Avengers budgets is already high as hell. Everything ain't cgi so a lot of the movie can be just a movie no special effects all that extra be throwing the movies off
The story of Avengers Doomsday is that the Incursion opens between two of the most important universes, Earth-616, the main MCU Universe, as well as Earth-10005, home of the mutants including the X-Men, forcing the two most important superheroes from the separate universes to battle for the fate of their two respective worlds. With so many lives at stake, there's no time for the two iconic teams to play nice during the big Multiversal crossover. The Avengers Doomsday will be also had the new main villain in the MCU and the most famous villain would be none other than Dr. Victor Von Doom as the main villain in Avengers Doomsday and he'll be taking Kang the Conqueror's place in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The Avengers Doomsday would be like the mixed movie version of Captain America Civil War, Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame where two heroes fighting each other and they battle Thanos in Infinity War and Endgame. Avengers Doomsday would be like the Avengers vs X-Men Multiversal crossover movie and the movie itself would also featured the Fantastic Four, who are willing to end the Multiversal fight and get the two most iconic teams to get along and stop Doom from making Battleworld, a Multiversal planet from each of the destroyed universes from the Incursions. I can't wait to see the MCU Avengers Doomsday and Secret Wars!!!
They need to explain that Kang could be a descendant of Doom or Mr. Fantastic and how he used Doom’s old time travel tech and he was inspired by Doom’s armor and made his own suit. They also needed a Kang and Apocalypse Egypt connection, that would have been fire.
@@kevingrimes5403I wish Marvel would make new supervillain team called the Injustice Society of Evil, the made up team of super villains of Doctor Doom, Thanos, Ultron, Kang the Conqueror and Loki. The Injustice Society would be more dangerous and more evil and aggressive than the Frightful Four and the infamous Sinister Six. I think Doctor Doom should be the leader of the Injustice Society because he's the most important and brilliant supervillain in the Marvel Universe.
I remember there were rumors of a "DOOM" series or Special Presentation a couple of years back. Sound like some of the ground work for this is traceable to back then
It's almost certainly a version of Tony Stark from another universe being controlled by the real Doom, likely on purpose to manipulate and emotionally damage existing heroes like Tom Holland's Spider Man. The true reveal will be when he takes off the mask and Peter Parker says "Mr. Stark?!" showing the audience that folks in the movie recognize him as Tony, meaning the real Doom must be someone else.
I hope they do Dooms backstory like they did for Thanos in Infinity War that would be cool if they did that route and I really want both Doomsday and Secret Wars to be long movies because of the amount of characters that are going to be in both movies and have enough screen time for all the characters to shine and make the scenes make sense I trust the Russo Bros and Kevin Feige they need to take their time on these movies for them to be the greatest of all time and shatter box office records. I really do like the idea of having Doom as a post credit scene in Fantastic four First Steps that makes a lot of sense
I think Avengers Doomsday should tell us this, Dr. Doom's backstory. I think they should have it end with the multiverse beginning to fall apart and beginning to be destroyed. It should happen by doom taking out loki or with doom taking out molecule man. The movie should lead into an Avengers vs. x-men movie. Then that leads into the final in secret wars. Favorite Hero: Batman
Infinity War was also heavily focused on Thanos and with the Avengers losing in Doomsday as well it's basically a bigger version of Infinity War in every way
I am shocked that I completely saw this coming. I literally was talking to my friends the other day about how I think Doomsday will literally be more about Doom than the Avengers fighting Doom. Also the video you made about Dr. Strange 3, where you said it will look as if Doom is a protagonist for some time while Strange will look like an antagonist also fueled this for me.
Bring Back Jonathan Majors as Kang The Conqueror in the MCU, Let him Continue to play Kang, Councils of Kangs Again and Let him to be part of Both Avengers Films. Avengers Doomsday, Avengers Secret Wars “ I Really Miss Jonathan Majors as Kang in the MCU.”
Majors’ contract included a term that stated no one else could be recast as kang. Majors placed that in the contract so he kinda shot himself in the foot .
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A fuller focus on the Antagonist, especially being Doom, with a hopeful allowance of some multiple movies cross-coverage, difficult as that would seem, is the only way that Victor Von Doom, as well as the Overarching Storyline with all that he must actualize, can ever be done correctly.
