ASUS ROG Flow X13 vs Flow Z13 - Don't Choose Wrong! 

Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you Matthew, you're the man

As a car guy, love the sample video when you were talking about the displays! Right on

Having used the Flow x13, I get a lot of people asking how there is so much performance in such a small form factor. It's very quiet when not gaming. I wanted something that was low profile for every day use for work with good battery, and when I wanna play a demanding game, I can swap to that. Fan control and power settings are important. In battery boost mode, I had it set the CPU to under clock to use less power. Significantly increased battery. I love this thing, -just need to get the Mobile GPU lol.- got it! Update 6/21/2022 - Flow x16: Asus Flow x16 just released, and I'm hella tempted to swap to it for the 3070 Ti configuration, but I'm reluctant on it due to the larger footprint and price. Update 9/6/2022 - Final Decision: I sized up the Flow x16 at the Microcenter store. @Kiri_36 mentioned it's $1k+ more, so I opted for the XG Mobile 3080 instead, and I think I've got the best portable rig money can buy in 2022. It runs everything and offloads the heat as it sits on my lap, which is a major benefit.

Great comparison! Thanks especially for the Photoshop/Premiere comparisons. The idea of solid 4K video editing machines with such a small form factors is very compelling. Any thoughts on whether either of these could handle fairly light (under 10 minute videos, 5 layers or less) 8k video editing?

Great review...love it...a lot of information in just a short video, answer most of my questions related to the different of these two.

I prefer the X13 as I don't find much of a reason to go for a heavy windows tablet that has a worse battery life. The 6000 series CPUs are way powerful enough for me.

7:00 I’m legitimately shocked they put in a socketed Wi-Fi card for the 2022 x13 (my 2021 model has a soldered Wi-Fi card)!

Thanks for the excellent comparison!

With your video you have guided me very well. Thanks.

waiting on my x13! thank you!

I wish there was a standard for the x8 egpu connector or an external enclosure you could put any gpu into that uses the x8 connector

Thanks for these reviews. Picking up my m16 today.

The best review, congrats man !!!

I have always noticed that Intel stuff is always expensive than AMD stuff and yeah that is the key point for me Even though i like the z13 form factor I’m not ready to pay $1899 when I can get almost same form factor for $1599

the Z13 is in my Top 3 favorite tech purchases of all time. im a Surface guy. have Surface Books, Pros, Go, Duos, RT. i was trying to decide between a Surface Pro X and the newest Pro. also had a Steam Deck on order. decided to go with the Z13 to instead of a new Pro AND the Steam Deck. i know this isnt a handheld. but i LOVE it. finally received my Steam Deck about 10 days ago. sold it to someone in Puerto Rico who couldnt get one. im happy and hes happy.

Thanks for your reviewing both laptops, i can choose what is best deal

Great comparison review Matt as always. Concise and succinct. The Asus ROG Flow X13 is now $1799.99 at Best Buy. They raised the price :-/

I went for the z13 for the vastly superior cooling setup. Having the hot air being pushed up and away from the machine and never needing a cooling pad makes a huge difference

I had the X13 2021 last year. The AMD chip went up really hot unless you put the laptop in a tent mode (not practical while gaming unless you have an external keyboard or controller). For productivity work the battery was good however. I got around 8hrs (No Gaming). I bought the Z13 this year and using it for around a month. It's really good in terms of thermal management. It never went above 82 degrees even using the overclocking for CPU and GPU. And in silent mode the Z13 can give you around 6hrs battery. I am quite happy with this. But beware, it's not a lite tablet, that you can hold for long hours like an iPad.

It would be interesting to see a comparison between the zephyrus g14 and the flow x13.

Thanks man, I need this

Thanks for the info mate :)

I'm getting the Z13 when they launch, on the 16th.

Does it Run software like Zbrush, Maya and substance painter smoothly with stylus ? or do we get delay with sculpting strokes ? also can you add extra GPU with it ?

