Because of Ascended dialogue I have been slowing leaning towards becoming an evil Durge Vampire Bride with my Vampire Lord husband... I have run 5 good Astarion runs with 4 being as a Durge. I must try the evil power couple fantasy.
Done 2 Spawn Astarion runs so far, one romanced, one not (not by choice btw, it’s just that my 22 rizz bard somehow had 0 rizz at the same time). Thinking for my third playthrough I’ll do an evil durge and ascend him so I can do a kinda sick evil power couple thing. Wish me luck!
"so its like drugs?" "IF THE DRUGS WERE ALSO ANTIDEPRESSANTS, GAVE YOU A SAFE SPACE, DID A JOB OF 3 HOURS OF THERAPY AND PAYED YOUR RENT, NO JEREMY ITS BETTER"
@@romantheboat9118Oh lord, if my Squip looked like Astarion I’d be in so much trouble but wouldn’t care xD Wouldn’t even need a big number like The Pitiful Children to get me to Squip everybody I know.
Vampire Spawn Astarion: I respect you as my equal and I am so grateful for you helping me free myself and for not letting me become the monster I lived in fear of for centuries. You helped me realize that I was enough, that I was already someone worth caring about. I will love you for all of my eternal life. Thank you. Vampire Ascendant Astarion: Oh my adorable pathetic little play-thing… Get on your knees and beg for my attention. I am going to take control of this entire world, and you, my love, will be there to see it all as my beautiful eternal consort. Now turn around and move your hair off that neck, I’m going to take all that you are until your heart stops beating.
The worst part is ascended astarion still love you in his own twisted way, like calling us treasure, shows signs that he still in there just now power hungry and manipulative
Yeah I feel both envious and bad for those who had to work on this audio. Envy because like, obviously, but also bad because can't imagine anyone walking in on them working, or them facing Neil after he gave this performance. Can definitely feel like a few had a hard time with eye contact afterwards and red faces. I sure would've 😂
Astarion could, in a single kiss, singlehandedly cure my all my ailments, chronic and debilitating diseases, mental illnesses, make my hair thicker, give me perfect 20/20 vision, pay off my dog's surgery bills, get me a house in Oregon (USA), give us universal healthcare/vision/dental/mental, make my skin glow, my toes curl and make me even more obsessed with him than i already am.
You see I thought I was aromantic. Turns out I'm aromantic towards real life people because here I am, having a crush of the decade on literal pixels 😂😭
I would be a blushing mess at his shameless flirting. I don't get flirted with much, not even from my husband. xP Though once I got used to his vibe I'd flirt back. ALTHOUGH I might actually flirt with everyone if I got comfortable with them. The one's I'm not actually interested in fully I'd make it clear that it's just flirting for fun. Nothing more.
Sameee omggggg. My husband doesn’t flirt with me too. *sad noises* I’m a huge flirt myself, so it’s so easy to romance anyone. I don’t know how I ended up with my husband who doesn’t even know how to talk dirty 😂
Sadly, the beginning of this isn't 'flirty' it's 'predator' Astarion. I adore Astarion, but not so much the Ascended version. Ascended Astarion uses the term 'love' insincerely. He'd never see Tav as his equal, but as something he created to be by his side while his shadow looms over everything. He makes it pretty clear in his pet names. I prefer the Astarion who is more earnest once you've won his trust. He's more genuine as he realizes he doesn't have to front you anymore. His flirting is more sincere.
