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I haven’t used the self parking feature in a car for years. They used to be slow and unpredictable. It’s was just easier to parallel park yourself. Is that still the case or has the technology improved?
In order to find out I ha e borrowed three cars with the most advanced systems available today. A Nissan Leaf, Tesla Model D and Mercedes EQC. Time to find out who is best - AI or Human!
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@glenreidy 4 года назад

Maybe the Tesla knew there was a door on the side of the building and could also tell that the family inside had just finished their soup and would be going out soon. Make sure the parallel parking with family soup detection is switched off.

@EVOpinion 4 года назад

Glen Reidy I wouldn’t expect anything less from Tesla 😁

@timjefferson1886 4 года назад

No soup for you.

@benclark1423 2 года назад

How much of a menu dive are we talking here?

@leesmith9299 4 года назад

Merc was faster but seemed to have much more room than the Leaf test.

@EVOpinion 4 года назад

Lee Smith it was the same. I think the building in the background made it look different?

@leesmith9299 4 года назад

@@EVOpinion Really? I've paused at 4:33 and 8:45. A bit tricky because the angles are different but it seems to me that at the rear it's roughly the same distance yet at the front the Leaf seems much closer to the car in front. I'll repeat this as a separate comment as I notice replies to replies often don't get seen.

@nissanmicrak10 4 года назад

So you have to alter the test so the Tesla and the Merc have a chance to beat the Leaf. And it worked. The Merc. wins the test, that the Leaf was not allowed to do.

@stevenbollinger9776 4 года назад

I think you may have missed the point of this feature: you're obviously good at parallel parking. Many of us are absolutely bad at it. If you can do it in 30 seconds and the auto park takes a minute and thirty seconds, it may not be much use to you. But if it would take me 4 minutes and I've bumped the car in front and the one in back, and I'm sticking out into the road when I'm done and got one tyre up on the curb -- auto park doing a much better job in a minute and 30 would be simply wonderful, thank you.

@garyrussell8222 4 года назад

I’m a driving instructor and have the 40kw Leaf. Love showing my learners the auto park features they absolutely love it. I tell them it’s mostly novelty value and obviously ensure they learn to park on their own

@truthislam6481 4 года назад

I am a Canadian driving instructor. I start this lesson on a dual lane one-way street by asking which side the student thinks would be the most difficult to learn? They invariably choose the right side, if I were in the UK. So we learn what they think is the easiest first which in fact is the most difficult. When they have mastered the most difficult, incidentally being the way the Merc did it, I then proudly announce the truth about what they've just mastered! I use reference points inside the car that corresponds to the outside surfaces so they end up with a firm understanding of where their wheels are and where the front and back bumper is in relation to objects we wish to avoid hitting. This is a long-winded way of saying that all we need is good instructors!

@stephenshannon3706 4 года назад

In my experience the Nissan Tekna with 360 degree camera system works far better. It is a model for all cars in that respect. Wish mt E-Niro had that facility.

@okkomp 4 года назад

Never knew watching someone park a car could be so entertaining...

@paulhumphries3795 4 года назад

Why didn't you park all 3 Cars up against the building, that wasn't a fair comparison at all, two couldn't see the grass verge...😕

@EVOpinion 4 года назад

Paul Humphries that was the point. If the cheaper Nissan can see it they all should be able to. The contrast between the green and grey was really good and living in the country mimics a lot of the parallel parking we have to do.

@nissanmicrak10 4 года назад

@@EVOpinion And still you say the Merc won?

@TL-xw6fh 4 года назад

It is a very useful for people who cannot parallel park, Just like my wife.

@gregandkaruna6674 4 года назад

Funny my wife can get the system to work on her Qashqai and loves the system, but no way can I get it to auto park and it's way to slow, but the 360 degree camera now that makes life easy while parking!

@JPSG3 4 года назад

The parking position was different between the leaf and the eqc. It should be the same. The leaf parking was harder.

@xboxice2005 9 месяцев назад

Agree the last car had and it easy.

@trainundertaker 4 года назад

What a crap test why didn’t you let the leaf park by the building get an even playing field that merc space looked much bigger

@desiv1170 4 года назад

At 5:57 or so, he says "The Leaf does it fine; I tried that."

