It makes no sense to me how people would be walking around the city, since the radiation would spread about the city, but it could be possible that the wind blew the radiation in the other direction, but I'm not an expert in this part of science.
On 0:47 Christina and Ed are required to listen to the emergency alert system, since the train derailed at Millers Bend with fire and the Atomic Bomb building up an explosion.
Yeah your right, they said in part 5 or 6 that they were CHEAP, SIMPLE nukes from the Soviet Union. Even if the bomb was still able to detonate,some of the material would have been halved-life and been much less deadlier. But then were talking about a movie with "special effects". The only bomb that could do that would be a Tsar Bomba.
I loved the blast in this movie. Perhaps the makers of "The Sum of All Fears" could have done a better job by showing the blast, instead of the hospital's windows being blown out, and the presidential motorcade being blown off of the road. They should have shown the stadium being vaporized.
On 0:49 they said to evacuate the area immediately!!! Christina and Ed are NOT allowed to stay in the Denver Railway Control office building for this emergency alert to happen!!!!
it could be a dual stage (fission and fusion) the primary stage could've made of unstable explosive triggers. one point safe mean that you if the conventional explosive inside the weapon is detonated that odds of it producing a blast exceeding 1 ton of TNT
@Godzillaman /No, it wasnt his fault, the helicopter dropping the water into burning boxcar containing the bomb causing the liquid sodium that was leaking to ignite, explode, and set off the warhead
This scenario would not happen. A nuclear explosion cannot be caused by an explosion nearby because it wouldn't be powerful enough initiate a chain reaction. The chain reaction has to occur inside the device's core.
@Zappina /actually its not the material, its about the design of the weapon itself, and what kind of explosives youre using for the trigger. RDX, Composition 4, are what you use for the detonation of the deuterium, the deuterium fires the uranium projectile and sends it crashing into another uranium plate at the end of tube setting off the secondary explosion, you can even do that with a fission trigger too.
@@nicholasmedovich8691Or SEMTEX. THE Best thing about the conventional explosive triggers of today's nukes is that they can take a shit ton of abuse and nothing can set it off
Man, the second-half of the film should've been another movie! This film could've ended like Unstoppable, but of course, they had to make it so anti-climatic!
On 1:00 Christina and Ed have to get out of their OWN office right away!!! Also, Christina and Ed have to get out of the Denver Railway Control office building before they are going to die from the Atomic Bomb exploding through the Denver Railway Control office building!!!!
The blast is greatly exaggerated for the claimed size of the weapon and the distance from the city. Even a 1 megaton H-bomb would have negligible effects at 12 miles or more. Search for the video "QED -- A Guide To Armageddon".
It just goes to show, neglegance, unsafe weapon transportation, lack of communciation, and greedy private government contractors were all the reason for that blast
im from arvada CO and i know that the mountains are visible from where the east side, central, west side and downtown areas. which is possibly 15-20 miles but i could be wrong so dont quote me on the distance. and thankfully this country is smart enough to not transport live nukes on trains, these days we normally fly em under heavy guard. if youre gonna transport nukes, ship it in seperate pieces in different vehicles along different routes
Maybe when the explosions started going off, the guy who was trying to disarm the bomb was knocked into the firing mechanism-thing and accidentally set it off. Could that be?
Acually depending on distance, the flash, that moves at the speed of light would be well ahead of the blast that moves at the speed of sound. Since they were for enough thta the flash did not kill them, the few second it took for them to take cover is not out of the question. Theoretically.
well the amount of people that are likely to be killed by a nuclear blast is estimated by the kiloton and megaton. 1 kt can kill 10,000 people, 10 kts can kill 80,000-100,000, 1 megaton can kill as many as 1,000,000 people just with the blast and heat alone or they will die due to the amount of radiation from the fallout
You know, this is interesting, how they show a bomb explosion show up as gasoline filled explosion. Nuke explosion is mostly burst of energy, pushing massive shockwave. Gosh that movie is so silly.
@Godzillaman/Its about the volitility of the explosive triggers, and how unprotected they are from whatever could cause ignition and detonation. Or since it was chemicals that set that off the explosion it couldve been a chemical reaction. it could be anything really, like they said in the movie "they were built fast and they were built cheap". Its all about how that weapons firing systems were.
