Do they really expect her not to have another drink in her lifetime just because she had a rocky beginning. She loved Thomas and all he did was shit on her. When you're young you don't think of the consequences until it hits you in the face.
His dad probably wasn’t born in DC. Indian people take their traditions very seriously just like any other cultures. Metuhl acts like that because his father treats his mother like that
Suraiya Sharker I think he meant being raised in the Indian culture which he was.i didn’t see enough I’d Matul to form an opinion. What I did see if him I just thought he was awkward in front of the camera and was trying to sound cool.
Shep is an idiot. As if he doesn't live in a male dominated society where men get away with more than woman. I honestly find his misogyny and snobby arrogance disgusting.
Bunny Vazz I agree. I cannot stand Austen. Everyone is always doing something to him. Yuck. Then he puts his two cents in. And Naomi. Just because he was born in DC he is Indian. Not a fan of Naomi
@EC C omg, say how you really feel, Katherine has gone thru a lot, shes very young. smoked pot, had her kids taken away, stopped smoking pot. now shes on prescription drugs legally. shes not handling her prescriptions well with her anxiety, this is obvious that and there prob isnt anyone in her life to guide her. hey, but its ok mr. rich thomas ravenel drinks, has dipped in to illegal drugs, accused of sexual misconduct etc, why is it ok? hes rich.
I'm thinking Austen is prickly over the whole "Time's up/Me too" movement, and doesn't want to be seen as part of the problem. Too bad, because he IS part of the problem...they ALL are. If he isn't worried, he should be. That goes for the rest of the guys too. The misogyny and double standards run deep with this crew. The good old boy network is still alive and well in the South, and these fools aren't giving up their privilege without a fight. I hope the girls stand together and teach these guys (and the viewing public) what's up. That lesson is long overdue.
Didn’t Kathryn go to rehab for marajuana basically so she could get her kids back. I think she was young and going through a hard time and maybe now she’s painted into a corner because it all played on TV.
Just what I was thinking!! So she shouldn't ever have a drink because she's a parent? It wasn't drinking that she got rehab for and parents don't drink according to all these other people I guess. News flash, this parent did and so did most of my friends!
It's All Love - You are straddling the fence. Kathryn is not sober as she sits there. Austen may be annoying but at this particular moment what he is saying to Kathryn should not be classified as annoying to a third person. Otherwise it means you support her continuous drinking to the point of not knowing what happened live. To Kathryn yes - because she is angry that a castmate is telling it on TV. It is a painful truth to Kathryn. But she is wrong, if she wants custody.
@@agg5984 how stupid is your comment!! The court monitors her! You can't lie to being drug tested! If she was lying, she wouldn't have her kids anymore!!!
@@ktmom7322It's the only way I can explain her slurring/behaviour and everyone making faces while she's talking about being sober. She could very easily be abusing prescription pills and alcohol.
It's easy to say someone is addicted to adderall to hide their own addictions, the entire cast is either on coke, adderall, xanax, drinks heavily or smokes weed. They're all addicts trying to hide behind someone else's addiction.
@EC C lol nooooo one ever tried to baby-sit her, if anything they were always trying to look for ways to kick her out of the group. they look down their noses at her so easily, meanwhile all of them have skeletons. they're just not as public as kathryn's
I think the cast knows a lot more about Katherine and her drug abuse-- particularly Craig and Shep, and they ain't saying shit because they were prob doing coke and addy right along with her.
Finally!!!! Thank you...I thought I was the only one that heard that. Also she went to rehab over marijuana because Thomas is a tool and here in the south it's not legalized yet and that good ole boy way of thinking is unfortunately still a thing..she can drink anything she chooses as long as it's not infused with weed. She is obviously on medications prescribed by an actual physician for PTSD, anxiety and depression. Last but by all means not the least, why is it that any one in this group has any room to judge her on anything period? Every one of them has an addiction of some sort so why is Kathryn being held to a higher standard or better yet being singled out?
True colors finally shining through? Or cooking up the storylines to not become boring and lose viewers? I mean, it looks like that on the REAL HOUSEWIVES series. who knows. But you're right. They can only pretend fake nice for so long. XD XD human weakness.
