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Asus ROG Azoth vs. Asus ROG Scope II

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For the longest time, I gamed on full-sized keyboards. At first, it was all we mouse-and-keyboard gamers had and I transitioned into the working world where the benefits of the 10-key numpad became understandable. Until around 2015, I was exclusive to full-sized keyboards, but I eventually tried a TKL keyboard and never really looked back. Watch my story to understand why I’m sticking with the Asus ROG Azoth keyboard.
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0:00 - Intro
0:15 - Backstory
2:46 - Azoth & Scope II Keyboards' Features
6:53 - Why TKL over Full-sized Keyboards?
11:08 - Conclusions
11:54 - Keyboard Sound Tests
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@mrbabyhugh 3 месяца назад

8:02 i am currently very used to where Del key is on my currently laptop, it is actually right beside the power button to it's left, LOLOL!!! Then Home, End, Pg Up, Pg Dn to the right that completes the first row. It is awkward position I do agree, but I have gotten used to it over soon 7 years. (2 laptops, same manufacturer, same model just different brand CPU.)

@mynusten 3 месяца назад

@mrbabyhugh yea, almost every keyboard requires some form of muscle memory retraining...so the home, end, pg up / down, etc is rarely the same. Minor points for sure.

@sooperfy 3 месяца назад

if you could get the azoth with snow switches. idk if theyre swappable but the sound of the snow switches is chefs kiss lol. ive tested so many keyboards through amazon. have been leaning toward razer but after hearing asus snow switches i may be going that the scope route. i personally love having number pad if i have to type numbers outside of gaming. not often you have to enter that many numbers. currently using v2 huntsman full size. had tkl but wanted to see about fullsize. personally i use a fast dpi on my mouse so i dont have issues with space for mouse when gaming with full size kb. may try v3 huntsman if i dont like the 96% asus scope II. keychron v5 and q5 keyboards sound great too and along the lines of custom keyboards. i think ive learned i want a little clickiness but not alot from my keyboard which snow switches do perfectly.

@mynusten 3 месяца назад

Highlighted comment @sooperfy The Scope II and the Azoth are both solid keyboards and both have replaceable switches. If you need a 10-key numpad, then the Scope is the right call. Thanks for watching my content and engaging!

@costantineyoussif6679 4 месяца назад

Great review btw, and very well detailed content, i been using the scope ii 96 for about a week now and i didn’t realize that there’s is a flagship from Asus called Azoth until i ordered it and will be testing it out today and will see which one to keep, trying to get my games entertainment hobby back :) , btw the scope ii 96 came with snow switches so i made the same decision with the Azoth not sure was the $50 even worth it, not really sure how they’re different from the Red switches since on their website shows minimal differences and i got no choice to get the Red since they were sold out. Thanks again you earned a subs 👌🎉

@mynusten 4 месяца назад

@costantineyoussif6679 the Asus Scope II 96 is an excellent keyboard; however, with the Azoth coming down in price (at least for blue, reds & sometimes brown), I think the Azoth is still a better value. I also like the 75% layout. I just did a one-year review on the Azoth and I still think its the best, mass market 75% keyboard on the market. I cannot wait to see what Asus designs for an Azoth 2. Appreciate the kind comment and the sub!

@lordmax-2002 11 месяцев назад

Finally a good review, was kinda choosing between the 2, thank god i found you comparing each other.

@mynusten 11 месяцев назад

@lordmax-2002 Many thanks for the kind words and watching my content! I appreciate the feedback and that my impressions were helpful.

@Oliver-zw7tw 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for the review, good work. I noticed that you failed to mention that one of the biggest differences between the two aside from the form factor is that the Azoth is gasket mounted while the Scope is not.

@mynusten 8 месяцев назад

@Oliver-zw7tw thanks for watching and engaging in my content! The Azoth being gasket mounted is a very, very good point and thanks for adding this to the comments section. I'm still learning how to make content and hit all the key points when I make my videos and this is a keyboard feature that I need to add-in if a keyboard has this feature!

@graveborne8724 Месяц назад

Felt both, like em both. Choose the Scope 2 becuae it was $100 cheaper and i belive the size suits me better.

