Maybe rather than use fancy power cables to get a few percent improvement you could have a glass of whiskey before you sit down to listen. You would be surprised how much better your system will sound with a bit of alcohol in you 🥃 You will likely fall asleep before the listening fatigue sets in 😴
Love the AB at the end, I was flicking through the video before I got to it! The difference is so notable from a harshness perspective, it’s so much smoother with the better cables which will only make longer listening sessions that much better.
Listening from my iPad Pro I can hear the X 3 has better dynamic contrast space between piece of music comparing to the x3 the free power cord has better, openness and harmonic.
I could not discern the difference on my Google chromebook speaker ... until I changed the chromebook's power cable to a £10,000 Nordost Valhalla one. Then the bass was airy and the stereo snapped into place, even on the mono speaker of the £75 netbook. Imagine how better it would have sounded if I plugged the Nordost Cable into my wall socket instead of a greasy 5m power extension from Poundland.
Loved the song so had to play it on my system with my Meadowlarks... Of course it is kicking the snot out of anything on YT. Would love to try some of these out to see if they make any difference from my Chord Carnival cables.
I'm watching this on my desktop PC with headphones and the sound of the hurricane cable is like night and day. I'll definitely consider this cable along its power conditioner.
That's because they've been messing around with the volume. Don't you hear some of the cables as being louder? So this may be a scam since they're not comparing apple to apples. To be a fair comparison the volume shouldn't change. The volume change is what you're hearing and not the cables.
@@1jcc I've already figured that out that they are adjusting the volume higher when they put a higher model of cables. I Checked their other video and found it here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PaJhsp_PG90.html&lc=UgyL1bPQnI1biJZgm2h4AaABAg.93jidU7ialu9A2qJ9tdfXu
@@EUK007 Speaker cables are NOT the same thing as power cables! Power cables have mostly been debunked as snake oil. That's why they resort to playing with volume here to make you think there's a difference.
The difference in clarity from the hurricane and basic cable is massive. The basic cable sounds muffled and “wavy”. With the hurricane i can basically SEE the words leaving the singers mouth. It comes down to alot of humans not having as good hearing as others 🤷♂️
Thats awesome! I just bought a used Audioquest Evergreen cable that will replace my 50p ketchup cable. Monday i can test it and i cant wait actually. Nice comparison here, love it! I hope i will hear this live some day. :)
If this had any basis in physics, CERN, Bell labs and Lawrence Livermore would be their greatest customers. Audiophiles even try to reason away well established double blind methodology to promote this kind of snake oil demonstrations.
Why are you changing the volume between the cables? The volume should remain the same. Right now, the only thing you've proven is that you've set the volume different between the cables and that's why we hear a difference.
He was shutting the amp off I think to make the cable changes so he had to turn it on from standby and set the volume level back to where it was or check that it was correct
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I realize that he has to reset the volume after a power shutdown but the volume was not reset back to the same level. The volume in this video has definitely been tampered with. If you want to show people the truth about whether or not power cables actually make a difference, do an honest recording and don't fiddle with the volume.
Couldn't notice any difference, maybe in person. One of the best upgrades for me was the power cables. Even affordable cables made an improvement in my system.
I could easily hear difference on my 400$ studio monitors. But you might not have a revealing system. If you have crappy electronics, then don't buy expensive cables. It is not worth it. But if you have good electronics then it might be worth it.
it was a reference to "snake oil" …..after more than 40yrs in the industry I can say with confidence "high end" cables are a total waste of money...however if you have the money (and I do) I would only buy them because they look good, kind of like chrome on a motorcycle, looks cool, but doesn't make it go any faster, cheers.
@@poserwanabe Of course the most expensive cables are a waste of money, but that's buying a Ferrari too. But buying cables for 50 dollars instead of 5 dollars can give some benefits. But it's not snake oil. Snake oil is a thing that doesn't work at all. Yes it's diminishing returns, but it's not snake oil. But it's a path I don't want to go. I will just buy reasonably priced cables. And enjoy the music. The music is the most important thing after all. It's possible to enjoy music using with standard interconnects, lamp cord as speaker cables and the cheap power cable that came with the equipment, but you will not get the same sound from your system. But it can be enjoyed.
All these cables do change the sound but there is still a really hard sound that is fatiguing to listen to. I had a similar experience until I changed the fuses to Synergistic Orange and Blue and burned them in, now I get detail and a smoothness and accuracy. Change your fuses to SR you'll be blown away.
Even over RU-vid one can hear the difference each cables has on the system. The music became more coherent because the bass doesn't 'lag' and it has more texture and character, while the vocals are more expressive. You should offer a rental scheme for these cables! : )
The only difference I hear is that they changed the volume between cables. That's how they're tricking you into believing that there's a difference. There IS, the volume.
Tesla Talk Then you must be deaf as they even said that the volume was not kept at a constant. It’s deaf people like you that get ripped off by fake cable companies because you actually can’t hear due to a hearing impairment. Each time they swapped cables do you not see him adjusting the volume? Even more to the point, do you not hear the volume difference???