And Craig is obviously on drugs...he’s rapidly aged in just the past 2 seasons and sounds like he’s inhaled a Tabacco farm but spends his days having other people make “his” pillows.
also leave kathryn along if yall are her friend u can ask these questions outside to show if you truly care every person have issues to deal with so dont go pointing fingers
@@joda7221 Huh? I don't see jealousy amongst the girls towards each other even a bit. What makes you say that? If anyone is jealous, Shep and Craig are always fighting each other to be right and they both fall short all the time!
EC C, no she doesn’t sound simple. The point she is making is that most of those people that are sitting on that couch are alcoholics. Austin, Shep and Craig are not in a position to talk about her abuse of alcohol or anything else. It’s very easily to talk about someone else shortcomings and not talk about yours. Shep and Austin can’t get out of bed without a beer in their hand...and they are potheads. So no, they aren’t in any position to lecture Katherine.
EC C you sound simple. They rag on her and they’re doing the same. Craig shep and Austin have probably gotten high with her. And when cameran was her age she was on the real world and doing girls gone wild. It’s hypocritical af
EC C yes Katherine has all the legal issues that makes it a problem. The point I’m making is they ALL do the same things. They’re able to point fingers at her ONLY cuz of the custody situation. They’re all hypocrites
Not every man would mind. And especially if her boyfriend paid any attention to the acrimonious interactions they now have. There would be absolutely no threat to the two of them being on a trip together because Naomi does not like him even as a person let alone potentially getting back together again.
What if it was a "work trip"? This show is essentially their JOB. (For some, their only job.) Production puts a lot of emphasis on the entire cast being present for these excursions. This isn't a normal ex-boyfriend situation, or just a bunch of buddies going on a trip for the hell of it. Naomi should get a pass for that reason alone. The new guy knows the deal with this show. He knew it when he met her that this type of stuff would happen, and like it or not, he needs to accept that this is what she does. Guys who are involved with models and other professions that require their partners public exposure and travel handle this gracefully all the time! I think a guy who made it through the rigors and competition of medical school can handle this, no problem.
I was surprised to hear that Katherine has relapse. Let me say this, Katherine will not recover or heal as long as she is on this show. Their are a lot of people on this show that are addicts, they just won’t admit it. It’s easy for them to focus on Katherine addiction to keep the focus off of them. Austin, Shep and Craig all need to be in rehab with Katherine. If Katherine is serious about her sobriety she needs to remove herself from all of these toxic people (including the women), because none of them have her best interest at heart. I like Katherine (she’s my favorite), I want the best for her and her children. In order for her to be a good mom she has to be presence.
People, places and things...they say all that you need to change is EVERYTHING! Kathryn knows this, of course. I get the impression that she just isn't ready to surrender. Too bad. She could be a real asset to the Recovery/12 Step community.
Kathryn was asked to come back to the show, she had left for the sake of herself and her children. I actually blame bravo because they will push to get their storyline. She is the sacrifice. Unfortunately you are never at your strongest when you are a recovering addict. They screwed her when she was signed on again. Sadly
Meh. Too judgey for me. Unfortunately when I was going through a divorce I was drunking way too much. Not good but I came around. And I still have a glass of 🍷 just not every day. And I think she will be fine. If Thomas wasn't such a psycho I think she would be even better. Not that this should be an excuse but she is very young. I think social media can be just as damaging and harmful for people suffering with life.
i love how people ready to say her bf is controlling and it may be a culturral thing the man born in dc, so question what are some of you men on the show excuse your just being you smh hush up and leave her man.
Kathryn didn't have a problem. Her use of weed was included in documents that had to do with custody and she was labled badly. She used like most of us and is still doing ok. Hell i think Shep has more of an alcohol problem than anyone else. Austen has become a diva
Yes, but the alcoholic, immature guys haven’t lost custody of their children. Court documents say she went to rehab for more than pot; cocaine, pills, AND alcohol so why even drink a sip if your kids are at stake?
