Apologies for late correction. Ahmed Baba was a Berber within the Songhai Empire. To the point he did not mention his own ethnic group as being qualified for enslavement.
OH MY!! So glade you re-uploaded this video as more people will be searching for this topic/content. Particularly, after the death of Elizabeth and the question of reparations. Their FIRST rebuttal is ALWAYS “Well Africans sold slaves too.” Thank you!
Great video HTH, however, it was and still remains our ability to disassociate and have contrary interests amongst ourselves as black people that lead to our undoing from attacks from outside forces and groups!
Africans were still selling other Africans regardless of the tribal differences... it's just pure evilness to do that to another human being. I know Europeans did the same to each other but their countries are nowhere near as screwed up as the continent of Africa. Someone will pay for these evil deeds to humanity.
@@amehka5416 It seems you may be completely missing the *Thesis* here. Tribal warfare - be it on any Continent and amongst any ethnic groups - historically has resulted in taking captives (or prisoners of war). It's these captive/conquered peoples who often became the subservient Caste (or class) within the conquers society.
So what difference does it make if they lie about your history or if you lie about your history? Historical research is mostly guestimation anyway, the further back you go, the more you realize it is simply conjecture and fables and hearsay
@@philabustahblue5532 The main reason that many of dont know or appreciate Hannibal of Carthage is due to the fact that the community he was said to represent got purged out of existence similar to the people of KM.T., and the current stock of Tunisians have no connections to the then Carthagian civilization from which he was brought up and therefore cant be bothered or probably doesnt intetest them to promote his accomplishments. Although more recently authentic historians from all across the world have made geniune attempts to appreciate Hannibal, they even made a film about him. Yes, that makes a world of a difference. Eventhough much of the facts may have got lost in translation, The Western media and many an authentic author ought to be given their due respect when in comes to citing the story of Hannibal of Carthage. Hannibal was a North African Roman citizen and something to behold when let loose onto the field of battle. Hannibal was an ancient Tunisian citizen of Rome; one that put the fear of his nation into all his warmongering foes, which understandably would inlude Rome. i.e Sagutum, Cannae e.t.c Its important to note that the demographics of the North of Africa has change drastically, so much so, that the Nubian communities that Hannibal is said to represent were eventually dispossessed of the country after failing to ward off multiple attack from both West Asian and Eurocentric warmongers. These thousands upon thousands of years in the past sporadic attacks on the Northern parts of Africa i.e Egypt, Morrocco, Tunisia e.t.c eventually wore down the resolve of the inhabittants of that region and after countless battles and thousands upon thousands of years past, the community that raised Hannibal is probably no more. The change in demographic along the thousands upon thousands of years whereby the control of these areas passed hands from West Asian fundamentalist to Eurocentrics, back and forth and back again; eventually leadingto the current stock of North Africans that we have on the continent today.
The Romans attacked everyone because they were professional warmongers. The Romans probably owned the first ever known professional soldiers to be let into a conflict situation. According to most historians, the average Roman soldier was always smug, a snob, and wholly impossible. Yet, you seem to be conflating the exploits of Rome with Colonisation and the Transatlantic slave trade, there's no direct connection.
@@adeamujale That's an impressive story. The versions are varied and many. What I do is put the versions together and take out the unlikely parts. The story I read of Hannibal was he was he was smart but also vicious and cruel. He totally disowns these scenarios of the African/Arab bunch being fair and nice and all. I've even read stories of the conquerors letting the Spanish continue on as usual and did not try to change them. Logic: You don't attack people to be nice to them. That would be one in a million. Next!
This video attempts to educate those who make the “disingenuous” statement that Blacks sold other Blacks, but the statement isn’t wrong, despite the lack of knowledge one may have around slavery pre-imperialism/colonialism. The fact remains: African leaders sold African slaves to Europeans who then brought those slaves to the Americas. This statement is not wrong. This is precisely what occurred. Mentioning that Romans enslaved other Europeans does not negate the fact that Africans sold other Africans, irrespective of which tribes or empires did the selling. The consequences of the latter was much more insidious than the former.
Stop the bullcrap because you're trying to paint the "Black on Black" narrative. He had already pointed out that certain African tribes were selling their enemies from other tribes. He also pointed out how some Europeans were kidnapping citizens and making them slaves but you're being as disingenuous as the people he referred to at the beginning of the video because you've conveniently skipped that part.
Are you for real? There were no Africans in the past as there no Europeans. Stop looking at history from an African Union or European Union perspective. What you call "tribes" or "ethnic groups" were much more than that. They were independent kingdoms. Kingdoms who defer in religion, culture, laws and language and leadership. In Nigeria alone, there are about 400 ethnic nationalities -- not "groups" please. Nationalities with different languages, customs, cultures, religions. It's the same with all other countries in Africa. We were kingdoms before Britain and their neighbors came to the continent do their "thing".
No the Japanese were elitist who thought they were superior TOO EVERYONE. Europeans suffer from the tropical diseases in Africa to this day. So you expect me to believe they were skipping around Africa in the 16th century?
Janine Landham I’m talking about a medieval European who didn’t know about the America’s, could not possibly navigate the continent that they knew nothing about with diseases they weren’t immune to (even today) Without the assistance of the native population. Even right now Group’s in Africa are involved in aiding the Arabs in their slave trade (that predated and outlasted the transatlantic and continues as we speak). The problem is ppl on all sides want to focus on narrative instead of the fact that the Human race and is tree of “ethnicities” are fucked up and no one has moral high ground. Trying to justify slavery at all in any capacity is dumb. Doesn’t matter if it’s race based or not. No man is to rule any other man.
@@randosmallfoot2132 ancient civilization has known about the Americas... Tupac amaru shakur was a asian descendant an Inca king, also the Japanese became imperialist because they saw what the British, german, spanish, Dutch were doing, they said to themselves we either invade and conquer or we wait for them to invade and conquer us...
I agree! All black people should live by this.My awesome father would always say those exact words to me since I was 5 years old.I'm 52 now and I still live by those very words today!
Nell Noogle most of the fighting was done either in Europe (whites killing whites) or in Asia (Asians killing Asians), the only time where two nations of different races fought each other in a large scale was between Japan and America, and it’s death toll didn’t even near the one between european nations and the ones between Japan and the other Asian countries
This video is the perfect example of "spin". Sir, when we quit playing semantics, the historical fact is that Africans ardently participated in the TAST.
The devil speak through you. However, now that you've made your comments here and other places where the trailer review of The Woman King is shown, what now? What's next for your seeming empty life? I hope you live forever, unchanged.
@@The10thManRules WE NEVER HEAR ABOUT THE WHITE SLAVERY ERA ! BECAUSE THEY MOVED ON ! THEY MOVED FORWARD. THEY SAID IT WAS WRONG FOR THOSE LONG-DEAD WHITE PEOPLE TO DO WHAT THEY DID TO THOSE OTHER LONG-DEAD WHITE PEOPLE AND MOVED ON ! WE DIDN'T.. WE STILL CRY ABOUT WHAT A BUNCH OF DEAD PEOPLE DID TO A BUNCH OF OTHER DEAD PEOPLE 250 YEARS AGO.. WE ARE NOT THOSE PEOPLE! LETS MOVE ON !! AND THEY ARE CRYING ABOUT REPARATIONS TOO.. WHO THE HELL WANTS A F****IN MULE ANYWAY? WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL WE WERE NOT BORN IN SOME DIRTY HOT-ASS VILLAGE IN AFRICA SOMEWHERE.
I paid $25,000 per year to attend a PWI and it took a $100 history class at a community college for me to learn the truth. That professor said your words verbatim 10 years ago.
I will not say it was a waste of your time and money what I will say research to find out who was the first upright intelligent civilized human on the planet Earth
Yeah, but my professor said the opposite? So who is right? There is a also a documentary that I can link here and you can check it out that says they were.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ajI8lkYdmAk.html
You look like a nice kid. I am west African and I am from the part of West Africa where slaves were sold from. People got rich selling slaves to the Europeans. Places like Bonny, and Opobo are littered with alcohol carafes, european period furniture, cannons and so on. I understand your world view but you are regurgitating what your university professor taught you. Just for your information, there are about 100,000 slaves in Africa today - don't worry, it may be, as you say, the right kind of slavery.
For instance.....South Sudanese were slaves in North Sudan for years and years. They would raid South Sudan as recently as a few years ago to get their slaves. North Sudan is black and Muslim. South Sudan is pagan and had some Christians.