@mynusten Месяц назад

Ths Scope II is a solid, solid keyboard and comes-in at a much lower price point. Probably the best full-sized, gaming keyboard in today's market. Appreciate the engagement! 👍

@KenoticMuse 11 месяцев назад

As a mechanical enthusiast, the spacebar on your Azoth does sound like it rattles :). That's okay, because the Azoth looks like it's designed to be customizable, so you easily disassemble the keyboard to get to the spacebar and lube the stabilizer, or replace the stabilizer entirely. Thanks for the review! Just curious. How programmable are the keys in the Azoth? If you get a chance to play around with the programmable macros, please upload and share. Cheers!

@mynusten 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the comment and agree with you 100% on the Azoth's stabilizers -- very rattly and probably pulled too hard on the space bar when I first received the Azoth. This is a great content idea and I'll try to put in some Durock V2 Stabilizers with some Krytox 205G lube!

@BrawndoQC 11 месяцев назад

I have both keyboards on my desk right now and the Azoth space bar on mine doesn't rattle. But I've an earlier unit at my office that does a wee bit. Still a great feeling I am not sure yet what stock feel I prefer between the 96 and the Azoth.

@mynusten 11 месяцев назад

@@BrawndoQC I procured some Duroc stabs and planning to upgrade them to hopefully get rid of my spacebar rattle. Most of my other keys feel a-okay, but will upgrade all the stabs at the same time. The more keyboards I use, the more I appreciate the Azoth as a mass-produced keyboard.

@Talhakhan-ub8wp 6 месяцев назад

You're gonna need a num pad for gta5 or upcoming gta 6 for flying planes

@mynusten 6 месяцев назад

OMG...that is hilarious...I had no idea that there are games out there that require a 10-key numpad. If there is game, this is THE game that will send full-sized keyboards off the shelf. Thanks for posting your comment! 👍

@ashlynnicole76 3 месяца назад

Great review on both Asus ROG keyboards. Would you consider the Azoth a good keyboard for work/productivity as well for gaming?

@mynusten 3 месяца назад

The Azoth is a fantastic keyboard for gaming and I use it everyday for work. It's excellent for hammering out the emails. That said, it does not have a 10-key numpad, so you need to understand that missing keyborard feature. Thanks for the comment and watching my content!

@dO3enwurst 9 месяцев назад

Great Review, Very Helpful. I just can't decide. I love the size Azoth and and the insert in del keys are better placed than on the scope. But i need a Numpad for my work in the Office.... Greetings from Germany.

@mynusten 9 месяцев назад

@dO3enwurst yea its a tough choice...especially if you need a 10-key numpad. I work in Finance and I learned to live without the 10 key, but it was a tough transition. Up there with trying to quit coffee. Good luck on your decision and thanks for watching my content! Been a rough November with end of quarter coming...hoping to get back to making videos soon.

@dO3enwurst 9 месяцев назад

@@mynusten Thanks for your answer. I work as an account manager in sales and wants to use the keyboard for gaming and work. I think i go with the Azoth and try to lern to live without the 10 key. I love the 75% Formfactor for Gaming. Thanks for your Feedback and keep up the good work....

@Juice8767 11 месяцев назад

I'm oddly stoked to see that G410 lol Mine's currently at my mom's house because it's the only one I could stand to part with and she needed something but it does have a special place in my heart as my OG TKL

@mynusten 11 месяцев назад

@Juice8767, indeed! Photos of the Logitech G410 keyboards takes us back to another day...but I definitely enjoying the moneran day of 2.4 GHz wireless keyboards.

@ViciousXUSMC 8 месяцев назад

TKL for life used to also use the num pad all the time for excel as it was part of my job. Unless your doing data entry and doing it all day its definitly more ergonomic to take it away to give yourself better posture and more mouse space. I am a bit torn between the Asus Azoth right now or the RK Roayl Kludge RK84 mostly want one of the two for wireless, both on sale for Black Friday. For pure gaming performance, one day I will get a Wooting or Drunk Deer or something with Hall Effect switches. Want wireless via USB dongle for workign on servers and stuff, or equipment I am not sitting infront of. Appreciated this review as the Scope looked good upfront as it has a lot of the same tech, but there are too many flaws.

