Attempting To Save a Badly Damaged PROTOTYPE Bally Medusa Pinball Machine Backglass!

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@greglilly3866 Год назад

I actually lifted the big flakes with a long toothpick when I was spraying tripple-thick on my Star Trek backglass. That way, I knew some of it got under all the pieces. Worked pretty good, but as you say... "It's an imperfect art work!!" 😅

@irieman442 Год назад

That machine is fully loaded. You can't jam much more stuff or gadgets on that playfield. That's a very cool game. Can't wait to see it finished.

@LyonsArcade Год назад

They even made the flippers move!

@babyneon Год назад

I'll say it again. I've never even seen a pinball machine in real life but this is one of my top favorite channels. It's broke!

@LockonX105 Год назад

I would recommend spraying the paint into something at the beginning and using a syringe with a small needle to "inject" it under the flaking art before spraying. It would just help make sure you have full coverage and reduce risk of bubbles under the art.

@EsotericArctos Год назад

Not a bad suggestion. That could definitely help in the case of areas that are not quite sticking Ron has done many many of this era of backglass. If you look at the other videos, his method also works and lasts. I think the clear coat Ron uses does soften the old paint a bit and allows it to sit flat. It really does sit pretty well.

@nothingbutice3833 Год назад

Ron doesn't take suggestions. What he says goes, his video - we can take it or leave it. Humble is far behind Pride. He's been told before. There's no fixing his pinball

@Stellerex Год назад

I think it looks awesome even the way it glued down and the cracks in his back. Makes him look like hes got power inside him and a super hero in an epic way. This makes the machine even more unique. Great work!

@samuelcolvin4994 Год назад

Like the orange guy in fantastic four!

@miguelrios4602 Год назад

Thanks for showing the step-by-step technique for the translite. Appreciate it. Catch you on the next one

@jamesdarrow9801 Год назад

I have a Medusa great game took a while to get it all working correctly. The center kick out between the bottom flippers should be a red faceted circle with an o ring on it.

@dnbreyen Год назад

Gotta give 3 thumbs up for the Bob Ross reference!

@LyonsArcade Год назад

He's the man!

@AllanSitte Год назад

She is really a beautiful machine. I cannot express words that fully describe how impressed I am with the work you have done so far. Thank you for sharing this work with us.

@SergZak2023 Год назад

Great job, Ron! Thanks for providing yet another fantastic insight on restoring these awesome mechanical works of art👍👍

@viscountalpha Год назад

It's looking great! I love how this is coming together. Always neat to see.

@briscoelcamino7850 Год назад

Looking great. That was very helpful. I have a new world with the same issue. Thanks Joe!

@markjackson1444 Год назад

Outstanding work Ronnie. ….saving pinball one machine at a time. This looks like it’s gonna be a really fun game.

@PlumGurly Год назад

And the enhanced sound might make it even better.

@Nananea Год назад

Beautiful work so far!

@ericernst7414 Год назад

Great video as usual! Thank you Ronnie.

@MrButtonpresser Год назад

Amazing back glass! Great job again guys. She's looking sweet.

@djmips Год назад

You are legit! Nice work once again.

@butchs.4239 Год назад

Midway used the same screen printing technique on their marquees back then. I have a sitdown Spy Hunter and all three of the marquees have places where the paint has lifted/flaked off the glass. Looks like a workable way to repair them, thanks for the video. 😎

@webbfaze124 Год назад

I did this technique when I restored my Paragon. It turned out nice! Managed to get the triple thick under most of the lifted sections. Anything dead flat, plus weight, will help hold everything to the glass surface. The Saran Wrap comes right off once the clear dries. Should last a long time. The Medusa is looking great!!

@EsotericArctos Год назад

Good that you had most of the pieces. Even though the cracks in the print may be visible, but it will look amazing. Glass does expand and contract quite considerably. That's why buildings with a lot of glass need to have spacing between glass panels with a flexible sealant. Also the paint from the screen printing will expand and contract at a different rate. Add moisture to that and it separates from the glass. Moisture plays to the cleaning theory, where the bottom peels first. It can be tricky painting glass and making it stick.

@LyonsArcade Год назад

I saw a Harlem Globetrotters one time where a piece ironically the size of a basketball had pulled away from the center of the glass, it's just a thing with these Bally's of this vintage. None of the other manufacturers used the same process....

