Aubrey Matshiqi: Defining 'State Capture' | ANC History | The New Dawn Narrative 

His analysis is always on point. I loved that "battle between two devils" narrative. I have always maintained the the Gupta capture was just a small branch of a much bigger tree, infact, as Gogo says a disturbance of the real capture.

😅 You are schooled Sizwe, so are we. Wish many people can see this interview, I'll do my part and spread the link. This is one of your best interviews Sizwe, based on content and information gathered.

I would like to take this opportunity to Thank You Sizwe for this amazing interview and uTata too.I understand why uTata was not allowed to teach.so much food for thought in one interview.

I have always stated that the state capture began by the revolution capture, which took place in the CODESA process. Where our freedom struggle was turn into an election struggle, or rather fighting to have the right to vote. When in its essence democracy, whatever that means was suppose to be the by-product of our struggle on the end in itself. Once the narrative was changed, the revolution was captured, because as Gogo states it, our people were not only victims of an undemocratic process only, but the denial for their participation in a democratic dispansation was to ensure that an oppressive world order was followed; as our struggle involved changing a certain world order impossed on us. That allowed the stealing of our mineral resources, which was preserved as it is in the CODESA narrative. The landlessness was also preseved in the CODESA narrative. Which made our struggle nul and void in achieving the main objectives of our stuggle. “ Mayibuye i Afrika”, Thina Sizwe Sikhalela Umhlabe Wethu”, were now turned into meaning we want to be able to vote. So if we begin with the state capture or rather the capture at the state level, and ignore the fact that the capture took place in the revolutionary level, where CODESA became an evidence of such capture, we are still dealing with the symptoms. We know that it is fact that leaders entrusted with negotiation a better settlement; since we were made to believe that the struggle can be won through negotiations were captured already. Mansions, lixurious cars and secret meetings we held in the dark of the night with the captain of industries. The western repressntatives of the narratives that Gogo is referring to. Let’s revisit the CODESA lies and will be exposing the real capture. Thanks Sizwe, excellent interview and thanks to Gogo👌🏿

Wow!!! This conversation makes it clear that SMWX is succeeding with their objective for establishing this channel... Thank you very much Sizwe, our worldviews are being challenged and expanded!!! #BigUps

Wow. Mr. Aubrey Matshiqi knows exactly what is going on. State Capture was just disturbed. The Youth need to watch this. Good interview.

You owe the nation part 2, 3, 4, 5.....of this conversation.

Very interesting statements around state capture or rather the interruption of state capture. 'Policy askaris'... This was a great interview Sizwe!

This is a great interview!!! I would love to hear more from Gogo Matshiqi!! Brilliant!

Wow. For a change hearing such an unbiased insight!!!

Imagine if the mainstream media was as impartial? Now such a tour de force is only accessible to those of us who can access youtube. Thanks again for this platform. Please consider making podcasts.

That was fire by Gogo. I think part two is needed. Keep up the good work.

WATCHING THIS INTERVIEW FOR THE UMPTEEN TIME ...LEGENDARY STAFF.......”There is no state that is not captured. I don’t think in principle we are opposed to state capture. We are opposed to state capture only to the extent that the state is capture by forces and people who are not like us, by people who do not like us and by people we do not like. When the state is captured by people who are like us, who like us and we like, we have no problem with state capture.” Gogo Dungezweni Matshiqi

I should say the content of this interview far exceeded my expectations, really hope to hear more from Gogo Aubrey. It seems in south Africa, we have been fed the idea of a milk and honey space and all we are left with is an idea that we are free but still need to hang on, freedom is on its way, this is some very rich content, Ola Bra Sizwe

This was a powerful and intellectually engaging conversation. Ntate Mashiqi has very useful insights and analysis about our political economy and around contemporary debates. We surely need a part two of this conversation. This was a whole lecture worth revisiting and drinking from. Big ups Sizwe!

Sizwe this interview was on point in many levels. I am looking at our state at the moment and think Gogo was very right and prophetic. The state capture in my view is worse than it was during Zuma years. I think GNU is going to make sure that powers that be carry on controlling state. And unfortunately, no one, even our media, will report about state capture. It was great to go back and listen to this interview again and look at our state at the moment. I quote, "... we captured by people who like us, who like us and we like, we have no problem state capture." This is what is happening right now. I wish Sizwe that you can revisit state capture debate with Gogo. I will be happy hear his take now after few years has passed by.

