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Will a Robot Steal Your Job Tomorrow?
As automation takes over more and more common jobs,it’s easy to worry that human labor has become obsolete. But what if the picture is a little more complicated? We’ll explain in this Wisecrack Edition on Automation: Are The Robots Winning?
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@theoptimisticmetalhead7787
@theoptimisticmetalhead7787 2 года назад
WORK may be essential to human nature, JOBS are absolutely not.
@foraxen2255
@foraxen2255 2 года назад
Jobs often turn out to be just pretending to do work; be too efficient at it and you may lose it.
@chrisstylez6515
@chrisstylez6515 2 года назад
You said some shit right here man 👍
@believe07
@believe07 2 года назад
Start Trek utopian future is exactly that. Technology evolved in a way that fullfilled all basic human needs so there was plenty of time left for research and space exploration. But for that, we would have to shift towards an non-profit mentality. Production efficiency and profit are not necessarily compatible.
@theoptimisticmetalhead7787
@theoptimisticmetalhead7787 2 года назад
@@believe07 100% true. You happen to be talking to a massive Trekkie here
@Matty002
@Matty002 2 года назад
work is a synonym of jobs, eg: i have to work on this. i would replace it with purpose. humans hate being bored
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake 2 года назад
Reminder: Germany may have higher automization but they also have a law forcing half of a company's board be staffed with labor so no decision can be made without support from the people at the company.
@baconknightproductions8297
@baconknightproductions8297 2 года назад
More manufacturing automation isn't going to fix economic stagnation because the U.S. economy is built on service jobs. We need to shift power from corporations to workers(such as unionizing) so they can recieve higher wages, get healthcare and other benefits, and reduce overworking by hiring more employees instead of forcing already existing employees to compete with the unemployed.
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 2 года назад
Reminder: Germany introduced assembly line murder during WW2.
@NotShowingOff
@NotShowingOff 2 года назад
Let’s just say, Germany has no problem replacing people
@Iandar1
@Iandar1 2 года назад
@@baconknightproductions8297 can I introduce you to economic democracy?
@baconknightproductions8297
@baconknightproductions8297 2 года назад
@@Iandar1 Like Worker Cooperatives?
@logandesris6841
@logandesris6841 2 года назад
I've actually experienced losing my job to automation but it wasn't as bad as everyone thought it would be at my company. I work in a UPS warehouse and I used to be a sorter. I felt extremely invaluable because I was one of 20 people in my warehouse that knew how to do my particular job and one of maybe 3 that was quite good at it. Last year, they automated the sorting job so my particular skill set was rendered obsolete. Luckily they didn't fire any of us. They just moved us to different parts of the building. And since the automation can do the job more than twice as fast, they've needed to hire more to keep up with the flow.
@TurokAgi
@TurokAgi 2 года назад
My ups warehouse still has people working in small sort. Idk if there's different types of sorters. Maybe my hub isn't automated enough, we only have the photo eyes and the load area feels like a third world country. My unload area feels somewhat modern thankfully. Hopefully they automate more of our warehouses
@Miranda17137
@Miranda17137 2 года назад
This is the strangest part of automation that I find somewhat confusing and also somewhat not. People who have clearly displayed talent and work ethic are going to be fine. Businesses are going to bin people who don't have the work ethic. I also suspect some businesses might be smart enough to realize that while a systems analyst and a programmer can build a program to do a job someone who actually understands it on a deep level still has a lot of value.
@thecoil9039
@thecoil9039 2 года назад
@@Miranda17137 you see, that's NOT the problem of Automation. Automation just brought up a PROBLEM WITHIN THE COMPANY. A company that fires anyone whose job was automated, they were just waiting on a excuse to fire anyone that they could without sacrificing productivity. And as you also said: smart companies retain that knowledge because it's invaluable.
@TheofficialDropthatbeat
@TheofficialDropthatbeat 2 года назад
@@Miranda17137 once the machines automate the whole process there will be no jobs left in that warehouse.
@dakotahholtman
@dakotahholtman 2 года назад
This is awesome, I hope more people hear about experiences like this one to help ease their scared little minds as we transition further into a future of less laborious work
@StephenLeGresley
@StephenLeGresley 2 года назад
I have no issue with automation. I would love a world where the back breaking labour jobs and monotonous jobs were replaced by machines. Of course UBI would have to be a requirement to offset it. It would be a utopia if people were able to choose careers based on their preference rather than being forced into them by economic need. It would also free many people up to pursue their own goals in life and have time to do that rather then focusing on simply work in the absence of everything else. As with everything, automation can be a good thing if it's done correctly and greed is taken out of the equation.
@toppersundquist
@toppersundquist 2 года назад
"... a good thing if it's done correctly and greed is taken out of the equation." So, automation is a bad thing. Got it.
@figsaregood
@figsaregood 2 года назад
the sponsor "fullsail" is a scam
@StephenLeGresley
@StephenLeGresley 2 года назад
@@toppersundquist No Automation if done right is a good thing. Greed is a bad thing.
@StephenLeGresley
@StephenLeGresley 2 года назад
@@figsaregood I could care less, it has nothing to do with what I said.
@kingdead42
@kingdead42 2 года назад
Automation isn't the problem. The problem is requiring people to sell you labor to survive, then removing the ability to sell your labor.
@Vanguard_dj
@Vanguard_dj 2 года назад
My concern is that we'll automate large portions of the economy, but we'll keep everything else as is - basically the wealth will continue to accumulate in the hands of a very very small portion of people.
@mandisaw
@mandisaw 2 года назад
Bingo! We can bring in the robots, but that won't make people less cruel or greedy.
@Vanguard_dj
@Vanguard_dj 2 года назад
@@mandisaw It's the fiduciary responsibility companies have to shareholders that does it I think, that'll need some drastic alteration if we're gonna fully automate everything (which I kinda hope we do eventually)
@acevaver5425
@acevaver5425 2 года назад
I think they should create labor guilds that regulate the political and research aspects of labor, so that for every worker replaced by UBI, a concurrent salary would be dispersed to the national UBI. For each guild, every person would be educated in the research of robotic efficiency of said automaton, in return monopolizing and renting these robots to companies. In such a situation, a person's basic income would be the UBI, the supplement would be promotion or bonus depending on their achievement in the guild. They would in essence have political participation due to the guild itself, negotiating set boundaries and wage for their specialization at large. In the event that the automaton outpaces human labor twice or higher, the salary requirement would double or expounded to reflect the output. The resources required for replacement of higher tier machines can also be offset by the taxes paid by individual companies. Think of it similar to having unions, but each member is paid in UBI rather than a regulated income due to political wrangling and lobbying.
@mandisaw
@mandisaw 2 года назад
@@Vanguard_dj Nah, for most of US modern history post-New Deal there were just checks & balances built into the system, that have been removed. From regulations like Glass-Steagle, to funding oversight agencies like Treasury (incl IRS and SEC), there was plenty of room for companies and shareholders to innovate and make money, while banks got their middle-man cut, and the gov't got enough on taxes to keep the supply chain humming and consumer demand afloat. Problems started when Republicans went all-in on Reagan-era nonsense that threw us back into boom/bust cycles again. Even Bush Sr, before he became Reagan's running mate, called that stuff "voodoo economics" because it was crazy talk, and fundamentally bad for the economy.
@mandisaw
@mandisaw 2 года назад
@@acevaver5425 Labor unions already support existing workers with education, job training, and career advancement. In some unions, like building trades, nursing, and manufacturing, they'll even help you while you're not working, with networking, skill-building, licensing exams, and job placement. Unions also do political organization and representation, like Meet the Representative/Candidates events, holding workshops around Covid safety and family & parental leave, as well as economic/social support like legal, retirement, and homeownership workshops & counseling.
