Automatic Movement Accuracy Showdown! | Comparing Cheap Chinese & Japanese Movements with a Swiss

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Hey guys, welcome back and May the Schwartz Be With You! In today's video, I wanted to show you the accuracy of all the automatic watches that I currently have in my collection. All but one are Swiss Made so you'll get to see how these cheaper Chinese and Japanese watch movements compare.
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@possumsam2189 4 года назад

It is hard to beat a good-looking inexpensive accurate watch that you could daily rather than a safe queen that costs a bomb to service/repair/replace waiting for that 'special occasion'. Only thing better would be a box full of them

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Well said, friend! I like options, so just one watch isn't going to work for me, regardless of price. :)

@riseuplight 3 года назад

I agree I can’t stand safe queens

@ShortLightHandsome 3 года назад

Great video Dave. I'm a mechanical engineer and love seeing a quantitative comparison like this. Love your collection. I am never going to spend more than a couple hundred bucks on a watch and $50 is more my comfortable price range. So your channel is perfect for me. I think you have a beautiful watch collection and great taste.

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Thanks so much! I definitely want to put my focus on watches that I would consider buying and owning for myself or if they peak my interest. I know some but anything and everything to review so I appreciate that my channel more lines with your interests too! Many more to come and thanks for the support! 😎🍻👍

@guystuff_tv 2 года назад

Lol the same watch skit was a good one. Sounds like my type of problems 🤣👍🏾

@DavidSchwartzjr 2 года назад

Lol I completely forgot I did that on this video! 😂 Glad you enjoyed it, man! 😎🍻👍

@SantiagoAyoso 3 года назад

Nice collection and video. My opinion you can find really nice chinese watches. I collect divers and brands like Pagani, Addiesdive, Loreo, etc....are just great watches. I used them for long time and even go to swim with them and still work great. I recommend them 100%

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Nice! Yeah there’s definitely something to be said for those brands and more. I’ve learned that they are great watches and will hold up just as well if not better than other watches on the same price range.

@watchalot919 4 года назад

The amplitude needs to be at leat 275 before you put it on the timegrapher. You then need to leave it for a few minutes. You also need to set the lift angle correctly on the timegrapher. I regulate all my watches to within +/-10 SPD and it takes 5 minutes.

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Simon Hornby wow I didn’t know any of that lol. I will need to re-do this video with those parameters being met first. Thanks for letting me know, Simon! 😎🍻👍

@watchalot919 4 года назад

@@DavidSchwartzjr what do they say about sarcasm?

@danielduenas924 2 года назад

How do you know which lift angle is the correct one for a movement?

@watchalot919 2 года назад

@@danielduenas924 Just google it. The correct lift angle only effects the amplitude, NOT the accuracy

@klowen7778 2 года назад

Atomic Clock Time Synchronization...

@GunCollector007 3 года назад

lol. Love your sense of humor. Enjoy all your watches

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Heeeeey love that screen name haha, and thanks so much! I’m glad you enjoyed the vid! 😎🍻👍

@herbratamoeljo5076 3 года назад

Mine is a cheap Automatic from China, Forsining for only 35 U$ (bought last year). It similar to Patek Phillipe Chronograph Geneve with date, day, month and 24 hour display. I had manually tuned it with handphone stopwatch for 3 days and now, wolaaa .....: The accuracy is pretty good, +15 sec/day in Horizontal and -10 in Vertical position. I wind it up 10 to 11 turns every 6AM and 6PM a day. Combine that position and wearing it for work, it can achieve_, +/- 5 sec a day,. After a month of using, my watch still exactly the same hour and minute with world clock reference.

@jamesrlewin 3 года назад

Extremely beautiful and diverse watch collection, very nice!

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Thanks Oscar! It has changed quite a bit from the time this video was shot but I feel like its always growing and changing as I really get a feel for what I enjoy wearing and collecting. Been a lot of fun so far, I appreciate you commenting and I'm glad you enjoyed the vid! 😎🍻👍

@simonthomas5113 3 года назад

Really good to see the different results for the different models and price brackets. I'm currently getting +3.5 seconds per day with a Seiko 4R39A on a watch that looks great and only cost $345, so I'll be holding back on premium brands for now and I don't consider it to be a "shitter"!

@GottiRC 4 года назад

Shitter watches are people that watch LUXYARCHIE channel, a very annoying english men that bashes watches and calls them shitter watches lol. but dude, to each their own, you got a nice collection going on.

