I don't think so. What he said is accurate. Chinese Brands haven't been here for very long and just look at how Chinese Brands make cell phones. They don't make money because they make phones that last, rather they make phones that break so that you buy a new one. Yes, it is cheap, but when you realize it, the amount you will spend for replacing phones each year could have been a high-end Korean or Japanese phone when you add them up not to mention the features and quality overall. It is so obvious that no honest reviews can be seen about them despite Chinese Cars being new to the market because they are paying these influencers to be quiet. Chinese people have money. And they are using every bit of it wisely.
In 30 years of driving I had a GTI 5, Audi A3, all the Suzuki Swift Sports models, a Renault Megane, C-Class Merc, Ford Ranger and now a Chery Tiggo 4 Pro. I have received bad service from a few of those companies. None so far from Chery. Excellent vehicle. Check where most stuff that you own are manufactured.
in 30 years I have used 90 Mitsubishi Galant, 94 Toyota Corolla, 96 Mercedes C Class, 2002 Mercedes E Class, 2010 Mercedes C Class, 2015 Mitsubishi Pajero, 2018 Toyota Fortuner, 2022 Wuling Cortez. Wuling has surprised me with their excellent quality and great service
Three of my friends had BMWs completely self destruct months after finishing the payments. I had a gorgeous 3 series that performed with nothing but poise and composure since I got it in 2015. Not even a year after I finished the payments, several systems started twerking, I decided to bow out when the engine started taking me to the shop on the monthly. They design these things to fail to keep you going back. I drive a Haval now and the price just puts a smile to my face. Even if it disintegrates in the next few years, it won’t be worse than what BMW did to me at more than twice the price for a quarter of the equipment/features
My friend, you're totally right. The same happened with my friends' BMWs and with mine too! As soon as it's out of warranty, everything starts going banana. A sensor here, a sensor there, something here, something there. I was at the mechanic every 2-3 weeks. Now driving a used Suzuki Vitara from 2021 at a quarter of the price of a used BMW 3 series of 2018! And it's been a year so far and only had to pay for the maintenance. And it's still under warranty (7 years warranty on Suzuki here) while BMW gives only 3-5 years...
That philosophy from the Japanese was then. And now the difference between a Chinese car and and a Mercedes is mostly the price. In fact a good 90% if not more of the parts are made in china anyways 🤣🤣🤣. You have about the same guarantee. When I buy a car for 120K and a Chinese for 35K and get the same guarantee, what’s the difference other than the name? Ok maybe some extra performance for that 120K but for what? Do I really need to drive more than 200km/Hr?
@@eksk99 Come to Cambodia, if you don't see a prius 2004 -2012 or a camry from 1998 - 2008 within 5 minutes, than you can consider my statement as a rumor too.
Have my Haval now for 85,000km. Experienced absolutely no problems. My next brand will probably be another Chinese car. By the way, children must buy their own car.
I own haval jolion now for 2 years .. and still njoying it .... you are talking abt nxt 20 years wen you can't even guarantee that u will live the nxt day ... so wat ever days you live ... njoy it in a hightech car ... Live and njoy in the present ... instead of listening to some stupid Japanese philosophy 😂😂😂😂😂
As a South African I am feeling very sorry to here a South African saying these words while our country don’t even have something look like UNO or TATA to be a South African car brand,in country where everything are imported.all I am saying let work on our selves first . One day we wants to here people saying “avoid South African cars at all cost “that will be meaning we are doing good because that what jealousy people does speak bed with other while he or she is not capable to do what you did
As a South African, I’m sure you know about Fong Kongs. Well, Chinese cars are hastily developed low quality Fong Kongs. But unlike cheap low quality everyday products from China, they are very expensive. Cars from China are a very risky purchase because you don’t know what you’re getting. That’s why Japanese cars are the only great choice for our 3rd world country.
What you're saying about Chinese cars is technically also true for the European manufacturers; as the previous owner of an Audi A4 and the current owner of a Mercedes CLS, even the best German cars last for only around 100,000km. After that you'll need your engine and gearbox swapped. Plus a whole bunch of sensors, pumps, control units and so on. I speak of experience.
@@secrets.295 I agree. In retrospect I should have bought something Japanese or Korean, they tend to last longer in general. Better build quality really.
@@alexeishayya-shirokov3603 You are right about that. However I don't think 100k mileage is a bad car. The truth is nobody can build cars as well as the Japanese can. I never had a Korean car but from my friends review it isn't as good as the Japanese cars either.
@@secrets.295 Yeah the Japanese are the best, especially Toyota, Honda and Mazda. The Koreans aren't bad either. I think the reason German cars have a reputation for reliability is because they made excellent cars in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, but they ended up sacrificing build quality for performance and efficiency by the 2000s. Now their cars fall apart after 100k km even if you service them properly, while a Toyota can last almost indefinitely provided you keep an eye on it.
Competition means other companies that may have higher quality cars are forced to lower their prices. Geely for example is a car made my geely in collaboration with Renault. And other EU countries. Cheaper than the competition but loaded with everything. Like sensors, cameras, blindside sensors, 360 camera etc. Without the extra payment. As I said. Competition between car manufacturers helps everyone.
