Australia's useless university degrees | Sunrise 

When you search up what you want to do and this comes up

Those hosts are sitting very close together.

This is nothing to do with useless degrees. It's because the retirement ages keep increasing and people aren't leaving the workforce.

My advice is get work experience while at uni cause it helps a lot as a fellow Uni student. Also you need to know someone in that industry to get into that door.

Why don’t they mention the impact of the casualisation of the workforce?

I studied one of those useless degrees 😂 But I have a job now that I love! Uni was worth it for me. I did exchange in Europe for part of my degree and even that experience alone made it worth it! My degree definitely helped me get my job now.

Agree that you should go for a university degree that has a curriculum and subjects that you truly are interested in studying. Everyone judged me for getting a science/arts combined degree. I have ended up more successful then most of the people I studied alongside and am working quite successfully in the pharmaceutical industry using and advancing my skills every day and loving it.

Then what exactly are we supposed to study. Everyone is not made for engineering or medical science.

a lot of engineering degrees can not find jobs in australia, nothing wrong with the unis, simply not enough jobs/investments in australia, a lot of chemical engineer graduates just simply go to US for work

Quite intersting how the hosts are sitting so close to each others. It actually looks great! Also It's good to hear the perspectives and thoughts on Australia's University and labour market.

When everyone's a Superman, no-one will be.

i know people with uni degree but work in take away or grocery store. i guess that is considered as full time employed, a great success to the ministry of education.

no degree is useless it depends how you approach it, and whether you're passionate about it.

Does anyone else find it suss how close the co-hosts are sitting to each other?

73% of graduates finding work is NOT GOOD ENOUGH, given the investment in it. Not everyone who goes to uni is going to be in that 73%.

I'm doing a psych degree and I'm from Malaysia. I know full well what I've put myself through, and I refuse to believe that my hard work is a waste of time. Stem degrees aren't the be all, end all. And a degree will just be a piece of paper unless you supplement it with real life experience. That's how you don't get lost in the rat race

Bachelor of Pharmacy is useless degree…Uber drivers earning way more than pharmacist, very stressful job

A lot of the things they teach in Uni is something you can learn on your own and a lot of the times Universities fail to teach you to use the knowledge you acquired to make money on your own to be financially independent instead they want you to be an employee and be a slave to money

Who knew?

Uni grads are young workers (mostly aged 20-30) so are in the age group where work has generally trended from full-time to part-time for that age group, regardless of education level. So the rate of graduates getting FT employment is probably pretty constant from 2008 to 2018 when compared to the overall rate of FT vs PT employment for that age cohort. ie. It's not the graduates FT employment rate is dropping off per se, but that FT employment rate for 20-30 year olds has dropped off between 2008 and 2018 across the board (regardless of education level). BTW you do tertiary education for reasons other than just getting a FT job - I did my first science degree to be able get a job in a field that I found interesting, but I then did a couple of post grad dips and a couple of masters degrees studying part-time 'for fun' (aka 'lifelong learning') while I was working full-time. You don't do tertiary study purely for the $$$. On a purely financial level you could probably do just a well to do a trade qualification and be earning at a younger age than if you do a uni degree and don't enter the work force for several more years, but whether or not that is the best choice depends on whether you are suited to a trade, an office job, self-employment or whatever.

I did a degree in mathematics and masters in financial mathematics and now work in London on over $300k. What you study makes a big impact, also from a top university with internships. You need work hard to get into a top university and work hard when there.

Any University degree must be included the term engineer. What ever that is.the term engineer ensures long term work. Medical engineer, analictical engineer, structural engineer, bio engineer, think anything put engineer after it will get the job.

Society following this flawed system is obviously looking to go nowhere

Interesting that Law was not in either best or worst group.

I studied one of those useless degrees and am about to start another one!