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Brian J. Tromp lol I don’t think I’ve ever made it through one of that guys videos in full 😂. thanks bro! 😎👍

@21upbowls 4 года назад

Correction we wouldnt have him in England, he is an Aussie

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

21upbowls dang you’re right! He is from Australia lol I didn’t even catch that at first. Apologies! 😎👍

@neilpiper9889 4 года назад

You could have named all the movements with a little bit of research. Like the Loreo for instance which is a Seagull st1612.

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Fair point, I should definitely do an update video explaining the movements in each, at least for the ones I can confirm. I have a couple more new automatics so that’s something I’ll be adding on my list of future vids for sure! Thanks for the suggestion man! 😎👍👍

@AvgJoeWatchReviews 4 года назад

Those homages !🤩 The accuracy is unbelievable!

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

I know right!? Wasn't expecting to see one let alone multiple have better accuracy than my swiss made modified Sellita movement in the FC. Crazy!

@AvgJoeWatchReviews 4 года назад

David Schwartz I’m impressed. In my experience, cost doesn’t guarantee accuracy. Cost is complicated in the watch world. Are you paying for their marketing!? Are you paying for details under a case back you’ll never see?

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Avg. Joe Watch Reviews so true man. And what they don’t tell everyone is after they finally get the grail watch, for most, the excitement and desire will simply move to a new watch. I already know I can’t just own one lol.

@johnchan4840 11 месяцев назад

Good collection... Any homage watch collectors should learn how to regulate an automatic watch and it is quite simple with the right tools. I am able to regulate all my watches to + - 2 sec a day. Low entry deluxe watches like Oris and Tissot are already factory regulated down to 2 to 3 sec a week...

@elmoelms2743 4 года назад

Hi Dave interesting review , it goes to show that some of the cheap homage watches can give you value for your money. The other thing I would like to say is that when people say about getting rid of all your homage watches and purchase one none homage I think what they are really saying is don’t buy Chinese. But I no a lot of people out there that enjoy watch collecting but can’t always afford the so called more expensive Swiss or Japanese watches. So keep doing what your doing because you can’t please everyone

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Thanks Elmo! Yeah, I think its great for people to save up and get the watches that they love, but if they can't, there are other options out there, and decent at that, to consider. I appreciate the kind words and support! ^_^ Dave

@finditfixitmechanics 4 года назад

Hi David, I actually like your collection and you have valid points. Ill keep watching as long as you keep sharing your opinion on watches, its help me with my choices. Thanks for the honest reviews.

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

D Lash I’m really happy to read that! And I’ll keep putting out honest content for you and other viewers! Thanks for the kind words 😎👍

@rilum97 4 года назад

Hey guy, welcome back!

@BoogurTWang 4 года назад

There is a lot of internet oncern for acvcuracy - I ain;t never had a problem that required + - 10 seconds accuracy.

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Boogur T. Wang lol that’s a good point! Only time I can think of when my watch needed to be accurate to the second was for clocking out of a shitty job! 😂👍

@andrewallen9993 11 месяцев назад

If you regulate them yourself Vostok make an extremely accurate homage to their 1967 model. Accurate down to the case, bracelet and waterproof to a depth of 200 metres.

@bc454irocz89 2 года назад

Just recently got into watches, now I'm not allowed to say anything about all my gf's shoes 😅

@DavidSchwartzjr 2 года назад

Haha, yup I can relate 💯 with you! Welcome to the new hobby and thanks for checking out my channel! 😎🙌

@GottiRC 4 года назад

lol that groundhog loop with the Federique

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Brian J. Tromp 😂 Pretty much how it would be with only one watch!

@jimwolters5209 4 года назад

Hi David, want to let you know that I some months ago I bought a Frederique Constant (fc303b6b6), your review helped me a lot. Keep up the good work, really interesting to see you showing the ultimate value for money. Greetings from the Netherlands, Jim

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Jim Wolters That is so great to hear, Jim! I’m glad my review helped and I know you are enjoying the FC your bought! Congrats man and thanks for the support and kind words! 😎👍 Dave

@cesariocantu9703 4 года назад

Say David, thank for the review.. i recently bought the blue rocos from Amazon.. and i too was impressed with the. Accuracy of this watch.. i wore it all week and it keep keep excellent time . It didn't loose or gain 1 second.. it is up there with my swiss collection Rolex, omega, rado, gevril, eberhard, oris, alpina and movado..

