I never understood why people mock this line - I mean he grew up on Tatooine as a slave. He probably really would hate sand. The fact that people complain about this line is equal to him complaining about sand.
The novelization has Padme falling for Anakin because of his blunt honesty. She's been and worked with politicians her whole life and they always say one thing but mean other things. When he said that line she realized he was not just saying what he thinks she wants to hear.
My favorite story aspect of any of the prequels is Anakin sensing that his mother is in pain across the universe. He uses this to his benefit in Empire Strikes Back when he tortures Han & Leia just because he knows Luke will sense it and come for them. Remember after being tortured Han says “they didn’t even ask me any questions”. The point was just to put him in pain so Luke would sense it. It’s one of the few things that directly connects Anakin in the prequels with Vader in the original trilogy.
I don't think you need to explain. She is pretending not to know. In her final commentary on Return of the Jedi she said she knew the Emperor's name is Palpatine. So she knows exactly who the sith lord is, but is just pretending. What else is she pretending about.
A few years ago I watched a little boy watch Star Wars with his dad for the first time and when Anakin said, “I hate them!” The boy said, “He hates himself.” That was when I finally saw it. For some reason I divorced Anakin from episode 1 and Anakin from episode 2. Padme doesn’t. She sees that he was a good little boy and he’s being broken by the Jedi because they don’t want him to feel anything and being strong with the force, I think he feels everything. She says “To be angry is to be human.” He needs therapy and I think she might be doing the “I can fix him” nonsense. I can’t quite see the romance but maybe with more focused dialogue I might have bought it more. The score helps, it’s beautiful and really sets the dramatic love story tone.
The novelization of both Episode 2 and 3 portrays Anakin's and Padme's romance a lot better than the film version do. I was able to read both books prior to the movie releases and the movies leave out a ton of character and relationship building that earlier drafts the novel writers utilized.
I think at first the love story is difficult to comprehend but thinking about it, it’s only a 5 year age gap, they were both young in phantom menace although it seems as if anakin was 5 and padme was 15 he was 9/10 ish and she was 15. Obviously they’re older in the second episode 10 years have past, anakin had a childish crush on her but padme always thought of him as a little boy. He tries proving to her the whole movie that he’s not just “a little boy” I think eventually she sees that and slowly falls in love with him throughout that movie overall she’s not that much older than him but as for like him acting kind of “creepy” anakin being anakin I don’t think he’s good at communicating his feelings which was pretty much the whole reason he turned to the dark side. All he needed was help with his feelings. And in episode 3 obviously them being married and such and such is just them getting older so if you think about it it’s not that weird. I also recommend watching Star Wars theory’s videos called “padme reveals how she fell for anakin when he was only 9” it explains it more in depth but overall I think the love story is difficult to read into if you only see one layer of it.
The issue Anakin and Obi-Wan have at this point is that while Obi-Wan looks towards Anakin like a younger brother, Anakin looks towards Obi-Wan as a father figure, similar to how he felt about Qui-Gon. The two don't know how to talk to each other well.
And the REAL real issue is that no time was devoted to developing their relationship; the first time we see them, they're at complete odds, contrary to the warm words Old Ben uses to describe Ani in Ep4 (the elevator scene was tacked on last-minute in an attempted band-aid).