That’s really what I’ve been hoping for. Would love to have a movie with a key villain like Doom to basically get his own origin movie. I think this would help with the story as well as getting everyone attached to the character.
I’m really curious about how they’ll build up Doom's backstory. His lore is so deep-magic, science, and world domination. This could easily be the most complex villain we’ve seen since Thanos! Also, I love that they’re giving Doom the proper setup he deserves. You can’t rush a character as iconic as him, especially since many casual fans might not be familiar with his history.
It's a very good thing to focus and give us more screentime with Victor, because if they really are going to be done with him after this phase (whether he dies or not) and we won't see him anymore or almost not at all, it's indeed better to spend a lot of time with him.
I'm fine with it either way. And I do hope before we get Doomsday and Secret Wars, Dr. Doom should be in Fantastic Four: First Steps, Tom Holland's Spider-Man 4 as cameos and some others. Can't wait and love the MCU!!!
Is it just me or in the Collider Interview today did Joe and Anthony Russo talk way too much about Anchor beings and hinting that Tony was the 6161 Earth anchor being 😭😭😭
I’ve been following a doomsday story that’s pretty much telling how the movie comes possibly play out. It’s very interesting. Mister Screen is the Channel
He has to stop … there is no way no one has told him please someone tell my boy how to pronounce these words…Val-a-reeyah and ada-mint-tium are the most egregious of sins 😢😂
Mads Mikkelsen would’ve been THE BEST Doom. Incredible actor, great with “darker” roles, well spoken with a unique accent/way of speaking and he can be so intimidating on screen! I honestly believe it’s a shame that they brought RDJ back as Doom, they easily could’ve brought him back as another Tony Stark variant in Secret Wars if they wanted him back so badly.
While I'm not a fan of not focusing on the Avengers or little, I understand. Still maintain the whole Spidey/Doom angle is definitely being used. No way they wouldn't take advantage of that.
My marvel timeline: All numbered content is the MCU/sacred timeline. Those are the movies, shows and shorts that you want to watch in order. Anything marked with a “•” is additional/optional content for the advanced fan. The key to the symbols are located at the bottom of the list. the infinity saga is loopers and the following sagas are all me --infinity saga-- 1. Iron man 2.iron man 2 3.Incredible Hulk 4. The consultant (*marvel one shot) 5. Funny thing happened (*) 6. Thor 7. Capt. America 8. Agent Carter (*) •[@-Agent Carter] 9. Avengers 10. Item 47 (*) •[%-Cloak and dagger] •[@-Defenders saga] 11. Capt. America & winter soldier 12. Thor: dark world •[A@-Agents of shield S1:E8] •[A@-AOS S1:E1-5] 13. Iron man 3 •[A@-AOS S1:E6] 14. All hail the king (*) 15. Guardians of the galaxy 16. Avengers: age of ultron •[A@-AOS S1:E9] 17. Ant man •[A@-AOS S1:E7] 18. Capt. America: civil war •[A@-AOS S1:E10-11] 19. Black panther 20. Spider man: homecoming 21. Guardians of the galaxy 2 22. Dr. Strange 23. Thor: ragnarok 24. Infinity war 25. Ant man & the wasp 26. Capt. Marvel 27. Endgame ---after tony saga--- 28. Spider man: far from home 29. Thor: love and thunder 30. Falcon and the winter soldier 31. Black widow 32. Hawkeye 33. Guardians of the galaxy: xmas special 34. Guardians of the galaxy 3 35. Echo 36. Shang-chi 37. She hulk 38. Wakanda forever 39. Secret invasion 40. Moon knight 41. Werewolf by night 42. Wandavision --multiverse saga-- 43. Loki S1 44. What if S:1 45. Quantumania 46. Loki S:2 47. What if S:2 48. Madame web ($-Sonyverse) 49. Venom ($) 50. Into the spider verse ($) 51. Venom 2 ($) •[%-Spider man 1-3] •[%-Amazing Spider Man 1-2] 52. Spider man: no way home 53. Morbius ($) 54. Dr. Strange: multiverse of madness 55. Across the spider verse ($) 56. Ms. Marvel 57. The marvels •[@-X-men 96] 58. X-men 97 •[%-Fox X-men saga] 59. Deadpool 60. Deadpool 2 •[%-Fox Daredevil] •[%-Elektra] •[%-Fox Punisher] •[%-Fox Fantastic 4 (C. Evans version)] •[%-Rise of the silver surfer] •[%-Blade Trilogy] 61. Wolverine and Deadpool 62. Agatha all along 64. The eternals 65. Capt. America: brave new world(€) 66. Thunderbolts(€) I included Deadpool Into the mcu timeline because he is now a part of the mcu and his three movies add to the continuity of the timeline. I recently added the defenders, fox-verse, and agent Carter as