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Cesario Cantu Thanks for your comment, Cesario! That has a lot of weight to it being that it rivals those Swiss luxury brands you have. Such a great value and great looking watch too. 😎👍. I appreciate you taking the time to let me know! Dave

@AvgJoeWatchReviews 4 года назад

As a watch collector, I’d rather have more affordable watches than 1 grail. I’ve always liked the look of Frederique Constantin. I like the little device you have. I need one. Good video brother. I learned something new and was entertained.

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Thanks bro! Yeah, the timegraph, they are a little expensive for what it is, but for owning multiple automatics, it will come in handy many times! I appreciate you watching and commenting man!

@goodlifebdg 4 года назад

Is that marriage between frederique constant and vacheron constantin 😬

@goodlifebdg 4 года назад

David Schwartz roughly how much is timegrapher bro ?

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Lol it’s gonna be a VC case on a FC bracelet 😋

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Handy Ndy They can range between $165-$250 😞 if you can find one gently used for less I would snag it.

@raymondhouser5174 4 года назад

As always, buy what you like, be it one watch or 50. It's what makes you happy.

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Raymond Houser couldn’t agree more! 😎👍

@kennkingg 2 года назад

I love all my Chinese watches

@DavidSchwartzjr 2 года назад

I’ve been really impressed by some of mine and the value cannot be disputed imho. Thanks for checking out this vid, Kenneth. Maybe I’ll do another update down the road! 😎🍻👍

@juice01 4 года назад

I thought you were gonna change the strap each time. Lol

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

juice01 lmao! I should have! New strap, new watch! 😂

@pedazodeboludo 10 дней назад

I just built a watch with a 6497 clone ($36) and it loses less than 1 s/d beating my IWC 😅. Of course time will tell if it can keep the same precision for 15 years like the IWC 😊.

@xxraverxxonxtacy 4 года назад

Don't listen to the snobs, not everyone can be London Watch Collector.

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Hunter Bautista Thanks man, that’s true. I figure most of the luxury watch channels out there happen to also be dealers or grey market salesmen so it makes sense they have such a variety of luxury watches. Not many average people out there with cases of $10k+ watches just laying around.

@RossWristWatchLove 4 года назад

Great video bro thanks for the info!

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Ross Wrist Watch Love Thanks P! I appreciate you checking it out! 😎👍

@steveblackbird 2 года назад

Nice looking collection!! I have a few gens I picked up cheap from people that didn't want to pay for servicing and worked on them myself. Plus have a few replicas that I really enjoy too. asian 21j automatics are a fav as well as the asian 7750 movements. Need a display box like yours as mine isn't big enough for all of mine. Thanks for sharing!

@claudiugeorge5445 3 года назад

Hello,i find a pagani design submariner wich have this movement, miyota 8215, this watch has had the seiko nh35 but for a while pagani switch to this miyota...anyway, it is a good and trust movement? It is reliable,or the seiko nh35 is better and reliable than miyota?

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

They do both have pros and cons to them, the miyota movement is a fine movement, but the gripes with it tend to be the noisy rotor and the lack of seconds hand hacking. The NH35 is more robust and reliable (in my opinion) but the acceptable specs in terms of accuracy on it can range pretty wide from something like -20 to +40s/day. I do have to say I have not had any issues with miyota or seiko movements. I have had issues with seagul movements. Hope that helps!

@brunosuperman Год назад

They all need to be serviced!

@cv600rr 2 года назад

There's a little more to the timegrapher readings. Cheaper movements will have more positional variance. This means your readings will change when the watch is in a different position. A couple of your watches had very low amplitude readings. This either means you didn't fully wind the spring, or something is wrong inside the movement. A couple of them also had a high beat error. Ideally, the beat error should be below 0.5.

@DavidSchwartzjr 2 года назад

Yup! Spot on, I’ve since this video learned all about what you have mentioned and this will definitely be helpful to new timegraph users/owners. I will need to do an update video too showing these watches that I’ve kept from this collection in different positions and after being fully would and on the timegraph for a few mins to see a more accurate average between all positions. Thanks for the comment! 😎👍

@gabrielarce5532 3 года назад

great video. question about the Gute/jaragar. is that the original strap or after market? i’m looking for that one and the ones i see have a larger gap from the end of the strap to the case. thanks !!