I know we've all heard this, but I'll hijack this comment in the hopes that Shanelle sees it: The song during the Maul fight where Qui Gon dies is called "Duel of the Fates." This is - in part - because the outcome of that fight determines the path that Anakin will go down. If Obi Wan - who thinks of him as a brother - trains him, Anakin won't quite embrace the Jedi teaching as well as he should and constantly power struggle and be consumed with aspiration and fear. If Qui-Gon trains him, then Anakin will have the father figure he never had who will teach him like a father and impress upon Anakin a more nuanced view of Jedi teachings that has room for emotions and attachments and can teach him how to manage those feelings
“So he’s like, 19.” Pretty spot on there. The time gap between Episodes I and II is around 10 years. The time gap between Episodes II and III is around 3 years. I can’t remember exactly how old Anakin was in The Phantom Menace, but it was somewhere around 8-11 years of age. There are comic books/graphic novels that talk about how Anakin was treated while a Padawan at the Jedi Temple (spoiler: he was not treated well at all, since he was much older than the other Jedi younglings when he took up residence at the Temple). Anakin was already a very strong duelist by the time of Attack of the Clones, but during the Clone Wars he got even better still - he just happened to exist at the same time as Dooku, who uses Lightsaber Combat Form II, and is canonically the best practitioner of that style in all of Star Wars history - that’s why Dooku is able to best Anakin at the end of this film.
While others criticize Anakin's flirting with Padme, it never bothered me. Anakin's spent the past decade with monks disconnected from basic emotions, and Padme has to be professional 24/7 because of her senate position. Actual flirting is foreign to them, so they just say whatever comes to mind, even if it isn't coherent.
Yeah, but there is zero chemistry between them. If the script and/or Hayden Christensen would have managed to portrait Anakin as a scary and arrogant yet at the same time confident and charming young man (the quintessential bad boy) the audience would understand much better why Padme falls for him. instead he comes off as awkward, creepy and bitchy. Not really qualities girls usually fall for. I'm not sure who is more at fault here - the writers or Christensen, my guess would be the writers.
@@dennispanko6311 Its a combination of 25 percent writing and 75 direction. The writing needs nudging, the direction is absolutely wack. When decent actors give bad performances, it is almost always the directors fault.
Problem is this total awkwardness has to work because original trilogy happened. If it had started like this and was given room to breathe and develop, it could've been something, but had to rush things because you got only three movies.
Jedi are not disconnected from emotion that is a misconception. All they teach is to be mindful of emotions and not to get possessive of personal relationships.
You are WRONG though, because ... a) Anakin DIDNT spend a decade with monks but rather had adventures while being trained ... (monks are SECLUDED) ... and b) IF your assessment was true HE SHOULD HAVE NO INTEREST IN WOMEN, because he wouldnt know what to do with them!
Let's all take a moment to appreciate how excited at 10:49 Shanelle is at seeing the Younglings training. She is truly becoming a Star Wars Nerd ONE OF US!! ONE OF US!! ONE OF US!!! We will watch your career with great interest.
The most times I’ve ever seen a movie in theaters was 6, and this was that movie. I don’t know why I was so obsessed with this one in particular. I originally planned on breaking my record for episode III, but only managed to see it twice.
I saw this one 6 times in theaters too. I saw Revenge of the Sith I think 3 or 4 times in theaters. But...I saw Phantom Menace 19 times in theaters! I can't imagine I would ever do that again for any movie, LOL.
I think a lot of the relationship between Obi-Wan and Anakin gets a lot more development in The Clone Wars TV series. If I remember correctly, the Syfo Dias mystery is basically Dooku posing as Syfo Dias and ordering the clones.
According to Wookieepedia, it was Sifo-Dyas himself who ordered the clones. But this is a very muddy point in the movies that isn't really clarified or explained, or even given a reason as to why we should even care.
@@MrSupertallblackman I mean 2003 also depicted an overexaggerated view on the Jedi and the Clone Wars so both shows kind of do their own thing compared to the films. In terms of tone The Clone Wars 2008 to 2019 is alot closer.
Basically, in the original concept, Sifo Dyas was either Dooku or Sidious using a different name. But in legends they make it where Sifo Dyas pre-emptively ordered the clones because of the return of the Sith(maul). The clones were never made to fight droids, they were made to fight Sith. Then, it was canonized with the clone wars TV show.
People can say what they want about the Anakin/Padme romance...but their love theme, "Across the Stars" is one of the most beautiful film scores I've ever heard.