@@1jcc So you came here just to take the p!zs? You really can't be so smart if you waste your time just trying to annoy people. You don't hear a difference then why not just move on?
msee No, I came here to set people straight as some of you don’t seem to know the difference. The old hackneyed saying, “a fool and his money are soon parted.” Perhaps you’re the type of person who just moves on when he sees a predator prey on unsuspecting people but not me. When I see something, I say something. It’s called being a decent human being.
To those that doubt these products like cables and power conditioners do not improve or makes no difference... I feel sorry for you that you can’t enjoy the music to the level of those that can hear the difference. There’s too many people that hear a difference and they have no vested interest or skin in the game for me to believe it’s coincidence or a conspiracy. People do not want to spend money for no reason. I have bought power cables that I felt added an improvement in the sound so I think it does work. Is it worth it? I wish the products were cheaper though.
Well you enjoy your system knowing you have spent the extra money on power cables, so it must be better. I have tested myself on loan from a specialist dealer speaker cable. Now I tested with my hifi friends by swapping the cables without them knowing what was being used. The silver line cable approx 10 times the price of my OFC speaker cable. The results, no one person correctly identified the better cable test on test. Have you tried this method or did you just install the power cord and say to yourself, that's definitely better? Interested to know. This is because you feel sorry for someone like me who cannot hear the difference 🤔 power conditioners are a valid product.
@@a0r0a7 I had a ringing in my tube amp. I replaced with power cable. Tried both an Audioquest and a Shunyata, and both worked in that I do not hear the ringing anymore. Also, the background noise is much quieter, and the music seems to lift from a black background if that makes sense. Tried several generic power cables before buying the expensive ones with no difference.
@@veetour interesting result. Not sure exactly what happened there. If it cured the issue then good for you. Sadly, I sat in this demo, myself and others in the room did not hear any difference. This video on you tube shows someone agreeing he hears a difference in one particular demo over the three days. I wonder what the results ratio would have been if counted🤔 at least you can enjoy your system again without the ringing. All the best👍
@@a0r0a7 I'm glad it worked. I didn't want to spend money, so tried all the power cables at home with no luck. Whatever electrical interference or noise was largely gone with the the cables I purchased. It was too obvious and noticeable to believe it was imagined. Usually, I think cables in general make marginal if any improvement, but are not worth the money. In this case, I'm happy with the result.
I'm listening with focal clears, and the difference doesn't seem to go to such great jumps until the Niagara and the Y-3. After that, the gain is nominal. These aren't bass heavy headsets, but they are able to pick up a lot. So basically 1400 pounds is the only time you get what you need. Not sure if the Niagara comes with the monsoon. I doubt it, so that's 300, 100 Y-3 and 1000 for the Niagara. Even the guy is saying it. I think though, the more expensive your set up the more you will benefit with the foolish expensive cables. Need to listen at: 2:13 3:47 5:15 7:00 9:57 12:20 Switching between those start times to hear anything consecutively
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Indeed, I do not doubt that. Just saying listening from equipment that can pick up differences much better, I noticed the greatest jump with what I suggested. I see you made the 2020 show about speaker cables and that one you gave comparisons. I did the same thing on my own. So just picking up on those differences will be linear in real life or via headphones. I just recently got my first home theater system and have been debating the value, so I've been researching these videos. I believe you said, or was it the other gentleman, that you own the niagara? Does it come with a power a cable and which one?
@@mikegoddard7354 I don't own niagara they are very good I have been an Isotek user for many years they are also very good. Isotek come with power cables niagara dont I am pretty sure. I wasn't having a pop I was just explaining the demo in real life the differences were easily audible significant :)
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Oh I did not take it in that sense. Never a negative person or one to criticize. Appreciate you taking the time to help people learn and the effort you put in to make these videos possible. Been on debate actually, between the isotek and audioquest line, not which is better. Local audio shop has the IsoTek EVO3 CR-EU-C15 Premier Power Cable for 75 dollars as a demo product. Normally I see it is about 200, and it is an older model. But definitely a step up from the freeby
Save your money kid, I wouldn't line these chumps pockets. Use the power cable supplied with your Amp it does exactly the same job as these overpriced cables.
Cable design is completely different than designing amplifier. It's not strange that they are separate entities usually. It takes lot of effort to design good cables. PS audio is a company design power cables. But they use Audioquest cables in their reference system simply because Audioquest cables performance is better than their own cables.
Terry great video as usual , l spent some time in this room and noticed the difference in sound I think your comparison at the end of the video really shows this. Keep up the good work. Ps I was in the b&w room and was the one you hit on the head with your camera gear , even so I will still remain a subscriber lol. Chris.