That mustve been a low to medium yield weapon that exploded from how the blast looks. I will say that the special effects couldve portrayed the blast alittle better, but im not picky. If the people that had to look away when the device went off felt it was that bright, they wouldve been burned or vaporized by the flash, and heat blast
true, they would have only a few seconds to take cover before theyd be hit with an airblast packin winds of 600+mph, thats if they werent blinded or vaporized by the flash
@derekwall82 /If anything itd be the high explosives, internal wiring, and whatever electrical systems used inside the weapon would be the stuff thatd rot away or wouldnt be any good to use after being in storage for so long. but if you can fire a nuclear warhead without the use of electrical energy, than thered be no expiration date for that kind of weapon or weapon trigger
have you checked out the blast scene in indiana jones and the kingdom of the chrystal skull, that looked and portrayed an actual nuclear detonation. and yeah they shouldve shown the stadium getting vaporized, that wouldve been cool
3:04 How the hell did that guy survive the force of the nuke sent him flying into a car door, and he was sent flying another extra 30 feet, with other stuff hitting him.
okay, lets say that was a real situation, how far do you think the cameras position was from where the fireball was? the blast looked like it came out of the top or side mountains
@wileyk209zback /Thats true, but its how youre trigger, trigger ignition systems, and the overall bomb is designed, in the past weve used older weapon designs that weve rebuilt with safer firing systems. i met a person whos had to work with these devices in and has had to assemble them himself. It seems like alot of used-to-be-classified info is spilling out on the net these days
@Godzillaman /its hard to say. Since the detonation of "fat man", nuclear weapons were built better and safer. designs that are built with volitle high explosives, wiring thats not static resistant, or any other design flaws are the ones that are the most unstable. For example the little boy gunbarrel bomb design, that was a very simple to assemble design but, very unsafe with the way you hard arm and fire the weapon
This movie is full of smart A**es who thought they knew better. The pilot who ignored instructions, the fireman who wanted to speed up, the conductor who got back on the train to try to fix the brakes even though they were long gone, and the engineer who refused to slow down, ran over a conductor, smashed the caboose, and pushed the train over the edge of the divide, along with many others.
There were a whole lot of chances to stop the train or prevent the explosion! 1) Uncopple the runaway's locomotives from the rest of the train so that the bomb car would coast to a stop. 2) Use a chopper to get the crew and the bomb off the train and call an air strike on it. 3) Use the handbrakes on the train's freight cars(they still had emergancy and dynamic brakes too!). 4) Extinguish the fires at the crash site with fire trucks instead of choppers(the choppers missed the flames). Stupid
Flaw 1 - it would roll down, break pipes damaged and the cargo is too heavy Flaw 2 - It would be very difficult to get on the chopper and not enough room, airstrike would make it derail causing the nuke to explode Flaw 3 - Same thing ( cargo too heavy, not enough time and broken brake pipes ) Flaw 4 - Sodium metal would explode and they would be stuck in traffic.
1 the rest of the trains would just go roll downhill, the scenes r shot at the canadian rockies and with no brakes from the locomotive it would go faster 2 it would destroy the envoirment faster and too risky 3 even with all the brakes the train is too heavy and theyre on a downhill slope just like the cajon pass derailment 4 firetrucks mostly use water and not a special chemical that does not react with the sodium
@MrMariofan7II /Nukes on trains, BAD IDEA AND A HALF. 1 it couldve been stolen, 2 what just happened in the movie with that idiot bradshaw guy sneaking that nuke onto a train knowing its a dangerous and unsafe bomb just to avoid the insurance. and 3 trains arent that ideal for weapon transportation.
not even just equipment, they might have used their brains, if you didn't hear clearly but something sounded urgent, maybe you should stop what you are doing?!
7:30 holy motherfucking shitheads man. I'm lucky I'm a Washingtonian up here! I dont care if Japan's cars are washing up on our shores, I'm just glad that if that were to really happen, I'd be safe all the way up here. But then all them noob helicopters would disturb mah entertainment. Jesus Christ, I wouldn't even be able to play Harvest Moon 64.
