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AVS-36: The First Soviet Infantry Battle Rifle 

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The AVS-36 was the first self-loading rifle adopted by the Soviet Union to be a standard infantry rifle, and it was not just semiautomatic, but also capable of fully automatic fire. Designed by Sergei Simonov over the course of about ten years, it would only last a short time in service before being replaced by the Tokarev SVT-38 and then SVT-40.
The AVS-36 uses a short stroke gas piston system that remains popular to this day, and a quite unusual locking system incorporating two asymmetrical locking flaps and a vertically traveling locking block. It is striker fired, with semi and full auto selector positions and a 15-round detachable magazine (plus stripper clip guide). In total, 65,800 were made between 1934 and 1940, with true mass production beginning in 1937.
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@rad666a
@rad666a 5 лет назад
I would just like to say thank you to the owners of these firearms for allowing Ian to dismantle them for our viewing pleasure.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 5 лет назад
Me too, but it might add value to the weapon...As seen on Forgotten Weapons.
@acewolfgang276
@acewolfgang276 5 лет назад
@Mocking goat that's because giving Ian a gun is like giving jesus one of your stuff. It makes it worth 10x more.
@AllAboutMiims
@AllAboutMiims 4 года назад
The real MVP (apart from Ian) because letting someone take apart your *extremely rare & valuable* gun, is not something you don't worry over.
@borisdorofeev5602
@borisdorofeev5602 3 года назад
It's like letting your hot wife strip in front of a camera.
@hasanfoyejul5500
@hasanfoyejul5500 3 года назад
@@acewolfgang276 with all due respect dear "no one should call someone JESUS ! ধন্যবাদ... thanks
@den2k885
@den2k885 5 лет назад
This gun is brilliant. It was a select fire full powered battle rifle holding 15 rounds - basically the M14 25 years early. It is surprisingly easy to field strip without tools, better than some modern guns. This is truly amazing.
@kardsufur2966
@kardsufur2966 4 года назад
there are some games like Heroes & Generals ww2 where the avs-36 is by far the most powerful and superior gun on the soviet side which all players use :)
@howdoyouturnthison7827
@howdoyouturnthison7827 3 года назад
@@kardsufur2966 It is equivalent of mkb 42 in Red orchestra 2.
@mikec8086
@mikec8086 2 года назад
@@howdoyouturnthison7827 thats the avt40 in ro2
@daniels0376
@daniels0376 2 года назад
@@kardsufur2966 Video games don't portray the downsights of this rifle. You don't see how expensive it was to produce, you don't see how often it would break down, you don't see the higher resources which had to be put into a conscript army to train them for such a system. Besides in video games full auto rifles are great because it takes 2-3 shots to kill an enemy and the full auto delivers that more quickly. IRL it usually was 1 shot one kill with those high calibers and no body armor.
@josephahner3031
@josephahner3031 2 года назад
@@daniels0376 not as much as you'd think, the lethality of rifle fire depends on shot placement just like today. More powerful rounds will do more damage and be more likely to rupture internal organs but it's not a guaranteed kill.
@karas3248
@karas3248 5 лет назад
You can see the roots of the sks in that rifle
@charaznable2379
@charaznable2379 5 лет назад
kazotzky kicks with Samozaryadny Karabin sistemy Simonova, 1945.Embracing m59 cross armed while bayonet extended .
@rifles_up2263
@rifles_up2263 5 лет назад
Definitely!!
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 5 лет назад
If you forget that SKS is just scaled down PTRS... yes, there some similarities. It also has barrel, trigger and stock for example:P
@wewd
@wewd 5 лет назад
@@TheArklyte Simonov made all those rifles, so the similarity is inherent in them as in Kalashnikov's many similar designs.
@gunnerr8476
@gunnerr8476 5 лет назад
Same designer made the SKS
@skyflier8955
@skyflier8955 5 лет назад
Is anyone else amazed by how incredibly clever these mechanisms are?
@phillgizmo8934
@phillgizmo8934 5 лет назад
Yes.
@ihcfn
@ihcfn 4 года назад
Must have had swiss/german ancestry :-D
@Irregular_John
@Irregular_John 4 года назад
lost and confused your RU-vid handle describes you to a T.