Lance Payne 😂 you the one acting like a bitch, cuz you not trynna hear the truth. This also inspired me to do research and black people didn’t even abolish slavery all the way until the 2000’s in some countries.
New Life Ministries Church Roby, Missouri or Canadians selling U.S. Americans. It’d be like saying North Americans selling North Americans. It sounds ridiculous.
Not for people who didn’t identify themselves as Africans. He literally described why it was different, while acknowledging tribes had and sold slaves. Doesn't make what Europeans did their chattel better. Slavery was not the same in treatment and mindset. Fake science and miseducation of the countries citizens wasn't implemented in order to make people ignorant and believe skin color is what decides mortality or if a person was a human being. Slavery has sadly been here millenniums and has existed within all "races". We don't hear the world teaching about Europeans that enslaved Europeans because for some reason that's when it's okay to identify them as different peoples🙄
Jay Cee haha I always thought that blacks did sell blacks but then I started to think like Africa was capitalized and I seen files of Arabic’s selling Africans I
I believe, He is commenting about the fact that the East African slave trade was for larger and existed for far longer than the West African slave trade but for some reason it is Europeans that receive the blame for Black Slavery.
“Those guilty of slavery” That vast majority of people are not responsible for slavery. The slave trade was abolished over 200 years ago. Just because you have white skin does not make you responsible for slavery.
Your work is brilliant! i was born in Africa, but some of the stuff you talk about i did not know. Old Africa wasn't perfect, and you can find examples of Africans selling other Africans, but on the whole, Africans did not hate people from other tribes. War captives were taken in Africa, but European history is far more violent than African history. How many French and Italian women were raped and sold during the hundred years war ? you will be shocked. look up an English man named John Hawkwood and his activities in Italy. It will give you sleepless nights. The history books talk about the African kings who handed over war captives from other tribes. An unforgivable crime, but how come they never talk about the African kings who totally refused to sell their war captives to the slave traders? and there were many. The ancient Africans did not view themselves as BLACK, black did not exist in Africa, but they understood the evils of slavery. Many of the African kings and queens agreed to hand over their war prisoners because they knew if they didn't their own people would be taken. They had guns to their heads. My own tribe, made a deal with the British in the Nineteenth century. We didn't hand over any people, thank God! the slave trade was over by then, but the deal was made because we knew we couldn't win a military battle against them. Do you know what Shaka Zulu did when they told him they wanted to take captives to work as forced farm laborers? he banned all Europeans from Zulu land. They never talk about these defenses of the African African people. The kingdoms of Africa largely protected the African people. The slave trade happened because the African kingdoms were destroyed and defeated. it was after that that slave caravans roamed freely all over Africa. The kingdoms of Angola, Queen Nzinga's people, fought the Portuguese for centuries. Slave trading was punishable by DEATH. It was after military defeat that gangs with gangs went around freely kidnapping people. How is that collaboration?. Many of the people of Angola fled after their defeat into inner Africa. Many of them asked to join our Tribe. We accepted them as brothers and sisters. That was centuries ago, but we never forgot. My mother has pointed out to me which members of the tribe came from Angola. The crazy African mentality was created during three periods. The destruction of the kingdoms, slavery, and colonialism. Thank God it is passing. Africa is getting better, mentally and economically. Much of it has to do with people relearning their history. You are doing vital work. The African Union tried for many years to stop the war in Sudan and failed. The mental damage was to deep. Do you know what caused a change? African-Americans. The success of African- Americans, especially the rappers, made the Sudanese proud to be of African origin again. For the first time in CENTURIES. Now many Africans, not just Sudanese, are re discovering the richness of African culture. MOST AFRICANS DO NOT KNOW THEIR TRUE HISTORY. They believe civilization came with the Europeans and Arabs. Keep up the good work brother. You are a true griot. Africans are not guilty of selling their own people, but they are guilty of not protecting them. DEFEAT of our ancient kingdoms is what caused the horrors of the slave trade, not collaboration. But Africa is getting stronger. We have a united army now, countries like Egypt have many modern jets in their airforce, South Africa has a home grown anti missile defense system that is sold all over the world, even in Europe. The African middle class is three hundred million strong. I have rambled on to long. Peace brother.
Joseph Kongwa eeuuhh... «inner Africa» plz explain? «Angola» wasn’t even a kingdom -.- Angola is the result of the mispronunciation from Portuguese settlers of the title of the king -> Ngola in Kimbundu No stop using Nzinga’s name to push your narrative she didn’t fight for "Black" folks nor every Africains she fought only to defend the Ambundu people HER PEOPLE! If you aren’t Mbundu your ma probably lied to you too or just didn’t know any better, are you Congolese? Angola is a COUNTRY composed of a widespread of different ethnic groups from DIFFERENT KINGDOMS who all fought for their OWN! Nothing wrong with that... And yes there WAS hate between different groups already such as Ambundu people(Nzinga’s) despised the Kongo kingdom and it’s people because they were UNDER the domination of Kongo and wanted separation! No slavery was not something punishable by death because if that was the case the Imbagala(Jaga) people wouldn’t of THRIVED OFF SELLING AND DESTROYING THEIR ENNEMIS! They had no loyalty to no one but themselves. Does that mean that they were evil? No unless you decide to interpret it in a 21century way. Even Nzinga herself sold prisoners to the Portuguese AND the Dutch(who she had alliances with) she even WROTE IT on her letters! It was only when she overthrew Queen Mwongo of Matamba and annexed it to Ngondo, that she started recruiting runaway slaves and Portuguese trained soldiers ONLY because she wanted to STRENGTHEN HER KINGDOM not out of benevolence! Even the king of Loango had slaves, in fact he had one he was sooo fond of that he decided to have his painting done. Don’t whitewash Angola’s deep and complex history none of our rulers (from different kingdoms because ANGOLA DIDN’T exist at the time) are celebrated for being saints but for standing up to their beliefs and for THEIR OWN PEOPLE!
Antonia Capella Borges in america in south carolina where my family is from bavili,umbundu,bakongo, bateke,baluba,were all lumped together as "angolas" and the same groups in florida were called "congos"
John Dough yeah I know that South Carolina received a lot of people from the Congo-Angola region and that they were the most hotheaded 😂 But it’s less than likely that there were Balubas (my dad’s ethnic group) probably less than 1% because our empire only fell during the 19th century due to Swahili invasions. They were more likely to be Balundas or Chokwes because they also consider themselves Lubas
You're really opening the eyes of many people. I feel like scales fall off everytime I learn from these videoes. Thank you for educating those who want this.
When you’ve caught on quickly to how Harriet Tubman could’ve been bait and switch propaganda due to people being academically repressed. Such, as when there’s a trend in revolutionary rhetoric stating “we” should be like Malcolm X or Nat Turner all while such individuals aren’t aware there’s an organization keeping track of and monitoring such trending ideologies🤦🏽♂️
Africa is never my home. WHY DID THEY SELL US TO WHITES IF WE ARE THEIR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ????? Nigerians never sold Nigerians. Ghanaians never sold Ghanaians. They sold Black Hebrews who came from Israel to Africa to get free from their enemies. Thanks for selling us Africa, Deuteronomy 28.
Furthermore you had black ppl in southern Europe living well off. And im not saying living well off versus the africans but living well off compared to white europeans. Also living culturally different from those who were on both continents.
Slavery in many African countries was a way of paying off a debt and serving time as a PoW. It was a different model to the Atlantic slave trade. But that was covered in the video.
@Brad Beauchamp And what your saying isn't propanganda? Please! Consider listening again, especially where he says,(paraphising here) to put in context eg. 17th Century ideas about who is, the "other", religion, culture etc. with 20st Century thinking. Although this conversation that you here... I beg to differ, seems like there has been miniscule movement at best, if any at all. A mind IS a terrible thing to waste! Tsktsktsk
@Brad Beauchamp All this deflecting is unnessary. Since you suggested, "I go read a book". What book or books do you suggest I read that will back up your premise?
@Brad Beauchamp I'll read it but why all this anger. Is it not possible for you to have a simple debate without all this unessary, bating? Are you capable of that?