Its there Jim, Listen to the start and stops of the notes - listen to how much more musical decay there is with the Hurricane - the female vocal seems to go on forever compared to the other cables that stop it much shorter. Thats a lower noise floor letting you into the music more. but as Toby says in the video there are real big gains to be had from the entry cables depending on the system
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I am only listening over my iMac at the moment so I will put on my good headphones later to hear better, thank you. I'm also really looking forward to owning the 1200 Niagara conditioner but I think it has been put back to July now. :-(
Definitely a cleaner sound with audioquest cables a cheaper alternative would be to externally ground your system this is more logical and would be more beneficial than £2500 on a conditioner and powercord. A quick fix doesn’t repair the root cause.
you can't just earth the system legally everywhere in the world. It would certainly be prohibited at my place of living. I must have a professional coming and installing the earth for me. And that would cost much more than a couple of cables from audioquest or others making similar products.
@@poserwanabe I can ground it, but it will come to a cost. I can't have a system that is partially grounded. I will have to use thousands to get my electric system grounded.
@@poserwanabe I live in a place in the world where all permanent electrical installation must be done by professional certified personnel. I can't just earth my system myself unfortunately.
Switching to the new Y series It seems like it's a different file he is playing of the same song. Like someone hit the loudness button. Lots of bass and a little brighter. Honestly, I'm not sure I like the new version of their power cables. Are you sure he wasn't playing a different file that was EQ'ed differently? They wouldn't do that would they? :)
ive been to live a/b/c comparisons. the differences are staggering. i genuinely feel sorry for those who cant hear the differences. that said...the compression thru youtube makes the sonic improvements barely perceptible.
Please don't feel sorry for me I have saved alot money knowing my system sounds just fine without these power cords. Oh, I sat through this demo at the Bristol HiFi show this year, no difference whatsoever. Enjoy your setup👍
@@a0r0a7 its funny actually. i both feel sorry for you....and am jealous of you. if i were unable to hear the difference.....it wouldve saved me $$$$. best wishes.
@@googoo-gjoob well pleased you get a benefit from these products. I trained in audio, TV and video electronic engineering. I always blind test to prove a result. We actually did this and no one person could ever pick out the supposed better cable test on test. Did you just install your cables and say that's better or did you successfully not knowing pick out your more expensive power cable - speaker cables etc..? I am not jealous of you though 😁 best wishes👍
@@googoo-gjoob you know what you are plugging in doing it that way. Perception will have some impact on your expectations. Why did you not say to the dealer, swap the cables, let me pick out the winner. If you then did successfully choose the expensive cable each time over the out of box cable then spend that money. Each to their own on how you choose to evaluate a product. All the best. Been good talking 👍
Hello 🤝 Which one is better to change the cable first? From the power outlet to Niagara (1200) or from Niagara to the amplifier (Michi X5) ? And which cable of the two should be more expensive ? Thanks!
Change them both at the same time. Just send me $500 and I'll hook you up with 2 super duper high current, copper coated, beryllium encased, diamond tipped power cords. You'll love them and save quite a bit of cash. It's a win/win!
@@monstermind1976 I didnt notice it and I hope not. I know the guy who ran the demo extremely well he is my doppelganger and he is also a top bloke I really dont think he would do that as they don't need to. People have to remember they are doing these demos all day for 3 days at the show so they need every convenience possible to make that do able so using a remote control is understandable
I can hear the difference and i'm delighted but my system is 2500 euro, i can't accept yet to spend 1300 more on only the power conditioner and 1 cable. It's something i have to reflect on. But why there is no test of all cables without the power conditioner ?
There are lots of different products available at different prices the power conditioner as a single unit will cost more but it upgrades every component in your system so think of the cost divided by each component you plug into it . It costs a lot less then :)
laddo with the black glasses on is getting paid by audioquest..lol. got to agree now terry ,after changing my power cables for more expensive cables ,i too could here a big difference on my own system.
With any demo like this people assume that something is going on but the guy doing the demo was definitely making sure about the setting on the amp could we possibly listening to a better version as we couldn’t really see what was going on . People are always going to argue about this kind of demo my personal view is if you believe in what the cables are doing then buy them , but between the cables he used can you really justify the price difference , come on £1500 for a cable even when the guy said the price he looked away :)
I made a whole video about this recently - you own a piece of kit how much did that kit cost and how much would a better spunding one cost. At some points 1500 is a tiny % of what a new component will cost so it depends on how you look at it
Pursuit Perfect System Hi the most I’ve ever spent of a piece of equipment is £3200 that was for an arcam av860 processor for that sort of money that is value as for what it’s for and can do also including Dirac live I do use shielded power cables made to measure that I purchased for a fraction of the price from Hong Kong I personally would like to see reviews of hi quality stuff with out the high price tag ,this stuff is available and I don’t think people shouldnt be brand manipulated and think that this is the only option
@@gingerninja7187 in this video audioquest demo a hundred pound cable up to 1500 and they have about 6 models in between these prices. that is so there is something for everyone and everyone can benefit despite their budget but as a result the differences between them will inevitably be smaller. I always suggest trying a cable in this instance a power cable at a very high price - 1500,3000, 5000 just to experience the effect they can have. But like anything depending on how good the setup and system is will determine how much of the benefit you might hear but either way doing it for the experience of it is worth it to get an appreciation of what this type of priced cable makes. There can be component level upgrades in them which is amazing when you think about it - but that level of improvement will never be cheap to buy, we cant expect it to be.
