I forgot to thank you for this content. I had put slings on 3 of my guns that are vintage WWII shooters. Mosin/Garand/Mauser...etc. and like them set up as they would have and were. Try to keep them as authenic as possible. Of course, each one has needed cleaning/ffull disassembly and inspecting, all before shooting. Each time I forget how to configure the sling and every time I have to come here to see. I do it and forget to tell you thanks, so THANKS. Very clean instructions and visuals. One of the best examples on RU-vid on how to. Keep it up
Thank you for the easy to follow along video. I could have never figured this out myself. I am mostly a visual learner. Now my Yugoslavian Mauser looks super sharp.
Thank you Mister.. finally a clear, concise demonstration not hurried through like it was a timed speed drill to see who could assemble the sling in the least amount of time.
Thank you very much for the video. I couldn't have done this without your video. I watched three that left me Confused and wishing I had not bought the leather strap. But then I saw your video following followed along with you and attached my strap to my newly purchased Springfield Armory M1A standard . Took it to the range today put about 60 rounds threw it. It shot like it should dead nuts accurate. And every man there sit there and stared at this rifle. Anyhow thanks for your video you made the difference and long live the Republic!🇺🇸
Thank You Sir, this video was more helpful than the other vids in tubeland. This attachment method felt much more comfortable and got me an extra 50 points in my last match🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I agree with everything but having the frogs on the inside. Not only will it scratch the hell out of your rifle, but you certainly don't want that metal pressing into your hand or arm when tightened up in position. Yes, you may be wearing a shooting glove. You can still adjust it just the same with them on the outside so I'm really not seeing the reasoning behind it.
Thanks again. I bought a new Springfield Loaded a few months ago and was going to attach my old sling from my competition AR15, which I set up with help 20 years ago, to it. I did not remember any of the methodology and winged it. Now I can go pull it from the safe and see how I did. I will save this video for the next time. Regards.
This helped a lot. In boot several years ago, we were trained on A2's with web slings, but getting into service rifle comps I've been wanting to transition to the 1907 sling. This sling seems like it doesn't cut off circulation like the web sling does. I'll have to try it. Thanks again. Semper fi.
Wow - this is a great video. Very clear and precise. It just so happens that I bought a new 1907 leather sling today and I need to attach it to my firearm. Easy peasy following your instruction. Thank you so much!!
It's been at least a decade or so since I've shot CMP matches with the 1907 sling. But if memory serves me right you used the old Marine Corps setup, but it's the new Marine Corps setup that's the preferred version. It's exactly the same as you did, but in reverse so the frog is facing you while in the prone position; the Marine Corps decided this was more advantageous because it's easier to adjust the frog while in the prone position when it's facing you instead of being on the outside.
Thanks for making this. All my Jim Owens books are faded & tattered, and we’re freshening up the hand-me-down Remington 514 (he’s the 4th generation to own this rifle) for my grandson, and he’ll have a kid-size M1907 on it just like his Opa has on my Garand and used on my issue Match M14, XM21 and M24 back in my shooter days. I have them on the rest of my serious rifles as well. I like to order extra keepers to snug the ends against the swivels. Keeps them from dangling around. I also use the TXARNG Team’s technique of twisting the tail to keep the adjustment immobile.
Coast Guard used the M1 well into the 1980’s... when they welded the barrels to the receivers ... effectively ruining thousands of beautiful, fully serviceable weapons. Anyway... I took second place in the Ninth Coast Guard District rifle matches, using an off the rack rifle. The key to my success was the plain old web sling. I’ve got a few Turner Saddlery slings, but they are simply too complex for non-match use. If you know what you are doing, the cotton sling is as good as the 1907.
I was recently been introduced to the sport of high power rifles. A new friend invited me to the range and I've been hooked ever since then!! I've been like a sponge that past six weeks or so trying to learn as much as possible. I think I've watched all of your videos on the subject. You are an excellent instructor and speak in a way that is easy to follow and understand. This particular video was great. You totally removed the mystery of the sling for me. I'm subscribed and look forward to more content. Keep up the great work!
Greg Richardson Thank you! I'm glad my video was helpful, and I'm even more glad you've taken up high power. I hope to meet you at the range sometime. Be sure to say "Hi" if you see me. Good luck, and take care.
Just watched this so I can install my original 1918 manufacture M1907 on my 1943 1903A3 Springfield. Of course I wasn't taught the marine method of rifle shooting but I was taught by my grandfather the US Army version though since he was a Corporal in the US Army during WWII.
How the heck does RU-vid know I bought a M1907 sling for my 1903A3 last week? Most helpful video...I was close, but installed it upside down with the short strap up top. ;)
Thank you, great delivery, been using 1907s for 50 years, six on my current rifles have them and I know I never attaching them as you demonstrate here, good times, now I get to see how many of those six rifles I got right and how many I will have to redo. Appreciate you.