@Brad Beauchamp oh, here we go with the communism thing. I'm waiting on the socialist, fascist, or Marxist words to follow. Get a new vocabulary bro. The one your using now played out after the cold war!
redliquorice - Just to tag on to your point: "Race" is a "reified" White societal construct. "Reification" is when you take an abstract concept and behave (by pretending) as if the abstract concept is true. Concepts are tools and tools serve a purpose. Here are some questions as food for thought:- 1) Why did Whites reify the abstract concept of "race"? 2) Are you familiar with Dr Frances Cress Welsing's "The Cress Theory of Color Confrontion and Racism (White Supremacy) that was inspired by the thoughts of Mr Neely Fuller Jr? 3) Are you familiar with "The Hardy-Weinberg Equilibrium" and the assumptions necessary to maintain it? 4) How do so called White people STAY "white"? 5) What do so called White people have to do to people they classify as non-White (Black etc) for White people to STAY "white" on a planet where most or 90% of the people are NOT "white", and which group of non-white people would be the the greatest threat to White people STAYING "White"?
Thank you brother. I am from Ghana and i keep explaining to people here in the states . I even get frustrated. I even tell folks the whole of Europe is like West Africa and we a very much diverse. I will keep doing my part to educate. I really love what you do and would love to meet you some day.
Yep, as a black person in the states, it's unfortunately a product of black American isolationism and the projection of black hope in a pure image of African set up by Europeans just to get tore down with the truth, yet instead of actually listening to the full history, people leave once another preconception is set keeping us trapped in the foreigner mindset.
Everybody has been enslaved on a small scale or large scale at some point in history. To think that it wouldn’t happen amongst Africans would be foolish
ZeroTurn but if the most recent and therefor memorable period of slavery wasn’t taught and brought to light, then the wouldnt whites be demonised for hiding history? And they were not taught perpetuity by school, state or law? So did that mentality come from home or?
@@zeroturn7091 Yes entire generations and entire regions of whites, asians, africans, middle eastern, pacific islanders have been enslaved. The human history has been around for tens of thousands of years. Africans themselves had slaves from other African tribes during war and conflict within their disputed territories. Same with Native indians, Aztec Indians, Mayan and Incan indians. It was common to have slaves from whatever dispute to the victor. It is part of human history. Africans sold out other africans for power, europeans bought and kidnapped slaves, it is a terrible story of the human nature. Blaming people today for mistakes done generations ago is the same for any african tribal dispute considering another tribe as slaves for the foreseeable future. Today people enslave others mentality.
Chris V the problem with your theory is the black tax dollars help pay reparations to Italians, Jews, and Japanese under the Reagan administration. On top of the fact that an order was written during the emancipation proclamation for the freed slaves to receive 40 acres. But Andrew Johnson ripped that order up and gave that land back to the people that fought against America. The holocaust didn’t happen in America and only lasted for 12 years but the tax dollars of blacks help fund reparations for them
@@someguy4405 I'll bring it all up, whether it comes from the Ottomans, the Egyptians, the Romans, the British or the Moors, the Mongols etc. Slavery is slavery and there should be no favouritism to which one is talked about.
Kwaku Appiyah Surely it’s better to improve the lives of the slaves today rather than to keep banging on about something that happened hundreds of years ago.
Not only that time. Even today. I have lived in South Africa for 3 years. It's a very tribalistic society with more than ten major black tribal groups plus the whites. Do you know which group is the most hated that no tribe associates with, marries into etc? It's not the whites, it's the Zulus. That should tell you all you need to know.
@@shadearca he doesn’t know any better, clearly. Probably never been outta his own element long enough to know that humans have been doing stuff way long than Americans. He’s probably one of those who argue the we were in America first bs, yet has zero to show for it.
Hi Home Team, I'm from Cameroon, and our ancestors through verbal tradition passed down to us that the Northern Africans led the Europeans in the inner villages to capture people for slavery. This is not taught nor spoken about. Since they did not read or write, they passed on the verbal tradition aka the Truth!
Facts! It all began as the Northerners aka Arabs, Turks aka Ottoman and Persians moved in to spread Islam by the sword all over Africa while furthering their empires. The Romans and Greeks saw that and bought in.
Those's Northern Africans were Moors , the Arabianize Moors allowed Europeans to enslave their own Moroccan Nationals. But they wasn't Black, Moors are Asiatics with an Olive complexion. There's no such people or person as Black. Black is a status, a slave label to identify the people they enslaved.
@@jeffbillings-el6110 Muslims were enslaving Africans since they invaded Africa in 8th century upto 20th century. Europeans learned African slave trade from Muslim invaders. The African slaves were called "kafirs" by the Muslim slavers since they traded pagan and christian africans.
@@jeffbillings-el6110 nonsense....moors are black. They north African who are really all Europeans from the Russian and Russian fringe states that now call themselves Arabs all over north Africa and the so called middle east are the ones who showed the way and brought their fellow Europeans into mainland to capture and buy slave. They are not true or genuine Africans, they are all indigenous Europeans, they are the Africans the west is using to try and shift blame and say it was Africans selling other Africans to them.....give yourself some brain and independent reasoning ability....the question you should be asking is....why did the European accept to buy other people. If I offered to sell you a corpse, do you have to accept to buy it? If there is no buyer, there is no market, furthermore, get out your map book and look at the distance these European sailed from their homeland the long way round by the seas just to buy and enslave other human beings....that is desperate, sociopathic and psychotic. Whether by Arabs or by black people, the Europeans should not have come there to ship people away against their will with violence. Black is used to describe all with brown and black skin whilst white is used to describe people with yellow or pinkish-yellow skin colour with hair that don't clump together like the hairs on the tail of a horse and with same colours as the different color of horses we have. No one is white....that is being delusional but there so many Africans with black skin that are really black. The fact that they term is used to describe enslaved people does not prevent it from being an accurate description of people
Good of you to include the info about “pink” slaves. Lots of people are ignorant of that fact. I would also describe (as a white person) this European slavery, as whites selling whites. You’re differentiating the Africa tribes, so yes, the tribes weren’t selling themselves, but they were selling “othered” Africans. The Arabs were some of the biggest sellers of slaves of many races. Thomas Sowell has some great reading on the subject.
Hi I am Cyprian. I just watched your podcast and I HAD to respond with my thoughts. I am a 57 year old black West Indian man from and currently living on the island of Barbados. I will not portend to be any great scholar on history or even an enthusiast(?) and well informed as yourself on the particulars of African history, BUT..... I think I am old enough and intelligent enough to challenge your assertion that the idea of "blacks" selling "blacks" was and is a fallacy. First. You readily accept and assert the diversity of African peoples and thus justify the reasons for their practice of slavery and then REFUSE to do so for European slavery. YOU say that "nobody" speaks of "whites" enslaving "whites" but I do and thus would make NO distinction between the two. Indeed slAver is slavery is slavery ANYWHERE and all across the world and REGARDLESS of time. The RULES may be different and change and evolve from place to place. The conditions may be more barbaric and restrictive on one place or another and the possibility of "release" or mobility and rise in social status will also vary from place to place and over time, but it is ALL the same in the end. Like you I have heard YOUR arguments before that somehow American chattle slavery was so very different and unique from any other type of oppression practiced any where else so as to make it the only "real" slavery worth talking about. You are making the exact and same mistake you are accusing those others of doing when choosing not to speak of white slavery of the ancient world's. Indeed, it was because of the very scale and scope of the trans Atlantic slave trade and the clash with the European ideas of "equality" and humanity as ordered by God that they then had to create new ideas of superiority based solely on skin color to justify to themselves what they were doing. So everything was alright in the eyes of their God. Indeed it is a part of our sad history that the very rules of controlling slaves under chattel slavery in N. America originated right here in Barbados. For the ENTIRE world and (most) of time slavery was an accepted and practiced way of life. Under whatever justification and whatever reasoning and whatever guise and disguise it comes in. In India the caste system enforced the separation by class on religious principles so someone born as an untouchable was as locked into their life opportunity even more than a born slave in Roman Europe or any Africa kingdom. A whote sex slave today is better off than a Chinese sex slave or Japenese Gesha of yesterday? When we learn to accept that HUMANS did and do this to other HUMANS for whatever reasons they can cook up only then can we look in the mirror and FIX this world and our selves. Regards Cyprian La Toiche When we learn to accept that there is the evil
Cyprian La Touche very well said sir... your use of common knowledge and history has sadly been ignored by the ignorant masses. I hope more people see your message but sadly the majority of people are thick and even if they do will choose to ignore or simply fail to comprehend.
Didn’t read your comment just the first bit but I’m pretty sure he wasn’t justifying slavery just debunking the idea that “blacks enslaved blacks so y’all did it to your self” because there weren’t no “y’all” just as whites from different regions are viewed differently blacks somehow aren’t heck some think Africa is a country.