@@gingerninja7187 your example is perfectly apt - you own the 860 - if you wanted a better sounding processor with dirac live what would you buy? The dataset, the bryston SP3 these will cost you around 10 grand. Or you can buy a 1500 power cable and get better sound - the numbers make lot more sense when looked at like this :)
Pursuit Perfect System yes that would be lovely but I’m very happy with the arcam 860 and my Chinese cables I can achieve a great sound without wasting money I’ve have borrowed a selection of expensive audioquest power cables from my local hifi shop I had them for over a weekend and compared them listening to several songs and a/b test and tbh their maybe slight differences but tiny ones , so after we connect the Chinese cables back they sound exactly the same , they sell on eBay different cable diameter mine are 18mm give them a go Also like interconnects why don’t you demo the none high brand ones this is what people like real life prices it’s like it’s only good when you spend loads of cash , that’s not the case
I can ask him if you really would like to know. YBA kit is unusual in that it doesn't have a standby setting. Maybe Toby was just making sure the amp was on and selected to the right input.
Thanks for the video. I found the overall system sound from the beginning to be harsh in the treble in particular. By the end of the demo, i.e with the best cable and Niagra 1000 I almost wasn't bothered by it. Any reason why only a Dragonfly Red was used (yes I understand it's one of their products)? Surely those other components deserved a better Dac (although I've never tried a Dragonfly Red in a 2 channel system, so maybe it was good enough). You could swap out the DF Red with say a Chord Qutest Dac + get the better AQ cable priced at £300 i.e total of £1500 = price of the more expensive Hurricane cable
Wow. Awesome demo of how power cables have been elevated to a system components and make a significant contribution to overall sound. I say in some ways the recorded video demo is better than in person. Easy to jump back and forth to hear the contrast. I'm still waiting for @Pursuit Perfect System (hi Terry) to publish the Tellurium power cables range demo but I'm already thinking my money might go to Audioquest.
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thanks Terry. I was just teasing you. I know you work hard to bring us the good stuff. I'm really enjoying your coverage of the Bristol show. I was there but it is so handy to have recording of the rooms. Thank you again!
Great video!! I felt the salesman was more honest than I expected. He more or less admited that more expensive cable's were for people with more money than sense. This has been my experience.. Not that I believe power chords make a difference, I am 100% sure they do! Placebo as a theory has been satisfactorily eliminated in my mind as the most expensive cable I bought I hated. People who suggest we are all brainwashed, and could all be in the head well that could be an argument in either direction could it not? I have found that 90 to 95% of improvement to be had can be had for a few hundred quid or even lower, after this point I feel the differences are small or even sidesteps at times.
Yes, the best buy is to buy one of the cheapest cables, which gives the greatest leap for the least money. But that should not stop people who want to pay more from having better cables. I will most likely be satisfied with one of the cheapest cables. Because I also take care of my money. I can enjoy music now too. With the cables that came with my equipment. But I have ordered some cables from Supra, which makes similar competing products. But they are a much smaller company than audioquest. Supra cables are made in Sweden. I might also buy a cable or two from audioquest to check how they behave. But I will test the Supra first.
@@thepickyaudiophile I have supra cables for most devices, and a wireworld cable for my amplifier. But all are in the lower price range. I have an Audioquest cable for my TV. But I have no experience with audioquest with hifi equipment. When I plugged in the supra cables the first time it was really a revelation for me how much it actually meant to have good power in a hifi system.
Hi terry could you answer this question ,when i close my systems down for a few months when i go to uk from spain does the AQ battery packs on all my cables shutdown or does the batteries keep warming the cables ,please help ,thanks
sorry it's not the screen but there is a network of cable attached to battery within the design. I have seen some internal shots of one of the power cable designs and it wasnt anything like I was expecting it to be in terms of what the battery is connected to.
I'm waiting for a review and in-depth comparison of duplex wall receptacles, I'm having a hard time choosing the best one ?? My current receptacle has a very open soundstage with good transient response, but I'm sure I can find a better one. Please help ??
If you can't tell a difference, then you should getter better playback quality. Even at compressed youtube quality there is a huge difference on even quite cheap gear. Or of course maybe you don't want to hear a difference.
@Douglas Blake What are you trying to accomplish? I just told that RU-vid is good enough for decerning difference between cables with some playback equipment. Those who were in the room listening would hear more differences. Most people don't need to buy expensive cables. It's no point buying a 200 dollar cables for a 200 dollar amplifier. Most people don't care about the small differences anyways. Most people have never heard a high end audio system, so they don't know what they are missing. But they can have great joy of listening to music on cheap equipment. The music is the most important thing after all.