Damn! The people that come to speak to you seems so relaxed and free to speak freely and honestly. The "analysts" that are currently giving commentary - wearing the mask of analysis - to mainstream nowadays are so rigid and stiff. It's as if they have things they don't want to address and people they don't want to anger. This is why the internet needs to continue disrupting mainstream media! Maybe we will get more honesty from commentators and analysts! Keep it going SMWX. Ayeye

I love the caution to not be swept unthinkingly into a lexicon by conniving politicians for their own agenda forcing us to be unsuspecting agents who peddle their narrative. Well done Sizwe and please follow up. The gogo is game.

This is very good work on covering south african history, My on must watch this someday

Fantastic interview!

more please - this is one of the best interviews I have listened to

I'm a big fan boss! Pure talent, and gift. It's like watching a bird in flight. Respect I still say school em

I love how he explains state capture...he's absolutely right

I'm really inspired by your interviews Sizwe.

what an insightful engagement, we need part 2, powerful stuff

Thought provoking, what a powerful reflection on various issues of interest. Best socio-political analysis

Great valuable teachings.

My favorite Political Analysts..

I had thought with the birth of Newzroom Afrika CH405 we were going to get the other side of the news. I have concluded that they are just ENCA Ekasi. Of late I am having to watch Russia Today CH407 to get the seemingly unbias opinion but the problem is they are not local news. Thanks Sizwe for choosing to 'Run your Own Race'

Aubrey is such a seasoned analyst. There are a lot f brats out there who claim to be analysts. Aubrey has to be the best I have listened to.

Please organize a lecture with this guest. What he is saying needs to be engaged with live. So many questions!

Loved the interview. Well done sizwe. The cameraperson must just keep a still hand, too much movement not pleasant. Great interview overhaul🙏

Well done, more conversation on this matter, call on Gogo again, for part 2.

Part 2 is needed

Aubrey mashiqi is the best analyst

This is deep Sizwe bring him back

"...because of colonialism and Apartheid, a numerical minority has become a cultural majority." This is extremely powerful and important to the social structure of post-Apartheid South Africa.

Wow, what a gospel of Political seduction, from the entire instruments of freedom of South Africa. What a tragic situation the people of the made to stomach. However, they whole seem have lost its liberation charm. They say, every good mariage its not a mariage unless ends-up in Tragedy. Our state capture is in a chick-to-chick. Thank you Aubrey.

wow and wow.... best conversations

We live in interesting times indeed.

I would like to say to Sizwe I am completely surprised that I am not subscribed to this channel.

Powerful discussion as usual but then the only fear I have is that we are more into the diagnostic and analysis of the problems with complex multiple views far more than we could offer possible solutions to at least dampen the pressures coming from the perceived misdirection

I will transcribe this, Sizwe. For free. I think it's important to have this available as text.

Ayeye... subscribed.

Watching this, I feel like I am attending a philosophy class :)

Loving the interview, kodwa camera person, is a little too busy, and making me lose focus.

Deep analysis.

Brilliant!!!!

Why are we not getting more of Aubrey Matshiqi...???

..."Devil can quote the bible better than both of us ". Then the question is " who is Cyril Ramaphosa ???????" Why he had to replace Thabo Mbeki during negotiations. Join the dot

The gender analysis 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

I'm interested on the Whatapp Channel ?

yoh! cameraman!

king of politics

CAMAGU..

I know the whites are listening but they don't want to comment in this

woooooooooow

I guess you heard what Aubrey said,How he is trying to stop your Biasness, you can't feed him what to say....one thing Sizwe ,you have asked too many people about Ramaphosa and Gordhan,..why don't you set up a meeting with them and ask them Personally, and prove that you not Biased and against New Dawn Era heh?

This man is too deep. His analysis is not narrow hence it is unpopular to the current new dawn.