Uni seems like it's more stressful but also more interesting But the allure of a TAFE diploma is difficult to ignore. TAFE PROS: - You can obtain a Diploma in 1-2 years - It's likely there's a TAFE campus closer to where you live - Right now there are FREE and HALF PRICE courses (including diplomas). You don't have to take on debt ✅ - TAFE degrees have higher employability rates - You are into the workforce 2 years faster than uni students and you also have about 2 years less debt to pay off. A net positive of 4 years ahead of your uni peers. - In an age of rapid technology change (AI) it's possibly better to not waste too much of your time getting a UNI degree that might be in an obsolete field over the next 5-10 years. Sure, bachelor students will look down at you, but if you're a dedicated TAFE student you'll know as much as they do about the subject anyway.

I have a PhD degree in Electrical Engineering from Australian uni in 2020, 3 years on, I never have yet got my full time role. It led me not to recognise my degrees and even led to my relationship fail down before marriage. Well that's the downside from degrees which is contrary to the ongoing propaganda of "you must study to get a job".

By far the most foreign students I know get a degree in accounting, if only because it can get a skilled visa and seemingly all that’s required is to turn up

i am interested in simply being a human being and breathing air.... can't I be paid for that?

The report is by a uni and they're talking to a uni rep - they did market research for their revenue. Not practical industry and business analysis.

I have never seen these presenters in my life and sunrise is in our tv every morning. Does each state have a different presenting cast or something??

loved how the expert guy approached the topic with compassion. but why are the other two sitting so close lmao

The *STRESS* may be a good reason for a lot of people to not continue formal education, keep reading and learning though :)

I'm just not cut out to work for someone else. Starting my own business was the best decision I ever made. You don't need a degree for that.

Ive been graduated since 2018 I didn’t go to uni straight away thought I could get a job in film/tv by doing small jobs and building my way up, not thinking a degree was useful at first but after no luck I’m completing a degree in multimedia, journalism and writing, There’s lots of work in this area in broad casting and reporting, a degree is worth it if your passionate, and in the long run it’s worth it

Rewatching this post pandemic has made me cringe at how close the hosts were sitting together

Lol well there goes my 5 years of study ....

Get a masters degree and a doctorate to qualify to clean toilets and mop floors.

Well this is annoying

Do Australians believe 73% graduates found job require their related degree study?

Substantial number of Pacific Island workers with bachelors and masters degrees buried their certificates and now recruited by Aussie farmers to work in the farm and the meat industry. Aussies should have the balls to do that too.

Science and Maths grads can't find jobs in Oz. I'd say that's more an indictment of the economy than of universities.

What % of that 73% found full time employment in the field they are qualified?

Why are they sitting so close together hahahaha

If you want to study STEM degrees, stick with civil engineering or computer science. Other STEM degrees normally don’t lead to a job in Australia.

Meanwhile most of the world record 98% youth unemployment rate after graduation 🤦🏻‍♂️.

Anyone who is choosing a degree course needs to check what it might qualify them for in industry. Many colleges get their funding based on the number of students that they recruit, as a result they may be tempted to offer degree courses that are interesting and bring in numbers rather than providing a route to good jobs.

The stats would be much worse for anybody without a university degree, so it's all good.

The reason to get a degree is to secure a better job. So follow your passion and hope you will get something at the end is a devastating advice. We must put the prospects of finding a real job as a higher priority, better leave your silly and unpractical passion as hobby.

I must have missed something. Does education only equal vocational training now? Menzies would be turning in his grave.

what about Business (Management and IT) degree?

Pretty simple really, if the jobs aren't available in Australia go overseas for them... which is no doubt what many do!

Social science in human services is as same as social science degree or it is like any social work degree??

Gender studies, furniture design, glass making.

good thing i just wanna learn for the sake of learning :)

I did three degrees at Universities in Adelaide and could not get a permanent job after completion and I was not yet 50. My HECS debt remains unpaid.

Is a postgraduate certificate of IT able to get you a job?

encourage entrepreneurial ende ours, like crafts-people. We need more manufacturers of hand made goods. support local artists instead of international mass produced, throw-away items. Encourage the making of functional art pieces that last for generations, like furniture, pottery, clay and porcelain, even bone carvings using cow bones.