@Douglas Blake And you said trust your ears. Which I do. Hence my original answer here. Better cables will give better dynamics, and lower noise floor. The dynamics is the easiest to hear on the RU-vid video. If you had been in the room, the lack of noise would become more apparent.
@Douglas Blake And if you don't believe that good power filters and cables work. Try it out for yourself. That was what I did. I was very sceptical until I tried it out myself. But after I tried, it was like night and day in difference on my system. And if you don't want to spend hundreds of dollars to test it, you can get demos in some hifi shops in your area probably.
Very nice video with smart formatting. Playing the 2160p50 over a USB-bus-mastering DAC and head amp into Sennheiser HD660S, the difference is small in my ears. There is progressively more cohesion and air, and yes, the bass improves. The material (music, software) used for the demo has a limitation in that it is partly synthetic and plays in the mid to lower mid octaves (as of the piano). I am a believer in "cables" but wonder if the circumstances and music could have been more revealing. For those who don't believe, the AC cable needs to relay current into your amplifier in bursts or pulses when the capacitors in the power regulator stages need to be replenished. This generally happens when the amplifier is louder with heavier (bass) music than what we heard. The pulse moment the amp ingests and stores lots of electrons, the AC cable also can become sort of a random AM signal transmitting antenna. Shielding helps contain this around your low power devices and signals. Mind you that the shield needs to have a proper ground or earth connection at the far side from the device. As all these cables in the demo are "passive", they do not reshape the AC from the wall. They prevent through-the-air contamination by shielding and could allow faster ingestion of Ampères. Your amplifier has a simple rectifying stage that provides the electricity that has to go to the speakers (in as short a distance as possible - amplifier design.) The power amplifier is like a "T" where the top cross bar of the T symbolizes the AC to speaker path and the vertical bar symbolizes the signal from the source that has to modulate the power signal. I.e. when dirty AC enters the simple power stage of the amplifier, then most of the dirt comes out of the speakers. Whether you suffer from this, is easily verified by listening when the AC grid is the dirtiest in your neighborhood as well as in your house, and then repeat the listening after midnight. As homes in the UK provide electricity to wall outlets via a so called domestic ring, you might benefit from a (shielded) direct spur to your analog amplification, directly from the main fuse board where AC comes into your home. And then have some of these shielded higher end AC wall outlet to device cables. Keep digital, motor and motor controller electronics as separate as possible as long as this does not introduce Voltage differentials via earth connections between devices (mind devices with an earth link between them to (not) end up on a different AC phases, provided your house is supplied with more than one phase.) As the UK uses AC outlets that cannot swap live and neutral sides in AC connectors, you should not have to worry about that, but in continental Europe this is a concern in many countries: make sure all devices are connected with proper phase. I use a couple French wall outlets in my listening studio that cannot be rotated 180 degrees but still allow for universal German Schuko type connectors that are the default here. So over here, something could be said for having a UK power distribution unit (PDU) with a continental wall plug as a way to deal with this. (And then use UK power cords from the PDU to the devices. Which prevents others in the household to plug the 1600 Watt vacuum cleaner in the PDU. Sucks!) If you need to verify live/neutral correctness, use a detection device to find AC cables in walls. These come cheap in DIY home improvement shops. Switch all devices off. Physically isolate one device from all signal connections, plug it into AC and switch it on. With the detector measuring, walk up to the device until it beeps (or signals) that AC is found. Measure distance from detector to device. Now rotate the AC plug 180 degrees. Repeat the procedure. The shortest distance between detector and device is the proper live/neutral alignment. Repeat with all audio devices. (Alternatively, review all circuit documentation and verify things have been connected that way.) Using wall outlets that allow plugs one way and the other, mark which of the AC connectors (paths) is "live" so as to make sure in the wall all connections were made the same way. And after having figured out all devices and cables mark the "live" orientation/side in these as well. You'll notice major improvements if you sync all the live/neutral alignments. And at some point start to wonder why a $€£ 25K amplifier does not solve these issues in its mains power handling stage, but still could benefit from an active AC cleaning device that regenerates a 50, 60, 80 or whatever AC wave (that may not be pure sinusoidal all the time ... in an expensive unit). Provided the active power thing does not choke your power amps.
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@@Gholhovallahoahad I don't have IG, FB, etc. Just ask your question here. Be as direct as possible (this is called blunt in other cultures ;) ). If I don't know the answer, I'll tell you, and if I do know or have an opinion on it, I'll share my insights with you.