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Hello Gabriel! Sorry for the late reply message, but the strap is actually an aftermarket one which I had picked up from Amazon here: amzn.to/368CiuE I had gone with the 24.5mm but I ended up having to shave the sides a bit so I should have ordered the 23mm from the start. You can see the full strap upgrade video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pIxfI2f_G-c.html

@nickbutter9270 2 года назад

Own one watch... A real enthusiast knows the difference between watches and the purpose of different watches and the different types of venues that each watch fits in. Business Watches, Casual watches, Performance Watches to Dive watches. One watch really dont fit all occasions. And there are certain type of watches to wear during different types of weather and time of day. One watch, No... its best to have a collection. It can be 5 dollars to a million watch, what ever you like for your budget.

@DavidSchwartzjr 2 года назад

I have definitely changed in my collecting philosophy since this video was made. My appreciation for variety has grown and I too see the appeal with having various watches of all types in a collection. I also can see why some choose just 1 piece, but to each their own. 😎👍

@nickbutter9270 2 года назад

@@DavidSchwartzjr yep ... Agreed on this end

@SuperFlatrock 2 года назад

Did you regulate the watches for optimal accuracy? The NH35 movement is capable of +-15 seconds or better. I have a 1965 Rolex Oyster that gets no better than 10-15 seconds a day. My Chinese field watch with a generic NH38 movement is about as good. In fact, since I can easily service/replace the NH38 movement myself, it is much better than any Rolex.

@alexvikendi1768 3 года назад

Thanks for the measurements ✌️ I have the AP like watch (the skeleton one with the Hangzhou 7500 ), this one is really accurate for a high beat cheap movement, I got pretty same measurements as you (+5s/d -2/d depending on the position) On the other end I have a Hangzhou micro-rotor watch from a Chinese brand too (I think it's the 5000a) it run decently on a timegrapher (like +15/25s a day) but since there is no manual winding not so much in real life if you don't wear it enough on your wrist, it's still very good but not Swiss-like.

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Hi Alex! Thanks for your comment and for sharing your experiences. I recently had come across some brands with modified Hangzhou movements and I've really been impressed with them. Of all the watches I've purchased, all of the movements are still working fine and luckily none have experienced any magnetization or large shock absorption that has affected their movements. I'll keep doing some research on them. I'm familiar with that micro-rotor one you've referenced also, really cool to see the Chinese offer that type of movement at such affordable pricing. Cheers! 😎🍻👍

@rancosteel 2 года назад

The best thing about replica homage watches is that you don’t have to get killed over a Rolex etc..

@davidcrandall4958 11 месяцев назад

Thugs will kill you for a replica watch,They wouldn't Know the Difference

@davidcrandall4958 11 месяцев назад

Thugs will kill you for a replica watch,they can't tell the Difference!

@rangersmith4652 2 года назад

Part of the fun and satisfaction of wearing a watch is periodically adjusting it via a time beacon; it's an integral part of wearing a watch. This test is rather unscientific because the watches are not running their best; if you run an accuracy check on a watch that's barely wound or at the wrong lift angle, you're going to get bogus readings. Every watch enthusiast knows that a $5 Walmart quartz child's watch runs at about +/- 5 seconds per month, and your smart watch/phone is off by exactly the same amount as the international time beacon or server to which it links. They also know that no mechanical watch on the planet consistently achieves that kind of accuracy. Spending thousands on a Swiss mechanical because they're more accurate is like buying a Bentley because it has more leather.

@DavidSchwartzjr 2 года назад

I can definitely understand where you're coming from, Ranger! Quartz definitely is the way to go in terms of the NEED for a watch to tell the time. I did run this test a long time ago, when I had not known as much as I do now (still learning of course) so I should have made sure the watches were fully wound and then take the average between positions to get a bit more realistic idea of how accurate they can be. Love the Bentley with more leather analogy too ha. Cheers! 😎🍻👍

@nevillegrimshaw7758 4 года назад

Hi David, if I were you I’d take the case backs off and regulate some of them, you will be astonished with a little patience how accurate you can get them. Great review 👍🇬🇧

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

neville grimshaw Thanks! I have seen that being done to some automatics, I would definitely need some loupes and a steady hand lol. I would be interested to try it on these that have big variations. Would be a good video to do for viewers too. 😎👍

@ginanjartamimy1046 4 года назад

Nice Topix David. I Will share on my Facebook. Don't stop make a horology story. Go forward

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Much appreciated! I hope others enjoy the vid and thanks for the share! :) Dave

@jone.6384 4 года назад

Great video

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Thanks Jon! Glad you enjoyed it! :) Dave

@petem.3719 10 месяцев назад

You must have a magnetic watch box. I have 12 unregulated homages and only one has numbers even close to the horribleness I'm seeing here. Most are around 5_8 s/d +/- and a couple stay within 2 sd.