@jabotheclown617 Год назад

Your vids and Bob Ross helped me get through some rough times. I knew I liked you Ron 😂

@LyonsArcade Год назад

What's goin' on Jabo? Bob Ross was the man, did you ever watch the Woodrights Shop? that guy's cool too and still doing it

@jabotheclown617 Год назад

@@LyonsArcade I haven't seen that. I'll have to check it out 👍 Thanks

@cliffordmaxwell9802 Год назад

Great save on the back glass! You got skills MR Ron. I would love to see you build a digital full size pinball machine, you guys have the CNC machine so you could cut out your cabinet and everything to custom fit your screens it would be awesome.

@samuelcolvin4994 Год назад

With a sheet metal cabinet, not press board, to guard against press board disintegration!

@eddiehonest Год назад

One of my favourite channels even though I don't own a machine. Curious, is there a video where Ron shows his face? Be neat to put a real face to the mystery voice narration.

@bobmonzo3137 Год назад

Looking great Ron. Nice job on the backglass. By the way, I also like the linear flippers. If they’re done right, they work fine. I can’t understand the hate for them either.

@frankgagliano9677 Год назад

The backglass looks very good after you fixed it up. Are those flipper bats the original? The lights on them are very cool looking. Great series of videos can't wait for the next one. Thanks Ronnie see you on the next video.

@jamesdarrow9801 Год назад

Also glad to see you put the gold face drop targets in try green leds in her eyes looks really good

@KaPH33n Год назад

I just did my pinball recently. I watched all of your previous videos about triple thick. I wish I would have waited for this one specifically for the information about the windows. There's a lot of people recommending masking it with tape... I think that's a bad idea. I basically came to the same technique and conclusions as you about just flooding the windows and it dries clear enough.

@markcnc Год назад

Looks great. Just a thought. Try heating (warming) the paint to soften it (heat the paint and the glass (the glass from the opposite side)), then press it flat while it hardens, wait till it's cooled), then do your spray paint thing.

@bryansmith5980 Год назад

triple thick is great stuff. I have used it on emblems for a old tool box

@lobsterman5786 Год назад

Hi Joe, I’m coming through Rock Hill first week in January, is the Medusa for sale? If not, will you have any other pins that are shopped? Thanks

@jamesavery3559 2 месяца назад

very nice i am looking into getting a very old machine, the back glass look's so bad that i am wondering if it can be repaid or is it impossible?

@scottgm321 Год назад

The red lighted flippers are cool. I haven’t seen that before

@jimkuna8687 Год назад

I think the Creature on the glass turned to stone from looking at medusa because that's what happens in the story really cool video cool game..

@grandpaseed Год назад

I would test wax paper it is much easier to handle and flatter and i like the look of the translucent flippers do they make them for the top set that would look good.

@mram6311 Год назад

This may seem a little strange, but could you show how you transport games from off site to your store? Do you use a truck, box van, trailer?

@purplepeak8575 Год назад

Hello it's been awhile. I worked on my countdown machine again. I 3d printed a drop target to replace the broken one and got it installed. I decided to order a Flipp all in one board PI-1/X4. I got it installed and set it up to the correct language, game and turned on the attract mode option to make it more flashy. I was able to play a few games. The drop targets all reset, the ball went to the launcher, the kick out hole worked, everything worked. Then after i finished a third game there was a warning message about "Check Coils Danger Locked On" and when I pushed the start game button it would display the message CHECK! I'm hoping it's just the diodes.

@timitbiscuit3620 Год назад

Higher and Higher, high as a mountain, Hi how are you. I'm high just watching this paint operation. :)

@theicebolt4361 Год назад

would heating up the old paint flakes, to make them temp malleable, hence flatter ( heat and weight down before lacquer stage ) ? [ everything would be room temp - bit of low velocity heat ] see if art flattens better ? (shouldn't affect glass ) a good bit over the windows help seal further = Great Logic - ( got to be dust free area though ) Great Content ~ Thank You.

@LyonsArcade Год назад

That might work, you'd have to do some test stuff on one to see for sure, i'm always leery of heating up glass I'm always afraid it'll shatter and then we're screrewwwwwwed. Thanks for watching IceBolt!