Any advise on this. I've a problem with Audioquest mains cables. I've recently purchased a y3. On plugging it into the mains the IEC socket of the cable arrives at the amp IEC upside down. I've got to twist it 360 degrees to get it in. I've looked at various amps and there IEC inlets vary. But most the opposite way around to the cable IEC. I've noticed the Niagara 1000 IEC inlet is upside down to suit the cable. I've never had this problem before due to most mains cables are usually flexible .
maybe the cable you have has been fitted incorrectly, however I cant see it as usually the cables only line up if you install them in a certain way. However I review a lot of different kit and the IEC inlet is different on all of them - some upright, some sideways. Maybe try contacting audioquest to check it
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I doubt whether the cables been fitted incorrectly because once plugged into the wall or mains distributor it follows the path correctly into Niagara 1000 5000, 7000 correctly or any amp that's got it's IEC that way is fine. Or even a IEC on it's side .But all my components with the IEC the other way around it's a nightmare to twist the cable IEC 360 degrees.
Those cables are a fair bit of pish. Don’t get me wrong though you don’t want a crap cable but worry about that and hay why not also worry about the cable to the socket. Get a sparky to wire a 10mm radial in from the consumer unit? Would you do that? Probably make better difference over a higher length of run than those over priced plug and flex. Where do you stop? Definitely at paying for over priced plug and flex I’d say!
isnt this what smart hifi dudes call snake oil :P someone explain for me how would powercables do any different ? the power that gets to your wall don't contain these super duper expensive cables.
RU-vid's audio compression makes it very difficult to hear differences in audio sources period. It would be like comparing two paintings by looking at them through dirty glass If you think you hear differences between cables, then most likely the video's audio soundtrack is being manipulated in ways to give you just that impression.
I don't manipulate any sound tracks they are straight from the recorder to the video - please don't make an completely unfounded accusation like that. If you hear a difference that is because the difference has been recorded. I have recorded many differences in many things. Compression is a moot point - it reduces quality some but not that much it doesn't change the sound at all which is why its a moot point. More important is to watch the video at full quality and to use a good playback system to get the full benefit from the initial good recording
How much does a $1000 cable cost to make? $10 maybe? Hahahaha with 20 of those CABLES you can easily buy a car! Even if they do make a tiny difference in sound quality, you are still getting ripped off. I bet if someone took me to Abbey Road studios they won't have expensive power cables. So maybe the "differences" some are hearing aren't really there.
And if you don't listen with good equipment you will not hear the difference on this video. But I have one of the cheapest studio monitors and cheapest sound cards and still hear a difference on the video.
@@oysteinsoreide4323 you said a difference you didn't say a better difference that dosent mean these cables are ever worth the money they are made for fools and their money ie the rich people. take note who have been here before and have tried and tested and tell you there a waste of money your better of changing a cartrige or upgrading a cd player then thinking a cable is going to make a world of difference in sound quality it's not .
@@justinparkman3585 The standard cable sounded more bland, less punchy than the more expensive cables. Clearly better sound for the more expensive cables.
There´s a reason why i have £30000 worth of cables in my system. And thanks to the secondhand value of cables, i only paid a fraction of the new price for all my cables.
as a very experienced user of equalisation - if you have a set frequency response that's tight in its delivery you will hear the benefit of the 4000 upgrade more - one doesn't replace the other :)
@@MrsZambezi Noise coming from electromagnetic radiation. It makes ripples in the 50 or 60 Hz wave that comes into the amplifier. Those ripples will be amplified together with the music. The better your power handling is with filters and cables, then that noise will be reduced, hence avoiding that noise from being amplified. Because the wire in the walls also is an antenna, you will not get the best results from just a new power chord. But you don't need to rob the bank to get something that is decent enough for most people.
@@MrsZambezi And just a side note. Just one year ago I did not believe that power filters and power cables really could matter at all. But because of the wast amount of contradicory information on the internet, I decided to try it out myself. I just bough budget friendly power cables and power filter and the effect was huge. Especially on the power amplifier. That is the device that benefit most from getting new cables and filter.
The problem here is that RU-vid compresses sound, and no matter what quality system you have (how "revealing"), every single one of these sounds identical to the original one using stock "freeby" power cord and basic power strip. This is a matter of fact issue with trying to make the comparison over the Internet. IF there is an audibly discernable difference between the free and the £1500 power cord including the benefits of the Niagara 1000 power tree, it is simply impossible to hear it here on RU-vid. That is NOT contributing to the benefit side of the situation since many (most?) people consider this snake oil. I have an extremely revealing system with 160 watts per main channel into high quality (and pricey) MartinLogan speakers that I can "A/B" with my older Klipsch horn-based fronts, and as much as I try, the first example and the last one are indistinguishable no matter what volume or speakers I use. My thoughts are that this particular area of expense expands to meet the pocketbook of those of us who can afford to drop coin at any level into our hobby. I use 10AWG speaker cables and yes, there ARE "oxygen free". I have tried every kind of 'advanced' speaker wire including solid silver and at best, some of them actually are horrible compared to the basic stranded OFC speaker wire that costs under $1/£1/1€ per foot or roughly 2,5€/£2.5 per meter. Nothing sounds better than properly terminated basic copper wire. Maybe this is the difference? Many people don't have the best banana plugs on both ends of their speaker cables, but I invest $2/£2/2€ per connector on them. I feel it is the best way to spend my money. If I were driving 1000 watts per channel into my speakers it _might_ matter? How many of us have that at home? "The chosen few", and as far as I care, they spend what they want anyway, so AudioQuest is as good a place as any to divest your money - for them. I prefer to waste a few bucks on bi-amp for my system, but I just opened another can of worms...