@IAmNumber4000
@IAmNumber4000 2 года назад
There would be absolutely no problem with automation, if we did not live in a political economy that will evict you if you can’t find a job.
@thecoil9039
@thecoil9039 2 года назад
The thing is, this isn't a problem with automation, but rather how the system protects (or not) its workers. Automation just helped to bring it up.
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
Suppose your employer to offer unpaid training on your days off. It's not mandatory, you're giving up free time, the curriculum is relevant to the job. Is that a fair deal?
@andrewzuppardi9219
@andrewzuppardi9219 2 года назад
@@MRCKify No, automation is becoming a systemic issue that needs a widespread policy response. Also job training should be compensated because it ends up benefiting your employer
@KarlSnarks
@KarlSnarks 2 года назад
fully automated luxury gay space communism, here we come!
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 4 месяца назад
@@andrewzuppardi9219 The systemic issue is that high quality of living is incompatible with capitalism, plain and simple. The widespread policy response to solve that issue would raise some major red flags to both of America's major political parties, and would be rejected almost unanimously.
@rodneykelly8768
@rodneykelly8768 2 года назад
"These twenty hour work weeks are killing me."-George Jetson.
@TurokAgi
@TurokAgi 2 года назад
I'm working about 20 hours a week in a ups warehouse and tbh, they're killing me lmao
@thecoil9039
@thecoil9039 2 года назад
Hi, as an automation engineer, I can tell you from the inside how does everything look like (long text ahead). For example, automation was born out of the need to optimize resources (think of wind/watermill). To automate something, you need a repetitive task. Repetitive menial tasks (talking from a manufacturing perspective) should be under focus since that brings no development to a human being (no decision making, little to no learning, no problem solving) nor joy, tightening bolts for 8 hours a day is not fun. Now, automation is a tool, it doesn't solve problems on it's own like if it was magical. It requires proper engineering to be done properly, otherwise it'll bring more problems that it solved. For example a task could be so complex that an automated cell would need 3x the footprint and huge investment to replicate what a single operator can do. For that you need cad/cam designers, process engineers and of course, automation engineers. Then you actually have to maintain said machinery, electronic/electric/automation technicians are highly needed to keep machines working. A well designed machine would require basic problem solving/maintenance, since it could tell you in detail what's wrong (a particular sensor, the machine sequence was disturbed, etc), a poorly designed one will have little to no help and would require more experience in trouble shooting/maintenance to keep the machine running, I've run into both of these kinds. Now, outside of manufacturing, if your job has basic decision making (a process with predefined conditions or "recipes"), it will probably be automated by an AI. If your job is to analyze data, guess what? AI will take your job. If you do repetitive manual jobs (like adding the same formula to the same cell in excel on x amount of files), that can be automated. You could either worry about it OR you could use this info for your benefit and stay ahead of the curve: start learning about how to automate your job. However, that AI still needs someone with experience to tell it what to do and to have it properly trained, or if something bad happens, someone needs to trouble shoot it. Now, what should be, is that every company should reward it's employees that make their job more efficient, however, there's an article that comes to mind from years ago from a guy who automated his tasks, he did nothing te whole shift and got fired for that. I would like to say MOST, I think it's SOME companies, that don't know how to deal with that, if I have learned something from the pandemic, is that companies refuse to adapt to new ways of work (see the reluctance to adopt Home-Office), so, an employee optimizing it's processes, it's not certain if it'll have a reward or a punishment. 😬
@Captn_iBrows
@Captn_iBrows 2 года назад
If you're only talking about manufacturing while discussing the threats of automation, then you don't understand the threat of modern automation tools to workers. Mechanical muscles have existed for centuries, now we're making mechanical brains.
@thecoil9039
@thecoil9039 2 года назад
Indeed, AI is a threat (or a tool) to basically any job with basic decision making, think something like accounting, insurance, etc. If you have an easy-to-follow criteria, AI is the right choice.
@jghifiversveiws8729
@jghifiversveiws8729 Год назад
Indeed and the second we successfully create artificial general intelligence there really won't be a need for human workers anymore.
@Tential1
@Tential1 2 года назад
Key operating word, SHOULD. Automation SHOULD be common wealth, but instead it will be used by a ruling class
@camilocamacho4878
@camilocamacho4878 2 года назад
I just hope principles will be the guiding force then just instinct
@ThePhatFilosopher
@ThePhatFilosopher 2 года назад
*should * is a useless word. It’s what is & what isn’t.
@tokiomutex4148
@tokiomutex4148 2 года назад
As a person who uses automation on a daily basis and isn't a part of the ruling class I disagree.
@edumazieri
@edumazieri 2 года назад
We all use automation all the time. Like, you can translate something online easily, before, you would need to hire a translator person to help you out. You can order a pizza online, before you needed to call someone for them to take your order. Automation is not just for the ruling class. New ways of automating tasks come by, the world adapts, it even gets so integrated we barely even realize how much we automate things.
@MrBazBake
@MrBazBake 2 года назад
@@tokiomutex4148 Do you own the automation or is it something you buy from the ruling class with the wealth they're increasingly hoarding as productivity goes up?
@troywalkertheprogressivean8433
@troywalkertheprogressivean8433 2 года назад
"If machines produce everything we need, the outcome will depend on how things are distributed. Everyone can enjoy a life of luxurious leisure if the machine-produced wealth is shared, or most people can end up miserably poor if the machine-owners successfully lobby against wealth redistribution. So far, the trend seems to be toward the second option, with technology driving ever-increasing inequality.." -Stephen Hawking
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
Who will buy the generic products?
@wyguy1212
@wyguy1212 Год назад
Yep
@maallos334mi8
@maallos334mi8 Год назад
@@MRCKify The Miserably poor, while the wealthy will keep the money and the automation
@MRCKify
@MRCKify Год назад
@@maallos334mi8 Where will the money to buy generic come from? Cards on the table: I'm deliberately using "generic."
@maallos334mi8
@maallos334mi8 Год назад
@@MRCKify Thats the thing, the miserable poor will, in this scenario. They won't have any cash flow, but the rich will still insist the poor should pay for services rendered. Cause why not? The wealthy own the factories, why should they pay to take care of the masses? They could manufacture soldiers if they riot, deny them food if they don't comply, and make life for them and their kin living hell This is of course 40K levels of grimdark, but thats the legitimate fear of the quote above. If we can't solve the issue of automation as a society, the wealthy will do it for us, and in a way that only they benefit from.
@shorgoth
@shorgoth 2 года назад
The thing is about the naysayers about automation not really replacing jobs is that they are looking at the past and not the future to guide their trend predictions while full automation through a general purpose robot has never happened before, making their belief basically like people 2 weeks before the creation of the first car saying there will always be work for horses.
@Ramsey276one
@Ramsey276one 2 года назад
Horses still have work Just MUCH LESS than before Lucky horses...
@shorgoth
@shorgoth 2 года назад
@@Ramsey276one there is also way less horses overall...
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
@@shorgoth A lot less horse shit in the streets too...
@stratusfractus111
@stratusfractus111 7 месяцев назад
​@@shorgothGonna be alot less humans too. The 'help' is disposable.
@HaitaniMasayuki
@HaitaniMasayuki 2 года назад
I remember CGP Grey did a video about this years ago, where he compared "workers" with modern horses. Bottom line was that the transition time between people&robots still working at the same time and only robots working will be extremely difficult to tackle and most likely the reason it could fail.