@keithsimpson2685
@keithsimpson2685 3 года назад
@@Irregular_John People like to suck off German/Japanese engineering because it enforces their weird idea that nations have a specific character. Really it's probably just they have better consumer protections lol.
@gregdaweson4657
@gregdaweson4657 3 года назад
@@Irregular_John lmao
@PhotoshopShopCS6
@PhotoshopShopCS6 5 лет назад
If you knocked hard enough at the wood, you could still hear the "Uraaaaaa" in it.
@seventhsonofaseventhson.6559
@seventhsonofaseventhson.6559 5 лет назад
No, you hear the screams of the starving soviet civilians when when you tap this rifle.
@Mr1234d
@Mr1234d 5 лет назад
William Randall r/wooosh
@BigBoiBleu
@BigBoiBleu 5 лет назад
@@seventhsonofaseventhson.6559 I hear homeless veterans when I tap an AR15
@Foolishman1776
@Foolishman1776 5 лет назад
Urod?
@tristanholland6445
@tristanholland6445 5 лет назад
Why with all the political stuff? Geez this video is about a firearm it's design and operation.
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 5 лет назад
"The Russians just make crude and simple guns" _[shows them AVS-36]_
@dndboy13
@dndboy13 5 лет назад
an-94 b o i s
@Ray-lf1eo
@Ray-lf1eo 5 лет назад
Fedorov..
@wills2140
@wills2140 5 лет назад
How's your Fedorov working?
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 5 лет назад
@Soul Calibur neither were they simple. Look at Nagant revolver. So much fucking around just to get max power out of short 7.62 ammo. Why? Because they wanted to drill barrels on the same machinery as was used to make Mosins in different 7.62. And yet keep the cartridge short. Mosin itself is notoriously bad for being not any simpler or cheaper then SMLE or Kar98. And definitely much more expensive then MAS-36.
@abk4202020
@abk4202020 5 лет назад
@@dndboy13 an94 is the death of the AK
@djwoody1649
@djwoody1649 5 лет назад
"Names you've never heard of, like Resnov." Oohhhh we've all heard of him.
@forrestclark6069
@forrestclark6069 5 лет назад
my name... is VICTOR REZNOV
@willh.7755
@willh.7755 5 лет назад
And I will have my REVENGE
@alucardvigilatedismas2868
@alucardvigilatedismas2868 4 года назад
The numbers Mason, what do they mean!?
@ImYourIchigo
@ImYourIchigo 4 года назад
@@alucardvigilatedismas2868 that would be Hudson doing Math
@sumvs5992
@sumvs5992 4 года назад
I love how his name translates to "massacre" and we first meet him in the fountain. Just brilliant in my opinion.
@01ZombieMoses10
@01ZombieMoses10 5 лет назад
I find it really quite remarkable that even after the complete and total upheaval of the revolution and the following terrifying in-fighting, the brand new Soviet Union did not let grass grow under its feet. Despite whatever you may think about Russian culture and the state of their politics in any given era, you have to admire their ability to get on with pushing the envelope no matter how uncertain and dangerous the present may be.
@IceWolfLoki
@IceWolfLoki 5 лет назад
To be fair though one of the reasons that the revolution was able to take hold was because the failure of the Imperial Army during WW1 because they were poorly equipped and supplied had the Tsar been able to equip and supply his armies adequately it's likely morale would have been better and the situation not devolved into revolution or alternativly the Revoultion would have been easy to put down. I suspect the Soviets didn't want to see a repeat of those situations.
@Blazo_Djurovic
@Blazo_Djurovic 4 года назад
Well, one of the benefits of the revolution was that it swept away a lot of limitations due to class on who could do what. It still didn't mean anyone could advance everywhere, if your background was labeled as reactionary you'd have issues, but that applied to a much smaller segment of population. So in turn a LOT of junior engineers who weren't factory owners and like stayed and were studdenly given pretty much free reign to submit designs to central requests. Plus communists were REAAAALY interested in being or appearing modern, and breaking with the old traditions. So if something was something new that was looked at as a newfangled thing in the West, and Soviets could manufacture that (their main issues were manufacturing often not being up to snuff AND having gaping holes in theoretical side given that a lot of academy people fled) they were fiddling with it a LOT during 20s and early 30s.