One of the things I love about the Clone Wars is see how the Empire's military weapons equipment and weapons evolved directly from the Clone equipment shown in the prequels. There are earlier models of X-Wings, AT-ATs, Star Destroyers, Storm Trooper Armor, A-Wings, and so much more. It gives a sense of time between the OT and the prequels.
The "executed by space monsters in an arena/gladiatorial pit" scene is an homage to Edger Rice Burroughs' 1912 novel "Princess of Mars", first in his Barsoom series. Disney made a pretty good film of it in 2012 under the title "John Carter".
Saw this in the theater and when Yoda showed up in the final battle people lost thier minds. When he pulled out that light saber the roars were deafening.
It is kind of amazing. I have always rated this movie as the worst of the entire series, and the first one a close second, but Shanelle manages to make me see merits on both that I did not see before.
They were always better than people have been saying. They just have to be willing to look with more open eyes. The narrative about them is hard to overcome. Just as entertainment, what's not to like? Sci fi adventure. That's all it is.
This movie was...odd. The story was solid. The execution from the actors...could have used some polish. Still, the movie had some shiny parts. Yoda fight. Obi-wan detective work. Anakin and Obi-wan's partnership. Often regarded as one of the weaker star wars films, I think it is a solid entry minus the creepy anakin dialogue with padme.
I blamed the script and the direction more for that element than the actors. Like you said, the creepy dialogue...the actors had to work with those lines.
I was 13 when Attack of the Clones came out, and I remember when it was released on DVD, the only part of the movie I would watch over and over again is the stadium battle. I didn't really notice the really bad dialogue until I was a lot older. As you said, the story itself is fine but I think if the actors had better direction and the script was more fine-tuned it would have been a solid movie.
It's not really the actors who are at fault, it's Lucas. He's notorious for giving very little direction for his characters and going with the first takes. He's apparently not too picky.
Saw it when it came out. I loved it! I was already a massive fan before Phantom Menace came out but I still loved prequels. As per George Lucas' interviews in the 90s, he mentioned that prequels will be done in the style of soap opera style acting and CGI. Attack Of The Clones showcases Anakin as a corny teenager, undisciplined but with a good heart. It's 20th anniversary of Attack Of The Clones this year :)
Love your videos, and they actually help me appreciate the movies even more. Trivia section is great and original, haven’t seen other movie reactors implement that 👍
In the bar scene, while chasing the assassin, you would have seen two men turn around in reaction to the brief light sabre duel. Those two were Anthony Daniel's (C3P0) and Ahmad Best (Jar Jar Binks).
Something to check out (whether you react to it or not is up to you) Is the animated series Star Wars: The Clone Wars. I know of a couple reactors which have tackled it, and its sucessor Rebels. The Clone Wars fills in the story line between Episode II and Episode III. Can watch III without it, just adds a lot of extra character development and build up, helping really flesh out the war as a true war. Rebels is set between Episode 3 and 4.
Episode II is structured such that most of the film switches back and forth between Obi-Wan and Anakin/Padme. When I used to watch it on DVD, I would click to the next section to watch a movie about Obi-Wan that did not have Anakin in it, except for the very beginning and very end.
Loved your reaction. Much fun! I really enjoy the many details of locations/planets that appear in this SW movie. Regarding story not so convinced of the chemistry between Padme and Annakin either. Pacing/editing feels a bit weird at times. A mixed bag as are all prequel movies, not quite on the same quality level as the original trilogy films. But overall I like the movie a lot nonetheless. It adds many interesting things to the SW universe, imo. Sidenote: There exists a seemingly outrageous fan theory that Jar Jar Binks is actually a Sith. After rewatching the prequel films with some distance and paying more attention to details, even skeptical me now believes this theory might actually be true. Some related relevant story parts were apparently cut out from episode III.
Just for context, Episode 2 takes place 10 years after Episode 1. Anakin is now 19 and Padme is 24. (These events are approximately 22-25 years prior to the O.T. Episode 4.)