Maybe try listening on a better playback system - in saying that I can hear the difference via my phone speakers but I have monitored the videos during the recording and making process so the differences are in grained into my mind. I think they are very easily audible .
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I am a new subscriber and I don't doubt that the difference is audible, but I don't hear anything distinguishable here on RU-vid. I would absolutely LOVE to see this (hear obviously more correct) it from high quality downloads as opposed to the fixed media here, which neither you nor I can influence or improve. I am always looking for new goodies, and "Bristol HiFi 2019" is my search term this morning. Great video and I appreciate the time and energy, Terry!
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I attended the Hifi show in Bristol. I sat in this demo and there was no difference between any of the cable swaps. Suggestion and perception were what was on offer. As I have said before I would like to see the demo where we hear the track, have the cable swapped and so on. Then at the end take the results from the listeners. The demo I sat in the guy was very fair. Asking us what did we think. Again, if it makes you happy and you feel there is a difference spend your money. For me this just backed up the need not to buy power cords. Enjoy👍
That is a surprise because you can hear the difference in my recordings quite easily and clearly which is a diluted version of the original event ?? If you cant hear it dont spend the money on it.
Again, I don't think it has anything to do with the quality of the system. It is almost 100% relative to the bandwidth of the network. Perhaps my unlimited data plan with 25M/sec is defeating any possible ability for me to discern the difference in quality? I don't doubt that the difference is audible, but I simply can't hear it here.
It's of course a very easy put down , but for those like me with relative poor hearing who would. struggle to hear any difference , I just wish I could .and for those that can it really comes down to preferential taste and the ability to pay for what some regard as snake oil . Its very wrong to judge others who can afford to lavish well over a grand on a cable , and smacks of jealousy , personally I would. rather have better ears than better cables , some. choices in life cannot be made , this makes buying a cable an easy one for those lucky enough to be able to.
You could try to practice your hearing (same is I did) but at the same time be aware that you might hear the difference and thus have to buy more expensive gear,! (As I had to do to be a little happy with my sound at home)
The mains power cable doesn't matter as much those are claimed to matter, maybe nothing at all in most cases. Speaker cable can matter negatively if you are using something what is very thin. Use some decently thick cable and it will work OK. On the interconnection cables (AUX) there can be difference. The main difference is the cable capacitance and shielding. The cable capacitance between preamp and amp interconnection is the main contributor, and it's effect can vary in 1:100 or more with the same cable depending on the characteristics of your preamp output. With LP record player connection there is usually a "sweet spot" of cable capacitance which is right for your specific magnetic pickup needle that makes it sound bright (wiring value can make it sound too dark or bright). HDMI, and Optical cables don't make a any slight differences to video or audio. They are digital technology that transfers data either correctly, not at all or in some rare cases works for some time and sound/video starts to break down very noticeably.
Whether the first or last it don't matter. I've seen many tests done on different audio equip. changing from wall power then thru a conditioner to make power super clean then the power made so dirty it was like it was going thru a dimmer switch and guess what, it made no change in what came out of the equipments power supply or the audio signal. I'm just amazed at the placebo denial that exsits in audio. People actually think there is some unmeasurable mystical element in the sound that can't be measured but we can hear, And totally deny the scientifically proven mystical element, our brain! $$$$$$! And power cords ARE NOT audio cables!!!
listen again - listen to the decay of the musical notes - they get significantly better as you go up the power cables as the noise floor gets lower - the volume initially seems lower but there is actually more dynamic range - the difference between quiet and loud - listen again and pay attention to these points when you do ;)
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Thank you for the answer - maybe you think i am fool? :>D ))) with 2 last cables sound is dead at all - yes lower noise floor - but no air and dead sound.
@@ЄвгенДомашець I dont think your a fool, dont know why you think that, I am trying to point out some of the differences to focus you attention on when listening. If you prefer the cheaper cable happy days for you ;)
Hi as the guy listening to the music said if you don’t believe that the cables can make a difference try some , well that’s exactly what I have done a couple of months ago I borrowed a few power cables same brand as the video from my local high end Hifi shop ranged up from £45 to £1000 , l had them over a weekend so plenty of trial time , so with our test chose a few different song tracks did all the usual switching back and forth with the power cables ect and to be honest we could NOT detect any difference , the only benefit of the cables are shielding and look nice , If you like these type of cables on the video you can have them made by someone in China for a fraction of the cost just look on eBay even made to your specification Let’s be honest if a power cable is going to improve you’re hifi components surely the company’s making high end hifi would give you one when buying an expensive item and not a basic cable
If you can hear difference or not really comes down to the quality of your system. If you have a budget audio system, then I would not spend a fortune on power cables unless you want less radiation in your home.