@CharlesGaines
@CharlesGaines 4 года назад
People were pumped to be part of something new and probably pretty exciting.
@fkboyStalin
@fkboyStalin Год назад
Soviets were not only Russians.
@belakkale
@belakkale 5 лет назад
There was one more interesting feature - its bayonet had a position that allowed it to function as monopod. That was canceled on last period of production, as well as 20 round mags
@KonstaKokC
@KonstaKokC 5 лет назад
1936: Lets put a Bolt hold open to our new gun - ok, cool 2018: AK-12 accepted into service - ooh we don't need that
@sqeeye3102
@sqeeye3102 5 лет назад
@@quentintin1 It's more than just the quality of life upgrade of pushing a button, a bolt hold-open shows you when you are empty very clearly (instead of dropping the hammer on nothing) and also makes it easier to insert a fully loaded magazine. There are plenty of aftermarket solutions to the problem including AK pattern rifles made from the factory with bolt hold-opens integral to the rifle. It really is a stupid decision to not implement something so simple and useful into your new military rifle.
@sqike001ton
@sqike001ton 5 лет назад
@@sqeeye3102 true the bolt hold mags are good Hungarian or yugo ones I believe but you still have to run the bolt as when you drop the mag the bolt slams home
@konstantinavilov1192
@konstantinavilov1192 5 лет назад
As I think, the real reason for no bolt hold open in the final military version of AK-12 is that the army wanted full back-compatibility with stock AK-74 mags (which are stored in gazillions by the army). In fact, the final AK-12 is a reworked AK-74, unlike the first iteration of AK-12, which was a truly new and very progressive gun.
@80m63rM4n
@80m63rM4n 5 лет назад
Still crying over the AK-12 they killed.
@НиколайКокорин-к5я
@@sqeeye3102 I believe the reason behind "no bolt hold open device" is backward compatibility with millions of standart AK-74 mags in service. There is no way to replace it in foreseen future, so why bother with hold open? Plus many people don't push button, they just rack the bolt, even on ARs and pistols.
@danapatelzick594
@danapatelzick594 5 лет назад
These Russian designs are always interesting, the designers must have paid attention in their physics classes. The axis of the barrel on this rifle looks to be just slightly above the point of contact on the shoulder. The Garand's barrel position was in the more classic position where the barrel length provided the most accurate location for iron sights. Pretty cool.
@MasterOfHelium
@MasterOfHelium 5 лет назад
It is curious to know that Simonov was the apprentice of Fedorov. because this gun actually shows it, both from the outside aesthetically and some of the inner shapes and mechanics too!
@davidkohler7454
@davidkohler7454 3 года назад
This is a work of art in gunsmithing.all of the Geometry involved is just crazy. It's obvious that more things were discovered and then simplified. But they really put a lot of good effort into this weapon. All of the metal dovetailing and machinework is amazing. I can really appreciate this one .
@МихаилСабанцев-б9ц
This is a Russian school, which is unique in that each designer adds something different. There is no task to make a commercial profit from the project, there is a goal, to give the army a cheap, convenient, reliable weapon. In the selection process, the final product gets the best items. When developing the Famous SVD rifle (Dragunov Rifle) Simnonov (ABC) also participated in the competition, it was not the best. As a result, he transferred all his achievements and experience to Dragunov. Dragunov developed only sports weapons (accurate but gentle). Ultimately, the Russian army received the best sample that is accurate and works as a "soldier", in the mud and cold. In its unique approach to the problem.
@MrMaxStalsky
@MrMaxStalsky 4 года назад
Михаил Сабанцев вот вам и сравнения двух экономических систем. Вот только я бы назвал это Советской школой. Именно при советской власти деньги ни значили почти ничего. Сейчас и при царях бабки считали еще как. Особенно это видно по первой мировой и по чеченским войнам.
@Irregular_John
@Irregular_John 4 года назад
Sarmax Полностью поддерживаю. Fully concur my Russian compatriot. The whole algorithm of how the weapons were built in USSR (without concern about profit limiting the end result) clearly demonstrates the difference between socialist/communist and capitalist socio-economic formations.