Go back and watch those final scenes of battle with armies. The weapon they are trying to build is the Deathstar, you can see plans for it up on the wall monitor and again when he has a little hologram of it in his handheld device. They show it for sure, don't say it by name though. Notice many of the enemy vehicles and ships in that last battle where sphere shaped.
17:20 Tattoine has two suns, excepting the occasional alignment, they should have double shadows. 20:41 "Amidala trusts Palpatine, so..." Wait, you're expecting the girl falling in love with creepy, angsty Darth Vader and who appointed Jar Jar to stand in for her to have good judgement? 😬
The prequels tend to be a bit ify.....Although, I think the tie in with the clone wars cartoon makes it better especially the relationships. Love your reactions they are always so fun. Can't wait till you watch the next movie I think its the best from the prequels.
Your question as to what the Geonosians and Separtists were building was revealed in the same scene: the Death Star. You have a good eye for locations, the lake country scenes on Naboo were filmed in the Como Lake region of, you guessed it...Italy.
I think people need to remember that Anakin is 19 years old in this movie. He's still an awkward teenager. However, he's still that good caring 9-year-old boy that we met in episode 1. Padme amidala was 14 years old in episode 1. The youngest Queen to be elected on her planet. She had the same kind of crush most girls had on little boys that were cute and honest. That is the foundation of their love. The uneasy feeling padme's feeling is actually forbidden Love not creepiness. I think the actors that did a fine job. Because creepiness and forbidden Love have similar reactions.
I think there are at least two reasons for the the failure with the love story here. 1) is that Anakin and Padme had not seen each other for 10 years and he still had a crush on her. I wish the background was that the two had seen each other a few times a year in between the films. It would have solidified his love for her and would have given her time to see him grow up. 2) Since they had him fall in love with her as a 9 year old and as a Jedi Padawan he is not allowed emotional entanglements he is approaching this AS a 9year old still.
Being 19 is a bad excuse for his behavior. Especially when mentored by the Jedi order. That's like seeing a buddist monk throwing a temper tantrum. You're trained to be humble and disciplined in self control. Most grow out of those tantrum's by their mid teens unless if they're really really spoiled.
@@Novaximus "Especially when mentored by the Jedi order. " I disagree. I think that is the perfect reason he behaved the way he did.. Anakin was not given any training in how to deal with people on a personal level, in negotiating perhaps but as the Jedi did not have attachments he was not taught anything in that area. . That in combination the fact he started his training so late was also a big factor. If he started training when he was truly young (3/4) he never would have had the same attachment to his mother. He would have grown up in a world where from the get go he did not develop the personal attachments. As it he was trained by Obi-wan and not Qui-Gon, he got trained in the cold way that the Jedi are trained by the council. They are a factory and do not take the individual into account. If Qui-Gon had taught him he would have learned how to deal with people better on a personal scale because Qui-Gon dealt with the living force and did not just think of it as a tool.
@@Novaximus His behavior is because he was mentored by the Jedi Order. An organization founded on the idea that you need to suppress your emotions and personal relationships, which in practice often leads to the exact kind of instability we see in Anakin. It's the same reason we see so many emotionally immature, violent, and unstable men in our society. Because it's the same ideals upheld by many people's toxic perceptions of what masculinity should be.
8:17 One of my absolute favorite subtle characterization moments in the entire Star Wars franchise happens in this cantina scene, and I never, ever see anyone mention noticing it. There's a shot of Anakin walking through the patrons, and as he passes a table, he very subtly raises his hand at waist level and makes a little doing-something-with-the-Force wave. Then, immediately after, as he passes that table, all the patrons at the table stare intently at him as he passes. I think Anakin is already on the dark path at this point, and he uses the Force in this moment to cause them to feel reverence? fear? He likes that feeling of being regarded as important and powerful.