@edumazieri
@edumazieri 2 года назад
I think the hardest part is getting people to stop being so afraid of change . The world is already changing a lot all the time, and it's adapting just fine. From manual labor, to machines, to more advanced machines, to even more advanced machines, and so on. This fear of losing a job over something is the big problem, if they replace your 12 hour/day job packing something with a machine, then you can learn how to service that machine and get a job thats even better you. When some jobs become irrelevant, new ones become relevant, and the world goes on. You just have to not be so afraid of giving up on previously learned things and embrace learning new ones, and get better at dealing with the disruption. Its usually VERY gradual, so it's not as hard as it might seem, many times we don't even realize how much has changed unless we look back years ago.
@NankitaBR
@NankitaBR 2 года назад
@@edumazieri That is a very privileged way of seeing things. Not everyone has the opportunity to do that.
@foraxen2255
@foraxen2255 2 года назад
@@edumazieri The thing is, not everyone is suited to do the brainy stuff. Plenty of people are perfectly happy doing manual labor as it keep them active and don't require too much thinking.
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 4 месяца назад
The biggest obstacle to the transition to full automation is and will be the social inertia of our currently capitalistic system.
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 4 месяца назад
@@foraxen2255 People will do things in their free time regardless of whether they get paid to. Case in point, that's already how life works.
@alextorres8635
@alextorres8635 2 года назад
The only problem with UBI is the glass ceiling that it ultimately creates through people's belief of what capitalism should operate. There's many people that would immediately think that anyone receiving UBI should make NO MORE money because they equate it to welfare. The true test of humanity will be how they redefine and recontexualize how the resources and finances produced gets distributed amongst the participants in the economy and how much potential there is for upward mobility in such a system. When you stop and think about it, how we decide who gets money and why is completely arbitrary and the important thing is that there IS a way to make money in an economy and there IS a path to upward mobility. We simply have to decide it all over again in a future where automation does what WE used to get paid to do.
@axelluktargott
@axelluktargott 2 года назад
So no one would get paid a salary because everyone gets UBI? I don't think that seems like a big risk
@alextorres8635
@alextorres8635 2 года назад
@@axelluktargott theres this prevailing idea in America that you should get only UBI and no other income or a wage and no UBI.
@foraxen2255
@foraxen2255 2 года назад
@@alextorres8635 The basic idea of UBI is that EVERYONE gets it even if they don't need it. Universal is in the name.
@alextorres8635
@alextorres8635 2 года назад
@@foraxen2255 you don't need to define it. I know what it is. I'm only saying what the hurdles are to having it implemented.
@camadams9149
@camadams9149 2 года назад
0:22 "Devaluing human labor" is an interesting idea. I'd argue the only value labor has is the value it can produce. If a machine can produce more value at a task than labor; labor has no value. I don't want people working boring, unfilling, dangerous, and hard jobs... just so they can "have jobs". If we are entering an economy that doesn't require significant labor then we just need a new system of distributing resources outside of wages
@YouMakeMyMotorRun
@YouMakeMyMotorRun 2 года назад
Hmm... so all those people who see so clearly how communism doesn't work... do those people also see super clearly how the current version of capitalism ALSO doesn't work? I mean, it seems clear to me that we're moving towards a dead-end, and we need a new system to rely on ASAP
@camadams9149
@camadams9149 2 года назад
@@YouMakeMyMotorRun Most people are brain dead sheep. My best guess: The current system collapses, there are MAJOR problems, then the technocrats fix it so they can enjoy their lives
@foraxen2255
@foraxen2255 2 года назад
People don't all have the same needs. Some people do like doing hard jobs, often getting great satisfaction from doing them. You also have those that like to do monotonous jobs as they can day dream while doing them or calm their anxieties. I, in my case love to troubleshoot, fix and improve things, doing that gives me huge satisfaction while I know load of people who can't stand it. The paradise of one can be the hell of someone else and vice versa.
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
Suppose my employer offers unpaid training on my days off. It's not mandatory, I'm giving up free time, the curriculum is relevant to the job. Is that a fair deal? What's the most reasonable objection?
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 4 месяца назад
@@foraxen2255 People can do things without it being tied to employment. In fact, they already do. The argument "we need hard jobs because some people like them" is absurd because the people who like doing those things will be doing them even if those jobs don't exist at all.
@Cloudsurfer69
@Cloudsurfer69 2 года назад
the issue with automation IMHO is simply who controls it. it could be amazing for humanity, but i fear it will just benefit the owners of companies and shareholders like everything else does these days. it *should* be a huge plus for us all and has potential, but people cant be trusted with such power!
@alphamorion4314
@alphamorion4314 2 года назад
Michael, you are definitely a worthy successor to Jared.
@PetersonSilva
@PetersonSilva Год назад
Very nice video, especially the second half. Great work!
@takocake7545
@takocake7545 2 года назад
i work security doing patrols around buildings.... and only one location added a camera and the camera wasn't even for security it was to look inside the security guard box and make sure we are opening and closing a gate for workers to drive inside... we didn't do any paperwork. just open and close the gate... trust me. i wish they would just automate that fucking gate.
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
How many times would the gate open per shift? Did the times come in clusters or strung out pretty evenly over time?
@takocake7545
@takocake7545 2 года назад
@@MRCKify pretty much evenly and about 20-40 times a shift if not more, there was staff of about 30 total. open for people going to lunch, coming from lunch and leaving.
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
@@takocake7545 Well, at least it was in daylight.
@takocake7545
@takocake7545 2 года назад
@@MRCKify the shift was 2pm-10pm
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
@@takocake7545 Ugh.
@CaptainJack2048
@CaptainJack2048 2 года назад
I've noticed in conversations that I've had with people about automation there isn't much thought given to jobs that are created as old jobs are being made obsolete. Changes in technology do drive changes in job markets, but so do a lot of other factors. Economies are incredibly complex and intricate machines. I also can't help but think back to the early 1980's (or earlier) when there was tremendous talk about a "paperless economy" and a "paperless society", which hasn't remotely come to pass. Not that we don't have the technology to become paperless, but there aren't enough people who want to. People who feel powerless over their own future will certainly lament impending obsolescence of their industries, but the problem is in large part social, not economic or technological. How we take care of each other is critical to a thriving world as well as economy.
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 4 месяца назад
"Hasn't remotely come to pass". Modern economies use paperless transactions more often than they exchange physical currency nowadays. The transition is now more than halfway complete.
@civilengineer3349
@civilengineer3349 2 года назад
I have no issue with automation. I just want the gov to provide my needs when there are no jobs for men who are more brawn than brain like me
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
Suppose my employer offers unpaid training on my days off. It's not mandatory, I'm giving up free time, the curriculum is relevant to the job. Is that a fair deal? What's the most reasonable objection?
@michaelpolinsky4611
@michaelpolinsky4611 2 года назад
Someone needs to install the heavy machinery
@LeoDamascusVG
@LeoDamascusVG 2 года назад
I have a few problems with the arguments about Flippy. First, the idea that a prototype isn't ideal at it's job means we're nowhere near where we need to be it's silly. Prototypes are how you get to that point, and their existence is a sign that the final product is on its way. Second, flipping a burger may be our lowest paid and lower skill cap job, but that doesn't make it one of the easiest to automate. Doing that properly requires sensors to determine the state of the meat, physics calculations to determine the proper movements based on meat weight and position, motor sensory information, etc. That's way more complicated for a computer than something like advanced mathematics, which we pay significantly more for people to do, but would be child's play for a computer. I'm less worried that the robots will replace burger workers (which they could also probably do more easily if they hadn't restricted themselves to using an arm the way humans do to flip burgers), and more worried about things like diagnosing illness, or data analysis that we pay very high salaries for people to do, but where we're already seeing robots outperform people in certain contexts
@maxerd
@maxerd 2 года назад
The first Wisecrack video I've watched since a loooooong time.