They bumped up the price on the X13. Luckily, I was able to find an open box one for just under the old price. Its a very nice laptop. Feels great in the hand.

Flow X13 is still my favorite. It was the most interesting device, maybe as interesting as Zephyrus G14

thanks for helping me make the choice

i've been used x13 like 1 year, i think this is kind of laptop that ASUS should make in the future. small factor & good performance. the problem is just the paint peeling off if u often use it in hot environment & ASUS should make the trackpad larger in the next gen of this device , the last thing that they need to replace is 2230 type of SSD to 2260/2280 type of SSD in notebook.👌

the final thoughts is what this video makes me smile well played

I hope you'll get your hands on the latest Asus Zenbook 14X OLED UX5401and review it. It's been months since it was introduced yet still no handson reviews and price 😔

I'd like to know how it's like to take notes using the touchscreen and a pen on both devices

Thank you my Friend now i'm sure to take the x13 ! Perfect vidéo 👍

Funny thing: X13 with same specs is waiting for unboxing after delivery roughly one hour before - thanks for the video, confirming my decision after many hours of research. Hopefully it will work for 4k video editing on the go. So I will unbox it later and do not send it back for a Z13 :) Maybe later a fat desktop for final editing if the planned project is gaining motion! Thanks again!

Matthew: Don't forget to take your vitamins and be well.

I wish Asus would bring back the Mothership. Now that was a sweet system.

deciding between the x13 and the zenbook fold once it comes out

Is the x13 ryzen 7 rtx 3050 enough for architecture programs?? Or should I get the Zhephirus g14 rtx 6700s??? Have a tactil panel is a plus but if the diference is so big I could get the g14 , help please 😓

Regarding the USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 Port in X13, Asus has promised, just like their other Ryzen 6000 series Laptops, that it will receive USB 4 update via a Firmware/Drive update. Technically the USB-C port is USB 4 in X13 but right now there is no driver and firmware support for it. That will eliminate some of the advantages Z13 has due to TB 4. What I understand correctly that for being used as a Laptop, X13 is a better buy due to combination of very good performance , keyboard and battery life whereas Z13 can be the best Windows Tablet. If you're really considering it for gaming then the eGPU dock is a must have and I think that $300 savings can be utilized over there, if you go with X13.

The components, for example the RAM, can be replaced relatively easily with a soldering station. So, it's possible to do some upgrades.

I got the Z13 coming from a Surface Pro 4 ! I must say it's a great device not perfect but i just got BIOS 310 that should solve some problems ... Running games perfectly on 1080p with RTX3050Ti even recent ones...

Thank you for the research, as an artist I prefer z13

Can you please do a new version of this exact same video for the Acronym Z13 and the 2023 X13. Thank you Sir.

Any idea if the rog flow x13 6900hs is good for music production? I mainly use ableton/fl studio with vst such as omnisphere/keyscape/kontakt libary

how is the pen performance of the 13Z compared to the zenbook flip? i read reviews rnqging fron non useable to the same/better

I really love your way describe the difference, it really help a lot

Waiting for the x13 with ryzen 7k. Hoping they go back to the nvidia gpu and the external. I like the simple and clean look of the x13

I think the z13 is a bit too heavy for an everyday tablet, what is your opinion Matthew?

I wish the z13 has a surface book keyboard optio. Or a more sturdy keyboard like the brydge to make it easier to use on your laps.

I bought the Asus Rog scar 17 2022 model. Let me say this, holy shit that thing games like a pro

since they have the same screens, what is the response time like? more then anything I'm off put by the response time I'm reading of 30ms

Sir have you tried connecting it to external monitor without the XG MOBILE?

Which one better for video and photo editing for professional use?