@mynusten 8 месяцев назад

The Wooting is outstanding tech, but I just couldn't make the leap to a 60% layout. I will post my impressions shortly...work has had me over the barrel for the past month. Thanks for watching my content and engaging. Very much appreciate it.

@ViciousXUSMC 8 месяцев назад

@@mynusten Yeah the full size wooting is too big. Really tempted to get the Drunk Deer A75 but some people saying the Wooting is so much better with how you can configure and use it. So with that, there is rumor that Wooting is going to release another model. It will be pricey but worth waiting for.

@mynusten 8 месяцев назад

@@ViciousXUSMC The Wooting switches, keycaps and oveall tech / software is superior to DrunkDeer. Agree with your decision to wait for a 75% or TKL Wooting.

@Biesteh 6 месяцев назад

Hey, bit late to the party here but do you know if cherry keycaps will cause interference with these switches? As they are north facing. Thanks!

@mynusten 6 месяцев назад

I would assume cherry keycaps should work on the Asus keyboards, but the one thing you have to always check are the space bar and other bottom-row keys. The bottom-row keys come in a variety of shapes. Also, the manufacturing quality will factor in as 75% and smaller keyboards don't have any space between each key. Good luck on your mods.

@mrbabyhugh 3 месяца назад

2:55 before u go any further, I didn't even look at the Azoth, a numpad is mandatory for me and I looked at adding numpad, I wishlist one and sorta felt fine with that (i was actually decided on the Falchion)... UNTIL I SAW THE SCOPE II!! I bought it 2 nights ago, woke up that it has been shipped today. My laptop is the same layout, so I am good to go!

@mrbabyhugh 3 месяца назад

8:35 yawn, I am 44, you're just stubborn to ADJUST.

@mynusten 2 месяца назад

That’s the truth! 👍

@RzK1ll3r 9 месяцев назад

oh nice review but next time little more sound test please :D i need it to hear ! and you choice again Azoth i dont see diffirent betwen this 2 keyboards? only 75% and 96% size and 1 oled and 1 mechanical roller button is the diffirent another do you have more? Here the price betwen this 2 keyboards is 100 euro in the same seller only 1 seller we have... dont have analog but here scope 2 have 2 choice snow or storm switch when azoth they sell only red switches.

@scorpiogamer7027 Месяц назад

Scope 2 is definitely more value for the money for what you get. I just wish the azoth came with a wrist rest with the price you pay.

@mynusten Месяц назад

@scorpiogamer7027 100% agree with you on this point. On my Azoth, I use the Glorious small, wristrest. Thanks for the engagement and comment! 👍

@scorpiogamer7027 Месяц назад

@@mynusten All good. I just have the palm rest from Logitech that’s shaped like cloud. Guess it’s time to upgrade to Glorious. Thank you.

@mynusten Месяц назад

@@scorpiogamer7027 if you have a 75% or smaller keyboard, get the "Compact" size. TKL, get the "Tenkeyless" one. Only buy the "Slim" version if you have a low-profile keyboard. After years of trying out wristwrests, Glorious are the best for the price.

@scorpiogamer7027 Месяц назад

Thank you for the info. That was going to be my next question was which one lol.

@mynusten Месяц назад

@scorpiogamer7027 Us gamers think alike! 😄👍

@Dozerboy84 9 месяцев назад

good review man. How long will the battery last approx with rgb on? cheers

@mynusten 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching my content and the compliment! I did do a hardcore battery test on the Scope II, but the Azoth, with the RGB maxed-out & the OLED display showing my rig stats, I usually get a week of hard use. This includes 12 to 14 hours per day of work and gaming. With all the elctronics in our household, I'm just programmed to charge-up the wireless, gaming devices at least once per week.

@Dozerboy84 9 месяцев назад

@@mynusten thanks for the reply. Am not too much into wireless keyboards but assume one week is much more than other boards could produce 👌

@mynusten 9 месяцев назад

@@Dozerboy84 It's really hard to tell as it always comes down to how bright you run your RGB and how much you work / game. I'm on my keyboard at least 14 hours per day between the two and a solid week is about what I get. I go back and forth between wired / wireless keyboards. Thanks for watching my content! Really appreciate it.