Great video. I went to an HBCU and had to do a thesis paper on the Brazilian slave trade, and had to do background research on the Atlantic Slave Trade. Very shocked by what I learned and was even more shocked by the lack of awareness by my classmates and some professors on the actual history of the African Slave trade.
@@carloscarloss6667 You and @dr_1758 are asking for links when this person hasn't provided 'dates of attendance'. Which means this RESEARCH could have been PHYSICAL: books, documentaries, libraries and all those types of mediums. Why are you A-SSUM-ING this person even had ACCESS to the Internet? The oldest HBCU was founded in 1837. When you talk about College attendance in the somewhat *_VAGUE or NEUTRAL way_* this person did, you have to remember that you can't SEE them... could easily be a MUCH OLDER graduate or FULL OF IT! lol
Well, I kind of thought everyone understood that it was Africans selling Africans from opposing tribes. Why would you sell your own people when you can profit from selling the guy in the next tribe over? Makes total sense back then but sounds insane today.
@Pomfromoz Probably right, such punishments for criminals have been recorded in many civilizations. After all prisons to punish persons did not really exist.
@@Tareltonlives Watch the movie "Cool Hand Luke" if you want to see the old chain gang AKA prison labor system. Today prison is mostly just a world apart, a place of isolation from society.
This was very insightful, and I learned to view the history of the slave trade with the appropriate context. Africans did not view themselves as one back then, so they did what the Romans did. It actually makes sense when you put it like that. As an African, I attest that we can’t expect the rest of the world to treat us with equality until we can treat each other that way. History is a great educator, as it were.
Dude, forget the "we". YOU can always expect to be treated as equal and it has nothing to do with what may happen in some place on the globe. Treating others with respect is a question of honor.
Slavery in the Sahel states of Mauritania, Mali, Niger, Chad and Sudan in particular, continues a centuries-old pattern of hereditary servitude. Other forms of traditional slavery exist in parts of Ghana, Benin, Togo and Nigeria.
Seriously? You might have to get your mind un-enslaved. Every African is a bonafide human who deserves to be respected and treated as equal to other humans - regardless of how he/she treats other Africans. Same applies to other people. Please do yourself a favor and value yourself as human.
@@awesomeamaka IF YOU THINK EVERY AFRICAN MUST BE TREATED AS A HUMAN THEN GO TO AFRICA AND TRY AND FREE THEM !! THEY DID IT IN THE USA !! THATS MY POINT !! EVERYONE SHOULD BE HAPPY THAT SLAVERY WAS ABOLISHED HERE !! GO GO NOW ! SAVE THEM !! WE DID IT HERE !!
When someone brings up that "black people were selling black people" in the trans-atlantic slave trade, it begs the question of who exactly was buying and creating such great market demand for the product.
Thats like blaming inner city crackheads for illegal drugs being brought in from South America and Mexico...Dont blame the drug cartels for all of the deaths and headless bodies in Suarez roadside ditches
I FINALLY understood what you meant at the very end. You should’ve had an analogy: it’s like Texans wouldn’t sell other Texans. They’d capture Oklahomans and sell them. Even though they “look similar” (skin tone, etc), they’re culturally different so they’re “legally” allowed to sell them.
@@Anton680xThe author of the video said it over and over again. You're thinking of it from a 21st century perspective rather than in the context of the 15th century. This requires an understanding of what chattel slavery on the Americas/Caribbean was.
I’ve always felt this. The white man could have never conquered and made slaves out of the African blacks by themselves being a handful of whites in two or three ships at a time. We as Africans are so tribal that we would do anything to eliminate another tribe from war with them to capturing and selling them into slavery. African slavery is a sad history that I wish we could have broken the chain of the disassociation we seem to have with our own race from Africa and even to this day we as American blacks still hate on each other to a certain degree from complexion differences and religion , to status quo and financial level. We need to learn to love one another enough to not want harm to come to them regardless of differences at some point in our society.
I think he's missing a huge part of the Transatlantic slave trade story. Europeans didn't just show up in West Africa one day and there was a Market for them to buy and sell slaves. Europeans first encounter with our ancestors had nothing to do with slavery and for centuries prior to the Transatlantic slave trade Europeans and West Africans negotiated trade of resources not humans
With all due respect Mr Sandman, the brother tactfully and deliberately addresses a specific denotation of the west African slave trade during the timeframe between the 13th to 16th centuries as it has been misconstrued. He detailed specific distinctions between slavery, and the subtext of how that lie has been purposely proclaimed in order to perpetuate the continued abuse of these descendants of wu tang...pun intended. If you’re not apart of the solution, you’re apart of the problem.
now I understand what my Nigerian friend meant. my American eyes lied to me, Africa is more diverse throughout the country, Different tribes/ people. true blessing brother ✊ thank you.
Robert Ross people don’t realise it ... take my country for instance ... the DRC ... ex Zaïre... we have nearly 200 languages and thousands of dialects ... and the different tribes ... but in Berlin, at the conference, they didn’t think about that... they just decided who will control the “land” regardless of the people living there and their history ... they used to fight against each other and somehow, they have to live together not because they decided it, but because some white folks decided it ... but we are doing good ...
@@marysophy3665 True,even in some African countries during partition of Africa a tribe,a clan,a family would be torn between two countries creating a future and constant problem.The partition on paper looked like a line drawn in the middle of a homestead.
Nigeria alone have people who speak about 513 different languages with diverse culture and traditions. Everyone I km you travel in Nigeria means another language.
I am beginning to think that the very word slave is problematic. The word is so broad in its scope that it creates the false equivalency between old world and new world forms of involuntary servitude. This confusion then creates the basis of the black on black slavery narrative.
I thoroughly agree with your comment. A single word can mask and incorrectly encompass so many diverse realities. The word "slavery" is one of those words. There are maids in Africa right now, who are voluntary in-home servants who many Europeans would happily call slaves simply to tarnish Africa to non-Africa with the idea of "modern day slavery".
the book Destruction of Black Civilization explains it well. Tribes treated the people they caught in war totally different than what people think. People who were caught in war where still able to live a dignified life.
@@THEREAL_EATMYSHORTS he can't !! ppl don't get the fact that selling them and indentured servants are totally different... They didn't get sold to the Portuguese , they were TRICKED , they thought they were leasing them to be indentured servants , and when they realized how bad they were being treated they tried to save them but it was too late... I hate when other races try telling us about OUR history .
Idk how it's a fallacy. The Dahomey tribe participated in the slave trade. Some people don't want to believe Africans could be just as cruel and violent as their "white" counterparts. If Africans are the original slaves then it obviously means that we were probably the first to own slaves. I think the their is a clear distinction between the kinds of slaves that Africans may have owned and the racialized slavery birthed from the Atlantic slave trade.
@@Just.a.person59 ...there was another guy on another page said something deep... "When you allow another man to feed you, you're also giving him the power to starve you"
The more I hear about anti-black racism, the more I realize I never could have learned about racism in school and there is so much revisionism. It is essential to learn from ancestors and black writers and speakers from the time. I'm glad to be subscribed to learn more about very real civilizations. I'm not a historian, but I love to learn and I'm convinced your videos are well researched. I'm not a scholar to say for sure, but it's refreshing to hear history without the ever present revisionism which tempts people to mold polish historical records to fit wild ideas meant to make black genocide more palatable to any and all citizens who happen to come to western schools.
The simplification of “Blacks selling Blacks” is not based on denial. It’s a sound bite to refute the popular opinion that America alone invented slavery. Your point is clear: People have been people regardless of skin pigment. War slavery vs selling slavery seems more like a distinction without a difference to the enslaved. Thank you for your careful review of history.
chattel slavery is a different category from the war captive slavery i Africa. Chattel slavery meant your children were born enslaved generation to generation even when their fathers were also their owners. They were transported in a way that guaranteed a high mortality rate even before arriving in the Americas. The mortality rate of slaves who worked sliver mines in South America or sugar in Haiti or Cuba was ridiculously high. This was the constant consumption of humans like firewood and in terms of numbers, dehumanization and long term effects it was unprecedented.
Chattel slavery and white supremacy were the defining characteristics of the Atlantic Slave Trade that set it apart from everything else before and after it.