Worthy watch 🔥

Hello again. The same person who asked for a 3d modeling benchmarks list in your videos. Some of the common apps r Auto CAD, solid works, Auto desk 3d max and MATLAB. The reason I'm asking it is that I think there r a lot of engineering students like me who cannot afford workstation laptops so then they'll lean towards gaming laptops. Either way much obliged to u for the effort and reading the comments. Definitely appreciated. Tnx again

I want Z13 with Ryzen 9 6900HX and no dGPU. As power unrestricted integrated 680m is pretty close to 40W power starved RTX 3050. But not having that extra chip and power delivery leaves much more space inside for other things. Be it more efficient cooling. Bigger battery. Other/Full NVMe. ... (And apparently, gives potential for lighter device.) Secondly, one can go and buy external GPU box which is what is reasonable use of current Z13 variants. And then at low power draw side, AMD is currently better than intel, while Intel is better at high power draws. So mobility would be better. And Price? Just subtract price of RTX 3050. It would be winner on so many fronts. But from latest interview with Robert Hallock where he did talk about design wins, I have feeling that AMD did no score any "Tablet"/"2-in-1" devices and all we can look for are touch enabled devices with 360° rotation.

Does the rear camera have an acceptable quality? 8MP in the spec sheet. Not so high.

Could the Z13 be used in a school environment to write on with a Pen? And how does that feel?

Efficiency > absolute performance any day of the week. This is why Apple Silicon is such a brilliant architecture - not because it bests the very best components (it doesn’t always), but because it competes using a fraction of the power. It makes both AMD and Intel look power-hungry, but Intel especially even with 12th gen and a 10nm process has a lot of catching up to do. Looking for maximum “frames per second” is useful for desktop comparison but I really like addressing battery life, fan noise, and live-ability with portable devices like these. Good job as always Matt!

interesting spec is x13 with integrated graphics because they are comperable to gtx1650 and possible more efficient

日本語で失礼します。 日本でもASUS Flowシリーズが販売されているのですが、あなたのような視点で比較している youtuberがあまりいないためとても参考になりました。 バッテリー問題はノートPCの宿命であり、そこに着眼することはとても良いことだと思います。 自宅メインＰＣはすでにあり、あくまでサブで外に持ち運びすることを考えて1gでも軽くしたいと思っていました。 X13も検討したいと思います。

I would go for the X13

Can you upgrade the RAM on the Z13 2023 model? I read it has 16GB only, is that soldered? Some sites claim it has 2x SO-DIMM? Please can you clarify this....

do maya,photoshop and after effects work fine without any issues ?

Already have the x13 and it is amazing 🤘🏻

I feel like the x13 is the wiser choice for me, but the z13 looks just really cool 🤩🙈

Which is the windows theme you have there? Tnx!

Very cool, I have the g15 this may be an easier choice once I start traveling for work

Thanks👍🏾

X13 for battery life and a really nice combo with the 6850m

Is the z13 or the x13 better for school work and a little bit of gaming?

I got the M16 this year, got a bit (or rather) disappointed with the battery life, which literally sucks. Really looking foward to the X13 getting a RTX3060 or a RX6700S, if there's enough internal space in future models. I could really use some extra VRAM, since Forza Horizon is what I mainly play. Also I hope the screens can get a better response time.

Soldered on memory is a killer for me.

1:40 The x13 has a USB A 3.2 gen 2 type C port (10 gigabits per second) whereas the z13 has a USB A 2.0 port because there wasn’t enough room internally for the cable to connect a USB 3.0 port or higher…

I have a old surface Pro 3 and noticed that the price of the z13 has reduced from £1800 to £1400. Would this discount make the z13 a good choice over a newer surface pro as I like that it imitates the Microsoft surface pro form factor. Thank you for your opinion. Craig

Don't forget Z13 has thunderbolt port

Kinda wonder why they didn't make the X13 look as cool 🤔

Hey Matthew, do you have any news on whether or not the Z13 will have stylus support?