@q3y6 4 года назад

Interesting to see how the cars faired, I was surprised the Tesla completely failed but the Merc did quite well. Anyone who struggles to park would probably find the Merc did it quicker than they could and with less stress. Would have been good for you to park the cars then someone who really struggles to park and finally the auto park for the comparison.

@chrisb508 4 года назад

Thanks for doing this video. Auto parking is often talked about, but rarely demonstrated.

@solentbum 4 года назад

My LEAF has the all round camera feature, that is really worthwhile. I can park in less than 30 secs easily. Taking over a minute to auto park in heavy traffic would cause too many problems.

@BaarTube5 4 года назад

Thank you for an interesting video. I would be really interested in seing a comparison of the ”manual parking assists” that EV:s have. With manual assists I mean the cameras and radar displays and whatnots. I’m actually surprised that none of the EV review channels I subscribe have this as a regular feature when testing EV:s. I drive an ICE Nissan Note. It has Nissans 360° camera system (I’m guessing the Leaf has the same or a newer version of the same), so when parallel parking I have a camera view both forward and back. This has made me extremely more comfortable doing parallel parking, and thanks to the cameras I have been able to park in tight spots where I never would have considered parking before. So, when it’s time for me to upgrade to an EV i really hope to get the same kind of manual parking assistance.

@timw1971 4 года назад

Yes, the Leaf has the same (not the in the Acenta, though). Models with the ProPilot Parking (Nissan's auto-parking) have no black diagonals extending to the four corners of the display on the 360° view.

@marklola12 4 года назад

issue again with the Merc is you have to drive really slow for it to work...now if you have cars behind you they have no idea what you are driving so slow for and chances are will be up you`re arse so you can not reverse park

@TomsManShed 4 года назад

great vid as always...can I just ask (even though its nothing to do with vid) is the colour of the Hyundai Kona the 'Tangerine Comet' of the current one on website?...just love that shade of red/orange and would like to make a note for future kit car resprays.

@chrismacdonald.6295 2 года назад

Great video. I’m looking to buy an EV soon and looking at the Mini. I currently have the new Mazda MX5. The parking assist is very clever but just not needed, even more so with a small car. Imagine trying to work out parking assist when you have a queue of cars behind you whilst trying to get into your space. I’d also like to see how it fares in a busy supermarket car park.

@MrGonzonator 4 года назад

You hit the kerb.

@TassieEV 4 года назад

I know if your parallel parking was when I did my examination many years ago that would be a fail on parallel parking from the driving examiner. It is a single movement no shuffling back and forth is permitted in a parallel park. I don't mind parallel parking and same goes with backing a trailer, though I did learn a trick in the military about backing a trailer and you steer from the bottom of the steering wheel rather than the top and then steering is just as though you were going forward. Interesting vid, reminds me to Top Gear episode many years ago now I think and James mentioned have a more French attitude to parking even if it is on a mini-roundabout. ;) Not that I've seen parking in France just going on what the boys said.

@seamusg8911 4 года назад

Uneven playing field. I would say that the Leaf won since it could distinguish a grass verge and seemed to have a less room proportionately to maneuver in. I don't think I would pay out for this feature but it might be useful to know that your car will fit in a gap. Otherwise a good video.

@DavidC641990 3 года назад

Have 2015 Chrysler 200 C parks great when it finds spots between 2 cars. Doesn’t work with lines. I think it’s more a automatic guided parking assist you have to put it in drive when it has to go forward and reverse. It does the turning of wheel automatically which is still nice! It takes less time than that Nissan.

@QuintonDolan 4 года назад

I have used both the Mercedes and Tesla parking assistants. The Mercedes will actually park faster than in this video depending on how brave you are, just give it some throttle, it’s very good. The Tesla you need to drive a lot further past the space than you think to pick it up and it is quite slow to park with no way to speed it up, but it is better now than it was a few updates ago, so it will get better. The Mercedes and the Tesla don’t look for lines on the ground but instead use the ultrasonics to measure the space between the cars, if the space is too big or you drive along too close to the parked cars they don’t always see the space. The Mercedes is a definite 👍, and works so well I would use it every time, the Tesla system on the other hand I am less inclined to use because it still needs fine tuning to improve the speed and reduce the need to drive so far past the space.