John Perkins These crimes took place AFTER slavery by the psychopathic racist COLLECTIVE communities in white America. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eCfGlS8el-o.html
It Isa misdirection from the truth. Just like how Kap took a knee in protest of police misconduct, brutality, murder &c and the lack of true accountability, punishment, reform, change &c was hijacked to try and make it about disrespectful of the banner (flag), anthem &c!!! Or when one says BLM ( Black Lives Matter ) another says Blue Lives Matter &c!!
Brilliant argument and a very valid point. I've always hated the term black on black violence and crime. Violence and crime are just that. Doesn't matter what color the perpetrators are.
You're missing his point. Black people, as we're understood in America and through a Pan-African lens didn't exist in those times. Nationalism and Tribalism were the dominant definitions of people.
Ahhh...I got it! It was okay for Africans to enslave and sell other Africans because they were from different nations and tribes. Like it's okay for Nigerians to enslave and sell Liberians. It's even okay for Nigerians to sell Liberians to another nation or tribe of white people from Europe. That's okay. But if that nation-tribe of white people enslave or sell those Liberians to another nation-tribe of white people, THAT is a disgusting human tragedy, even though slavery was legal in almost every nation back then and as you said we cannot judge the cultures of the past by the standards of today.
@@ezekielcaselton5842 the issue is this, he is blaming the wrong people. He and others like him are the ones who glabalise everything so as to make whites feel guilty. The argument of blacks selling blacks is always advanced to remind others that whites alone are not to blame. Humanity is to blame for slavery and we must together fight the ills of slavery. So this story that whites enslaved blacks is wrong. Humanity enslaved humanity. Now let people stop this stupid attempt to vilify whites and take their wealth in the name of reparations.
The hit everything perfectly! Many things I didn't even think or consider to put in my video. I wouldn't even feel right making a video about this anymore after seeing yours. Awesome job man!
It should probably also be pointed out that war slavery is DIFFERENT. When you go to all out war with another group and kill most of their men, there are few options left. You can go ahead and finish the job by killing the women and children too. Or you can leave them unprotected to human predators or to starve due to lack of labor. Actually, the most humane thing that you can do, in many cases, is to bring them into your society as your servants/slaves. This is far different than just enslaving people because you can't be bothered to do your own work. And most war slaves are simply absorbed into their new culture. They are not perpetual outsiders and subordinates.
well, the most humane thing to do would to not go to war in the first place and resort to slaughtering all the men in the enemy nation BUT i do get what you mean. it is probably better than starvation or raids from bandits or other criminals and broken men
Great video discussion. Thank you for covering this topic, I was born in Sierra Leone. I now live in London, UK, and this part of my African history has truly trouble me deeply. Your video has allowed me to look at this issue from a different angle, my mother's family are fulani and my father's family are Limba.
I grew up in the French education system and I never could have a voice because I felt lost... from coming to the US and learning so much from my black brothers and sisters... I gain more pride in myself and more curiosity about my ancestors... thanks for this amazing and educational channel I am learning so much... Love.
HomeTeam, your work is brilliantly put together. You are providing so many answers to questions no one previously seemed to be able to answer for me.Please know that your work is phenomenal and nourishing all members of the African Diaspora, who want understand their ancestors to a greater extent than mudhuts and Konga drums. I will be taking your courses, soon. You connect me physically, mentally and even spiritually to Africa. Your work is not in vain. I love history and now I see my ancestors and feel as though I know them and I can relate to them and embrace them; they are no longer disconnected strangers to me. This particular video was the missing link to my misconceptions of the Slave Trade. I thank God for your work.
Bravo 👏 👏 👏 to you Sir and this channel, you should be pleased. The production quality and educational history content are top-notch! Definitely plan to share your videos with my people, you are providing a great service.
however, it was and still remains our ability to disassociate and have contrary interests amongst ourselves as black people that lead to our undoing from attacks from outside forces and groups!
No no no. Blacks didn't sell blacks. Fulani sold Mande, Mandeka sold Fulani, Faan sold Yoruba. All done due to foreign destabilization of the regions of African (a.e. mass kidnapping). Do not lack proper context when addressing this issue. It might be condusive that the decendants of colonizers see us all as the same to justify or negate their tendency and compliance to cultural wickedness but that is far from the truth. The truth is that the domestic servitude demonstrated in Africa wasn't a problem because it didn't strip people of their humanity. This stripping of humanity was the main problem with slavery in the Americas. You make a critical error conflating the two.
@@AgbeODG AgbeODG so black were selling blacks, just not from their own tribe or religion. (Jesse lee AMAZING).... All do to foreign destabilization....I think you might mean civil destabilization. The songhai empire had records of slaves a good 1000 years before america came, the only people African tribes were fighting with were other African tribes. Also domestic servitude in america was no more of a problem then it was in africa. It lead to large scale production of agriculture, you should be proud, not resentful. ( I totally get there were horrible slave owners and some with compassion, the same can be said all over the world) * real question (1). I'm Australian we (my family) descend from Welsh and Scottish convicts as do a lot of people's. I've never heard anyone express resentment that our ancestors were sent here against their will. It doesn't affect us and I love Australia. Why do AA not feel the same? like Who cares style. (2) Also why refer to yourselves as African American ? After how many hundreds of years aren't you all just Americans? Do you know what region of Africa you descend from ? Know what tribe ? Have you ever visited there ? Not meaning to be rude I just don't understand the connection. I've never thought of myself as a Welsh Australian, just a Australian descending from Wales. (3) why is tribalism still a thing? I see it in gang culture on you tube. Why do young AA embrace fighting instead of learning? I can't wrap my head around it and hope you can give me a bit of insight. That's why I'm watching these videos, to try to understand
@@garyhost1830 First off, I don't hate you. So don't take this the wrong way. What is happening to black people has more to do with what has happened since slavery, than the slavery itself. American slavery was just the foundation where the church of racism was built. So instead of looking way in the past, as if to assume that this is how we have always been, I would suggest you look at more recent history if you are really sincere. Two, I know today it's the Western way to assume that all men are born equal. It's noble but it is naive. Anyone who has had their fair share of any real hardship and inequality know that. Both of our ancestors experiences are simply not the same. That's not to say that you have never had your grit tested, but I doubt you experience discrimination today based on who you are or where you are from. A culture with centuries of foundation dosent just disappear after just Two or three generations. Y'all have to accept that. theconversation.com/american-slavery-separating-fact-from-myth-79620 However way you put it, the ends don't justify the means. There are multiple accounts of slavery in America compared to the domestic servitude in Africa. So you are either lying or you really don't know; in which case, now you do. api-project-1022638073839.appspot.com/questions/how-was-slavery-different-in-africa-than-america#636500 www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part1/1i3018.html
@@AgbeODG thanks for the response. I'll check out those videos tonight. Cheers for giving me a real response instead of just getting angry and name calling. As I'm not from the USA I don't quite understand and mostly when I try to ask something I just get abused. I'll message you back tomorrow when I've watched the videos
@@Desacrates369 He's playing with words and people are deceived into believing they have learned something new. "We" (blacks) have been taught(indoctrinated) into believing that the European went to Africa and "stole black people". Roots -which is proven hoax- confirmed this half truth to millions of people. In it, (the 1970's) Europeans entered Africa and chased down Africans with nets. In reality it was a supply chain. Africa rulers rounded up slaves usually after warfare. The sold the captives to middlemen who in turn delivered them to the Coast where Europeans were waiting. Africans sold Africans. Whether they saw them as "different or not. Fredrick Douglas sited this as a reason that he didn't believe blacks should be repatriated to Africa. His comparisons to white Europeans is completely erroneous. Slavery in America was the most unique institution in the world. It came with its own laws and social and economic constructs. Why he's talking about Rome I'll never understand.
@@khalidnamar8723 Listen the problem is the 16-17th century mindset of people were just selling slaves yes it was wrong just as Romans did but romans when they bought the slaves didn't treat them differently because of color unlike white slave traders from America
At 2:50 when you start talking about how “you’ll never hear white people looking at the selling of other white people and say, what a crime,” you OBVIOUSLY don’t know any Irish people
Could we go further and postulate that Europeans were forced to buy African slaves at gun point by Africans? And were threatened with punishment if they did not mistreat the slaves they bought.
