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Regarding screws and pre drilling and breaking screws. Elco Dril-Flex self-drilling screws would go through that gauge steel like butter There’s shear and pullout charts online and come a variety of sizes / threading/ lengths. Prob 1/4-20. …threading depends on thickness steel you’re drilling into.
Additionally Would suggest predrilling clear holes in the arch tube female part before installing in place, then run your dril-flex screw. A 1/4-20 screw would need a .266 DIA clear hole….or Drill Size H
Thanks for taking the time to make the video. But I have one serious safety concern when picking up the arch a piece of equipment is needed to pick the arch straight up. Pulling the arch up puts incredible strain on the bottom where it is attached to the deck. Also the pulling bows the center beam. I would have spent the money ($250 to $350) rented a Sky Trac for the day to be able to pick this thing up safely without pulling on it. Straight up would be best and safest.
I'm only about halfway through your video. That's a lot of work. All the other videos I've watched of putting arched cabins together were completely different assembly. Glad y'all got it done.
A crane is definitely helpful and if you put together one side of it first, you can probably find a local person with a crane and get away with it for under $200
Thank you for the videos. I’m a little behind you but preparing for my Arched Cabin delivery on June 1st. Documenting my journey as well and have my piers completed and about to begin the subfloor. Your videos have helped me to know what to expect, so grateful
A wise choice! We took a massive hiatus but are planning on doing some framing and getting it dried in over the next few months. We might rent a bucket for the roofing.
Wow, thank you for the insight. Definitely a learning curve. Might have to hire you all to build them now that you got it down to an art-lol. Very informative-appreciate the details of what worked and what didn’t.
5:22 - having seen how much force was required to bend the ribs to get them onto the ridge pole, I probably would brace about 1-2in further out. then once the ribs are all loosely fitted into position, tighten the bracing (like by adding a few new pieces tighter to the joists) to bring the ribs and ridge together before adding fasteners 👍
You know, it definitely has its moments. 100% solo? There are parts where you'll for sure want someone else to assist, just for safety. It's definitely been daunting as hell, especially for a bundle of anxiety like I tend to be LOL. But in the end, every moment of that has been so worth it. This experience of learning how to do all of this has been so empowering and uplifting in general. I was talking with my friend a few months ago about how I couldn't even stand up to use a shovel when I started all of this, and now I'm carrying beams around and framing. If you really want to do this, and I'm able to get to wherever you are, I'll happily scrub in and help you. I see the little arched cabin owners like a little community of enthusiasts. Something like the VW Bus or the Jeep crowd. Will there be horrible moments? Hell yes, but I really believe that we can all be empowered to make things happen for ourselves.
@@LazyAHoleRanch Thanks for sharing your journey. I'm looking around to see if there are any arched cabin builds in the area that I can volunteer on. (For more hands on experience.) I built out a van to live in by myself ( lived in it for 2 years) so i figured why not a tiny home? I'm located in LA. Im looking into Kern County zoning and building code for my arched cabin build.. (Commute 2hrs for my entire-weekend shifts in the city) But yeah I am 100% solo. I figured going onto angies list for extra hands when the time comes. But it wont be for like 4 years. Just good to know my limitations, and your videos have helped me realize them. Please keep sharing, I've been following arched cabins since before living vanlife. To see a community grow over the years has me EXCITED.
My two favorite quotes from this are as follows... *Go nads and strife" and also " Riiiiicoooolaaaaaaaa". 🤣 Well done on the mini house this is goals for soon future for sure 😊
Hard to tell, but when the self-tappers kept snapping, it looks like maybe they were too long. If so, I bet they were bottoming out on the other side of the square tube, and that wouldn't allow the screw to keep going, causing the heads to twist and snap. Switching to the shorter 1-1/2" size was a good idea. 1" probably would have even been long enough. Thanks for sharing this video. Contemplating getting one of these myself for my property, so all this information is helpful!
@@LazyAHoleRanch we really do love your videos. Me and my wife need all the help we can get. Between work and two boys 6 and 4. It's hard but we are doing it.