@ocsrc Год назад

That is awesome artwork. The backglass is something that people would say is occult and would never be allowed today. I imagine they would have issues if they saw it. Eventually they may even ban pinball machines with artwork they don't like. I really miss the old days when we had freedoms. It is crazy looking back remembering the 80s and 70s. Being able to not be tracked. To have your own thoughts and not worry about being cancelled and having to censor yourself. Those were the days. Leave in May and literally be unfindable for 3 months. Just wild thinking about it. Before wifi before cell phones before internet. Back when kids could travel alone. Now kids can't go outside without their parents. I really miss the old days.

@LyonsArcade Год назад

Preach it brother, when we were kids we used to just disappear for hours or the whole day and when we got home our parents would just ask us where we'd been, lol

@samuelcolvin4994 Год назад

I miss those days, although for me it was the early early 1990s

@stphinkle Год назад

I think the next video should be testing the switch matrix and fixing the switches that may not be working right.

@alanarmstrong2323 Год назад

Bob Ross ,Happy little trees everywhere lol !

@dollarbindudeA Год назад

"Come On Now People?" LOL

@brainimplants Год назад

I loved the drop target joke. You got me, triggered my ocd :)

@LyonsArcade Год назад

OCD is a disorder

@naytch2003 Год назад

@@LyonsArcade My late wife had that..drove me insane..but she kept a clean house..a real..clean house 👍

@diegoknyte Год назад

Seems like theres an LED out on the KIT led’s about 1/3 from left

@katenunyabizness9221 Год назад

She looks great! Such minimal damage for being in a crawlspace. How did you identify it as a prototype? Did I miss that bit?

@LyonsArcade Год назад

The only difference between the prototype and the other version is the amount of nudity on the main Medusa character, they cleaned it up for the other version of the backglass, this is the naughty version. Nobody really knows how many are of each though, they call this one the 'prototype' but I don't think it's super rare, there's probably hundreds of them and a thousand of the other one.

@katenunyabizness9221 Год назад

@@LyonsArcade Ah thanks. Can't have a shadow and nipplage corrupt the youth! Thanks for the reply and awesome videos.

@viscountalpha Год назад

If you look at the production back glasses online and the prototype blackglass, it shows this one as the prototype. I left a message in a previous video after discovering it. ronnie would have noticed sooner or later.

@samuelcolvin4994 Год назад

Stupid question..... Medusa is often portrayed as having a snakes tail for legs, like a snake version of a mermaid, this gorgon has normal female legs. Was the original Medusa of Greek legend supposed to have the snakes tail or legs? (I'm not good with mytgology)😂

@jeffo881 Год назад

Pinball, Wabi Sabi and Bob Ross all in one video.

@raymondroot7457 Год назад

I remember a pinball game that the top of the playfield would open up like a fault line during one of the bonuses Do you know what game that was I loved it

@webbfaze124 Год назад

That would be Earthshaker by Williams. 1989.

@raymondroot7457 Год назад

Thank you that was such an awesome game

@mikesmotorsportsgamingrevi4814 Год назад

Our Bally's lost world has some peeling and cracking near the Tail on the right side between the two score Windows the cracks between the two windows

@jasonsteverson4609 Год назад

Hey Ron!!

@lincolncwynar1547 Год назад

So how do you determine that it’s a prototype model from an original?

@LyonsArcade Год назад

They just call it the 'prototype', basically she's more nude on this one, they cleaned it up at some point and most of them have the more cleaned up version. This is the first version, nobody really knows how many they made though, but since she's more nekkid it's slightly more desirable.

@xdibblerx Год назад

I have a Bally from 1982 with this issue. Someone decided to use scotch tape to put the pieces back on. Any clue how to remove the tape?

@LyonsArcade Год назад

Unfortunately you're pretty much done if it has the tape on it. That was a common thing that operators did when they started flaking... There's no way to remove it from the pieces of the artwork, it'll just all fall apart if you start trying to remove it. You either have to live with it in that situation, or if there's a crack somewhere that you can get to, you can try to spray the triple thick in that crack, and leave the tape on it when you press it back onto the glass...

@xdibblerx Год назад

@@LyonsArcade Thanks for the reply. I will give that a shot. Was considering trying goo-gone on the tape but was afraid that would create a bigger problem. I think I better just do the triple thick over the tape and hope for the best. Thanks again.