@superkoksu487
@superkoksu487 2 года назад
people : " robots will steal my job" Automation and robotics engineers : *sweats coolant*
@christopherfrost3333
@christopherfrost3333 2 года назад
0:20 I always make sure I used people check out when it’s not busy
@christopherross8358
@christopherross8358 2 года назад
Ow no Mr. Edison, the villagers are throwing rocks at the street lights again. 👩‍🌾👩‍🌾👩‍🌾🪨🪨🪨🔥🔥🔥💡💡💡🔥🔥🔥
@johneeeeeeee
@johneeeeeeee Год назад
I lived with Aaron for a short period in Oakland. Such a trip to see him s/o in all these Wisecrack vids.
@Alverant
@Alverant 2 года назад
With the self-checkout I don't have to deal with people and get to bag things the way I prefer.
@TurokAgi
@TurokAgi 2 года назад
This video made me smile the whole way through it
@marioalfonsoarreolaa.flore2882
@marioalfonsoarreolaa.flore2882 2 года назад
For most companies, and for now the cost of using a robot (in the physical or software sense) is higher than using a human. Human robots (low wage employees) usually make more financial sense. Specially if you have access to a global workforce that can work for much less. That said: I had several run ins with google bots calling me over the phone during my last job. They sounded human, but if I gave them an answer they didnt expect or understand, they ended on a loop until they timed out. They are getting better every passing year. But they still have a long way to go, price and capability wise to get to a good enough point and replace humans.
@michaelbrewer3814
@michaelbrewer3814 2 года назад
Ouch they must have a contract with Full Sail for X amount of videos. I actually feel bad for Michael because I am certain he knows how his audience feel about this. I actually laughed out loud when the advert showed them bragging about now having lecture halls. Lectures arent fun but think about this, what value is a degree if you didnt listen to one lecture during your entire tenure? This is not a cheap school either. Full Sail is not access to industry tools, they are just a scam.
@garretthaney9134
@garretthaney9134 2 года назад
Lived not far from their campus just outside Orlando. I always had a feeling those kids were getting taken advantage of... it seemed like their best case was a contract QA job at EA. Everyone I knew "in the industry" had a degree from a major university, most went through masters programs.
@TheDSasterX
@TheDSasterX 2 года назад
@@garretthaney9134 I have a bachelor's from a reputable enough university up here in Canada and managed to score a research scholarship for one of my summers. That got me exactly 0 jobs in a year of unemployment trying to break into games. The master's might be the final piece of the puzzle... or I just suck.
@neeneko
@neeneko 2 года назад
@@garretthaney9134 scary thing is, the 'taking advantage of' continues if they do get hired. full sailers tend to be 'ready to hit the ground running' trained in specific technologies, and thus have a fairly narrow window for employment. means you can get them cheap and overwork them.
@Mikhail-Tkachenko
@Mikhail-Tkachenko 2 года назад
@@TheDSasterX If you want to get into game development you'll have to work for free. It's one of those fields where every 18 - 30 year old wants to do it. I've been on the Forgotten Hope 2 dev team for 7 years, not paid a cent.
@Yuli_Ban
@Yuli_Ban 2 года назад
The problem with the "automation is a long way off" argument is that it probably isn't. It only _looks_ like it's a long way off because we're at the lowest part of exponential growth and are extrapolating linearly, with an added bias for protecting the status quo. Once we cross a certain inflection point of AI and robotics, we could quite literally go from a world familiar to the present with limited, crappy robots and barely-functional AIs to fully-automated luxury gay space communism in the span of three to five years. As in perhaps there's a forward-thinking high school senior reading neoliberal rags about how the robots aren't coming and artificial general intelligence is impossible and thus planning on a 4-year college degree with a comfortable expectation of a good 30 to 50 years of labor without any fear of automation... who then graduates five years from now into a world where their field has been almost completely automated and their degree is worthless. Can't say that would make for a very stable society....
@foraxen2255
@foraxen2255 2 года назад
I am someone who have worked in maintenance and seen first hand what automation can do, but also it's flaws and limitations. You see, I am one of the guys that fix those machines, and I have seen how much of a massive sink hole they can be when they are poorly implemented, badly maintained or pushed too hard to make up for their cost or just to squeeze a little more profit from them. It's not rare to see an automated company keeping around a lot of workers because the stupid machines are often down or are not flexible enough to cover for all their needs. You also need smart and knowledgeable people to set those up, operate and maintain them, the competent ones are not that common from what I seen.
@draken5379
@draken5379 2 года назад
The idea that automation is long way off is silly. Amazon literally wouldnt work or be possible without its warehouse automation. And an automated Amazon warehouse uses 90% less humans than it did before the automation. Anyone who believes the 'jobs' created by automation, will outweigh the jobs made pointless by it, is simply lying or delusional.
@__-tz6xx
@__-tz6xx 2 года назад
Around 7:05 reminded me that I read this book titled Reality is Broken which talks about games being work which was desired.
@Niemandzockt
@Niemandzockt 2 года назад
The fear of losing jobs hints at a bigger issue in the system: "Everybody needs to work", rather than "These things must be done so everyone is happy." Why should the caveman work when he has all the food he needs and the fire plenty of wood? During the Soviet occupation of East Germany, work was both a duty and a priviledge. If you refused to work you got arrested, but an employer wasn't allowed to turn you down and sometimes even had to come up with some nonesense jobs with no real purpose.
@NotShowingOff
@NotShowingOff 2 года назад
Droid repairman as all wars will be fought by droids
@stevenscott2136
@stevenscott2136 2 года назад
"People need to be kept busy so they won't get bored enough to start killing kings, senators, CEOs, and priests", is the real message.
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
Dig a hole, fill it up again. That doesn't sound like serving yourself or a customer.
@Grizabeebles
@Grizabeebles 2 года назад
As somebody with a disability who first started recieving income support at 18 and never really joined the traditional labour force, I can tell you first-hand that the real motto of the workplace is "everybody has to work like they're afraid for their lives at all times." Since I've spent my whole life managing a small fixed income, I don't have to take jobs purely for survivial. As a result, I don't avoid managers and I'm not afraid to have a sit when I feel tired or confused about what I'm doing and need to come up with a plan to do my job more efficiently. Which is usually what gets me fired eventually. Any manager who tries to force my work patterns and stress level to what they consider "normal" will wreck my mental health to the point I start making mistakes and missing shifts almost immediately. I've had it proved to me time and again that bosses don't care at all how much you get done - they only care how well you follow the exact pattern they tell you to follow. And to hell with you if you're someone who can't follow that pattern.
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
@@Grizabeebles Sorry if I'm missing something, but it sounds like you've never had a desk job.
@camilocamacho4878
@camilocamacho4878 2 года назад
I am a massage therapist I feel like it's going to be one of the last things that's going to replace because it is strictly human to human connection
@ocara50000
@ocara50000 2 года назад
Dude I just bought an awesome massage gun
@lukastargazer3089
@lukastargazer3089 2 года назад
My dad loves those massage chairs that you used to see at malls back in the before times...
@bluebarrymore5442
@bluebarrymore5442 2 года назад
they are making sex robots... i am pretty sure a massage wont be much harder lol.