Great reaction! It's not the origin story of Boba Fett, but Chapters of Boba Fett was just released, detailing his life after the rebellion wins the war. Plays out simultaneously as The Mandalorian, who is also in the show (along with baby-yoda and Luke Skywalker)!
Many of us felt that "He was a good friend" did not play out at all. There are videos with suggested alternate prequels that would have been more faithful to the originals. I suggest you not look for them until after seeing Episode 3. Even though we were terribly disappointed when these came out, time heals all wounds. They are good for what they are. I will not say the same about the Disney sequels, which betrayed and murdered the original trilogy.
I agree. I always felt that the prequels were not well written to feed into the original trilogy, and the retconning was awkward. Could have been better from the get-go, although they were adequate and all had high points scattered throughout. And I-III did get better in the progression. I don't want to talk about the last movies. Rogue One was really good.
You could say that this is the worst of the teen Anakin. Later on during the Clone Wars series when Anakin is a bit older we really see the friendship between them.
I’m glad you enjoyed this one, Shanelle. It does have some good elements, and seeing Yoda in a lightsaber duel was a big crowd-pleaser. But the dialogue between Anakin and Padme is just SO cringey, even an actor of Portman’s caliber can’t make it work. It feels like they fall in love because the story demands it, not because they actually have any chemistry.
Knowing the interest you have in film making, a general recommendation I can make is to watch all the film's with the various commentaries available. Only prob is I think they're only provided with the blu ray versions of the films.
I've mentioned this other times as well, but I just feel like saying this every time I watch an EP II reaction. I've only ever heard a Norwegian movie audience cheer loudly once in my life, and that was when Yoda uses the force to get his lightsaber.
In this movie Anikan Skywalker played by Hayden Christiansen alom is growing up as he is Obi-wan along with Padme played by Natalie Portman. Anikan Skywalker is Kenobi's padawan as the Clone Wars continues with Count Dooku presents himself as a new villain
Hey Shanelle, glad you enjoyed this movie. Think of all the Star Wars Episodic movies as acts of a play, at least EP 1-6 As with EP's 4-6 the movies focus on the events of the main characters. EP's 1-3 are the same. There are tons and tons of books/games/comics that fill in the greater galactic conflict and reasons some events happen that are only mentioned in passing in the movies. The Clone Wars animated series does a great job of showing Obi-Wan's and Anakin's relationship. The novels pre-Disney from this time period tend to focus much more on the political aspects of the galaxy. Hope you continue to enjoy the franchise and remember,..... Part 1 & 2 review videos for EP 3! Stephen
Part of the beauty of the original movies is their subtlety. They let you fill in the gaps without spelling everything out. Going back and creating super convoluted back stories, i.e. Boba Fett, for characters isn't interesting; it undermines the brilliant simplicity of the originals.
Shanelle, I hope you consider watching The Clone Wars. It starts with an animated movie, and then 7(?) seasons. A bunch are stand-alone episodes that can really be skipped (ask around to find out which). But they would be great to watch, especially if you want to watch The Mandalorian. After the fiasco of the sequel trilogy, The Mandolorian is a bastion that really recaptures star wars, if in a slightly different genre (a little like a western, but in space).
@David Crabtree The sequel trilogy tells a totally incoherent story, yes, but at least it had normal dialogue. Heck, episode 7 is better than any of the prequel movies and even 8 and 9, despite really questionable story choices, are at least well done movies with real sets and very good actors. None of the sequels is anywhere near as bad as episode 2.
Shanelle mentions Fifth Element. Luc Besson reads various Sci Fi books like Valerian and Laureline and The Incal. George Lucas reads various Sci Fi comics like Valarian and Laureline and later reads the Incal and the Metabarons. Me: You should totally read these comics cause holy christ did they “borrow” from those comics.
A continuity issue I just realize with this one is that in "A New Hope" Owen doesn't recognize C-3PO. It's possible he could have forgotten, but it doesn't seem likely.