@patriciaweber9832 8 месяцев назад

scope 2 96 is the best keyboard ever til today :)

@user-of9fp2fl2j 9 месяцев назад

Hi good day to all i have a question, what is the difference between red/brown or blue switches? thanks

@mynusten 9 месяцев назад

Hi there, blue switches are what gamers call clicky switches and have a very heavy tactile feel with an audible click when activating the key. Browns are tactile and have a lower tactile feel with almost no click. Reds are linear without the bump or tactile feel on the downward stroke. Gamers usually prefer reds. For typing, browns have a more pleasant feel and are relatively common in gaming, too. Unless you live by yourself, Blues are only for the die hards as anyone around you will be very annoyed by the constant noise coming from your keyboard. Hope this helps.

@user-of9fp2fl2j 9 месяцев назад

@@mynusten thanks much and more power to your channel.

@mgcarnevali01 11 месяцев назад

Is there any way to power off oled screen on Azoth? I want to buy one of them but not sure if there is a way to power the screen off just to avoid burn in, Many thanks for your review!

@mynusten 11 месяцев назад

@mgcarnevalio1 there isn't a way to turn off the OLED screen, but you can lower its brightness. I was worried about it being a battery drain when I first bought the Azoth; however, I have come to very much appreciate the OLED screen and I glance at it everyday. In regards to battery life, I leave the OLED & RGB brightness on at 100% and I have to recharge the keyboard once per week. Not too big of an issue as I pretty much have a corner of my house devoted to recharging devices now. 🤣

@mgcarnevali01 11 месяцев назад

@@mynusten that's a shame because I saw several reports about how quickly the screen burn in, actually I have a apex pro tkl 2023 wireless and I can power off the screen using GG. I'm thinking to get the scope 2 instead of the azoth because of this. Thanks for your answer.

@mgcarnevali01 11 месяцев назад

@@mynusten sorry for disturbing you again, what happen is you set the brightness to 0? it should power off the screen...

@mynusten 11 месяцев назад

@@@mgcarnevali01 Not a bother at all and a big part of why I've started publishing RU-vid content is to be able to engage with my viewers! Dropping the OLED brightness to 0, basically turns off the main part of the display, but the side sections that show cap locks, remaining battery, wireless connectivity remain on. Great question and I never tried this, so I learned something new about the Azoth today! 😀

@mgcarnevali01 11 месяцев назад

@@mynusten Hello, I was chatting with a Asus Forum mod and he told that if you power the screen off from Armoury Crate the display is completely black without any indicators. You should try it!

@Gretschi 9 месяцев назад

Its a 13min video and his only point is the size

@mynusten 9 месяцев назад

@Gretschi, thanks for your comment and watching my content! Really appreciate it. There are lots of good things about the Scope II and I go over the positives during the video, but for me, I couldn't readjust to a full-sized keyboard. My feel is there are a lot of gamers who use a single keyboard for gaming and desk real estate is at a premium for many of us, so this video is for those who are thinking of getting a full-sized gaming keyboard. As for the video length, agree fully, I need to get better at my editing...its an ongoing learning cycle. 😁

@Gretschi 9 месяцев назад

@@mynusten I have to try it 🫣 got both here for testing. Ty ♥️

@goofsaddggkle7351 10 месяцев назад

After watching tons of keyboard review vids (including yours) I just received my Rog Strix Scope 2. Maybe ASUS was listening to you because the connectivity switcher now has a raised rib and its easy to find it by feel. And by the way, outside of the ugly ass lettering they use on the keycaps, this keyboard is the best sounding, feeling, everything keyoard i've ever had. So happy to not have to install software - just plug and play due to that macro button and scroll wheel and well marked keycaps to make switching rgb coloring/brightness so easy.

@mynusten 10 месяцев назад

@goofsaddggkle7351 interesting and good to know. I really enjoyed the ROG Scope II, but that was the one thing I couldn't deal with as I am always going between MacOS and Windows. For me, that makes the Scope II better! Thanks for watching my content and posting! Really appreciate it.

@m3tvl138 9 месяцев назад

This keyboard is not that much bigger than a tkl. It’s actually unnoticeable tbh. I swapped from a Razer Huntsman te v2 tkl to the scope 2 and didn’t notice any issues with bumping the keyboard while flick shotting. I run 300 dpi and I need all the mousepad real state I can get. I wouldn’t consider this video to be a valid source to influence your purchase.