I recently saw this video on youtube depicting the future of ascended astarion and tav. It's pretty heartbreaking, but I honestly think it's very realistic. I would never be able to ascend astarion... If I ever did, then I would have to rp that I don't care about him, which I just can't seem to do ^^` Here's the video btw: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2_DHOTPYYbA.html&ab_channel=Vesper
Also jumping in to add that becoming a true vampire (and who knows how much this quadruples when you literally exchange your soul to a King of the Nine Hells to Ascend) in DND lore means you lose your last bit of humanity/soul. They are no longer categorized as a person, like the other DND races, but as an official Monster, along with Beholders, Dragons, etc. This is also reflected when you read the writings strewn about Cazador’s castle (especially at the little altar on the side of the chamber Cazador tries to Ascend in). They imply Cazador’s own master, Vellioth, basically beat the last of his compassion, empathy, humanity out of him before making him a true vampire and drilling into him the 3 Lessons of Vampirism (one of which he taught to Cazador by having him impaled for 11 years 😰). Once you’ve lost your soul, you don’t become emotionless, but all your emotions get turned into their negative counterpart. Love becomes obsession & possessiveness, friendship becomes jealousy, etc. They seek out physical gratification for these cravings that were once softer, human emotions. So they did a very good job portraying that in Ascended Astarion. He is a smart man, & a preternatural creature that is MEANT to seduce their prey to boot. He’s manipulative as shit 😂. It’s in his nature now! And so many people are falling for it, sadly. Nothing wrong with Ascending Astarion or enjoying Ascended Astarion’s scenes/character. It’s fiction! It’s meant to be fun, to experience dangerous things in a safe context. But the amount of “Here’s Proof Ascended Astarion Actually Loves You” is…very concerning. He does have FEELINGS for Tav after he Ascends…but they are not love. He is physically incapable of it. Which isn’t his fault. But just reinforces this as his “bad” (and for me personally, extremely sad in the larger context of his trauma) ending.
No.... you haven't been paying attention if you think that way. He mentioned one of the things he desires in life being gold, sex, revenge and power He likes to flirt and have sex. He just doesn't want to feel used and abused while at it
@@sabsain2399 If you think he means what he says early on in the game… There’s only one emotion that he’s never able to suppress in the early game: surprise, so unless he’s just been shocked/surprised by something, everything he says is a lie, including “and” and “the.”
My Tav became more powerful than him as a Baal spawn in charge of the Absolute 👹 whilst having complete control over him, yes I did an evil Durge playthrough
The character is incredibly well written, and is funny as fuck. But I was a metalhead teenager in the grunge era... Back then, those pickup lines were considered the most obviously insincere, lame and desperate attempts of the edgiest kid to a quick shag... 😅 I could never do his romance route, not even for a loose bet... 😂
I like some of his Ascended lines removed from the context of him being Ascended. When in their context, I am deeply uncomfortable xD I like the idea of Spawn Astarion like, roleplaying being a problematic vampire lord, but I just can't personally stomach AA. No hate to people that do, though!
Isn’t it disconcerting that one can spend so much dialogue and effort on helping him be better, but none of his dialogue or effort is spent on helping you be better?
What does flirting bring atm? Nothing unfortunately. You can't enjoy romancing several companions anyway, after they broke the dialogues and animations with patch 4 :( Astarion, Gale, Wyll, also Shadowheart's quest partly, all broken now
You know flirting is a form of bonding with your partner when you're already in an established relationship? Flirting isn't something reserved solely for people newly courting each other.
Ascended Astarion is where it's at. I've done both play throughs and felt like Tav really had to assert their good nature over him and coerced him into being good/spawn when that's not really his true nature. He's been evil from the start afterall, of course he wanted to ascend and take power for himself and be Tav's protector instead of having to rely on them.
Are you sure he's been evil from the start? He literally got beaten to death by Gur as a magistrate because he was just. Centuries of being a sex slave and of being tortured corrupted and changed his personality. Even after being free from cazador the first time, he vows not to hurt innocent people for blood when he easily could've
@sabsain2399 in early access Astarion says he was a corrupt magistrate. It's also often referenced in other Forgotten Realms texts that the Gur were targets of prejudice, so one can assume that Astarion and most elves held a bias against them and ruled as such. Whatever his ruling as magistrate was, it was bad enough to have a gang of Gurs nearly beat him to death for it. I imagine he enjoyed playing his part in the political corruption of the city, he is a charlatan after all.
@@mushrooms23 there's a reason it was said in early access... except it wasn't even what was said. He was supposed to be a corrupt NOBLE thirsting for the power of immortality. In canon, he was a just magistrate whose decision earned him the ire of evil gurs. Tav and Astarion even manage to make the distinction with the option that went something like, "you can't judge the currect gur you met because of the evil one in the past."