@camilocamacho4878
@camilocamacho4878 2 года назад
@@ocara50000 I work with those machines all the time believe you me there's a big difference between doing it yourself and have somebody else do it for you specially if you're kind of in a condition that you need help like being pregnant or if you're in a wheelchair or something of you of that matter those things are actually very precise machines in the body's I should live a more complicated muscular wise specially things that you know generally people called knots
@camilocamacho4878
@camilocamacho4878 2 года назад
@@lukastargazer3089 they have a super Advanced massage jet piled a chair at my gym really amazing high-tech stuff
@Sardonicus
@Sardonicus 2 года назад
A big part of all of this is just how dumb people are about labor and how much they over-value it. To a lot of people in America, someone below retirement age that doesn't work enough or at all is worthless, more so the younger they are, and especially so for men. Someone that's 35 and doesn't work, for example, is presumed to be a bum, even if they have plenty of money (so long as they're not stupid rich). There's a big stigma against stay-at-home dads or men as home makers, where they're presumed to be lazy. Even conversing with strangers, small talk always starts with "what do you do?" (as in, for a living) and if your answer is "nothing, I'm too disabled" or "nothing, I'm independently wealthy" or even "I do odd jobs", they often look for an exit and don't know anything else to talk about, or the entire conversation shifts to them trying to "fix" your status of not working. I know this first-hand as a 35 year old male who has some of his own money (brokerage stuff) that is a "home maker" due to being too disabled to work (a combination of schizophrenia, delayed sleep phase disorder, and neuroleptic-induced parkinsonism). Often times, the minute it comes out that I don't work, people run for the door. They don't shift to asking about my hobbies or what I do with my time or try to learn any more about me. I've even once had a situation where a barista at this coffee place I go to every day at 2 in the afternoon made a bet with her coworker that I was a drug dealer (because how could I afford to ride a Harley every day and get coffee). Never mind that there was no presumption that maybe I had a night job, or maybe I was a rich trust fund kid that preferred "regular people clothes" to suits or anything else. And look further at all the articles about how during the pandemic, when people were allowed to work remotely, productivity actually increased and yet, managers are still forcing people back to working in-person in the office, in part because of a belief that workers will be lazy and unproductive and not get their work done if they aren't watched over for their 8-hour shift, despite mountains of evidence to the contrary.
@ndelano
@ndelano 2 года назад
America ridiculously undervalues labor. See: unions dying out, gig economy, student loan crisis etc. Kids opening toys on tik tok are millionaires; people building and repairing your infrastructure, growing your food, and keeping you alive in emergencies are borderline homeless in comparison
@5PINN3R
@5PINN3R 2 года назад
@@ndelano Overvalued in the sense that if you don't have a Job as the general public understands it, you're considered lazy. Undervalued in the sense that, like you said, people doing invaluable work are underpaid, while many more are treated less and less like human beings and more and more like cheap, replaceable cogs. So a bit of both, oddly enough.
@whereami3362
@whereami3362 2 года назад
Self justifications
@stevenscott2136
@stevenscott2136 2 года назад
It's lowest common denominator conversation, like the weather. We can't talk about hobbies and interests because the random stranger probably doesn't share them, but we can all complain about work and the humidity. I suspect the "back to the office" thing is managers trying to conceal how unnecessary most of them are. My boss often wanders around starting random chats because he's bored -- we're all self-starters, so if it's not "fight over budget" season, he doesn't have much to do.
@clivedoe9674
@clivedoe9674 2 года назад
A robot flipping the burgers in the way a human would seems entirely inefficient. Have the meat drop into big George foreman grill and sit there for a few moments before being mechanically scraped onto a conveyor that takes it to its destination
@edumazieri
@edumazieri 2 года назад
Ya I think that invention was very limited because it wanted to do it the way a human does. If they thought outside that box, they could definitely come up with a more efficient burger cooking machine. It did seem like just a marketing stunt though, so whatever.
@baconknightproductions8297
@baconknightproductions8297 2 года назад
If you want to make a guitar playing robot, you don't need to make a sentient android, just have hooks pluck the strings and hold down the strings on the neck and have it run midis
@YouMakeMyMotorRun
@YouMakeMyMotorRun 2 года назад
Biggest hurdle to overcome is how many factories tend to think of automation as "let's make a mechanical arm that repeats the movements of our human workers". It does work for assembly lines or similar jobs where the worker repeats the same motion mechanically... but that's just a small fraction of them. Many other jobs require continuous adjustment on behalf of the worker, reacting to their environment, etc. so the only way for automation to work there is to automate the entire environment surrounding the labour, instead of just the labour itself Basically, as you said: the burger flipper fails because it's just a "let's slap a robot on our pre-existing, human-oriented kitchen and call it a day". For it to work, what you need is an entire robot-oriented kitchen!
@YouMakeMyMotorRun
@YouMakeMyMotorRun 2 года назад
@@baconknightproductions8297 Why make a guitar playing robot when there's already boomboxes and the like, is the thing. If you want something that plays music perfectly, there's already better solutions for it. If you want something that offers you a performance with a musical instrument, then a robot won't give you that, since all they do is repeat a motion or a pre-programmed directive. You need a human that's able to improvise, express themselves and allow you to empathize with
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368
@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 2 года назад
Given how often the McDonald's ice cream machine is broken, they'll need human back-up.
@MartyD
@MartyD 2 года назад
love self-checkout because I have a bagging preference 😅
@bluebarrymore5442
@bluebarrymore5442 2 года назад
that is sad
@camilocamacho4878
@camilocamacho4878 2 года назад
Never be afraid to tell your cashier about your bagging preferences
@stickynorth
@stickynorth 2 года назад
@@bluebarrymore5442 Judge Not, Mofo!
@bluebarrymore5442
@bluebarrymore5442 2 года назад
@@stickynorth i am not judging. i just feel bad for some to have that much anxiety over something that has literally 0 impact. i feel sad for people with social anxiety too. its not judgment to feel pitty for someone.
@brandonmorel2658
@brandonmorel2658 2 года назад
@@camilocamacho4878 You mean bagboys, right?
@Matt20911985
@Matt20911985 2 года назад
The skeptic's argument is that technology doesn't work that well yet. Does anyone here want to explain what a bell curve is? Because there are a lot of technologies that for a long time didn't look like they were gonna work until they did and exploded onto the market. Like solar panels, personal computers, and smartphones. Lastly, when it comes to the book downplaying automation I saw the interview, and there was a lot of detail which is kind of a common theme when it comes to books and documentaries downplaying economic, technological, societal, and environmental shifts. Mainly because they're focusing only on one or two data sets and not all the correlating data sets. Just why my bullshit meter goes on as soon as I start hearing gaps in conclusion, and aspects of data that are explained thoroughly enough.
@stevenscott2136
@stevenscott2136 2 года назад
The only tech whose true potential was immediately recognized was when that ape in "2001" started smashing skulls with an elephant femur.
@aerozord
@aerozord 2 года назад
A point thats missed and is perhaps the real paradigm shift. Its not low level essential work like service industry thats at high risk, its low level skilled labor. Truck drivers, middle managers, accountants, etc. This wont be unemployed poor people, this will be a significant chunk of the middle class suddenly being out of work.
@shantanuselokar6357
@shantanuselokar6357 2 года назад
Seeing this video as I'm learning UiPath to automate my reports and presentations to save time and effort.
@markmurex6559
@markmurex6559 2 года назад
Nah- we will always have new job fields as time goes on. Everything changes and we will adapt to those changes. We can't just superimpose one thing on top of how we live now and think we won't adapt in that time.
@malcolmmaciver7000
@malcolmmaciver7000 2 года назад
An excellent video - as always. My only disappointment is not looking into the limits of technology vs perceived limits of technology. It always amazes me that the public perception of technology and its abilities far outstrips the reality. In my own profession (eyecare) we have elements of technology that have promised obsolesence to clinicians only to find it not only doesnt meet basic requirements but is excessively deficient. Like your example of outsourcing labour under the pretence of technology - we often utilise the tool (often for the wow factor, and that its become expected) and then re-measure manually - relying upon the more repeatable manual method. I am sure this exists across many (if not most) sectors - so given this deficiency why are we so eager to press the benefits of technology? chronological snobbery? or is ist something else? It would have been good to see this explored
@mrwarr
@mrwarr 2 года назад
0:47 oh the nostalgia. I’ve seen many presentations in this room.