WHY is there such a double standard for Katherine???? Why does she have to be prefect and straight as an arrow or risk losing her children....while the REST of them can get white girl wasted and high as a kite....INCLUDING CAMERAN.....AND ANDY!! And no one blinks an eye?
Girl, you took the words right out of my mouth. I think she is more excited about having a boyfriend then being in a relationship. She’s trying to out do Craig...and therefore, she will settle for the verbal abuse.
I think she may have more serious issue than just depression . I'm bipolar and I think she is too. The shopping house she can't afford car . She cannot drink at all if you are on the meds for it,it makes you act off. Now her mom has died, oh Lord she needs real friends to help her through this. Keep Danny ,find friends who will keep you grounded. Let's all pray for her. I went through the same shit, cost me a lot I have three grown kids who will never talk to me. I hope she does not make the same mistakes I did. I'm 56 now and better ,but still have my days.
Katherine plays victim a lot. The cast behavior toward her seems like they are tired of protecting her especially when it’s obvious she hasn’t been consistently sober.
Naomi thinks this metul guy is going to marry her.Asian Indians very rarely marry outside of their culture.They believe in arranged marriage and many are promised as infants to marry when adults to each other by their families.
Linda Brown it’s very bizarre - I think Danni is the only genuine one to her. There is a certain amount of snobbery and elitism about this cast which is borderline delusional. I think Naomi, Cameron and the other one know that Kathryn has a huge following so they are careful not to rock the boat so to speak - as they aware of backlash, but I don’t believe they care of have the best intentions for her. The side eyes and the silent judging is something.
I dont think they are jealous at all. Who would want to lose their kids and deal with that drama. I think they are annoyed that she gets away with alot bs because of weird fans like you that think shes some kind of queen.
Rich of Austen to call out Kat and say he was "disappointed" in her behavior on WWHL. HE BROUGHT MADISON ON THIS SHOW. HE SPREAD RUMORS ABOUT THE WHOLE CAST TO HER AND JUST UNLEASHED HER. THEN GOT MAD WHEN NO ONE LIKED HER. KAT WAS THE ONLY NICE ONE TO HER!!! Got Austen is just such a hypocrite. "I like strong, driven women except I don't like that because I want them to just let me do whatever the hell I want with no consequences". Boy, bye.
I believe Robert Christopher makes a very good point. As someone with just a year shy of a decade of sobriety as well as being a specialized health care provider, drinking alcohol is not living a life of sobriety. Kathryn has thus relapsed. She needs to admit to herself that she is no longer sober, get past it, and get back into recovery mode. Kathryn you are a very young woman with the world at your feet and this is just a blip in what can be an incredible future for you. There are not many young women who have had the courage and intelligence to face their substance abuse head on. Oh to have had your wisdom when I was your age...we really are all rooting for you. Take ownership, and move forward in health. Now for the rest of this cast. Kudos to the person that stated Kathryn won't succeed in sobriety until she leaves this show. Austin, I think you a lovely young man but please don't have a marijuana dinner party with pot, edibles, and tonnes of alcohol with someone still struggling and new to sobriety and then state you are "disappointed" in them when they relapse! Shep, in the past your generosity of spirit and thoughtfulness of others made you truly endearing to the audiences and the odd civil outburst was negated by your "southern charm". Lately it appears your own substance abuse has you bound up in level of arrogance and mean spiritedness that I truly don't believe represents the good man you are...I really think it the alcohol impacting your moods. Now ladies, how do you not look Kathryn in the eye during this episode and be so judgemental of this young woman battling one of the worst chronic health conditions but at every turn...every party...every dinner...serve and/or drink alcohol in her presence?! Would you sit and eat cake in front of a starving person? No of course not, that would be cruel. Please everyone, if you can't at least abstain in front of Kathryn for goodness sake at least don't judge her.
Awwwwwwww Chelsea let me down with her hair and outfit, she looked older and kept biting her lips 😩 She's so extremely beautiful but they did her wrong with this hair. Darn.