@jamespeterson7100 4 года назад

Great video. 🙂👍

@DarcersTech 4 года назад

The reason why Tesla didn’t see the space is it probably because it wasn’t deep enough. Most of these systems try to align the “outer” edge of the car with the parked cars and the Model X is a very wide car so it would stick out too much (or hit the house). I have the system in my i3. It’s actually very fast and also does everything on its own. It does curb the wheels quite often though.

@keithw32123 4 года назад

Our Chevy Volt does parallel and perpendicular parking. I have never timed it. Good idea! I would think the elapsed time might be based on the size of the gap? Sometimes it screws up. Sometimes it doesn't see the gap. When there are two gaps it goes for the one closest. One day it will drive forward into the gap if there is room like a human would? Keep children away from those spinning spokes of the steering wheel.

@yvindVagenJgtnes 4 года назад

Are you sure the model X had auto park enabled in the settings? It also requires the FSD option. I've seen it do much worse spots than this myself. It's slower than doing it manually though of course, these features are not designed for people who already know how to park :)

@grier2593 4 года назад

Would be good to see how well they worked on a steep hill in Sheffield.

@timw1971 4 года назад

On my Leaf, there's a limit to the amount of power the parking will apply, so it's very unlikely to work on a proper Sheffield hill.

@douglasalanthompson 4 года назад

Why didn’t you test the Nissan against the building? Was that just as slow?

@peteglass3496 4 года назад

I hardly use mine on the BMW i3, there is a 'park assist' option [not the i3s] that comes if you want the reversing camera which is a moderately good system. It definitely lines up on the cars in front and behind so best avoided if they are very close to the curb. I find hard to get it to sense a space and start the self-parking off. As I most often park at the end of a parking bay in bit of urban street with lots going on, it isn't appropriate or safe to let it try.

@holdontoyourwig 4 года назад

I had park assist on my VW Tiguan. It steered the car for you but i had to use the foot pedals to control the speed and breaks. If the car couldn't get into the space in one go i had to put the car into drive ( dsg version ) and go forward. It would steer the car until it was happy that the next go would get it into the space. I was very excited when i first got the car but to be honest i used the function about 10 times in 4 years. I would rather find a spot away from other cars and park easily on my own.

@watcher24601 4 года назад

Those spaces were huge, compared to the car size, if it can't do that then zero hope for real spaces on a standard residential street. I had a 2007 prius with self parking that I never used. Always quicker to park it than to set up the system, I had one demo going into a bay that failed due to not being on perfectly level ground. It's like parking sensors that become a continuous tone at 50cm to say stop, which is when they should only start to make a noise. Just a gimmick to charge a higher price until they can actually be used.

@Returntotheworld 4 года назад

I think the thing is this technology is not for you. It for the people you see that have ‘parallel parked’ but their car is 2 foot from the kerb and sticking out into draft or jutting out at angle and just left like that for whatever reasons. For fair comparison did you time yourself getting into the space the last two cars tried? Would have been a fairer comparison.

@Bobbleoff 4 года назад

I had to rescue a woman who got stuck trying to use auto park. It was on a narrow road where you can't fully swing out the front end. her car was going back and forward for agers and ended up at 90° blocking the road. Poor woman was freaking out having a panic attack. I jumped in got her unstuck and parked in under 15 second

@CarolSteele 4 года назад

By heck, you could reverse a lorry into that amount of space that you left in front of the building LOL

@timw1971 4 года назад

I bought auto-park with my Leaf in 2018. Back then, it was only about £430 extra (and looked really cool), so it wasn't exactly an extravagance. It's a great party-piece, but I just don't use it. You're right about it being slower than just doing it yourself and it's fiddly to start. It's also not that great at finding a space, though your vid shows it's better than the competition. Nissan have bumped the price of the option to £1090, on top of the car's base price being about £3700 higher than when I signed in Feb 2018. (Disclosure: government incentive grant was £1000 more back then.)

@ibrahimseck8520 4 года назад

Wow those system are a a technological feat, but are really slow, didn't expect them to be that slow !