@imperlast2
@imperlast2 2 года назад
As someone who's worked in several factories with different lvls and types of automation it's still got a long way to go, also there's times that humans will do it faster then a robot
@matildatheoboldt2261
@matildatheoboldt2261 2 года назад
So on the subject of Flippy.... It's almost like these "low skilled entry level jobs" actually require skill and actual labor when you have to cook a burger at a consistent level of quality while coordinating with a team to plate the food in an efficient manner while also being the team that maintains the whole damn kitchen from the equipment to sanitation. I have worked in restaurants most of my life and most people can't make the cut due to the ever present stress, the shit pay, and having your dignity as a human being constantly under assault by pull yourself up by your bootstraps assholes whose daddy's car dealership paid their way through school. The people that stay do it because they love what they do, they're passionate about cooking and for them being told the meal they prepared was fantastic brings a high greater than the cocaine we're sniffing of the head of the employee restroom
@sheilalawrence54
@sheilalawrence54 Год назад
In some supermarkets they are putting cameras on each automatic checkout big brother is watching lol
@user-hm4yi7um9d
@user-hm4yi7um9d 2 года назад
Replacing human labor is the best thing that can happen. Most people shouldn't have to work, and covering labor costs are a huge percentage of costs.
@biomuseum6645
@biomuseum6645 Год назад
“Most people shouldn’t have to work” source: I want to lay all day in my bed
@user-hm4yi7um9d
@user-hm4yi7um9d Год назад
@@biomuseum6645 first, I don't even lie around all day when I'm on vacation. Second, it's not your business if that is what someone wants to do. Most people have really pointless jobs, and their only real value is being a consumer.
@metasequoia3097
@metasequoia3097 8 месяцев назад
@@biomuseum6645 You say that like it's a bad thing lol
@misha_odd
@misha_odd Год назад
There's a great observation of Orwell's in his "The Road to Wigan Pier", where he argues about incoming automatization era and what it means for mining industry. It perfectly applies to our current situation, and goes in favor of this theory that this process lasts for already more than a 100 years
@joshportal2808
@joshportal2808 2 года назад
One of the major problems with automation is that companies want to make machines to replace human jobs instead of the machine jobs done by humans. Basically make the variable cost of the company into a fixed cost and automated. It is the race to the bottom of cost not realizing it lowers everything else with it. Amazon has 5 locations in America that are 99% automatic but the company doesn’t like to admit that they are also the least productive locations in the company. The machines may not need breaks, healthcare, time off or rest but they are limited to their programs. The one automatic facility in Idaho is 25% as productive to the human location 100 miles away. Amazon try to make these locations faster and more productive but it made cost go up everywhere especially in maintenance cost. Basically they have to close a location down for a week to a month to fix all the machines if they have the machines working as fast and productive as humans for a week. One of the box arm transfer machines costs in 2016 was $17.25 an hour for 5 years straight. However that cost doesn’t account for speed, Energy consumption, maintenance, and updates. The true price for one of these machines is $57.44 an hour for 5 years straight and that is for the Chinese ones. The ones made in Europe or America cost $101.73 an hour for 5 years straight but have a better yield on investments if the facility decided to go 100% wind and solar powered.
@_GeneralMechanics_
@_GeneralMechanics_ 2 года назад
I for one, welcome our robot and cow overlords. Lord Bender is great, and all hail Megatron! My Pinzgauer-Charolais herd is at their command.
@kf8113
@kf8113 2 года назад
This may be a niche angle to tackle this from, but I feel its relevant because of the fact that higher automation is associated with yet higher labor rates. Basically, I propose that labor and technology works like a trophic pyramid in ecology, where the existence of a predator at the tip can only be supported by the existence of many more prey, itself supported by many, many more plants at the bottom. Likewise, maybe technology is stuff that exists higher up on our labor-trophic pyramid, needing the support of a wider base of "compositional" labor and smaller technologies. Think how robots need computers to program them with, which need programmers to use them, who need farmers to feed them, and so on. Each 'stage' of the trophic pyramid represents a wider and wider base of primary-source energy in the ecological trophic pyramid; likewise, further technological elaboration requires an ever-wider base of labor. And like how grass becomes threatened when deer over-graze, and wolves chase and prey on deer, allowing the grass enough relief to maintain themselves, the heights of the labor-trophic pyramid increase (as represented by "productivity") while the actual time spent working has only ever increased. Meanwhile, output falls for the same reason deer cant eat all the grass away. If grass is our time and labor-capacity, and if deer are jobs eating into our time, then wolves are technologies that eliminate some jobs, but still require their own jobs to exist -- like in the trophic pyramid, there has to be a critical number of deer (jobs) for wolves (tech) to exist. More lifeforms have been created, more energy is going through the system, more grass is growing over a wider area, but the grass is always being eaten. If for some reason the grass were not being eaten, everything but the grass would die. A labor-free society has no technology -- this makes impossible the vision of a labor-free techno-automated world. The idea that a robot means you don't have to work is motivated by an illusion of separation from that robot. Really, what the existence of the robot implies is that you must pitch in to take care of and steward this thing. Which is something we should be doing with things we actually need directly, like plants and soil bacteria and whatnot (consider that nature is already fully automated, and self-regulating to boot).
@hunter99225
@hunter99225 2 года назад
I think too many people miss the real problem of automation. Robots don't slide into the spot of a human and take it's place and job. Automation changes the fundamentals of business so they need less workers. Here are some examples: 1. Robots and ATMs did not replace tellers, Online Banking eliminates the need for physical transactions and therefore eliminates the need for as many workers in the banking industry. 2. In a similar way, the threat to cashiers isn't self checkout. It's Amazon. Amazon has made brick and motor stores obsolete. 3. Journalism is now digital and far less journalist are needed as well as the many other jobs supporting the print industry. 4. I speculate that the next major occupation to see rapid decline are janitors and environmental service workers. Why? As more people work remote, less people will be needed to clean public spaces. They will still be needed, but a lot of work will be gone when business no long need commercial real estate. Now there is no doubt some jobs are being gained here. Amazon hires people for distribution, Banks hire software engineers, and there might be a slight pick up in home cleaning services. But, as the world gets more digital and there is less need for physical work, there will be less jobs. In other words, robots don't take our jobs, they eliminate the need for them.
@brandonmorel2658
@brandonmorel2658 2 года назад
There will be new specialized jobs generated by automation but overall the average joe will lose a lot of the more menial work. Robots dont tire, nor quit so why would companies hire actual people anymore, apart from the folk doing maintenance on the robots which can be replaced too by even more robots.
@elijahclaude3413
@elijahclaude3413 2 года назад
This exactly!! Moreover, it also dehumanizes the value of human labor. This is actually what the luddites were saying centuries ago. They were not scared of technology, they actually were the ones building or maintaining the machines.. but they saw how automation reduced the value of hand-crafted products such that people took for granted how much work went into making something like a shoe. AND it made hand-crafted products a luxury thing.. a symbol of class/wealth. It also reduces the bargaining power workers have, since the need for their entire industry would be gone and unionizing would do nothing. We really have to be very careful about what is being automated, by whom, and how (fast). Our economy is not at all setup to support millions of unemployed people who never had the opportunity to re-skill. And if this pace of automation accelerates, than even people with a high aptitude for learning new things will not be able to keep up. Then of course you can even argue that automation just creates more waste, since it leads to over-consumption, where companies (like Amazon, car manufacturers, etc) make profits based on how many things they sell, as opposed to how long those products last or how often they are used or even if its actually a necessity or innovation without negative byproducts. It incentivizes them to advertise every product as a life-changing or otherwise necessary thing to be a part of society and creates a dependence on those items (the personal hygiene industry is a great example of this, because sweat doesn't actually smell, its only when you have a funky bacteria ecosystem that you smell, so they design deodorants that destroy all bacteria (supposedly by accident) which makes your microbiome dependent on the deodorant... this is not a conspiracy, just look it up). There are SO many cases of increased productivity being completely artificial, but empowered through automation and justified through 'economic growth'. Focusing the automation conversation on just jobs really ignores these bigger problems.