@CaptainSpud88 Год назад

I have plenty of few hundred dollar watches that I enjoy .. if they make you happy who cares what someone else thinks

@michaeldempsey5676 2 года назад

Always makes me laugh when people say a cheaper watch is crap, a cheap quartz watch is far more accurate than any expensive mechanical and fulfils it’s job better as a timepiece, now if your talking a jewellery piece then that’s a different matter.

@NoName-zi9qs 2 года назад

Let's be honest. If you sold all of those, you'd be able to buy a $500 watch.

@DavidSchwartzjr 2 года назад

True, this was early in my collecting. If you look at my latest SOTC vids you’ll see I own many multi-thousand dollar quality pieces. A lot has been learned and it has been a fun journey for sure! 😎👍

@LivePastHealthy 4 года назад

Great video, I would rather have a a ton of great looking watch thats a great value. I can pair them with more of my outfits, and if I do end up smashing it up against something its not the end of the world. Im not a watch snob, i just love watches.

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

psychout same here man! I like options and some of these can really be a great overall value. Thanks for checking out the vid! 😎🍻👍

@hcho8164 Год назад

Here is an idea to run an interesting channel with one watch. You can claim your watch enables you to time travel. And you can give predictions of the future, like America's going to go bankrupt from buying too many watches and not paying for the credit card bill, for instance.

@wademullis7377 3 года назад

Nice collection

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Thank you, Wade! It's changing all the time but I am happy to see that others enjoy checking out these watches too! 😎🍻👍

@VzDkz 4 года назад

Hey. How much is your timegrapher

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Currently, they are going for about $169 on Amazon amzn.to/3kMdcHo Sometimes if you wait on them a bit you can snag one used for a lot less. Hope that helps out! 😎👍 Dave

@syncro16se 4 года назад

My Pagani Design watches with Seiko NH35A movements both run at

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

So glad to hear that you're getting such great accuracy with your PD watches! Satisfying indeed! I do wish these companies would charge just a tad more for some legit superluminova or equivalent but seems like its a hit or miss depending on the brand. Grats on the timegraph machine, I use mine all the time with my automatics! Thanks for commenting and sharing. Cheers man! 🍻 Dave

@darylcav6285 3 года назад

I wish mine was doing that well -45sec/day, but I now have an excuse to play with it every couple of days

@vicever08 3 года назад

Isn't wearing one watch like wearing one cloth/dress/suit every day? I think it is boring.

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

I can definitely understand! I swap watches out sometimes multiple times a day, much more than I change clothes haha! Cheers Sheng! 😎🍻👍

@ncadvr 3 года назад

Lolol love it.

@filsdedieu100 3 года назад

Merci :-)

@GabrielSkolderblad 3 года назад

Sound like Dave Grohl or John Petrucci :P

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Lol, I'm okay with this! Thanks for the comment, Oskar, made me chuckle 😎🍻👍

@Bob.martens 3 года назад

Wind the watch FULLY, leave it for AT LEAST ten minutes, THEN place it on a timegrapher.

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Thanks Bob! I'm gonna give that a try on them and see how the results end up. I'll have to do an update video too since I've acquired more automatics from the time this video was filmed and uploaded. 😎🍻👍

@462904 3 года назад

Great collection there boss looks good

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Thank you sir! 😎🍻👍 It has changed quite a bit already but I'll do another state of the collection by the end of the year with some accuracy updates!

@Nothingtoya 3 года назад

Wow, some of those watches need a service.

@joanc120 3 года назад

All those with amplitudes below 260 and/ or beat error above 0.4 ms are to be thrown away, man. For the rest, just regulate them.

@owenlaprath4135 8 месяцев назад

If I like a watch, I do not care who made it, or how cheap it was! To all the nay-sayers: The Swiss are possibly the nation that is best at cheating and con-tricks in the world! They shut out competition with their chronometer certificates, but many of their watches are Swiss on paper only, with all sorts of loopholes in their definition of what makes a Swiss watch. I would rather have an honest Chinese watch, than paying a new car's worth money for a Swiss time piece.

@spiros2310 3 года назад

Can we watch you smash all these

@AvgJoeWatchReviews 3 года назад

Smash that SUBSCRIBE button! 💥

@davidcrandall4958 11 месяцев назад

These have no resale value! Theyre worthless at resale! If you love them keep them!