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 4 года назад
"In its unique approach to the problem." yea it is called in the free world "lie to the very end"... even only few years before USSR colapse this crapy system was promoted as the best by propaganda similar to the one that you provided here. Something so simple as bicycle was only a dream for most of the citizens when this country was producing millions of weponds similar to the one that we can see in the video so the Red Army can spread the comunistic revolution to all the countries where people was dreaming about cars as they was able to buy a bike... Golden Age for USSR was after WW2 when stealing from Central Europe started but it could not last forever. Even war reparation from Germany to Poland(the most destroyed country during that war) were stolen by "noble" USSR... that btw started this war hand by hand with Germany. Poland in sep 1939 was attacked by Germany and USSR not to mention that they agreed before the war started that USSR gonna end up with over 51% of the Polish territory!
@strahinjastevic7480
@strahinjastevic7480 3 года назад
@@Bialy_1 stfu
@vulekv93
@vulekv93 3 года назад
@@Bialy_1 Profits don't exclude patriotism. And that communistic system really failed. State would dictate what kind of shoes you can wear, what kind of food you can eat... It was insane.
@bengttolkis8646
@bengttolkis8646 5 лет назад
The "extra" flapper locks work as an out battery safety and they also double as an full auto sear, so they are quite essential for this type of locking, striker and sear combo.
@TacticalUniverse
@TacticalUniverse 5 лет назад
I would pay many many moneys for this gun....but... I don't have many many moneys.
@maximilienrobespierre7927
@maximilienrobespierre7927 5 лет назад
It is unfortunate when you only have little little moneys.
@elwayfan01
@elwayfan01 5 лет назад
Don't you hate it when you have 3 kids and no money, when you'd rather have no kids and 3 money?
@goldenislands8142
@goldenislands8142 5 лет назад
Est 18,000$-25,000$, current bid 12,000$. POCKET CHANGE! :P
@TheGearhead222
@TheGearhead222 5 лет назад
Could have bought an SVT-40 when they came in , but remember that they required a special tool for adjusting the gas system, which at the time was very hard to locate, although people began making repro's later. That plus they were relatively $ to me at the time and I discovered that they had other issues as mentioned. Still , a fascinating gun as a collectable shooter-the Germans thought enough of them that they used any example of this design that they found! Shot a friends SVT-40 and was impressed at how well the gas system dampened the recoil, plus the gun was just as accurate, IMHO, as a Mosin-Nagant 91-30--John in Texas
@leojampolsky3226
@leojampolsky3226 3 года назад
The numbers could represent different factories, that produced specific parts. It was a custom in USSR. We had a "Zhiguli" car, that the numbers on the parts were from different factories. You could buy a brand new bicycle, that was made in different republics of the soviet union.
@PlanetRibooted
@PlanetRibooted 5 лет назад
It’s really cool to see many of the elements carried through to the SKS, in this much earlier rifle.
@spinosaurusiii7027
@spinosaurusiii7027 Год назад
Yeah. From the AVS to the SVT, but then also to the PTRS, and from there to the SKS
@ivanhecimovic5272
@ivanhecimovic5272 5 лет назад
I have a picture of my grandfather with sniper verzion of this rifle
@nathan655555
@nathan655555 5 лет назад
Would love to see it
@ObsoleteVodka
@ObsoleteVodka 5 лет назад
You could scan it and upload it somewhere. Please share it with us if you do!
@Pajdas610
@Pajdas610 5 лет назад
Paški Sir dobro ime haha.
@justineallandevelos6491
@justineallandevelos6491 5 лет назад
But this rifle never went into service you must be referring to the SVT-40 with a scope?
@Random-os3md
@Random-os3md 5 лет назад
Justine allan Develos actually this gun went into service into 1940 and replaced by SVT 38 & 40
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 года назад
the whole dis and reassembly makes this thing a genius construction.
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 5 лет назад
great info as always
@SilverWolfM200LDH
@SilverWolfM200LDH 3 года назад
That's why I love this channel, I always learn something-I thought the Soviet's first infantry rifle was the SKS.