She looks super hot n sexy especially when she wears that hat ( like a sexy J Crew model ). Great shoulders n tan - beautiful woman she is - they did her no justice on this show reunion
Megan Peters I think she’s coming at Austen because he’s the easiest target. He’s soft hearted and won’t come back hard like the others. I was aggravated she did that as well. Like go at Craig and Cameron as well.
Rose McGrath then why does she always make it a point to not drink on the show when everyone else is drinking? She was drinking season 1 all the time with Thomas and the gang
Juilian and Janita Snead she literally explained once the only reason she generally makes a point to not drink is because the viewers are always coming for her over drinking when her issue wasn’t alcohol
Although I too questioned Kathryn's behavior on WWHL, in her defense- she did NOT say; "WHO?" when Austen tweeted in. It was more of a vocal expression like, "Ooop", (like uh-oh). Austen misunderstood Kathryn, that is why it sounded like it "came out of no where", as he said. I DO NOT believe she was trying to be or act dismissive of Austen at all. In addition, when Austen made his comment about Madison's indiscretion, and then Kathryn said "Time's Up", I believe she just didn't want Austen to waste his time on Madison any longer. That Is how I took it anyhow. I just don't want to see Kathryn get hung for something she did not say, or mean. She's been through more than her share already. However, she was definitely acting weird on WWHL, and tonight she is definitely not acting like herself when she is 100% clean. Why would she ever have taken that chance fail her drug test with Marijuana and Cocain. That is a horrible chance she took and she is going too lose all custody if she doesn't completely STOP doing everything.
Keep Naomi, Bravo: she’s the only one on that show that gives a base line of normalcy and common decency and has bigger balls than all the rest on that show and isn’t afraid to call a spade a douchetard! 👏👏👏. Plus she’s beautiful and classy.
I thought her addiction was pills not weed. With everything going on in her personal life being on a reality show may not be good for her mental health and sobriety. She was clearly off on wwhl.
She lost her kids in the beginning for smoking weed. Thomas then took the kids away and was with trashley. Austin has nerve to call out Kathryn Dennis. And they won't stop bashing her they all think their perfect and their not. Its ridiculous come on..
I ❤️ how nutty this cast is. It makes my life watching this train wreck season after season. Thank y'all for being so damn crazy. I highly enjoy every moment. 🙋🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Naomie says “He was born in DC” Unless he was adopted by a caucasian family or any other race really. What Shep meant with his comment “ Don’t you think it’s it’s a cultural at all?” Would be because he was brought up with a father or relatives at that way. It at had 0 to do with him not being born in India.
They do and they are likely alcoholics but she has kids that she’s already lost custody of. Why risk losing them again? I’ve been rooting for her but she’s on a slippery slope.
Why didn't Andy ask what her prescription drugs were . You don't figit uncontrollably,slur every word from anxiety .She needs to stop saying how long she's been sober if you drink you are not sober!
Absolutely hilarious how the people there want to sit on that couch and question Katherine’s sobriety... laughable. Hey guys take a look in the mirror and focus on your own sobriety. Everyone on that couch has been waisted this season and every other season too. Disgusting how any of them think they have any room to question her sobriety.
@@arnoldstrongnumerouno everyone else hasn't had kids taken away and claiming to be sober either. Don't come at me when I said " it may be true" read the other comments that are far worse and tell them.
She was acting crazy on wwhl and I'm pretty sure her and Madison were drinking and gossipping in the glam room according to her behavior and looks she gave Madison in the audience. I feel bad for Kathryn but when I think back on her core decisions to get knocked up by Thomas multiple times to stay on a reality show, sure she can have major regrets but once she's in the clear I feel like you see her revert really quickly. Even Whitney the producer called her out on having a child to secure her spot on a reality show.