@Si-Toecutter 3 года назад

No you can't buy a 10k watch

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Lol guess not...🤣

@riseuplight 4 года назад

Dude you just get anything huh

@DavidSchwartzjr 4 года назад

Lol, yeah, just started back in October last year so I'm trying different things and discovering what I do and don't like. 😎🍻👍 Dave

@riseuplight 3 года назад

@@DavidSchwartzjr did you get a lot during this whole lockdown period?

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

@@riseuplight yes, I put a lot of my budget that would have gone into other hobbies or events towards my watch collecting 😬. It's been a heck of a ride so far though!

@silverghost4206 2 года назад

90 percent of these youtube watch "experts" are full of shit. An only make videos on watches that cost 5,000 dollars an up. They make money off everything they do an the lies they do. But anyways, nice video. One day you might get tired of owning that many watches an just want 1 or 2 watches. Me personally 2 or maybe 3 watches at most for my desires. I own 2 watches. They are japanese. Both of them are orient stars. One dress watch an one diver. My advice sell them all. An get your self a good quality watch that fits your comfort on price stage.

@brunosuperman Год назад

Hueahueahueahueahuea! People are annoying!

@gregr1154 3 года назад

All but one are Swiss Made.... eh, i don't think you know what "all but one" actually means

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Lol, yeah I think I misspoke, I meant to say out of all, only one is Swiss made (at the time this would have been the Frederique Constant). My collection has changed a lot since that old video though. I do appreciate the chuckle from the comment though, Greg. Cheers! 😎🍻👍

@gregr1154 3 года назад

@@DavidSchwartzjr yeah, i like digging up graves :p so, how about long-term repeatability rather than one-time accuracy? which ones tend to jump all over the place and which ones are consistently fast/slow? that would be way more interesting - it's easy enough to regulate up or down if it's stable.

@emilk157 3 года назад

Look I have nothing against the purchases you made and if you do enjoy those watches then there is no problem with what kind of collection you have. Who am I to judge you. The only thing that is apparent with Chinese watches is that most of the time they are lower grade. Yes they have copied the Swiss watchmaking and half a century of work and can have very accurate watches. Heck if you care about accurate watches get a Quartz movement. Its not about that. (watches like that are impossible to service) those brands most probably will disappear in a couple years and it will be difficult to impossible for you to service them (outrunning the cost of the actual watch).Its about serviceability, brand heritage, value for money and most of all QUALITY. You won't get good quality on some of those watches because the lack of care and attention put into the watches is apparent. So this is a nice video but it really doesn't tell you anything about why not to buy or buy Chinese watches.

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Hi Emil, thanks for the comment. So I definitely understand where you’re coming from. I wouldn’t say this video was to try and convince anyone why they should or shouldn’t buy a watch with a cheap Chinese or Japanese movement, but really just to compare them in my collection and see what type of accuracy they offered. I would say this though, all of the ones I’ve kept still work, have not had any issues, and they can definitely be serviced for a very low price. Most watchmakers would be familiar with a Seiko NH35/35 movements, Miyota movements, and seagull movements that if they could not service, I can buy online for very cheap to have installed. I have learned from owning many watches that the Sellita and ETA movements are definitely better to have, but for these cheaper Chinese and Japanese movements, they work just fine and give the charm of an automatic movement to those who may not be able or willing to spend a lot of money on a watch. Im working towards obtaining my Tudor BlackBay 41 which has a modified Sellita instead of in house movement because I want something that I can have serviced by most watchmakers instead of having to send it to Tudor or Rolex. 😎👍

@electronicsandprogramming9794 3 года назад

Sell them and get real watches.

@DavidSchwartzjr 3 года назад

Drop me a few recommendations on what I should get. I've been slowly selling off much of my collection as I get ready to buy my Tudor BB 41.

@electronicsandprogramming9794 3 года назад

@@DavidSchwartzjr You can get a seiko 5 srpe51k1. Very nice watch for under 300 USD.

@spiros2310 3 года назад

That’s a box of junk

@josephballdinger4078 3 года назад

Hey snowflake! You jelly bro? 😎

@doubleugly1594 2 года назад

Definitely not my cup of tea when it comes to watch choice but the comparison is fun lol Also you dont have to buy one or two $10k watches... there are hundreds of highly collectable, quality timepieces in the $250-$1000 price range that are beautiful and well built and dont NEED to copy a watch at 10x the price point..