Thank you for this video I just bought a M1A Loaded and couldn't remember how to sling it, too many years have passed sense the 60's and Viet Nam and my M14 rifle for me to remember Great Video
Just got this sling. Been 25 years since I last owned one. Thanx for the excellent video on how to assemble it and to the rifle and how to form the loop!! Very clear instruction
Right. You ever replaced a fan belt on a multi-pulley car, better draw a damn diagram before you start...you think you can remember because it looks easy, but 5 minutes later you are scratching your head when trying to install the new one....this 1907 sling mounting is nuts...I've watch several videos on it and they are all different...how to mount it...
Another excellent video and big help. I also experienced the same frustration in trying to remember how to properly attach a sling to a new rifle. Thank you for the video.
Thank you, Mr hrfunk. I got my Turner Saddlery sling today and finally came across your video. Your instruction is very detailed and much easier to follow. I now have mine set up and want to use it tomorrow on my M1A (standard) with some match rounds I loaded up. I have zero training with the competitive sling. Liked and Subscribed to your channel, sir.
I got lucky, I bought a sporterized Springfield 1898 30-40 Krag and they happened to have one of these leather slings in stock as well. I need one for deer hunting. But idk if it was the 1887 or one of the later variants, they all look similar. But I sold it to my dad who always wanted one. I now own a Marlin 336 SC that also has a leather sling that has a similar style, but it carries metal clamps to attach to swivel rings. I took off the modern swivel attachments that were on the clamps so I could use the sling on my rifle.
Good shit, I just purchased an M1907 sling to go on my Marlin 1895, I've never used one on a lever gun but I think it will work well with some adjustment. Thanks for the video!
Your content is unique and super helpful. I'm trying to set up a proper sling config. on a Garand and your video shows the details that most other videos lack. Thanks again!
Thanks a lot! I just got the Springfield 1903 I've been looking for for nearly all my life. I attached a sling like this one to it but the frogs kept getting unhooked. Looking at how you did it, it makes way more sense than how I did it myself. Also, it makes more sense to have the frogs facing the way you did when you want to hike with your rifle, that way they don't pop out! Thanks!
Ok, HR - You got me started with CMP high power matches. I am going from rimefire 3P to CMP high power, and am setting up my AR with a M1907 sling, and a Leupold VX-Freedom Rifle Scope 1.5-4x 20mm 1/10 Mil Adjustments AR Ballistic Reticle. Thank you and very useful. Also, thx for the great intro videos on high power rifles. FletchMan
FletchMan...get you a laser range finder, a red dot, gillies suite, British WWII face veil, and some camoflouge, and you are set for life...Good luck shooting...
6 years later and this video is still helping folks. I agree with another poster about having the frogs on the outside, but that's an easy change. Thank you, Sir!
New sling from CW Shields Cumberland Ohio showed up to day and I got her done thanks to your video. Can't wait to give it a spin this weekend, thanks again HRfunk
Can't help but notice Springfield puts their best quality walnut stocks on their super match rifles - beautiful rifle. Have a walnut standard M1A 308 & NM 6.5 Creedmoor M1A with black synthetic stock , both with leather slings - going to check & see if I did it right . Enjoyed your video .
There are several other ways to attach the sling. For what it’s worth, the sling configured as demonstrated in the video can be adjusted without unhooking the frog.
Definitely the clearest explanation I have seen yet. I would like some clarification though on proper tensioning (Length) as a shooting sling. I am having some trouble getting it adjusted correctly. BTW, I am using the sling on a Savage Mark II for rimfire sporter cometition. Thanks! Steve
The rule is to get the sling as tight as possible without having it effect your shooting platform. If the sling is too tight for you to get into a good position, you need to loosen it a bit. If it's so loose, that it provides little or no support then it needs to be tightened. There is a little trial and error involved in getting the sling just right, and it needs to work in conjunction with your shooting position. No matter how you tension the sling, it will not correct for a bad position. So, again, everything has to work in harmony with everything else! Hope this helps!
hrfunk : thanks! I did just that this morning between thundershowers. I'll email you 2 pics. one is before adjustments. the second is after. 20 rounds, 15 - bulleyes with 5 or 6 x @50 yards with my 22lr. I guess it works! thanks for the excellent advice. steve
Sorry, I thought I could upload a pic but can't find a way to do it. Been shooting less than 2 years but given my proximity to Camp Perry (40-miles to the east), I can't resist the urge to participate in the National Matches.
Steve Brown no problem. Shoot me an email at hrfunk@zoominternet.net. I'd like to see how you did! Also, there is nothing in the shooting sports that is quite as cool as shooting at the National Matches. I liken it to going to the Super Bowl, being able to go down on the field and play.
Thank You I always have a problem with the 1907 sling I now have one on each of my Bolt Action Rifles and also on my AR-15 5.56 mm CMP Rifle and my 24" barreled AR-15 5.56 mm Over Watch Rifle .
Thank you for making this video. Just brought a 1903 back from a sporter. I have it installed now I will return for how to use it. Looks rock solid the way you are using it.