Imagine if the joker told the story of the batman. he would make himself the good guy in that story. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--91nSN76n6A.html
WRONG WE NON BLACKS DONT THINK BLACK PEOPLE ARE ALL THE SAME !! ITS ONLY WHEN BLACKS SAY "US BLACKS" IS WHEN WE THINK BLACKS ARE ALL THE SAME !! OR WHY WOULD THEY SAY "US BLACKS ' YOU NEVER HEAR PEOPLE SAY "US WHITES' UNLESS YOUR A KKK OR SKINHEAD !! !
@JACKSONVILLE RED How is that? By culture ? Or language ? Exactly how are they same ? Is an English person same with a Croatian or Arab. Are these all not similar Skin colour..... Think about it and don't Be emotional because of the narrative you are used to.
CHINA !!!!! Because that is what we were taught we can’t trace are ancestors to a certain part of Africa they striped heritage but if we were just african they would of called us that when we got off the boat but they never started calling us african until know the word african American was made in the 1980 so when u been lied to your whole life about your heritage you would feel the same way
Great video! You're spot on brother! In Pre-Colonial Africa, there was no such thing as a collective "African" or "Black" identity. Only different ethnicities, kingdoms, and empires. And you're right. We can't view the events from a 20th and 21st Century perspective. The mindset and environment were completely different than today. Keep up the good work!
That's actually exactly what i want to say when i use that argument. It was People selling People all over the world. We can't just act like white people are to blame.
@@XEveryoneLovesEmilyX LOL that's fallacy. You are missing the whole point. THEY introduced race. Had they not done that, then you could make that argument. But they made it about race. They did. Nobody else. So yes, those who created the particular dynamic can very much so be blamed for it.
@@loualbino5536 Stop making excuses for your ancestors and separate from it, only then, it will sense to forgive. Yes... coming from a sincere objective view.
you know it wasn't africans that enslaved the slaves sold across the world you can tell from all the ships left behind when the sailors died in battle to capture slaves and africans took over the seas with all the boats they got, africans instantly knewg how to sail and navigate, so they just brought them self to america and we took the boats back when they got here. you take on history TOTALLY makes sense, I believe 100% your ancesters were NOT the slavers, the dealer would never blame the users
Ok, so your basically saying that it’s wrong to say that black people sold black people into slavery, but it is ok to say Africans sold Africans into slavery. I thought he would have a good argument but this video was a waste of time.
...I appreciate your scholarship and ability to detail the African diversity. But at the end of the day, it is evident that slavery, in ANY FORM, is unacceptable. Even the gentler version that west African nations practiced. At this point in time on current history, European nations, England, and the United States are ALL looking for reasons to justify their unGodly acts upon all the different African cultures you named, as well as the invasion and colonization of African there on the continent. They would rather generalize Africans taking part in slavery than detail it to avoid paying reparations for the brutality and savagery inflicted upon the African Diaspora worldwide. Your scholarship and explanation is thorough, but will not stand alone as a strong defense for the enslavement of blacks worldwide without accepting the fact that blacks from diverse cultures took part in the Slave Trade as regardless of diversity. We must not entertain the thought that slavery is acceptable at any level , or any degree, no matter the culture or diversity, to ensure that it never happens again...
The irony of the word slave is that it from the Slavic people Czechoslavia ,Yugoslavia , Slovakia ,Slavenia ,
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Agreed. Plus the word "serf". I'm white British. I demand reparations from Italy following the illegal invasion and enslavement of Britannia 2000 years ago. Ancient British Druid Lives Matter.
Tamora Callum Black as well as White came into existence via imperial conquest. Neither exists without the other. White depends on the stability of the negation of Black-Fanon.
@@vernonrobinson1685 Who pretends that? The issue is that people focus and focus and focus some more on African slaves in America. Shit's been over for a long time, yet people still focus on it. So, some people remind them. "Hey, by the way, Africa STILL has slavery!" Are we supposed to mention every single place in the world that has slavery when these videos pop up specifically about African slaves? India has them too, and you didn't mention them, so you're... what? A bad person or something?
Slavery was not born out of racism Racism was born out of slavery Dr Eric Williams First Prime Minister of British Caribbean Island Trinidad and Tobago
My father's tribe the afemai strictly forbade participation in anyway in the slave trade. They even had look outs to let people in the village know when slave capturers were within two miles of the village. They would relay the message by imitating the sound of a cuckaroo bird.
@@liquidKi because at the time slaves were the most efficient way to increase production with minimal cost. Imagine a blacksmith. He cannot use animal labor for his profession and having 2-3 slaves allows him to have super skilled workers that triple his output and only require food and shelter basically.
Yup because he might not have said this in the video, but many tribes after finding out what happened in this slave trade they would stop selling to the Europeans.
@@GhostDrewSenju many but not all. In South Africa which has suffered greatly under the white apartheid, the most hated group are still the Zulus and not the whites.
@@shadearca because they are painted in a negative light. The same way white people in America arent the most hated it's a matter of demonizing everyone but white people as a means to justify the harsh and unjust treatment of the people.
Having you seen the documentary Hidden Colors? You need to do something like that. Can never have enough content. We need to get a 24 hour black history channel going.
I would actually prefer if Home Team did such a series over the one that the guy who is married to a Jewish woman and is constantly using foul, degenerate language did. For African history to be associated or propagated by a degenerate who believes in pimping and whatnot isn't the ideal scenario for us.
Great idea...!!! And very, very necessary. There has been centuries of calculated and intentional effort; and still continues to be effort made to hide, diminish, skew, and simply lie about true history......
Africans enslaved blacks and whites, some of my ancestors family were taken in Baltimore Ireland by Moroccan slavers, what was left of my family moved a few places before coming to america. It wasn't safe anymore on the coast with black slavers taking millions of white slaves, but black slavers took more blacks as slaves then Europeans.
That's a dope idea.... YOU should make it happen!!! Really though!!! BET certainly wouldn't do that, so a channel completely dedicated to such a honorable cause would be great.
This is absolutely clarifying! If only we were taught this in school. I’m in my late 20s and all my life I grew up thinking “we did it to ourselves” I’ve never looked at it this way. Thank you!
read old books, the ones before the 1900’s. 🤦🏾♂️ here’s a start for your research... Book: The jews and moors in spain, page 214 The kings creed awoke again simultaneously..... archive.org/details/jewsmoorsinspain00krauuoft/page/214/mode/2up Book: America: Being an accurate description of the NEVV VVORLD;.... by John Ogilby Page 574 ; that John the third, king of Portugal, sent... Black Spanish and Portuguese Jews archive.org/details/America00Ogil/page/574/mode/2up Search Results Featured snippet from the web Western Africa (part of which became known as "the Slave Coast"), Angola and nearby Kingdoms and later Central Africa, became the source for enslaved people to meet the demand for labour. Sources: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade#Labour_and_slavery
africans did it to themselves. they did it way before europe got involved. they were selling themselves to other tribes then to the arabs from the 7th century onward. that lasted over 1300 years. get some proper education.
How does this video explain that black slave brokers didn’t sell their own people into slavery. I watched twice and haven’t heard anything clarifying such. Help me understand. Thanks
Did you just say "you can't take a 20th century mindset and apply it to 16th century"? You've just undercut the entire Take Down the Monuments movement
Greetings Brother Teacher. I'VE BEEN SAYING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THIS VIDEO FOR ABOUT TWO DECADES NOW, and after 20 years of telling our people (Black Americans) THAT AFRICAN PEOPLE NEVER SOLD "THEIR OWN" PEOPLE INTO SLAVERY, I can honestly say that these conversations have rarely gone well. Our people consistently seem to demonstrate a deep desire to WANT to believe that African people sold their own people into slavery. What I have also witnessed is a very deep anger and animosity (almost a hatred) that many Black Americans harbor towards continental African people in general. It's as if African people epitomize everything we (Black Americans) hate about ourselves, and it's been made very clear to me that MANY OF US (Black Americans) BELIEVE THAT AFRICANS SOLD "THEIR OWN PEOPLE" INTO SLAVERY BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO BELIEVE. This is one of the strongest remnants of the psychological effects of slavery that I can think of. I have also noticed that very few people seem to want to listen to Black history taught to them by a personal friend. I believe that our friend's knowledge of Black Culture and History makes us feel ashamed about ourselves for not making more of an effort to learn more about our culture and heritage than we have. Publicly, my lectures on Black history and culture have been very well received, and I've put many writings out on the internet, but I avoid talking about Black History to my friends or relatives because it only seems to evoke anger and resentment, and that is not my intention at all. Many wise people have told me that "It's not what you say but the way you say it," and I've tried to utilize this advice many times but nothing changes. This saddens me very deeply because after 20 yeas of studying and (informally) teaching Black History I have still not learned how to teach the people closest to me anything at all. I have resolved to do my talking on the internet because most people seem more receptive to hearing Black history taught from the internet, or at least they feel more comfortable learning from someone that they don't know personally. This has been my experience. Has anyone had a different experience? I'm willing to hear any advice at all.
