reasoning theist of some sort.
He said if one was to have a god or worship it should be of the Sun. Also, he constantly moved his religion to fit wherever he went, even reading the Coran when he was in Egypt.
Notice that Napoleon grabbed his gun when he asked Arno to name the thing he was searching for. When Arno told him "some letters" he lowered his hand from the pistol. If Arno said he was looking for an artifact, Napoleon would have shot him.
Napoleon being compared to Hitler and Stalin is an inaccurate misconception devised by British historians. Napoleon was bright, cynical, ruthless, possessed immence confidence (whose genesis lie with Letizia (his mother)) that only grew after each victory in his life and the subtle attributes needed to persuade men (not only those from a harsh and brutal background) to lay down their life for him but unusual for a man of his position and age he was not vindictive, possessed empathy and incredible pragmatic mercy to those who humiliated and betrayed him time and again (Charles Maurice de Tallyrand Perigord being a prime example). Hitler and in particular Stalin were to their core, psychopaths. Such is the difference. But the one thing all three do have in common is that events do shape the man. Without the French or Russian revolutions or the Weimar Republic misnomer would the world now know them? This depressing lesson unfortunately is as good now as it was then; no matter how talented or intelligent, if the opportunity never arises, the dunghill awaits.
@@aleksandartrifunov5754 Nope. Napoleon only launched offensive wars twice, once because his ally is incompetent, and once because Russia broke the treaties.
It would be so cool to have Napoleonic Era AC game. Maybe Napoleon joins the Templars or works with the Assassins to secure the Eden pieces and that's he fights the European monarchies over control of the continent and the pieces. It would be such a great setting, I hope they make it a reality someday.
0:45 nice little detail. you can see napoleon standing ready by gripping his pistol when he asked to "name the prize". Napoleon is still skeptical if their both not after the same thing
Idk why but it bothered me how they changed the normal soldier model and replaced it with the officers model. Kinda weird. “Good job corporal” he says to a man fully decked in a fancy high ranking officers uniform
@@Aaron-pe7xk Well yeah because Napoleon is a real life historical figure who we know how he looks. So of course all depictions of him are going to attempt to look like him.
+Red Ness Great plan... More power to the Bank, then we attack Putin, send troops in the middle-east, kick England out of the EU and throw a blockade, set the capital in Paris before it is invaded a 4th time in 200 years. THAT is the Napoleon way.
Like a megalomaniac banning women from universities, re-establishing slavery and conquer and submit other peoples and celebrate the great time of imperialism to which we owe most of our modern conflicts today ? No, thanks.
Historically inaccurate. Napoleon was maybe not a crazy bloody revolutionary but he was a very radical revolutionary with a moderate style, but practiced a radical method of dealing with the counterrevolutionaries. In fact, Napoleon was a jacobin during the republic era, he was even a friend of the brother of Robespierre and a great admirer of Robespierre. Napoleon was proclaimed savior of the revolution when he used canon against a royalist mob and repressed the royalists with brutal efficiency. Napoleon was arrested by the thermidoriens, aka the moderates, during the fall of Robespierre (9th thermidor) because Napoleon was considered a jacobin military general. Napoleon was freed later and will continue the massacres when the royalists try to cause chaos during the campaign of Italy.
1st- Napoleon had strong corsican accent. 2nd- this actually awesome. I mean Bonaparte was described as heartless, envy, narcissistic and egocentric strategists with enormous rational thinking and intuitive-calculative abilities, but now he also hanged out with bad ass assassin. it sounds cool. not Michael Bay cool, late Marvel cool.
I quite enjoyed the combat and the gameplay of this game. Probably my favorite in the series. It's really too bad the story was so convoluted and messy. I have a soft spot for this game.
Napoleon had a strong southerner accent in his time. When he was born Corsica was barely joined France. I agree with most comments, the developers should have had hired a more adequate actor
Speaking as an English person its very jarring watching Napoleon talking with an English accent. In the earlier AC games they gave the characters an accent, made it seem more believable. This takes me out of it, its like when Romans always have English accents in Hollywood, I mean, why? I always assumed it was because of the association of the word 'Empire' with the British, that and perhaps America's association of the 'old world' with Britain. I just can't take Napoleon with a British accent seriously though, doesn't sit well with me.
Iv often questioned that myself but I read somewhere that it's because of Shakespear and his plays. They were the first incarnation and the "modern" worlds glimpse into Rome. The actors playing Roman characters of course, had British accents. So naturally as famous as Shakespear was along with his plays it became a bit traditional for Roman people portrayed in media to have a bit of a British accent.
What other accent would the Romans have? If you have this notion that modern Italian even comes close to how Latin was pronounced, be rid of it. Italians are no more accurate in terms of accent than the British.
Sam Hall Perhaps because the game is for an English speaking audience. I cant do with the Allo Allo affectation of the french accent. Better to just have a soflty spoken Brit do it. Incidentally if you are seeking the quinteciential depiction of the man I recommend the French movie 'Monseur N' by far the best "recent" performance of N. Napoleon's personality did change during this time (end game on St Helena) due to disgruntlememt, age and possibly by the fact he was being slowly poisoned under the supervision of Hudson Lowe (his jailer).
You know, I wouldn’t mind returning to this period as Arno to face off against Napoleon during his rise and fall as he seems to initially stand for the revolution and freedom, but then consolidates and takes power for himself. And then to bring about his friend’s downfall from behind the scenes, but unwilling to end his life personally. I think that would be a fantastic sequel to have, and one that would help me give Unity a second chance.
Omg, after almost ten years, i have just realized that was not a cornucopia, but an apple of edem, that has made Napoleon an emperor of France in ac universe:)
@@blakefishburn Ok even better. They should’ve given him an Italian accent. But still, even French I would be ok with. But British English is just horrible for Napoleon.