I fabricated and welded some “clips” to the beams using I think 1 1/2-2” angle iron with a couple of holes drilled into them. Here’s a link to the video where I did all that if that helps. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-en6XUJp5Yzo.html
Hi. It's a fantastic structure for a countryside cabin. Would you mind in sharing the different measuments of those steel bars used please. Regards from Valdivia, Chile
Great video..,.glad u got this far. I wrote u before about insulation. I ant to use 2x10 in the floor to put an 8 inch batt in the floor either mineral wool or paper....,the walls and ceiling wood be 8 inch bats from the floor over the top to the other floor. What are the spaces between the ribs 24 inch? How can you hang bats between the ribs use a net or wires? .....I contacted rock wool company but they never got back to me. I have a suggestion for u. To finish the interior I was going to use ship board on the straight walls and thin plywood where the walls curve. I read that there is a lot of free wood if u scrounge pallets. The pallets can be disassembled.....sanded.....cut to uniform length and installed on the walls........!!!!!! One thing tho. Ship lap has an edge killed to allow the boards to lock when they are stacked horizontally. Also the killed edge allows for a uniform gap between the planks and acts as a moisture shield so water from say a bathroom.....any hi humidity are does not go behind your all into the insulation. So if u use the pallet wood u need to rip this edge on the board or else put a moisture barrier under the boards and use spacers between the boards before u nail them. What do u think about the pallet wood? Appreciate help re the insulation. Also what about a one inch bat across the outside of the ribs under the siding? This layer would eliminate thermal bridging.......thru the ribs into the house!.....let me know.....regards a. Barbuto......barbuto@optonline.net.
Sorry I just saw this message. Well the kit comes with some insulation, so you put that down between the roof panels and the ribs. I’m not sure that you could fit anything else between the ribs and panels without causing issues. The ribs are 24” apart. I’m not sure on the boards either. That’s all Mike’s domain on this. Not sure how we want to finish the interior yet. Mike says there are 24” bats of rock wool so that would work. He says maybe a layer inside between ribs and whatever you are putting on the walls, but he doesn’t think you would be able to between roof panels and ribs because those screws are 3/4”
I was seriously holding my breath and cringing watching y'all stand under that center beam that was being held up by the bucket with strapping, while screwing in the bracing for the other side. And again when watching the first side dangling precariously from the wench!! OSHA would croke watching y'all put that together!! Screwing in the second side bottom bracing before assembling the first side seems like a better idea. You could lay 2x6s on the top of the pegs and set the center beam on that, which would have given it a bit more height and made it a little easier to put the first side together. But you DEFINITELY should have used some long kickers and cross braces to hold that first side up while assembling the second side. If that strap or wench failed, somebody would be dead. Glad it all worked out for you in the end. We will be assembling a couple of these in the next year or so for our oldest sons. Thanks for sharing your process!
Yes. We bought their basic plans, but did need to hire an architect to complete several drawings in order to make those plans complete for the local building department
I would love to do this I wonder if you have a guide book or something to help us cause you learn so much. Did you have a Permit and those kinds of things to navigate?
Will you need bracing between each arch support? It looks like it needs more framing. Windgust, updraft plus straight-line winds have they been put through the test?
Once you put those floor joists in for the loft, that’s going to do just that. I know they’ve been built in hurricane zones, and it’s handled some pretty intense wind up here thus far.
Hi. It's me again. If the bows are 2" x 2", what are the measurements of the short irons where they are embedded? And what size is the beam on the top?
I would love to do this and I would like to know from you if you had experienced people or you felt like you needed to have someone with building experience on the team? Also did you need a permit? How did you navigate the permit?
Mike is fairly handy, so that has been very helpful and I’m just learning as I go. The house kit itself wasn’t bad to put together and took us an afternoon with 3 1/2 people (I mostly filmed) Had to get a permit, oh my god that was a mess lol. A lady at the permit office helped me sort out what I needed. Had to hire an architect to finish out the floor plans, but arched cabins also has an engineering firm they work with who can help do those plans. Our planning office actually had a checklist of what we’d need to file the permit. I would start with your county office and see if there’s anyone willing to just take some time to answer questions. They’ve been super nice here every time I’ve called to clarify this or that.
Here’s the start of getting the beams into place and stuff Welding the Beams for our Arched Cabin Foundation #127 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BZOzOWVQUp4.html
Greg and Rikki wanted to put their hands on one before building their own (they are Bunny Butt Acres here on RU-vid) and Bob is a friend and contractor that’s been working next door. He just happened to show up while we were assembling and jumped in. I have started a Facebook group as well as a Reddit group called Arched Cabin Builds to encourage people to scrub in and help each other with their builds. I’m planning on going to NM in April to help Bunny Butt Acres assemble their kit.
We have code requirements for R value. We intend to spray foam the interior, not sure whether or not we’ll use the insulation we got with it, or if we do it will be after the spray foam. It’s not done yet so I can give insight as to how it will do as far as a tight seal but the spray foam should keep it water tight and well insulated
If you visit the blog on our website I have a post about the power. Sewer is septic here,and that was in place when we got here so our only septic cost has been for a couple of repairs when a pipe was hit excavating In the driveway, and some pipe to run from the tank to where the house will be. HTTPS://lazyaholeranch.com click on blog and then look for the post about power. It will be likely 2018 or 2019 for that. I believe it will be November. (Pretty sure it’s 2018)
I’m sorry, but it’s been a couple of years so I have no idea. I know that it was part of the free music library on RU-vid at that time because that was where I used to go for my music.