@YouMakeMyMotorRun
@YouMakeMyMotorRun 2 года назад
@@elijahclaude3413 Question is, if the only value you have in the economy is as a worker, then once the jobs go away, and nobody has any money... who are the robots producing stuff for? I mean, if nobody works, and working is the only way to get money so you can buy stuff, then nobody has money and nobody buys stuff. So then, why keep robots running when whatever they produce doesn't have anyone to buy it? Quite the conundrum...
@elijahclaude3413
@elijahclaude3413 2 года назад
@@YouMakeMyMotorRun Yeah, you'd think so, but this is the problem with UBI and gig economy jobs. Once enough people aren't making enough to buy much, companies will support a UBI (subsidized by the government), supplying people with buying money. Or they may utilize things like NFTs and cryptos to create gig economies where everyone will be in the business of buying and selling digital products. This will be just enough to support a consumerist economy, but not enough to help people actually live fulfilling lives. People will have various side hustles, mostly around speculating on digital real estate or stocks for these automation companies. But maybe I'm just being dystopian there. Either way, I think we really need to reconsider our entire economic system beyond just production and consumption.
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
@@elijahclaude3413 Citations for the deodorant dynamic?
@Elfos64
@Elfos64 2 года назад
What, no mention of RU-vidr CGP Grey's "Humans need not apply" video?
@absarius1216
@absarius1216 2 года назад
All hail labor-less economy!!!
@EricArgyris
@EricArgyris 2 года назад
I find so much value in my work. I work in school kitchens all around my city and really feel like I'm contributing to my community. I feel a connection with society and other people that is taking part in this societies division of labor that is producing the means of our collective survival and advancement. Imperfectly and unfairly fore sure. And it's that unfairness and faulty parts of society that drives my motivation for political involvement for a betterment of society.
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
You mean that you volunteer or that you draw an income as a school employee at their cafeterias?
@EricArgyris
@EricArgyris 2 года назад
@@MRCKify employee
@TimeOfSin
@TimeOfSin 2 года назад
Saying that full automation is far off has many of the same issues that discussion around climate change has, in that it means we'll likely be slow to act and unprepared for when it does suddenly become very relevant to our lives.
@foraxen2255
@foraxen2255 2 года назад
It is far off not because we don't have the technology, but because implementing full automations is technically difficult. I have seen many businesses attempt to automate themselves and sink millions as well as years of time trying to make it work properly.
@TrashMojo
@TrashMojo 2 года назад
as someone who is currently in a position that may be automated by next year and genuinely unsure if I'll have a job soon. I have big concerns in automation persuits
@A2Zondeck
@A2Zondeck 2 года назад
Wow wasn’t expecting to see my alma mater lol
@fernandoorozco5968
@fernandoorozco5968 2 года назад
Happy Earth Day to everyone
@NankitaBR
@NankitaBR 2 года назад
The worst part of automation for me is not the automation itself, but the automation inside of a late-stage capitalist society. Automation is removing jobs but that wouldn't be a problem if we lived in a society with an universal wage automation, it would be a gift, not a threat. Look at Star Trek. If we didn't depend on having a job to feed and house ourselves, automation would just free our times to more have fulfilling experiences in our daily lives and do more things that give us more meaningful lives instead of wasting away in a menial job. But that's not the society we live in, and therefore automation is plain and simply a threat to the lower classes of our society because we depend on having a job to be able to live.
@civilengineer3349
@civilengineer3349 2 года назад
"Look at Star Trek" Is there any non-fictional example?
@aevumlux3323
@aevumlux3323 2 года назад
@@civilengineer3349 no because it has never been done
@bbreimm
@bbreimm 2 года назад
@@aevumlux3323 Automation has been done before, the real issue at hand is that Artificial Intelligence is blooming to a point where it can rival and outperform humans in an ever increasing amount of tasks and fields, but being able to do so 24/7 and never having to ask for a sick day or being unproductive because of emotional turmoils, nor ever having the idea of leaving the company for a raise after the initial investment has been made besides the occasional maintenance fees. This humanity has never seen and can only look to the imagination of futurists, sociologists and science-fiction for advice.
@aevumlux3323
@aevumlux3323 2 года назад
@@bbreimm I was referencing automation at the scale seen in star trek. He asked why star trek as the example and it's because no one has achieved automation to eliminate the need of labor to that degree.
@bbreimm
@bbreimm 2 года назад
@@aevumlux3323 Just wanted to clarify. I'm not a Trekkie but I think we're basically saying the same thing you and I. No need to argue or defend yourself.
@deborahjanes3706
@deborahjanes3706 2 года назад
This relates to what someone in the global elite said 2 years ago during a meeting of the World Economic Forum when he talked about the 'great reset'... a world driven by A.I. (singularity) and robot/automation, with 40% of the population out of work, Universal Basic Income, introduction of technologies that have not yet been introduced to the public. The well-promoted robot, Sophie, who has legal citizenship in Saudi Arabia, has been working in a pc-hub field there and is analysing every bit of financial data in existence in order to create a new plan for a new global financial system. These changes will be introduced by A.I. at a reasonable pace. In other words, our world is going to change much faster than most of us would be ready for. This leads to the question: what will we do with all our free time?! This presumes a significant change in how we define ourselves. Especially when A.I. will be sharing its own analysis of what a human is!
@TurokAgi
@TurokAgi 2 года назад
I'd love to watch that video or those videos of what you're talking about, if u can find the names or links to them. Sounds interesting
@deborahjanes3706
@deborahjanes3706 2 года назад
@@TurokAgi ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uPYx12xJFUQ.html A propaganda marketing piece from the elite. Coming from a military intel background I know that everything big that has been happening for decades was all planned in the late 1960's when AI and the internet were first developed (tech and scientific discovery are never revealed instantly to the public but only decades after the fact).
@kingmasterlord
@kingmasterlord 2 года назад
good that frees us up to garden the planet and create art and innovation
@rage_2000
@rage_2000 2 года назад
I sure hope so
@jakelamata4544
@jakelamata4544 2 года назад
Yes!
@a.filakiewicz2942
@a.filakiewicz2942 2 года назад
That is a good point about self-checkouts. I refuse to use them unless a company would promise a discount. None have done it so far ;)
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
So you don't expect it to take you less time?
@dougputhoff
@dougputhoff 2 года назад
I think a customer should get a discount for using automated checkers!
@Radhaun
@Radhaun 2 года назад
can't do that. then they might have to give up just the tiniest fraction of profits.
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
You are: your time and reassurance that your groceries are packed to your specifications. Risk is re-endogenized.
@franciscovarela7127
@franciscovarela7127 2 года назад
Watching Wisecrack is work.