Oystein Soreide Hi it does not matter if you have a £100 hifi or £100,000 hifi if the cable is supposed to make a difference it would do with any system audioquest are masters of bull shit unfortunately there are morons who believe them Let’s face it what ever your power supply is you can’t change it
@@gingerninja7187 All these people and the Audioquest con men would fail a blind test. They have an excuse for that too though, they have fabricated more bs to discredit blind tests. It's strange that Doctors and real scientists still use them. The magic only really lives in the CONSUMER audio world.
theheartlessnoob Hi yes they are the Scientologists of cables , it’s a real shame that their are such company’s like audio quest , tbh we as a consumer just want to purchase a true and honest product , let’s be honest after watching this video demo would you believe and buy these cables , this guy has snake written all over him :)
Audio system designers are so naive of electricity entering their systems that they can have their designs significantly improved by changing a wire. OK, next bottle of oil, please...
ASR have published independent studies that evidence the difference that power cables can have over output signal. Clearly your findings have been affected by the foil you have wrapped around you little head.
This is a demonstration of how real the placebo effect is. There is nothing in a power cable that can affect the sound. The power that comes out of the equipments power supply is exactly the same no matter the power cable. That is all part of the function of the power supply in each piece of equipment. I love good audio sound tho there are so many rip offs in the industry, but power cord takes the cake. Being a union trained electrician and having 40+ yrs of experience and a vast understanding of electrical power distribution this stuff almost makes me laugh or angry, not sure which at times. I guess if you believe you hear a difference, spend your money.
Yeah, it makes me laugh and makes me angry too, in equal measures. Now that the "old school" HiFi issues have been solved (wow &:flutter, and things of that nature), the HiFi industry has just invented new "problems" for them to "solve". All pure nonsense. The power of suggestion is working overtime on the dork sitting on the sofa.
£99 🐍 £1500 per metre! L😂L Problem is most people can't justify spending that sort of 💰 on cable's. Those price's are creeping into, time to replace hardware territory! 😱
if your hardware is to a high level and you love the sound of it - then it might make sense to buy the £1500 power cable over a new component to get a better sound - once you hit a certain price point in kit its costing a lot more than that for a better sounding component. Everything is relativ The £300 monsoon is a cracking VFM cable based on this demo
@@PursuitPerfectSystem Hopefully their power cords are more effective than their exotic HDMI cables! 🤔😬 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UoVixorZTDM.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BgDB86tkth8.html
@@nespressoman Sounds about as effective as swapping a Ford engine for a Ferrari's. Money well spent, screw the handling! 😨 Lipstick 💄 on a Pig comes to mind 🐖 L😂L
Bottom line, dear public, if you can hear a difference between any power cable of say 12 gauge or over, then the problem is with your amplifier's power supply being poorly filtered along with the human rationalizing process that spending a lot of money makes this sound better. This is snake oil. Invest in better basics especially speakers. Interconnect cables are a different matter but they too reach a point of inperceptable difference at a very low price point. Talk to an engineer for answers.
Hell yeah 👍🏻 The worst of the worst. Audiophiles are a gullible bunch of technically illiterate fools though, so this whole business is really just about cash extraction. They'll never run out of suckers.
If you enjoy natural sound, never get involve in snake oil. Sadly snake oil has become a very lucrative industry but a disaster for music lovers who trusted unscrupulous reviewers. Always trust good engineering scientific approach. Hi-fi is "fool's game".
Sorry guy but you are snake oil salesman what does your power cable and conditioner do? Does it cut down on RF noise? Or MFI ? If so doesn’t the amps transformer already do that? People save your money 💰 and don’t buy the hype
@@PursuitPerfectSystemthe power of suggestion is a powerful thing. Plus, people often won't admit to hearing absolutely no f-ing difference, for fear of being thought of as "not a true audiophile".
@@njm1971nyc that would lead to them buying it taking it home hearing no difference and returning it for a refund. If that was the case there would be no cables companies by now. Instead we have loads of
@@PursuitPerfectSystem I believe a lot of audiophiles are SO convinced by what they're TOLD they should be hearing - they trust the "experts" - and even if they have any doubt, they keep the "fancy" cables as some kind of mental insurance policy against FOMO. Others are too lazy/busy to return things. Others are too embarrassed that they can't actually tell any difference and choose to stay quiet. Multiple reasons, none of them because they're hearing an actual improvement. That's my belief anyway. Naturally, your beliefs differ. Just for one example, often these high end cable companies will also make claims about video improvements. Video is SO much easier to prove as being fact or fiction. You can literally look at it, and very easily measure it. Hence, there's a lot less "rubbish" being spouted about video improvements, compared with audio, but these companies like Audioquest do still make their crazy claims. Audio signals are far easier to deal with, technically, than video, yet an Amazon Basics HDMI will do everything you could possibly ask for. Audiophiles believe in magic, I guess.