Roq, have you ever considered that you and this guy are wrong? Just because a good job was done presenting this information that doesn't mean that the information is accurate or useful.
@@jonathanhawk5163 I don't have an ego, and I don't let my emotions dictate my reasoning, THEREFORE I CONSTANTLY "RECHECK" MY IDEAS AND THEORIES TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE CORRECT. And after over 20 years of extensive professional quality research, including checking and rechecking my theories constantly, I can confirm that AFRICANS DID NOT SELL THEIR "OWN" PEOPLE INTO SLAVERY, and our lack of knowledge and understanding about indigenous African people and culture prevents us from understanding this. We are victims of deliberate miseducation and there are maaaaaaany other lies and mistruths about Black/African people that many of us adamantly and firmly believe. I have explained these lies over and over again but most of us have become emotionally attached to these lies and choose to continue believing them despite being presented with clear evidence of the truth. So we remain impotent and confused for another day. We'll begin real progress when enough of us respect REAL evidence and stop forming their beliefs and opinions based on our emotions. We'll remain powerless, ignorant, and confused until then.
I've been trying to tell my family this for some time now and all they say is africans sold their own people into slavery. Europeans have different tribes and nobody confuses the Frank's with the Anglo Saxons.Africa has many tribes who each speak their own language and have their own culture. African tribes sometimes clash with each other over a variety of issues.When the war with each other, they will usually snatch up some war captives to sell off later. During slavery, it was the Fulani verses the Igbo, the Akans verses the Ga Dangmes, the Yorubas verses the Fons, the Mende verses the Temne, ECT..The Europeans knew this so they would go to each tribe with a proposal that the african kings couldn't refuse.They would trades slave for guns.They knew if african king said no, they would take their guns and trade them their rival tribe and that tribe would take those guns and slaughter off your tribe.Most kings gave into their demands and gave them their war captives.what made it terrible is the Europeans didn't want anything else but slaves. When you look at the big picture.Europeans had tribal warfare too.They killed all of their war captives while the Africans choose to sell their war captives to a foreign people.
I am an Ewe from Ghana, and my oral tradition says whites rated the villages, and there was no mutual ground for negotiation on prices. Some villages were burnt down because the chiefs did not provide people (slaves). Many slaves were collateral damages for the survival of the greater whole. They had gun powder when the Africans had spears/bowl and arrows. There was servitude, not slavery before the colonizers. African serves had land, wives, and workers themselves.
@M W I mean sure, but it’s not like they were the same people. That’s like saying all the people that died during the Franco-Prussian war were all white
@M W this seems like a very reductionist point. You can be about Africa but acknowledge the differences among black people, just like you can say someone is white or European, but understand an Italian and a Frenchman aren’t the same
here is your proof you know it wasn't africans that enslaved the slaves sold across the world you can tell from all the ships left behind when the sailors died in battle to capture slaves and africans took over the seas with all the boats they got, africans instantly knewg how to sail and navigate, so they just brought them self to america and we took the boats back when they got here his take on history TOTALLY makes sense, I believe 100% your ancestors were NOT the slavers, the dealer would never blame the users
@@ihatecrackhead White men cannot catch a Black man running across Africa Only a Black man can catch a Black man Africans sold Africans to Muslim Arabs too
Hi Romunda, I'm glad to see someone with the responsibility of teaching is asking for sources. Unfortunately you will not find any supporting the notion that blacks did not sell blacks. In war time, one side wins and either slaughts who's left or enslaves them. When there is no need for an excess of slaves they will be sold to another group. This form of slavery was not like American slavery, but the Africans who sold other Africans wouldn't have had an idea of what would happen to their war prisoners. So yes, they did sell them, just not in the way people think. Everybody sold everybody back than, selling was more humane than outright massacre of the enemy male population, atleast it was until the white man showed up.
Exactly im Caribbean American my kindergarten teacher kept saying im African American just because of my skin my family comes from its own culture women!🇹🇹🇭🇹 get it right next time!
“You can’t take a 20th century mindset and apply it to 16th and 17th century people. It doesn’t work like that.” Hmm interesting point. I wonder about 18th and 19th as well. Wait, are we saying that people are people of their times?
I have heard it said that every person alive today has a slave in his /her bloodline. I firmly belive this since even among indigenous people of the same race but of a differant tribe , or region enslaved others from that differant region , tribe . Humans were valuable booty from a raid or a battle , that allowd the people of that group to accomplish more in their struggle for survival . A captured woman in the tent of a Native woman eased her work load like the invention of the washing machine or the invention of dishwasher, did for the modern woman . That person became a tool to ease the work load. Unfortunately even today men women and children of every color and nationality are snached, sold by thier families and become slaves , usually sex slaves in todays world . It is time to stop talking about the past and deal with atrocities of today in this regard.
I agree 100%. But this has become a political street party. And once that happens, reason is lost. C-19, unemployment, and students being taught political lies in class, that now have nothing to do, are a toxic Summer mix. How many students who believe in reparations would go back to their ancestral countries and give everything they own back to the American Indians?
@Andy Clifft yes because there were and are far fewer slave masters then there are slaves. However even many of those masters may jave a slave in their blood line since it has never been uncommon for a freed slave to become a slave owner himself .
@Justin Walker Will you go back to the part of Africa where your ancestors were sold into slavery by Africans, and demand reparations from the ancestors of African slavers that you meet there?
@Justin Walker I am not going to waste my time arguing with a troll who is delusional. Either you have been brainwashed by another entity or have brainwashed yourself by reading fake history for the feeble minded. Maybe Bigfoot sold your ancestors into slavery or your ancestors were actually Free Blacks. . I hope you get a job, save your money and can buy a one way ticket to sub-Saharan Africa. Be careful what you wish for. The cultural and environmental shock may kill you. Good Bye and good luck. BTW, there is no God, but if I had to pick some fake ones they would be Odin, Thor, and Freya.
This is well done; however the title was misleading, "fallacy of Blacks selling Blacks". This is about all peoples of all racial groups throughout history selling each other into slavery for myriad reasons. He states himself that Africans sold each other into slavery but not from their own specific tribe. The most illustrative of this is the African prince who was about to sell his own slave on the market, and was captured and sold himself as a slave, later freed because of his obvious intelligence. Human nature is the same for all and everywhere throughout history, and the corollary, each individual person is unique and not reducible to a 'group identity'. An inconvenient truth for those wanting to demonize any racial group or individual: White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, Indian, etc. Actually, Christian teachings, like them or not, got this right.
Thank you! Now, I don’t have to explain that when most people bring this up it’s not to disparage black people or oversimplify things. It’s more to explain there’s nothing uniquely evil about white people. ALL people have the capacity to be awful and have been throughout history.
Christians teachings were trying to move beyond the barbaric act. They didn’t perfect it but they damn sure got close enough to build out of their own hell. Divisions is human nature. The way to get to unity is thru self love. The love of humanity and the acceptance and respect of differences
I'm already TRYING to make a game base on the fantasy version of caraibean culture set in the slavery era, you have no idea how avoiding conceptual trap is hard, even simple synopsis become huge conceptual puzzle. For example RPG mechanics are fundamentally colonialist system, you explore an unexplored land fill with dangerous tribally marked savage (orcs, goblin, etc ...) that you kill for loot, well there you go! More interesting is to try and swap main modern character video for a muslim or a black and see if it's flies ... Hero that goes around gunning and bombing everything in sight become suddenly uncomfortable. Apparently only "white" get to be sympathic uber sociopath, other are cursed by stereotype. I already hear you, well I don't have to care about that, let's have fun, let's not get stop by stupid consideration, but that's not fun and lazy to me, I like the challenge. Most thing are coding and decoding, culture sips through us, I want to recode and short circuit all of that. And black woman are in the center of that. After all, people have been deceiving us with their own interpretation, their own "narrative". Creating counter narrative is an exciting exercise, Slavery can be seen as a shame brought upon us, or we can interpret it as people who were so jealous of the wealth of the silk road's civilization, they couldn't create a civilization of their own so they steal the best civilization's builder to make it for them, they were too lazy to do it with their own hand. Now do you feel shame or do you feel pity for them? I mean technically how much of this is a lie? Africa was brimming with civilization, europe was stuck in the dark age during that time. In the same way, african are maybe the best people to hold the future, they have more gentic diversity, so in a world where bio enginnering is key africa is key, in the age space well we have black skin to protect us against the sun's radiation, pale skin will get cancer in the long term, we will dominate space! Those are narrative.