@macrosales4438
@macrosales4438 2 года назад
You had me laughing hard with you Elizabeth home thing so true🤣🤣🤣🫠🫠🫠
@austinhernandez2716
@austinhernandez2716 Год назад
That wasn't a flugelhorn, that was a trumpet. At least it didn't sound like one, and definitely didn't look like one. As a musician on trumpet, I had to call you out 😂
@gelya420
@gelya420 2 года назад
I was thinking of his eye color when he said legally stoned
@dyotoorion1835
@dyotoorion1835 2 года назад
The Elizabeth Holmes clip was funny! xD
@edsflowrider6872
@edsflowrider6872 2 года назад
I would simply automate as many jobs as possible and pay the worker who loses their job until their retirement age. For example, truck drivers. Replace him with a self driving truck and pay him until he would’ve retired. Production stays the same (or increases with truck not needing sleep) and a family doesn’t end up on the street. If he wants some extra cash he can go get another job with his new found free time without losing the benefits and pay from the truck driving job.
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
This presumes that the truck can be self-driving. Should CDL requirements be lowered or a newer, lower classification be created for short-distance trucking?
@edsflowrider6872
@edsflowrider6872 2 года назад
@@MRCKify I was just using truck driving as an example since self driving vehicles are close but obviously still being worked on. The point stands for basically any job. If we can automate it without any real drawbacks then we should. If there are drawbacks then it’s case by case
@Pheyora
@Pheyora 2 года назад
Could've had yang 💆🏽 #yanggang #UBI
@bibaseballgirl
@bibaseballgirl 2 года назад
We've gotta change the terms we're thinking in. Why do trades exist in the first place? People needed leatherwork and blacksmithing. They needed farms for food. A trade is a tool to achieve some other goal. So let's ask what goals a trade is trying to achieve,or what goal we seek to achieve by joining it. I've known streeters who could survive anything,because they distill processes down to the real goal. They always know what they're really trying to do.
@frannyfranman
@frannyfranman 2 года назад
Consumer labor reminds me of when restaurants leave the tails on shrimp. Like ok homie, you gonna pay me to prep my own food now?
@virtualtools_3021
@virtualtools_3021 2 года назад
The tails are food
@Godsforce
@Godsforce 2 года назад
100% I get my cut at self check outs, mostly with free bags
@Maxx__________
@Maxx__________ 2 года назад
How is Chipotle gonna make any money if everyone is scraping pennies from sidewalks to order the bare minimum? It doesn't really make sense. They'll have to use some of the money they saved with all the automation to make the food affordable to more people so they can get a larger share of that sweet sweet burrito market.
@seanmaddex4104
@seanmaddex4104 2 года назад
Fear of all jobs disappearing is ridiculous. If people had no jobs there would be no consumers.
@lau4893
@lau4893 2 года назад
I literally just started working as an automation engineer this week lmao
@DamienJones77
@DamienJones77 2 года назад
When my computer crashes out of nowhere and it's fan lifts into space when I open Word, I doubt technology is going to take over for a good long while yet.
@me-nah3343
@me-nah3343 2 года назад
There are also some series issues with UBI.
@bradweir5579
@bradweir5579 2 года назад
Thank God flippy failed and we still have our burger flipping job.
@jeremyjw
@jeremyjw 2 года назад
give me a robot that can brew beer and let me sit on the beach all day
@chrispychicken9614
@chrispychicken9614 2 года назад
“The robot at 15:37 didn’t replace a job, there’s someone standing there watching it work.” 🙄 I’m sure that worker is so satisfied with their job of watching a robot until it breaks, then waiting on someone who makes Ten times his pay to come fix it so he can go back to work.
@ScooterCat64
@ScooterCat64 Год назад
I'd much rather have a job watching robots than have a job in the fast food industry. If you're allowed to listen to audiobooks while watching the robots, that's a pretty pleasant way to make money comparatively
@jmcdrawer5031
@jmcdrawer5031 Год назад
@@ScooterCat64 you really believe companies will pay you just to watch and nothing more?
@fireaza
@fireaza 2 года назад
I remember an episode of _Kino's Journey_ which was about a country with advanced automation technology that was able to completely eliminate the need for its citizens to work. However, despite this, the citizens continued to work, doing the same work that the machines are able to do faster and more accurately. The reason being that although they had to technology to make a country where people don't need to work possible, they were unable to solve the social issues. Like how wealth should be distributed in a society where you can't use how much work someone does as a benchmark for how much money they should get.
@KarlSnarks
@KarlSnarks 2 года назад
manufacturing held in common, everyone takes what they need. I solved the country's problem ;)
@TheCreepypro
@TheCreepypro 2 года назад
figures that when it comes to automation its reach exceeds its grasp that being said 4 day work weeks should totally be a thing
@bluebarrymore5442
@bluebarrymore5442 2 года назад
if robots do everything. WHY would people need money at all... its so wierd that people think money is important.
@camilocamacho4878
@camilocamacho4878 2 года назад
If money is not so important it could just be reused more like a pacing machine then necessarily A limitation machine
@bluebarrymore5442
@bluebarrymore5442 2 года назад
@@camilocamacho4878 i guess that makes since. like ration tickets basically. everyone gets the same.
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece
@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece 2 года назад
Washing clothes used to be work. Like several hours a week. Now it's like 2-3$ (wear of the washing machine + consumables , energy , water etc) a week and an amount of work hardly worth mentioning. It turned from 3-5 hours of hard work to 1-2 hours of hardly work.
@MRCKify
@MRCKify 2 года назад
Have you looked at William Nordhouse's estimates of the workhours necessary to get the equivalent of one hour of 60w light over history? The man bought and restoresd millennia-old antique to make sure he got solid numbers.
@gmshadowtraders
@gmshadowtraders Год назад
Let's get this to 100k views family!
@Vicioussama
@Vicioussama 2 года назад
CGP Grey's Human's Need Not Apply comes to mind.
@Emperor_Oshron
@Emperor_Oshron Год назад
...what the hell kind of automated checkouts are you using that you need to type in a specific code for it? all the ones i've seen and used have a barcode scanner.
@vengefulhero
@vengefulhero 2 года назад
Damn. Half way into the video and I already had my robo sous chef wish shot down…
@boonami5105
@boonami5105 2 года назад
"You use the WRONG CODE for produce?!" I gasped in mock horror, eager to turn attention away from my own quality of stealing produce entirely.
@colinmetzger6755
@colinmetzger6755 2 года назад
Why memorize anything more than 4011? You think I have time to look down and check what the code is on avacado? What do you think I am, a robot?
@boonami5105
@boonami5105 2 года назад
@@colinmetzger6755 you get it! it must be free then!
@matf6661
@matf6661 2 года назад
The problem is that the "fruits of automation" are not evenly distributed to people in the society. The profits just enrich the already rich business owners while the low-end workers face unemployment and poverty. Automation should mean shorter weeks and more paid time off, not job losses and destitution.
@garretthildebrandt428
@garretthildebrandt428 Год назад
I like the Star Trek take on automation. They work alongside it, and don't allow themselves to be overtaken by it. They develop alongside the machines. And thus, their humanistic philosophy is even more pronounced and acted upon. People still work, Star Trek is essentially an office show in space, but their work is meant to pursue higher aims. They don't need to work to live, everyone's got a replicator. But with that taken care of, they now pursue purpose, rather than mere survival.
@rachumsmcone9184
@rachumsmcone9184 2 года назад
It'll change some labor for sure. Pretty sure restaurants and retailers will still be on the same optimisation of sales hours close to 365 days a year that they do now.
@christopherchilton-smith6482
@christopherchilton-smith6482 2 года назад
00:44 God I hope so cause we are ... mishandling the situation.
@stevenboelke6661
@stevenboelke6661 2 года назад
Everything depends on social and economic policy. Whether it's a hell hole or a paradise depends on those in charge. The economic stagnation experienced in the US *might* have something to do with the fact that most of us are struggling to survive, let alone consume.
@joenathan8059
@joenathan8059 2 года назад
This will hurt workers rights even more because the little humans that are needed for the job are gonna be in stiff competition for those positions.Causing bosses to manipulate them even more or threatening them more
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