@dennislyon5412 4 года назад

Ryan - if you lived in a town where your only option (or perhaps a frequent one) is to parallel park, you learn the method and get it done, as you have demonstrated with the Leaf. But these days, there’s so many “parking lot” or “car park” opportunities to where you don’t need that tool or skill, that most people wouldn’t pay for it unless it’s already on a car they are interested in buying. Hmm, this is a way for car dealers to make some extra cash, by spec’ing this feature on the cars they order to sell on their lots. I must admit that me and the wife bought a car - as is - with this feature, since the rest of the package was exactly as we wanted in the car, but we’ve probably used the feature - other than playing around - two times in 5.5 years. I also have a car with 360 camera, and I haven’t tried it yet, but I bet the cameras will help much better, and are much more useful otherwise. I have a learning driver in my household. Time to play around with parking today?

@leesmith9299 4 года назад

I've paused at 4:33 and 8:45. A bit tricky because the angles are different but it seems to me that at the rear it's roughly the same distance yet at the front the Leaf seems much closer to the car in front. I'll repeat this as a separate comment as I notice replies to replies often don't get seen.

@dcvariousvids8082 4 года назад

Maybe it’s just me but I actively like being in control of a machine. That includes being able to parallel park in small spaces. If there’s a choice between a big space and a small space, I’ll often as not choose the smaller one, so people with a larger vehicle can still park. But I regularly see drivers who fail to park in spaces, that are big enough to park a bus. Maybe for those people, having a car that can park itself could be handy. But if they can’t get in without assistance, what happens when they need to pull-out? As to the cars tested. Excellent examples of tech, that reads better on paper, than any of them can accomplish in real life.

@gregandkaruna6674 4 года назад

Hate auto park on my wife Nissan Qashqai, it's so frustrating to get it to work and like you have shown very slow, my wife loves the feature, but the 360 degree camera that is well worth the money, no expensive alloy wheel damage on curbs using that type of camera!

@limbsflailing4479 4 года назад

Does this come in the USA leafs which have propilot assist?

@miickyp 4 года назад

Is the Model X a longer car? I wonder if it just needed a bigger space then it would give you the option, just an idea, they are massive lol!

@RamonSmits 4 года назад

The gap for the Mercedes would fit a truck!!! You should have made that fair with the gap much smaller.

@RWBHere 4 года назад

How long would the Leaf take to auto park in front of those buildings? The test was not guaranteed to be fair, if it had to park in a different situation to the Mercedes. Thanks Ryan.

@sbomorse 2 года назад

You could get a bus in that space 😂

@pavelsunny1 4 года назад

My Tesla Model X sees the parking space 1000 of 1000 times! Always! You are not doing it correctly. You must stop the car little bit in front, 2 meters after the rear of the Kona.

@carolinebois5777 4 года назад

Surely parallel parking is taught to everyone learning to drive? If you can't, should you be on the road?

@paulmoy9736 4 года назад

Parallel parking is part of the driving test......if you can't parallel park you shouldn't be driving.

@michaelgoode9555 4 года назад

Would be interesting to see how the Leaf performed in the larger gap that the EQC parked in.

@marklola12 4 года назад

It depends on the car to be honest, I literally see zero point in the cars that have the feature but you still have to change the gears or press the pedals also some cars I have seen do not detect the space till ur pretty far past it which causes issues if you have cars behind you and they happen too stop too close to you`re car and the space haha and yeh….allot of the cars take way too long to actually get going the bmw i3 seems to not be as bad

@xezzee Год назад

Can you flip the parking to other side? First driving in other country England vs Finland so it is Left or Right side you can't park in other countries? Second how about parking hall you see spot on the "other side" (so right side on video) can you only park on one side? To me it is on my right to you it is one your left? Third example is that if there is one way road you can park on both sides 🙃 but only on one side using self paking? Or can you come how chance it? yet to find it and yet to read manual but I'm 75% sure I can't :< sad

@grahamsmith5491 4 года назад

A friend who has a ford with auto park complained that on narrow roads hit the kerb on the opposite side of the road with the front wheel.

@jonathanmeazza427 4 года назад

I'm with you Ryan, I'd rather just do it myself. Too much automation can be tedious.