@mynusten 9 месяцев назад

@m3tvltv674 thanks for watching and engaging in my content. Totally respect your views and contributing to the overall body of feedback on the Scope II. It’s a good keyboard, for sure.

@m3tvl138 9 месяцев назад

You have a very swell demeanor glad no offense was taken.

@mynusten 9 месяцев назад

@@m3tvl138 never and I appreciate all feedback as a content creator. I’m learning the whole process from pre, in and post-production. A big part of the learning process is listening to the viewers input & feedback. I appreciate it all. 👍👍👍

@stevesutton772 5 месяцев назад

I hate the Azoth. Wish i could sell it for even half the price. The 96 is so good.

@mynusten 5 месяцев назад

The Asus ROG Scope 2 is a solid keyboard and understand why you like it.

@costantineyoussif6679 4 месяца назад

May i ask you why? I have both now and really cant make a decision. I love some feature in here and some here 🤦‍♂️😂

@mynusten 4 месяца назад

@@costantineyoussif6679 for me, I chose the Azoth over the Scope II because of the size (I prefer 75%) and my view is the Azoth's overall build quality is a bit better. Ultimately, they are both great keyboards and if you purchased the Scope II at a reasonable discount, the pricing difference may not make up for Azoth premium.

@costantineyoussif6679 4 месяца назад

@@mynusten i was actually pointing out the question to @stevesutton772 but again thank you for your input, the confusion will be end once i test out the Azoth for another week or so like i did with the Strix 96 then i will decide which one to keep, i really like some features on the Azoth and i like some on the 96 like the Numpad for sure because i may later use it for some worksheets, just having a regret feeling if i keep one over the other is killing 😂😀

@mynusten 4 месяца назад

@@costantineyoussif6679 I hear you on the numpad. I work in the finance industry and miss it when I need the 10-key numpad.

@importjunjun 11 месяцев назад

I’ve been waffling between these exact two keyboards over the last couple days. Helpful stuff, not to mention timely. I’m upgrading from a Razer Huntsman Elite for exactly the reasons you mentioned: I almost never use the numpad, periphs like the G502/X have been really eye opening that wireless is the way to go as long as there are sources verifying latency performance, and I’m exactly the type of person who’s always been enticed by the custom enthusiast realm. A couple questions: did you notice a big difference with battery performance between the two? You also mentioned that the scope ii keycaps felt more cramped. Are they actually physically smaller compared to the keycaps on the Azoth (given the obvious mutations like the numpad 0 and the right side shift/ctrl/alt keys) or is the spacing between keys thinner, or was that more of the overall impression due to the keyboard layout? Ty!

@mynusten 11 месяцев назад

Hi there, great questions. For battery, I didn't do a test, but the Scope II will most likely have the longer battery life as it doesn't have the OLED display. On the Azoth, I keep the brightness at 100% and I get about 4 to 5 days of very heavy use before having to recharge it. On the OLED screen, the Azoth has a battery charge indicator, which is nice. For me, recharging once per week is not a big deal. As for the "cramped-ness" of the Scope II, this has more to do with the footprint. I believe the keycaps are the same size, but Asus shrank the overall footprint, so some keys are in awkward locations on the keyboard, for example the delete key. If you are a touch-typist, this may make more sense. All that said, both keyboards are great, but its impossible for me to go back to a full-sized keyboard.

@importjunjun 11 месяцев назад

@@mynusten So very much in part due to your video and reply, I went ahead with the Azoth, received it Friday, and spent all weekend with it. Absolutely adore it - I was fantasizing about going back home just to use it again all day at work, lol. So thanks for pointing me in the right direction! One quick thing is you mentioned that the OLED screen easily scratches, and I've seen similar comments around the internet where even wiping it with a microfiber cloth will leave marks. That seemed off to me, and it turns out there's a really precise-fit protective film over the screen out of the box. I'm pretty familiar with Asus products, so I carefully prodded with my fingernail around the edges of the OLED screen and sure enough, caught an edge and peeled off that protective film, even though it's so well fit that I wasn't sure it was even there (they really should leave some kind of tab sticking out so people have an easy way to peel it off). You probably knew that and maybe the screen really is that scratch-prone in the longer term, but I've been using microfiber to wipe mine and it clears up very nicely 😎

@mynusten 11 месяцев назад

@@importjunjun interesting and I am checking my OLED screen. My son, who has much better eyes than me, gave it a quick look, but couldn't see the film. We'll keep checking it out and see if the film is still on the OLED screen. What switches did you get? Its a great keyboard and I'm going put new, Durock V2 stabilizers in it after Labor Day. Hopefully, the Durocks will fix my spacebar rattle. Glad my video helped you out!