According to the benchmarks, as a motion and graphic designer should i go for the Z13? Is there any other 2in1 laptop like those from Asus Rog and Microsoft Surface?

What is the chassis of x13 made out of? Thanks.

I'm a student, so I really want that tablet feeling. But 90% of the comments say that the X13 is the better choice. Is there any other student here (or with similar concerns) that tried the Z13 for thoughts? Or decided to go for the X13 and thinks they made the better choice?

Well I am looking forward to Z13 as it has a removable keyboard so I can use it as a tablet

I picked up the Z13 4k i9-12900H with the XG mobile Dock just so it will match the new ROG PHONE 6 PRO.

Is there one with a P3 display?

does the x13 have a thermal issue/cooling issue?

As a filmmaker and graphic designer should I buy a Asus ROG Flow X13 13,4" or Asus ROG Flow Z13 13,4" or Asus ROG Zephyrus M16 16?? 🤔🙈

Thanks

With current prices I would suggest the Z13 over the X13

This X13 specifically the GV301QE one has terrible wifi card. I'm using one right now and it's very unstable. constantly dropping, sometimes I hae to reboot to get it to work. Very very annoying and disruptive.

Im a x13 user, let me say the paint of the laptop started not fading but falling apart so, now when i look at my laptop i feel like it got some really creepy skin disease. The enxt thing is, it gets hot,, tablet mode and hot dont go together, the touch pen is actually not bad but the problem is the laptop touch screen which has a really bad issue of palm rejection.. i thought i would use tablet mode more often but i just dont feel the tab experiance with the keybord keys clicking while holding it in the tab mode.. its so freaking annoying

So for design and using a stylus which one you think?

I picked up a Flow X13 on a great deal at best buy. I didn't know it had a touch screen or that it folded back when I bought it, but I was amazed when I found out. How do you get 9 hours of usage? I can only get about 2-3 hours. Please reply. Edit: 2-3 hours surfing the web.

How about 2k and 4k with the egpu?

Inside the propriety connector?

can you review the Galaxt Book2 Pro plz

Hmm... still deciding on the legion go or this 😭

Good review Mr. Matthew. I prefer X13 over Z13 any day since it's more value for money option. Also, X13 is future proof since its hardware is under the keyboard just like in any other laptops, whereas the Z13 has all its hardware including the battery under the display which is very risky. If its battery bulges or leaks, the whole hardware is prone to damages along with the battery, then you just have to throw the device away and get yourselves a new device. Also, the Z13 can't be used on your laptop like a normal laptop, you have to place it on a stable surface if you want to use the keyboard. You haven't covered the stylus in your comparison. I'm a student and I use my Galaxy Tab S7 for my note-taking and my laptop for all other windows related stuff which is burdensome if you wanna carry both devices. So, I'm planning to get myself a 2 in 1. I have researched some decent 2 in 1s like Samsung Galaxy Book 2 Pro 360, HP Spectre, MS Surface Pro 9 etc. but they all fall short in some important areas like performance, storage, os, price, stylus. Some devices are exorbitantly priced and some are heavy if you choose a higher specced variant. The X13 seems to be a capable all rounder but I'm not sure how its stylus performs and how optimised its apps are for tablet experience. I wanna know how it performs in apps like MS OneNote, Word, S Notes etc. but unfortunately no one seems to talk or make videos in this aspect.

Should have waited for z13. I got my zephyrus g14 2021 last year and im not sure if its worth the upgrade. But that xg mobile, man...

I've watched so many videos. Can someone please tell me in plain language whether the asus x13 2n1 laptop will run my games like tomb raider and horizon without the mobile gpu. I don't want and cant afford the mobile gpu. but I want a 2in1 that I might as well be able to play games on. thanks

I have a doubt Matthew Moniz I would like to buy a desktop. Which one is better and what you prefer for me for a programmer ?

In conclusion If ur getting the xg mobile get the z13 If ur just buying the laptop get the x13