I think a lot of people's misunderstanding of the Anakin/Padme relationship is that they were supposed to be on Naboo for quiet awhile, perhaps weeks or a couple of months. Sadly several scenes of them were cut, including a great one of them talking about her past in her bedroom and meeting her parents. The Lars homestead where we meet young Owen and Beru is the same exact on location set from A New Hope... it's a hotel in Tunisia and that mural on the dining room ceiling wasn't recreated...it was still there after decades.
Since you seemed to be confused on who/how the clone army was ordered, I'll fill in some of the gaps you didn't seem to notice from the movie. First, the order was made by the Jedi Master Sifo-dyas, it's just that he was killed after he had made the order. Obi-wan stated in his talk with the Kaminoan Prime Minister that Sifo-dyas was killed almost 10 years ago, but considering how long it'd take to grow and train an adult clone trooper, 10 years is actually pretty expected. During the tour of the cloning facilities, it's stated that the clones have an accelerated growth, taking half the time for them to reach the prime age to be a soldier. This would make that first 200 000 clones ready to be at least 20 "human" years old, though they could even be a little older. Second, and this is also the most important, Obi-wan mentions Sifo-dyas to Jango Fett on Kamino. Jango says he never heard of him and that he was recruited by a man named Tyrannus. And who gets called Tyrannus at the end of the movie? Why, Count Dooku does by Darth Sidious! So this means the Sith knew all about the clone army and even had a hand in its creation. They also probably wanted to make sure no word of it got back to the Republic or the Jedi council.
Not that it is overly important. Obi-Wan's astromech droid is an R4 unit. Also, I'd suggest you watch the Clone Wars animated series if you really want a better picture of the characters and story. It is set between this and episode 3. You don't HAVE to see it before the next movie but it does flush out a LOT of backstory, if you're interested. You get a lot of Obi-Wan, Anakin, Padmé, the droids, and clones; as well as other amazing characters. It is, however, very long but I think it is amazing. If you're thinking about it, look for chronical order and arcs. The series wasn't released in the correct order and it has mini arcs that tell small stories within. I think you would enjoy it but it is a LOT of content.
At 4:25 you said Natalie Portman came into her own in this movie. If you haven't already; I suggest watching "Leon: The Professional" (her movie debut almost a decade before this movie). I find she was better in that than any of the Star Wars movies. Unrelated; there's something about the Star Wars movies I'm shocked you (appear to) haven't figured out yet. I won't spoil it if you haven't, but will mention it after Episode 3.
Star Wars is always tough because they try to balance it for younger viewers, but also trying to please the older audience from the originals. It's never balanced well, but I enjoy the prequel series myself. I do wish the dialogue script had another once over though. Overall fun times. The Clone Wars animated show fleshes out Padme-Anakin and Anakin Obi Wan to make this all fit better. Thats probably why the movies hit better now that those exist for me. The Clones do resemble Storm Troopers on purpose, but clones are not Storm Troopers in the original trilogy.
It's refreshing to see you enjoyed this more than The Phantom Menace. Many people I know of claim this to be the worst Star Wars film ever, but I've always liked it more than Episode 1. I'll even go as far as to say this is my second favorite Star Wars movie of all time, only after Revenge of the Sith.
Shanelle. If you enjoy the old fashioned "Books and Dice" AD&D Games, and have some Like Minded Friends, I'd Suggest Playing "Star Wars, the Roleplaying Game". Many Great Memories of The Adventures WE Created!
the one thing this shows is the arrogance of the Jedi...from them saying Count Dooku couldn't be an assassin, the librarian saying if it isn't in our records it doesn't exist etc.... Their arrogance is what destroyed them
yep. thats the face of "holy shet Anakin is hoooot" hahahaahah Anakin is 19 and Padme is 24 so its ok, dont get stressed hahaha "im loving this place, it is like italy" holy shit, the accuracy XDD