It’s 2” square tube. Not sure of wall thickness or any of that at this point. It’s definitely going to depend on the size of the cabin you get. I would check with maybe Bunny Butt Acres since they have easier access to take that measurement. Since our stuff is together, it’s a little challenging to grab that measurement.
***tractor supply self-tapping screws are far better quality than whatever is available at Lowes or home Depot.. (Lol, y'all just mentioned the crap screws were from Lowes as I was typing that comment)
I actually asked Arched Cabins about this. This was their response: Welding vs. using self tappers is the same as far as structural integrity because the stubs that the ribs slide over are welded. You can weld them if you want, but it's just more time consuming.
@@bunnybuttacres I genuinely just thought that welding was better for integrity. I didn't mean to come off rude or anything if I did. I love this cabins and these videos are so cool, best of the luck with your building!
@@tyrtle7081 Not taken as rude at all. It's something that was discussed while we built the one in this ep. And I was curious myself since there's already so much welding involved, it was a logical question to ask.
Why wasn't everything pre-drilled? Am I missing something? Arched Cabins claims how they do this to make it easy. This is ridiculously easy for Arched Cabins to do. So why not do it?!? The home owner shouldn't have to do this, a major pain and massive time waster!
They are 2" square tube, and I'm sorry I don't know the overall length. I can tell you that the total height of the cabins are as follows according to their FAQ. Q. What is the height of an Arched Cabin? A. The 8' wide Arched Cabin is 8' tall, the 12' wide Arched Cabin is 10' tall, the tall 12' wide Arched Cabin is 12' tall, the 14' wide Arched Cabin is 12' tall, the 16' wide is 14'6" tall, the 20' wide is 17'4" tall, the 24' is 18'8" tall, and the 30' wide is 17'4" tall. All these heights are to the top of the ridge beam which is 4" thick.
There’s a post and pier foundation with I beams on top, and then we put the floor joists, rim joists, and subfloor on top of the ibeams. We made a bunch of brackets to attach those floor joists to the beams and welded those brackets to the ibeams.
Interesting video, the arch was cool, the safety harness was not, it was miss leading, to use a harness to a rope that the other end is wrapped around then arm of a person is wrong, if a fall happened both would have been badly hurt, the rope should have been secured to an anchor attached to the structure. Next item at the end your in the harness being hoisted, you do know that can result in death from suspension death, the blood goes into your legs and the harness prevents to from leaving your legs.. please google suspension trauma
Professional need to be on that job for sure. It doesn't look stable at all. The tubes don't cover much. It is a horrible project. Wanting a kit and happy is okay but have these structures passed any stress test?
I was like oh cool and then I seen the blue hair we all know what that stands for. I'm out I can't support people who want to destroy the country that they live in.
😂 something about judging books by covers. Just because one enjoys colorful hair does not mean one agrees with everything that others with colorful hair are into. It just means I like colorful hair. I will say though that I just think people should be left alone to do what they want if they aren’t hurting anyone else. I don’t think there’s needs to be a law for every little freaking thing. Mike likes pew pews, you’ll see one in many of our videos, and we live in a rural area. Away from people. Because people are peopley. So you can hate the hair all you want. It’s just hair and it doesn’t stand for anything other than I’m currently digging on the color purple. (Blue when I made this video)
Yeah I understand where you're coming from. You are failing to realize the atmosphere that you are a part of. You seem to be very nice by your reply. The people with the blue hair are part of a political ideology regime . So basically you're guilty of wearing gang colors and you're not even in a gang. Do you know what I mean. Most of these people describe to a lifestyle that I despise and goes against the good Lord. My advice to you is to know your surroundings and know what is the so-called uniform of certain ideological occult. So basically you're just asking for trouble and you don't even know it. You best wise up to the ways of the world and choose a side. You are not pardoned by your ignorance of unwritten rules of today's society. And then you're going to say I'm judging a book by its cover when you are purposely changing that cover to make a statement that's pretty hypocritical in itself right there another lesson you need to learn. All I can say is good luck it seems as if you're really going to need it when it comes to common Sense.
Get the right training before you suggest the proper fasteners.... never blame the tool.....these videos mock the years of work I've put in to my trade.....building everything all that people use everyday to live and keep society thriving....from start of life to the end....please respect the true workers.... not the attention seeking wanna bes..... Do stuff.....ask for educated people to teach you!
What kind of comment is this actually? I mean seriously. This is a kit that people buy to learn to build it. It’s supposed to be simple. If they wanted a general contractor, they would’ve got a general contractor.