The ANC is in government not in power - uGogo Aubrey Matshiqi

It has been the culture that the agents of anti-change has always recommended those who resonate with their narrative. I am sorry, Ramaphosa is supporting that narrative. Pravin, Tito are now the trusted on this narrative, but unfortunately, South Afrika will only see them after ten years. Ramaphosa, Pravin and Tito are not changing the narrative, they maintain the status quo and are simply made angels because Zuma was the worst.👊🏿

I would love to hear more of his views on JZ testimony. This was a brilliant interview. Much respect to you Sizwe and uGogo Aubrey Matshiqi.

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Sizwe you're a good interviewer. You ask a question, allow your guest to express himself, and your follow-up questions show you were listening. Not like someone whose mind is already made up.

The ANC is in government and not in power. Amen 👌

I concede that I'm now an SMWX junkie. Great content, deep yet clear. Thanks again Sizwe and Gogo Aubrey for the insightful dialogue

When Present J Zuma said politic is politic and does not have economy nd We talk to those who have the economy to invest to imprement promises. Peoples lough to that statement look now.

Wow wow...this guy is so so brilliant and a true critical thinker

We definitely need part 2 Sizweeeee

Free education for all personified!!!

I like the narrative competent when Sizwe says Gordan is competent then sir Aubrey says the devil is competent and the competent lies and steels in a educated manner that i can drink to

Very honest and not biased political analyst...

#Ayeye!! 2nd Episode, with Gogo Aubrey Matshiqi, soon to follow. Waiting with bated breath

This was a good interview shame, he cut out the scapegoating Ramaphosa for everything

Brilliant sizwe brilliant

Yoh!

Sense at last! 👏 A different glance and insight based on a historical context.

It is always a pleasure to hear Mr. Aubrey Matshiqi speak on historical and current South African Issues. It is nice to hear him explain how he views the issue of state capture.

Please invite the gentleman again. Such wisdom.

Great Interview Sizwe. AYEYE!!!

very interesting

Nangu lo'mjita... Bona fela. The most wonderful son of soil. The respect in your Tone poy. jerrrr

Loved the interview... Please improve camera angles

Sizwe thank you, thank you, thank you. I have just subscribed to your channel for part 2.Please don't disappoint🙏

Gogo had me going: "go deeper Gogo". He is literally putting into words what he had me think about but could not put into words. Incredible insight gained of Zuma's testimony at the commission. All along I was searching for a legal understanding, but the penny dropped when I watched this: that it was political understanding I needed. Thank you for this, Sizwe. The use of resources explanation makes a lot of sense. Do I understand correctly that those who are anti-revolutionary may not necessarily know that they are doing wrong, but in the sincere hope that they are serving the country they are in fact advancing state capture? There are those who know what they are doing, but like the devil, they quote the Bible to achieve their ends? Perhaps state capture is larger than Zuma. It is inconceivable that one man can be the mastermind behind such a large force. Perhaps he watched many use his name to capture the state, and he happily allowed them, but he was not actively involved at all times.

Great discussion, I love how you allow uGogo to go on uninterrupted to make his points which have so many nuances. It's such a pity that people only share short clips of these discussions, too often out of context.

Join the dots is what Pravin said.

This is nice Sizwe keep it up. We have an alternative fair platform to rely on, jus keep the fire burning.

Hhayi guyzin. I was here with a pen and paper and its over kanjanlo nje... bring him back please...whaaatttt yoohhhh i have been schooled...im buffled by my own reaction because it means this analysis it challenging the narrative i had,even subconsiously...

I love Mr Matshiqi,, thank you very much...mmmmmhhh, i love this guy. Can i get more of this....mmmmhhhh.

@Sizwe thanks man for this platform. Thanks also for this interview. This is one mind I really respect in politics

He is indeed prolific...

A brilliant analyst I rate him highly...AM👌👌👌👌👌

Its unfortunate for me that I just started following you... but I feel this old man is having different views from Msholozi. I wish I could hear more of this

With Aubrey - we are schooled ,not mngamanga , he tell it ,as it is. On point No one say it like him. He is the best in that field

Im watered by Gogo very intelligent

Let me keep sharing this interview

daaawwwwwg you owe us a part two on this

Yhuuuuu cameramen!! 👎👎👎

Great episode as usual. You are consistent.