accompanying sagas; to the main timeline. I will add AOS, as soon as I can figure out when those episodes take place. Maybe even…the inhumans, legion and the runaways? The new mutants does not fit in the list. I just watched it and I can’t find any references to the list. Unreleased content as of 10/16/24: 1. Thunderbolts(€) 2. Capt. America: brave new world(€) 3.Blade 4.Fantastic 4 5.Avengers Doomsday 6.Avengers Secret wars 7.Daredevil born again 8.Ironheart 9.Venom: The last dance 10Your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man 11.Marvel zombies 12.Kraven 13.eyes of wakanda 14.Xmen97 S:2 15.What if… S:3 16.Wonder man 17.Spider-man Noir 18.Dr strange 3 €-from the looks of it, these two movies may continue where the eternals left off. We just have to wait and see (update: the eternals is the build up to CA brave new world and Thunderbolts so I placed it after Deadpool and Wolverine). @-stand-alone sagas that are seperate, but still contribute to the continuity of the sacred timeline. %-included for the hell of it. You don’t have to watch the fox movies, but it kinda adds to the WADP and SMNWH cameos. Separately, I also included Cloak and dagger under this category because it mentions Luke Cage and Misty. A-Agents of shield episodes that precede and/or proceed main events in the main MCU timeline Let me know what you think and enjoy the list! P.S. Madam web is trash. I put it there because it introduces the web of events, and opens up the 616 to the Sonyverse; post what if…S:2. May god have mercy on the souls of the people that made this movie.
That would mean "our Thanos" would be from the future since Doomsday hasn't happened yet. Besides, it was already clarified that Thanos knew of Tony Stark because he was the one that stopped the invasion of New York by flying the missile into the wormhole in the first Avengers movie.
I think Dr Doom will be the lead and the main character of Avengers Doomsday, then Tobey Maguire's Spiderman and Hugh Jackman's Wolverine will be the leads of Secret wars
I originally thought that secret wars would be bigger than the Kang Dynasty but now since RDJ is playing Dr. doom, I do think that doomsday would be bigger than secret wars. I also think that Robert Downey Jr. will return as a Tony Stark variant
I was shocked i didn't see it coming, having RDJ being there for so long means they are definitely going to put alot of work and story telling that's great, thanos and dr doom collaborating would be incredible, i really like this because im not completely in the know of who dr doom this will help myself and everyone be caught up
@@iamquasimoto4056 I've been on the marvel train since before it was cool. Watch out lil man. But nah think about it. Say you were watching the avengers movies with someone who hasn't seen them. They'd be asking lots of questions. That's just reality
8:18 Same plot as BATMAN '89, which is damn near a retelling of MACBETH. The Joker was the main character and "tragic hero" of that film. He took up 80% of the film. Batman was his MacDuff. So, the Avengers are going to be supporting characters in their own movie.
Im still shocked how they pulled off Avengers Infinity War. So well. After a while I'm starting to think Robert Downey Jr will do good with the role and the teams reactions to seeing Tonys familiar face.
I still maintain that the pivot away from Kang is the biggest mistake. They panicked and slipped. If they had stayed the course, Kang Dynasty would've been epic. Now, even with RDJ - I'm just let down. I was getting invested in Kang. The narrative threads given in Loki, Ant-Man, and other (future) projects were starting to craft a beautiful set of narratives that would have launched us seamlessly into Kang Dynasty much like the infinity stones into Infinity War.
Dont let speculation become expectation. Dont buy any "leak" unless a reputable trade confirms it. Be media literate people. Lastly. As someone who works in the industry. So many things said in this "leak" dont add up with how things normally work in a production.
Marvel Comics should make the new supervillain called the Injustice Society of Evil, the made up team of Doctor Doom, Thanos, Ultron, Kang the Conqueror and Loki because I think they are my favorite iconic Marvel super villains in the Marvel Universe and I think the Injustice Society would be more dangerous and aggressive than the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, the Frightful Four and the infamous Sinister Six.