@FEDsShotMOM
@FEDsShotMOM 3 года назад
it blows my mind the interesting lives these designers lived. from being an armory extra hand/custodian, to being taken in my famous designers to eventually designing one of the most common weapons on the planet
@kyuzotatsuya9641
@kyuzotatsuya9641 4 года назад
I love how the trigger system works, it looks so complex disassembled but once you see it working its beautifully simple
@yurijsmislov2190
@yurijsmislov2190 5 лет назад
Как мало осталось рабочих образцов это винтовки и в таком хорошем состоянии. Спасибо за обзор.
@0115Heather
@0115Heather 5 лет назад
It looks like they took an sks, a mosin, and a tokarev; put them all together and then mixed in a little bit of lhati and a mini14.... Soviet weapons are always such cool looking machines as well. Thank you for the video and the history lesson.
@zanedeklerk
@zanedeklerk 5 лет назад
Ian you are such an angel for making these videos, without you a lot of firearms would go, well, forgotten. Very impressive that you upload everyday. I've been watching your videos for years and I think the way you have kept the quality high is very commendable.
@YugoslavGamer
@YugoslavGamer 5 лет назад
2:23 Reznov? Chernov! You walk.
@FL0D0S
@FL0D0S 5 лет назад
Apparently his design was so bad he got sent to a labour camp! Or maybe his number just came up?
@codystickler8779
@codystickler8779 3 года назад
I was rhinking the same thing hahah
@samuel88andrews
@samuel88andrews 5 лет назад
From my semester of Russian I believe its pronounced "See-mon-ov". My Russian history teacher, who's Russian also mentioned him in class pronouncing his name like that.
@Voldombo
@Voldombo 5 лет назад
Yes, this is correct pronunciation.
@galliman123
@galliman123 5 лет назад
Our crypto saviour
@samuel88andrews
@samuel88andrews 5 лет назад
@@galliman123 crypto?
@robleyusuf2566
@robleyusuf2566 5 лет назад
See-miyo-nov
@robleyusuf2566
@robleyusuf2566 5 лет назад
@@Voldombo no it is see-miyo-nov
@nicksande6880
@nicksande6880 5 лет назад
Reznov? A name we havent heard of? Cutting the jokes this rifle does look interesting
@galliman123
@galliman123 5 лет назад
VORKUTA
@justineallandevelos6491
@justineallandevelos6491 5 лет назад
Uraaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
@craigwarby2188
@craigwarby2188 5 лет назад
What a fantastic rifle. So much history right there. I’m from the UK, don’t own any guns, I love the history and engineering that is featured in every video that you create. Great work 👍🏼
@necrothitude
@necrothitude 5 лет назад
These detailed teardowns are absolutely fantastic! Seeing the mechanics and learning how different designs all evolved and were informed by each other is seriously fun.
@Arthurzeiro
@Arthurzeiro 5 лет назад
And yet the us took all that time to put a box magazine on the M1.
@baker90338
@baker90338 5 лет назад
They had to work trying to convert a M1 to use box mags until they flipped the table and re did the action
@thegoldencaulk2742
@thegoldencaulk2742 5 лет назад
And the Italians did it in a fraction of the time anyway with the BM-59. The M14 is a travesty.
@kennieminski7080
@kennieminski7080 5 лет назад
A travesty, really? The only mechanical problems I am aware of are the finicky rock and lock magazines and firing 308 in full auto from the shoulder. So what about the rifle would lower it to the level of 'travesty'? You can't really blame it's development time on the rifle itself that squarely lies on the American ordinance board being its usual derpy self.
@dylanwebb5199
@dylanwebb5199 5 лет назад
@@kennieminski7080 until you get a minute amount of dirt/sand/mud in that EXPOSED bolt. But other than that in semi auto it's a fine rifle.
@kennieminski7080
@kennieminski7080 5 лет назад
@@dylanwebb5199 So the m1 garand is a travesty as well then? Or the sks?
@belakkale
@belakkale 5 лет назад
and btw, this rifles first time saw action in 1939 in USSR-Japan conflict
@bigdogbourne
@bigdogbourne 5 лет назад
short video about Stryker fire vs hammer like your short stroke vs long stroke? just an idea. keep up great work.