The elephant in the room; everyone is smoking pot in Colorado ...And? Girl, bye! Pff, im sure that wasn't the "drug" you were on that was questioned in your custody battle. ...Its sad how she portrays her shortcomings onto others and deflects w/her dear in the head lights look and/or answers. I was rooting for her b/c of that/those creeps she's hooked up with in the past and obviously present future....But dang, talk about daddy issues. And for her to be so nonchalant about her being so promiscuous....its honestly very sad. Like your a pretty girl - give yourself some self worth
And let's not forget she has a job. And she's a parent. Austin and Shep are still partying like their college Frat Boys. They have no right to judge her. Shame on them
You are NOT SOBER or in RECOVERY if you're drinking alcohol...and Kathryn knows this. She's legit in getting irritated with her castmates constantly taking her emotional pulse and questioning the status of her sobriety, but a simple, "It's an anonymous program and not your business." would be all she needs to say. Instead she goes savage, which raises suspicion. This is why going public with 12 step/Recovery programs is not a good idea. The general public usually doesn't understand 'HOW it works' (inside joke, lol!) and it puts too much pressure on the person in recovery. It's a marathon, not a sprint. I wish her well, but fear this episode will end badly, because it's a relapse. No two ways about it.
Thank you, this was the most objective reasoning ive read so far. They are waiting on the opportunity to pounce on her, which only pushed her closer to failure.
As long as Katherine is NOT doing drugs, no one should talk about how much she drinks 🍸 ***Katherine is the only one that brings Drama to this show.***
These others didn’t lose custody of their kids. Plus they own it; Kathryn doesn’t. When she responds and attacks like she did to Austin she is deflecting. I was always in her corner but not when she does that crap.
Kathryn said she was on anxiety medication which makes her fidget. And the only reason she took it was to calm her nerves. Which clearly didn’t help because she came of jittery on wwhl
Whether Metul was born in Pakistan or the White House - he will always behave traditionally. Asians don't let go of their cultural ways that easy. Naomi is a dreamer.
If she was serious about sobriety she would know "people, places and things". She chose to be on a show where everyone drinks. They cant stop living their lives to accommodate Kathryn. Her kids should be incentive for her to surround herself with others in sobriety. Part 2 of the reunion Kathryn denies drinking on WWHL but Naomie told her that a close friend saw her drinking, which Kathryn got very defensive about.
Kathryn usually is selective in telling what the court order she is under mandates.She went to rehab and lost custody of her children because of addictions to cocaine,amphetamines,alcohol and weed.She is not supposed to use any of them.But,she does use them and keeps failing drug tests because of it.If your sobriety is so important to you and you want your kids back than stop using.
It’s not illegal to drink alcohol. Kathryn isn’t an alcoholic so if she partakes in drinking as long as she doesn’t break her court order and get a DUI she’s fine.
If I was Kathryn I would cut all ties. Cause they just want her to fail and its sad. Kathryn has come along way from the first season and people only focus on the bad, they don't understand that fact that she was a young mother having two kids back to back, being left alone with her depresseson while her abusive ex treated her like trash. Kathryn is a serviorer let her live.
I think they must be mindful of what they say sense it can be used against her. Also I do think some of the cast are jealous of her due to the attention she receives.
Kathryn did look a little off on the watch what happens live, it was difficult to watch. She even said she was to embarrassed to watch it. I like Kathryn and I hope the best for her.
Austin has no room to talk about anyone or anything!! He is a utter failure as a man!! Kathryn knows what is at stake, the custody of her children. Everyone but Kathryn has gotten drunk on the show, including Cameron!
I definitely think Kathryn is doing something she’s not supposed too. It’s easy to see she had a buzz on Andy’s show. I still don’t understand how people defend her all the time. She still is the same Kathryn since season one to me. I can totally believe she failed a test. I don’t know if she’s on any anxiety meds or just non prescription but she’s taking to much of something. I would know because my mom has always had a pill problem. She’s never done weed or illegal drugs but she likes to overtake prescribed or over the counter. And how Kathryn acted on his show reminds me of how my mom gets.
Every time I've seen Katharine on WWHL she's been off. My opinion i think she's taken a valium or 2. She is definitely lying about the drug thing. Yeah you might not smoke pot but she didn't deny any other drug. I would imagine a girl her age would have a hard time not partying at all
Austin is very immature. He needs to back off Kathryn, they all do. They all drink, most to excess. She's an adult and has to deal with a lunatic she had children with.