Is that why Renaults are so shit? And it was the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance to blame. The Chinese automaker industry is bootstrapped by the regime. Most models are copy paste from European automakers to Cheaper Chinese versions. Genius really, except execution is also key. Quality matters and some Chinese automakers struggle with quality control whilst rushing to production. A small research team that makes design decisions to improve quality, reliability and efficiency. Performance they have, it’s the transmission and electronic which are the problem. Why put a DCT in an SUV? Watch all my videos, see for yourself.
who decided that this is their philosopy? you? how are you qualified to make that judgment? are you an engineer, a mechanic? no? so why should anyone listen to such conjectures?
That doesn't match with their promises of 6 year warranty and 200km.. just saw an ad for betsune 2024 with these promises and a very attractive price... How to pass? Very tempting.
You're trying to influence people to buy Japanese cars but the truth is Chinese cars especially Haval are very reliable and strong. Haval brand started around 2018 in S.A but to date nobody's complaining. If you check the Haval 2018 H2 and H6, their depreciation rate is very low and the resale value is pretty much higher than it's competitors. The Chinese are doing a stellar job with these cars.
If you can afford better cars, you would buy one already. There are crappy Chinese cars and there are great Chinese cars, you buy what you can afford. Don’t blame the manufacturer for you being poor
you're right brother, I think the few car manufacturer which is describe best and good quality have the factory or start assembly from world war I, so they have so many knowledge and experience to build a cars
Not so necessarily true. Chinese cars however are rather impressive rather than superb. You got to be aware that some Japanese (branded) cars are actually made or assembled else where. Thai assembled (or made) Japanese (branded) cars are rather good but I'm not so sure about Indian made Suzuki's. All I'm saying don't let the badge fool you.
I don’t know where this come from. If the Chinese car are easily to break down comparable to American cars. Why do we have to worry about them importing into our country?
I have a Havar h9 for 4 years and about 110k km mileage, there’s no issue with it. Only one time I take back my car to repair shop,is there’s a small rock snap between brake rotor and plate,which cause a lot of noice.
Got the Haval Jolion just an amazing piece of machinery and I just ordered the Haval h6 HEV which also looks amazing. The same thing used to be said about Korean cars at one time and now look. Times are changing
The thing is... Japanese cars nowadays are not so much different from Chinese cars. All these sophisticated features can malfunction or be damaged at any chance. If your concern is after sales service, that should be your service network issue, not the car itself. You should request the brand to invest in your country so that they can build the car in your country instead of importing it in CBU. That should help the scarcity of the spare parts.
Untrue but okay. Japanese cars are simple in mechanics. Japanese manufacturers use proven simple engines and gearboxes whereas the Chinese are using Dual Clutch Gearboxes and Turbocharged engines. That’s the difference. I mean why do you need a Dual Clutch in a Haval Jolion?
I am all for domestic cars but they should cost cheaper than Foreign brands. Isnt it?? If not cheaper should be of same price. So stop fooling consumers in name of patriotism. Multi billion corporates should afford patriotism more than hard working minimum wage earner.
I don't know what you on about. I have a Haval H2 with 152 000kms with no issues. I have never waited for parts. My car is serviced every 15 000kms. Get your facts straight
That philosophy was once true for phone, like nokia 3310, you buy for forever.. that doesn't apply today anymore.. same as car.. same specs car cost one third more doesn't make any sense if I can't afford..
My 5 year old AlfA almost went up in smoke.. the fuel line runs above the exhaust. When it leaks, it will catch fire. The solution given by ar salesman is to carry a extinguisher🧯..😂
Absolutely zero facts provided here. I was so looking forward to why I've been told to avoid them coz for some reason no one has a good enough reason for why i shouldn't buy one.
Why not buy a new car for your children if they cost the same money in total than you buy just one expensive Japanese car? If you buy a cheap styled Japanese car, I doubt if it can run for 20 years .
Reality VS perception: remarketing risk you will battle to get a reasonable price after even 1 year of ownership chances are you will need to hang onto it longer.
Made a car that will last twenty years WAS a twenty year ago thing. Aint no manufacturer gonna make that no more. How you think they gonna make money that way?
Man you make people angry every customer got their own choice don't tell them what to do with their money, cars are very expensive we go for affordability and technology with cheaper price. 😂😂
That’s because someone bought it at a very high price new and the depreciation killed it. The market doesn’t trust Chinese cars hence the rapid depreciation.
It is very obvious that most Chinese manufacturing philosophy is "sell as much of you can". This is very common back in the days when Chinese like to copy and produce counterfeit or imitation product. And still there are doing it today. However, i still keep my eyes on the high-end products like cars that Chinese has been able to produce remarkably very fast . Although impressed im still skeptical. I rather wait one two years to see consumer/owner review before buying
Rubbish… I’ve recently bought my first Chinese car (Haval) after always buying BMW, Audi, Mercedes ..and I can honestly say it’s brilliant..had it 8 months and 12,000kms and it hasn’t missed a beat or cost me a penny.. makes me smile everyday, great car