Not sure if you did one of these for the canvas sling. I have those on a few of my firearms and to this day I am not certain that I installed them properly. I note that I use the USN style of “quick” support for firing these rifles. Many thanks if you can do this type of video. Thank you.
I setup my sling the same way, but was taught to have one of the keepers above the upper strap, so there’s a bit of a gap between them as the top one comes down onto the extra length of strap that sticks out. Hard to describe. It serves to keep the upper frog in place. Bottom line the keepers don’t touch each other. But I’ll try it this way as well. Appreciate the clear direction.
Dogs not Frogs...Maybe in South Louisiana they call them Frogs...I don't know...but I do know in south Texas a Bush Hog is called a Rotary sickle...me and my brother never heard of a Rotary sickle when in south Texas in 1972...we laughed our asses off when when saw the damn thing that the man was talking about...it was a friggin Bush Hog where we came from...!
Good stuff, sling looks like it is attached ok! However, should the "Metal" fittings on the sling be facing away from the stock to prevent scratching and/or damage? Just another way I attach the M1907 slings to my rifles. Regards, RJW
It's attached properly for the way I use it. The metal fittings (frogs) rarely contact the stock, and the few marks they make when they do just add character to the wood. Contrary to popular belief, rifles used for service rifle matches lead a pretty grueling life, and they usually show some scars to prove it.
Yeah prety sure it is backwards. Its 100% right just hardware goes out been shooting NRA high power and CMP matches for years and I've yet to see anyone else set up that way, use this type sling on my 03A3, M1, M1A, and my M16A2clone, there are none better.
I don't understand why both keepers are below the frog. I always had one above and one below. Also, I see no reason to put the lower frog on the inside. It's easier to get to on the outside.
@hrfunk lots of keyboard warriors complaining about it being the "wrong way" here's some easy advice. There's a lot of things soldiers do that is different or not exactly the way the book says. Years of trial and error as well as finding what works best for you is where the stuff that works comes from. He even stated that this is a different way to do it. Hes not humping this thing 12 miles through the woods. Nor is getting ambushed a close range or assaulting a village. Hes using this set up for competition shooting. If he was carrying this every single day he might find a better method but for his purposes this is what works. No need to lose your minds on the guy.
Fantastic,now I'm on to steady my rifle I think my sling is different than this one mine came from Springfield arm's I don't have the metal D - ring on my short strap like yours but, I can buy another a1907 sling
pro tip pull the tail stock frogs through and make a loop and hook them. then pull the hooks and loop up, attach the frogs to itself and then pull them against the the tail stock swivel. This will give a mechanical pinch point so the short sling stays attached to the rifle. The way you have it in the video you can have the frogs come undone and pull through and you can fine yourself laying on the hooks in prone. Ouch! You will know what I mean if you ever had that happen to you.
Thanks for making this video. I just bought a Marlin 336 and I plan on putting a 1907 sling on it because I think leather on a lever action rifle looks good and I figure I would use a 1907 sling.
@@Mac-mu9cs i was explained the “frogs” always go to outside , so as to prevent abrasions against rifle and or the soldiers shoulder potentially while carrying rifle , this could also result in frogs hanging up on other gear and thus being dislodged ..
@@oneshotpete6.591 I doubt US miltary cared much about rifle abrasion or GIs shoulder. Anyhow every thing I see how USGI ran the sling looked like this
@@Mac-mu9cs you may want to check the CMP - they state the frogs were set up on the outside - kinda makes sense, seeing as that would give the fastest adjustment access 🤷🏽♂️
I always thought the leather ones were better but I'm leaning more towards the cotton one. Seems like you have to replace it every year the more you use it though.
@@hrfunk yeah true. I always have to buy a new one. The seat belt kind really sucks as they slip but the cotton ones are solid for about a year or two then you got to buy a new one. I buy the two packs and it takes me about 3 years before having to buy a new set. I guess by now I can have a single leather one and maybe it’ll last longer for the same price.
it's not called 1907 military sling.. The Military doesn't go around naming it's equipment as "military", the M stands for model Model 1 Garand Model 1903 Springfield Model 1911 Colt .45 pistol So this sling is called "Model 1907 leather sling"
Did the Marines use this type of sling? Does their official method differ from the Army? I have no interest in fooling around with it the Army way, so any knowledge would be helpful. S/f
This sling (the model 1907) has been in use by military shooters for over a century. It was the primary battle rifle sling until at least the 1950’s. The particular attachment method I demonstrate in the video was developed by a Marine Master Sergeant named Jim Owens. I’m not sure how the Army teaches sling use, but the way I show it in the video has worked well for me. Semper Fi!
It is slightly different from the way the Army does it. If this is indeed the way this Master Sgt does it..... the army does it exactly the same way except we leave the metal frogs on the outside, again I use the same type slings on all 4 of my high power/CMP rifles that I shoot in matches there is no better shooting aid sling out there.
When it comes to using a sling as a shooting aid, the “right” way is the way that allows you to fire the most accurate shots. The method I demonstrated is the one I use on all my service rifles in competition.