It could just be a doom origin movie showing his life in the fantastic four universe preparing finding out about incursions Loki etc then showing he persuaded reed to leave to the 616 universe so he could find Loki so he can take his power only to find the avengers and have it end with him wiping em out forcing Loki out
He didnt die though, he dusted away remember (tom H) Spider-Man said dr strange said its been 5years we gotta go they were still alive but had no concept of time they were stuck in time in another dimension stuck when they were snapped back they came back to where they were in that moment of time, so i have a feeling IF they werent dead and just gone maybe mistress death in Agatha brings back Thanos because yknow he cant die in the comics
My feeling is if Thanos comes back then Tony snapping his fingers is all for not. If they were going to do this I think they should have brought RDJ back as Tony/Ironman from a different time. They could pull that off.
Either Phase 6 needs to be extended. Or Phase 7 needs to come about to finish the multiverse saga. RDJ Doom doesn’t deserve to be introduced and defeated in the same phase. No matter how many films they stuff him into with cameos. Doomsday needs to be a film about Doom getting his plans together. Flesh out his character and his background. Ending that film with him knowing exactly what he needs to do. Then Secret Wars is us seeing him carry that out. As, truly, Secret Wars and Doom’s subsequent creation of Battleworld in that comic, needs to be the end of the film and thus be the equivalent of Thanos’s snap. The two films slated for after Secret Wars would be nice to see them be Young Avengers: Battleworld and/or X-Men. We truly need the mutants in the story before God Emperor Doom is taken down. I want to see a Multiverse Masters of Evil working under Doom: we could have Harry Styles do Kid Thanos to show their family resemblance, Famke Jansen can come back to be Dark Phoenix, Michael B Jordan for either a Celestial Killmonger or just a Killmonger with a celestial-like suit, James Spader returning as Ultron, and finally either Clea or Baron Mordo (they would each have their own division with Kid Thanos being the leader of the group, Dark Phoenix is in charge of cosmic affairs, Ultron with technology affairs, Killmonger there for pure strength, and Clea/Mordo for magical affairs
I have a huge question regarding Knull (ik its not the topic of this video, still), That is Knull going to be the only variant across the multiverse (like galactics in upcoming f4) Or He is going to present in every universe like in comic & like Thanos means normal? & if its the only variant present in multiverse... Then how the head of the celestial head is present in mcu timeline? & in other timeline like the timeline marvel showed in what if, they all have that celestial's head present means we all know, knull only battle once against all celestial in one particular time-line & cut the head & killed one celestial... but then if its only 1 variant across the multiverse, then how on marvel, every universe is having a cut head of an celestial? & plus how Gorr got the sword? & If every timeline have a knull, then that's means mcu timeline is already having one Knull right? Coz Gorr literally had The Sword & plus the head of the dead celestial present properly... then when the knull is going to get in mcu timeline... there will be two knull right? Coz mcu's knull Isn't dead at all...
Yea but thanks didn’t need much set up compared to Doom so hopefully he gets a lot more than thanks even. And thanos putting on a glove in an end credits scene is not actually setting up him 😂 people are like, thanos was set up for 8 years lol like, BARELY. It was almost entirely done in infinity war, including his motivation.
I think that's kind of a misleading way to characterize Thanos' screentime. He had about 29 total minutes in IW, while the rest of the main characters had a total of 130m, and nearly all of Thanos' scenes were with an Avenger I'd other hero. And almost all of those were fighting. With the exception of the opening scene, very few of his scenes had anything resembling character development. Unless you count fighting, and I don't. If anything, Thanos had more real character development in Endgame.
Why? Tom holland is awful as spiderman. His dialogue and personality are lacking anything resembling Peter Parker. You just want the idea of spider man and this overrated hope of seeing starks face and Peter seeing each other. Spider man has been a joke in the mcu. I think you need to desire a better spiderman first
@WawaMarvel shush. Everyone is allowed to have their opinion without being talked down to. Tom Holland is decent, y'all "spider-man fans" are about as toxic as Chernobyl, for God's sake! It's just "cool" to shit on stuff that didn't play a part in your childhood. You feed off of nostalgia, yearning to feel young and full of energy again, but new stuff makes you feel old, and you don't like feeling old, so you refuse to see any of the good parts, only choosing to see the bad parts so that you feel justified in your relentless insulting of new things.