okay why not, hit me on twitter DM, I don't like have my contact free on the net like that lol GILBERT Timmy @NeoshamanTamago I'm already working on a game, engine is not my issue right now, I haven't frozen the game design either, I'm focusing on narrative concept, but I need more a french caraibean woman because the way it has evolve in theme. Don't expect anything soon as I struggle to lay foundation with this project. I had a lot of research to do about black people rendering, I haven't validate that yet, I'm still struggling to understand the marshner shader to make test fr 4c hair. Once this shader is done, I will validate the process with a character model that satisfies the target rendering (all of them lol). There is NO data bout afro hair in the CG paper, people are totally oblivious of its specificity (even some black people themselves). It's not straight hair extra curly lol I'm using unity and prototyping with blitz3d (because why not, it avoid having prototype code in the production build!), I'm also a procedural generation evangelist. However I would like to include a majority of black woman upfront, if I form a team, for obvious reason. I already have another "male" french caraibean artist with me now, I also have no money lol
Neoshaman Fulgurant you should use the fighting systems that exist in the Caribbean and south America that the African slaves and their descendents created from mixing their fighting and wrestling systems from Africa and stuff they learned to rebel from slavery in ur game, like capoeira, danme/ladje/agya and machete styles, that'll be great
Thank you for this video and your scholarly work on this and other topics on African history. I agree that it is an oversimplification to say our own people sold us into slavery if we base it on tribe but that would be like saying white people's own people didn't buy slaves, it was Engljsh, Scottish, Irish, Portuguese etc. Even if it was someone from another tribe who sold my ancestors it was still one black person selling another black person to those of European descent. So the black African sellers from opposing tribes and the white buyers are equally wicked in my eyes.
Slavery was already existing in Africa before the Europeans came. A lot of cultures have been guilty of slavery throughout history, to different scales of course. By the way, calling Europeans "cave dwellers" sounds a little bit ignorant, it's in the same category as saying "Africans created nothing".
I never said that Europe and Africa were the same, there were plenty of differences within these two continents to begin with. But this thing we called "slavery" existed in many sedentary societies, as soon as the cities became big enough and had multiple jobs and tasks available to make someone do the chores for you. However, I did not deny in my former statement that slavery happened on different scales (Christian Westerners and Muslim Arabs being the main slavers, as far as Black Africans are concerned)
I'm here trying to do real research on racism and in my internet travels ive come across you. Yet another racist. Is this channel part of the NBPP ideology? Because if it is, it's not productive.
I like the scene from Monty Python’s Holy Grail when King Arthur approaches the peasants: A; I am Arthur, King of the Britons P: king of the who? A: The Britons, we are all Britons P: Well, I’ve never heard of them Identity is a pretty grey concept.
Your justifying black on black slavery. Your saying well they were slaves but treated good. They were called slaves and all slaves are bad. That's same with criminals justifying why they shouldnt have been killed instead of saying they did bad!
He isn't Justifying Slavery he is denying people who say "Black people caused Slavery" by saying that they considered themselves different from each other and thought that they had the justification to enslave other ethnic groups. Slavery is horrible and is wrong no matter how you put it. But to learn about History accurately you must understand how people thought about it and how people thought about Race and other different physical features in ethnic groups.
@@isaacsaiz6934 Well that depends on how you view Slavery, in the past things like Serfdom was present across many cultures which is pretty much Domestic Slavery of ones own people. But Cattle Slavery really started in the New World with the Tran-Atlantic Slave trade as European powers needed huge amounts of labor to grow Cash Crops like Tobacco, Sugar Cane, and Wool.
Brotha! Thank You! this is the best African historic perspective series i've seen EVER. You are truly honoring our ancestors and our children yet to be born. This is brilliant! The music, the graphics, the perspective, just awesome brotha! Keep doing your thing King.
I like how this video says Africans didnt sell other Africans and the acknowledges that the Congolese sold war captives from other tribes. No one is saying that Africans thought of themselves as one race. But we are African Americans from different tribes. We are the consequences of greed by both Europeans and West Africans
Allén Laurent, the Kongo empire people were, and still today are the most peaceful people. Did you know that the Kongo Kingdom is the holy African land, received more prophets than any other parts of Africa? What our brother says in this video about Bakongo people is not accurate. No more going to Mecca or Jerusalem, black people's holy land is Mbanza-Kongo northern part of Angola
I'm grateful you are combatting the prioritization of Western history over all others with this series - rather than just reducing all of history to an Us vs Them argument. MORE INFORMATION shifts perceptions and builds bridges for those who know too little about African history (myself included). Thank you, keep going!
however, it was and still remains our ability to disassociate and have contrary interests amongst ourselves as black people that lead to our undoing from attacks from outside forces and groups!
Also remember there are different types of slavery there is no record anywhere that states Africans practiced multi generational chattel slavery with each other.
Exactly! We all know how the dominate society keeps records of EVERYTHING so there isn’t atleast ONE receipt/document showing a tribe sold a slave to a member of the dominant society. You know someone would’ve found it just to prove their point...but... there’s NONE
Yagi Mugayu No, it was racial for Europeans (hints, why they invented the concept). Yes, they used it for economic purposes, but there were still racial aspects to it. The defense, when it comes up, is entirely racial. It's saying that black people can't blame Europeans without blaming "their own people" for their ancestors' enslavement. They usually also compound it with "my family didn't own slaves, so I hold absolutely no responsibility for the events, and thus I can't possibly be a part of this conversation".
No race had everything to do with it, yes it was economics, but AFRICANS THAT were kidnap, beaten and sold to the New World, Brazil, etc was soley was base on Race. Especially in the United States. There was laws put into place based on race of Africans Americans in slavery
Brimstone Valar No you are the dumb one. Slavery existed for centuries and millions of people were enslaved. Now you're asking him to name a specific person. Slavery was evil. It was wrong. Stop acting stupid as if you don't know this.
Tammantha Shaw would you rather invade a neighboring group of people in attempt to gather slaves or would you rather just trade goods for slaves without having to sacrifice your own men? Race has nothing to do with it
That’s very very true it’s like when Aztecs took Texlacans as slaves it was brown on brown crime two different tribes but same skin color but it was nothing compared to what the Spaniards did
Actually the Spaniards were only able to overthrow the Aztecs with the help of Indian allies. The same thing occurred when Pizzaro defeated the Incas, it was with the help of Indian allies. The Spaniards were very few in number only a few hundred or so while the Aztecs and Incas numbered in the thousands. Spanish armament was very minimal when it came to firearms and cannon so technology was not a major factor. The Aztecs and Incas subjugated the tribes and cities around them. Slavery, human sacrifice, tribute in the form of goods and people were unfortunately the end result. The Spaniards were not saints but they built universities, hospitals and even printed books in various indigenous languages. In comparison the English colonists deliberately sought to decimate the native people and eventually placed those that remained in reservations. When you cross the border into Mexico, Central and South America there are a great amount of meztizos and full blooded indigenous. This is not the case in the U.S. and Canada where you would have to go out of your way to find indigenous people. The Spanish also intermarried with natives and Africans not all of it was due to rape. The Spanish brought old world diseases with them which took a toll on the native population. The Spanish in turn suffered diseases in the new world which they never had in Europe. The spread of disease killed more indigenous than guns or bullets. The diliberate distribution of contaminated blankets was under taken by Americans in order to decimate the tribes they encountered. I’m in no way condoning what certain Europeans did for wealth and power but no nation or group has a monopoly on greed and avarice. Our best hope to prevent such atrocities is to learn from the mistakes committed in the past.
I thank you my King for this awesome intellectual information with chills going through my body my heart wants the true knowledge of what my ancestors endured and what actually took place. I applaud and thank you dearly!!!!!! Keep informing us I would love to know my true religion and not what we were forced to learn!!! Thank you again King
Seems as though neither of you understand the respect I have for my brown skin brothers and that’s perfectly fine with me 💯 but when you cross these trenches make sure you’re equipped to handle everything coming your way 🎯 love peace happiness and blessings to both of you