@robertlipsett2535 Год назад

you do know all the drop targets do not come up when the game starts. its normal since they can be controlled. they pop up in there on play field sequencing as you play

@sparkybabes Год назад

Exceptional restoration as usual. Progressing nicely! Would the main body and backbox have originally been painted in the the same dark red/burgundy as the apron? You can see how much darker the apron is from the painted body, but I've no idea if they originally matched. Such a fun series to watch - can't wait for part 6!

@LyonsArcade Год назад

In theory they should have matched but I don't think they ever got it perfect on most games, it was usually slightly off.... Thanks for watching JJ!!!

@brucebradshaw5947 8 месяцев назад

Use wax paper it won't stick, but try it on something that don't matter first.

@waynegram8907 Год назад

JOE CLASSIC, So you use clear plastic wrap and spray a "Clear Coating" onto the clear plastic wrap?

@PlumGurly Год назад

You spray the back first, then apply the wrap. You pull the wrap off when it dries. The wrap insulates your weights from the wet glaze.

@waynegram8907 Год назад

@@PlumGurly what type of spray? Is it just a clear coat or something else

@PlumGurly Год назад

@@waynegram8907 -- He explains it in the video. It is a no-fire pottery glaze. It's like lacquer, bur it applies very thick. It's called Triple Thick, and maybe Krylon makes it.

@waynegram8907 Год назад

@@PlumGurly I wonder who makes this spray because I thought it was just a normal clear coat but its something different

@PlumGurly Год назад

@@waynegram8907 It is a specific spray, not just any clear stuff. Ron has talked about it in multiple videos. And he gave plenty of detail in this one. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nngkD6AELek.html

@williamcooper2368 Год назад

We LOVE Bob Ross ❤️

@davidcarper5411 Год назад

It has to be worth at least 15 or 20 grand even with the back glass like that

@AvengerII Год назад

@14:00 -- "This (Triple-Thick) smells good!" And I NEARLY posted a remark about how Ron was probably a model airplane glue sniffer in another life!

@themilkmanv Год назад

I may have missed it. Do you know who did the artwork on this machine? Python?

@pcachu Год назад

IPDB says Kevin O'Connor. Also has quotes from him about the earlier version of the backglass art. (Which ended up on the flyers advertising the game, apparently the promo materials were rolling well before the machine itself was ready.)

@themilkmanv Год назад

Thxs PCachu

@2011MoJo Год назад

Why is there 2 flipper buttons on the right side, and only 1 one the left?

@LyonsArcade Год назад

One on the right is the ball save thing between the flippers, the shield of God or whatever they called it....

@2011MoJo Год назад

@@LyonsArcade OK thank you.

@robertlipsett2535 Год назад

magnificent work. unlike you I have more time and would use a dremel bronze wire wheel on rusted metal then polishing wheel and rouge instead of sandpaper or you could use your knife polisher. I got to get one of those

@OhRonaldo Год назад

Obviously the cold/hot issue was exacerbated along the bottom line because they used ice water to clean the glass. Mystery solved Ron! ;-)

@lileveretteyoakumiii Год назад

Hello Yodelayheehoo

@AvengerII Год назад

So, this is the closest we'll get to a 1981 Clash of the Titans tie-in pinball machine?

@MRNBricks Год назад

Good enough for the girls we’re datin.

@LyonsArcade Год назад

I'll be Dipped!

@toddament8035 Год назад

Still waiting on the gameplay video

@cojones8518 Год назад

You could have left the cracks in the guy's back and painted it red or orange like he has magical hot cracks in his skin. Not original but should look cool.

@davidmuff1537 Год назад

its 25 minutes longer than it needs to be

@LyonsArcade Год назад

You could skip to the end or better yet, just not comment so none of us have to waste time with somebody not smart enough to skip what they don't want to watch.

@pl5624 Год назад

Bob Ross...what about his teacher bill alexander??

@LyonsArcade Год назад

What about Bill's teacher?

@pl5624 Год назад

@@LyonsArcade that would have been a long time ago...

@midnightrunner0478 Год назад

Michael, stop helping Ron! We have criminals to catch.

@vfdpiu14 Год назад

I don't think using polyethylene was a good idea. Acetate film would have given a better result.

@LyonsArcade Год назад

I don't think using Acetate film is a good idea. Shrink Wrap gives a better result.

@ShawnBernard70 Год назад

@@LyonsArcade I would use thin sheets of mica collected by red haired virgins between the worm moon and the hunters moon. But hey, it's YOUR PINBALL, you do it your way. :D :D