@importjunjun 11 месяцев назад

@@mynusten If you never peeled film off the OLED screen, it's definitely there! (Very similar to the film that was on the eye logo on the bottom side). It's extremely thin and precisely fit - I could only get it off by removing the top aluminum cover and kinda prodding/rubbing with my nail and finger, very carefully, upwards around the exposed screen edges I'm starting to do more productivity-type stuff at home, and reds lead to more typos than I'd like. I'm likely going to keep the stock switches on WASD and spacebar, but for everything else I ordered a set of 62g Aqua King V3s. I was also really interested in the dual-stage-spring Tecsee Ice Candies (prioritizing transparent housings to keep dat rgb sparkly). The gateway is real x_x

@lycanthoss 11 месяцев назад

@importjunjun I just got the azoth myself, but haven't removed the oled tape. I assume it's there to protect the screen from scratching?

@gtf2584 10 месяцев назад

will the scope ii work with windows 10? i hope so i just bought one

@mynusten 10 месяцев назад

@gtf2584 Yes, the Scope II will work with Windows 10 and I am certain you'll enjoy the keyboard. Thanks for the comment and watching my content.

@gtf2584 10 месяцев назад

@@mynusten thanks friend i appreciate it

@mynusten 10 месяцев назад

@@gtf2584 anytime and I really appreciate you watching my content and engaging! Have a great rest of the week! 👍

@gtf2584 10 месяцев назад

@@mynusten you do the same

@manicniceguy2341 11 месяцев назад

Only 60 subs 61 now I use a Razer Ornata TKLI was using a Logitech pro TKL but I like the Razer better because its low profile. I won't ever buy full size again gaming since 1998 on PC back to the Arcades

@mynusten 11 месяцев назад

Wow! Many thanks, @manicniceguy2341! Indeed, I still have nightmares about the full-sized, Compaq Computer keyboard I used in the 1980s! 🤣 Really appreciate the comment and sub.

@BrawndoQC 11 месяцев назад

That is personal preference, 96 is TKL size. 60 sucks for me as a programmer so you do you. 65 I can tolerate for non productive activities, 75% minimum when working, this 96 bridge the gap between tkl size and full. Lay off the booze. In 1998 keyboards were huge.

@mynusten 11 месяцев назад

@@BrawndoQC The beauty of today is choice. I am going to try my first 60% keyboard in a few weeks as I just ordered the Wooting 60HC...not sure how I'll cope without F keys and wireless, but I hear rave comments about it. For my, my sweet spot is 75%.

@mrbabyhugh 3 месяца назад

9:13 LMFAO!! And you complain about a Del key! JUST SAY YOU WANT A SMALLER FORM FACTOR and cut the crap excuses!

@mynusten 3 месяца назад

@mrbabyhugh definitely smaller form factor for gaming, but I work in the Finance industry and used to use the 10-key numpad all the time. Instead of having two keybaords, I just ended-up going with the TKL / 75% form factor. I have not issues with full-sized keybaords, but since my channel is more focused on gaming vs. work gear, I find it hard to recommend a full-sized keybaord for gaming. Just my views though. Thanks for the feedback👍and alwasys looking for ways to improve my content deliver!

@elipsoflix 10 месяцев назад

Bro i dont wanna watch your face, please show the product

@mynusten 10 месяцев назад

LOL...can't disagree with you on that point! 😁 Thanks for the input and I'm learning to setup different angles. Thanks for watching and appreciate the feedback.

@elipsoflix 10 месяцев назад

@@mynusten ❤️❤️❤️

@gtf2584 10 месяцев назад

ur kinda a ass

@gtf2584 10 месяцев назад

@mehmetivia

@patriciaweber9832 8 месяцев назад

there is a games for k and mouse but also games just for pad. so wrong.