@Soordhin 4 года назад

Would i spend extra money on that feature? Absolutely not, rather get a nice 360° HD camera system that is nowadays pretty much standard. That said, the parking feature is often bundled up with other stuff that is actually useful, so i wouldn't go out of my way to avoid it.

@eastcorkcheeses6448 4 года назад

My mam has it on her skoda (not electric obviously). I'm the only who's ever tried it, sometimes it can find the space, sometimes it doesn't, but you wouldn't trust it and then your faffing with buttons, easier to just park

@computerbob06 4 года назад

Someone's channel is doing rather well! I didn't see the house, but from the massive garden wall, the barn and the tennis court, it must be a mansion!

@usaverageguy 4 года назад

I like to drive. I do not want any self driving features other than cruise control without that damn annoying self brake.

@nigelweir3852 4 года назад

Hands down winner for me is you

@DopeyDalek 4 года назад

I know a few people who absolutely cannot parallel park. I guess this would be useful for them....

@ffotograffydd 7 месяцев назад

I’ve seen other videos with the Nissan system that were much quicker.

@salipander6570 4 года назад

That's not tight. Tight is about 1 foot on each side. Plus a high curb instead of grass, so it is blocked more quickly. Please repeat the test (I can't since I don't have the cars...;-) And, well finding a space is not what this is meant for. It is meant to park into the space you spotted. The reality is that it is the only spot that is available, so go and (let it) park. No choice.

@bordersw1239 4 года назад

Your meant to just drive straight in , curb the front wheel and go back and forth until it’s roughly at the right angle - at least that’s what the wife told me. Anyone want to buy some very scuffed alloys?

@mikek2218 4 года назад

Take 15 minutes to learn how to properly parallel park, and you have a skill that will serve you for the rest of your life... no assistance from the car required.

@jamespeterson7100 4 года назад

I hate to parallel park. So if I could find one that does as well as the Mercedes I would get it. 👍

@marklola12 4 года назад

should have re-done the leaf and see if it worked better with a definite line like the others because the leaf was shockingly bad

@forrestolney6836 4 года назад

Parallel universe hahaha

@nigelweir3852 4 года назад

For a car company that says its cars will be able to drive themselves and expect people to pay up in advance for it makes me think that self driving will be years away . The parking demo shows it’s just a con , it appears more time consuming and worse than doing it yourself . Should be free until it’s better

@ateeqn1985 4 года назад

Sorry, but a serious test would be up against a real curb an real road. I would expect some improvement

@tiziocaio4561 4 года назад

Totally useless feature, would have been interesting to time the Leaf on the second car arrangement you did. If somebody needs an autopark in order to park, then he/she shouldn’t have a driving license

@ateeqn1985 4 года назад

.. That is not tight.. 🙄

@markcornwall8132 4 года назад

To see how difficult cars find it to park themselves just reinforces it. Fully autonomous cars are in the distant future.

@nigelweir3852 4 года назад

Drivers who can’t park should learn or not drive

@SatoriHaddad 11 месяцев назад

All that money for a Tesla and it doesn't even work. I'm speechless.

@davidpearn5925 4 года назад

Autonomy in the UK? Forget it IMO.

@kuldippanesar590 4 года назад

Kinda pointless bottom line it's down to instruction and how people are taught too many instructors use markers in cars....a person's awareness of assessing size hand and eye coordination is important but there's also the human error factor is always there and we can all make mistakes.

@glideman 4 года назад

If you can’t park you shouldn’t be on the road

@odinterimon 3 года назад

" Auto Parking Is there any point? " Well I would say with you testing, no point at all ! If I was a gambling man I would say that was fixed in Human favor & bet on Humans, with a side bet on Merc 🤦‍♂️ I know these vids take a lot of effort & time to edit but even the description txt has issues & that was a model X you were testing not a Model D, how did that typo sneak past ? I liked a lot of your vids that I've watched recently but this is NOT one of your better efforts, thumbs down from me. It felt like you didn't know what you were doing, which is a bit unfair for the 3 cars on test as you appeared not to know how they worked even. Im surprised "Just Ev's " didn't issue a disclaimer 😁