Wanna improve the job market? Please get rid of ALL useless, sub-standard and overly commercialised universities first. Reduce number of uni will reduce a huge number of graduate, and in return better job market. Those who cannot or aren't supposed to get into uni should do vocational training and become self-employed later (and better).

I hope my bachelor of accounting wont be a waste of time. How many jobs insist on certifided workers?

Has Covid got anything to do with the numbers decreasing?

I did Bachelor of Arts which is social science. I now work at Accenture I’d say social science is alright

10% of law graduates get a job in law, and of those half are due to strong connections - e'g. your father is the partner of a law firm and has a colleague from another law firm who will take you on.

Why the push for STEM courses, if they have no clear pathway and low job prospects?

I'm getting a degree just to be proud not job.

also im doing an animation degree and plan to get into online animation job

meanwhile electricians and plumbers are making 150,000 a year and work from 6am to 3 go home and have beers all day in the sun lol

I am surprise law is not on the list.

Good mathematicians do not find a job, they create jobs.

It’s kinda bs right, the “performing well” degrees are just w/e it’s based off your grades whilst studying for your placement, for creative arts etc. it’s based off of you getting out there and networking, Building merit and selling yourself. They’re every different, myself I studied audio engineering and now I live in Miami Florida having a great time, I may not earn 6+ figures but I tell you, I’ve had more life than most. It’s all subject. Do what you want, who cares if it’s not the best thinks to make money! That’s just bs. Ask yourself this. Do you work to live ? Or live to work. What’s your passion. Do what you love. You only need 40k per year to live happy, 75k and your able to live easy. It’s upto you.

Dont do a degree in left handed puppetry

What about Bachelor of policing ?

Algorithms will determine if you got a job or not

Too many useless degrees about whatever-studies.

-"uselessness" is real!- Hmmmm....path of least resistance.

Last hired first fired is a term from the Great Depression in reference to black people (fun fact)

to maximise your chances it's better to follow a degree with a clear vocational pathway. That degree in surfing is probably not going to cut it. Even if you want to be a pro surfer you are better to skip classes and surf. As the report showed even science and maths degrees are not necessarily a good investment despite the frequent claims of skills shortages in this area.

2020 it's coming! Reality matters!!!

That blond host fumbles all her words and she’s still making a living on tv. There is hope for everyone 🤣

The appalling, blubbering, Australian 3-year undergraduate scroll factories? Old news.

I highly recommend you read the book "Curse of the High IQ" by Aaron Clarey.

Are all those 73% who get full time job get it in a field of study? I mean they could get a full time job at McDonalds :DD

Is a bachelor of psychology (honours) at western sydney uni going to get me anywhere?

Those aren’t useless degrees.

Yet another media talking heads bs. If I want to study what my passion is, going to a library is the best choice and it's free.

What about Computer Science degree?

As a one legged, pan sexual, albino midget, I have to say that I am offended by this. I demand gender studies program be free!

I mean with how political some courses are these days you really are better off not going to university

What about Juris Doctor?

It is definitely NOT smart to get into $100,000 of debt for a Masters degree and then find that you cannot get a job anywhere, because everyone else has a degree. All students like to think that paying off this debt will be a breeze. You really have no idea what the real world is like.

don't study environmental engineering.. no one will hire you. I got no job for 2yrs 2 months.

University major sucks.

"Increasingly harder"? Someone never learnt basic grammar...

Is a Bachelor in commerce a degree that is sought after. Is it easy to find a job with this degree?

Is a Bachelor of Arts major in Sociology minor in Politics useless?

Gender Studies, Geography, Fine Arts on top.

what do u think about a business and a psychology degree

Isn’t nursing in medicine????

Yikes shouldn’t have chosen arts then

There is nothing as useless degrees. It's an excuse for laziness and not willing to put yourself out there for volunteering and extra work.