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 3 года назад
when bringing up striker/hammer fired might as well throw in single/double action in the same round.
@Requeium
@Requeium 3 года назад
Not gonna lie for how early this rifle is some of this firearm is brilliant. I love some of the design directions Simonov took and it has some very slick ways of passing hurdles. From that floating seer bar the elevator locking block i love this firearm. Thanks ian again for a fantastic bit of educational engineering history!
@keenanmcbreen7073
@keenanmcbreen7073 5 лет назад
"OH! And it didnt hurt that Stalin knew Tokarev, and liked Tokarev." Minor detail lol
@sadwingsraging3044
@sadwingsraging3044 4 года назад
Not a chance it had any bearing on the final outcome. Coincidence I'm sure!
@Nightwindale
@Nightwindale 5 лет назад
I've waited for so long for this piece to appear, thanks Ian! Also, although you were already corrected by folks about pronunciation of "Simonov", i clearly remember that you got it right in some early videos (probably PTRS, don't remember for sure now).
@vii7031
@vii7031 5 лет назад
Are you planning on filming the PTRS rifle?
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 5 лет назад
When I find a suitable example, definitely
@AlASokolov
@AlASokolov 5 лет назад
@@ForgottenWeapons Can this AVS to shoot? Do you plan to shoting range?
@tristanholland6445
@tristanholland6445 5 лет назад
@@AlASokolov he did show a short clip of himself firing an AVS36 so I assume he has a fourth coming firing video. Posted a very short clip of himself firing an AVS on Facebook maybe a month ago
@TheGearhead222
@TheGearhead222 5 лет назад
Amazing that MARSTAR in Canada sold the PTRD and PTRS legally to the masses at one time in Canada!: forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?402149-PTRS-anti-tank-rifle Unfortunately, it looks like there are proposed laws to change classification of .50 and larger caliber ammo there-John in Texas
@nopenopenopenope194
@nopenopenopenope194 5 лет назад
I love these guns, the AVS-36, SVT-38 and SVT40. I own an SVT40 and it is art. It vertically strings shots but I still love it.
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus 4 года назад
That’s a clever but busy locking system. I expect it would give problems with dirt intrusion, but do so safely. The trigger design is also ingenious. There’s a lot going on inside there!
@user-wx3wc4bo7c
@user-wx3wc4bo7c 5 лет назад
When I still owned a SVT 40 that was a real commitment to clean after a day of shooting....
@johnmorgan1629
@johnmorgan1629 5 лет назад
So the screws a travel limiter, bit like British Prison Officer!
@diestormlie
@diestormlie 5 лет назад
I appreciate you.
@MrMaxStalsky
@MrMaxStalsky 4 года назад
I learned the word “akin” today thx to that amazing channel. It weird how much words are there that not every English native speaker knows. YT is the best English teacher ever.
@MrMaxStalsky
@MrMaxStalsky 4 года назад
why you pronounce it with A sounding like “R” bit without the “rrr”, not as a standard “A” (ei)? Its so damn weird in some cases to hear that clear “A” in English;)
@rickyracestrickland8927
@rickyracestrickland8927 2 года назад
As simplistic as the Russians like their weapons to be,I could never imagine them trying to MASS produce these rifles right smack in the middle of a war!!! Ian is right about it being a good example of early automatic weapons alright. It's unnecessary busy compared to the simpler weapons we see today. Especially Russian weapons. The "3 lock"locking system is unreal!!!! On the other hand....I wish someone with good milling knowledge would produce quality reproductions of weapons like these,or the G43,etc. There's not enough originals to go around for those of us highly interested in these old kind of guns.
@zupperm
@zupperm 5 лет назад
I always love when something is brilliantly simple and too complex at the same time.
@fp4592
@fp4592 5 лет назад
СССP on the stock has actualy "SSSR" pronounce: as Soyus Sovyetskih Sotsialisticheskih Respublic (USSR)
@Jari_Kuusisto
@Jari_Kuusisto 5 лет назад
Try to say that fast with a marshmallow in your mouth...
@drdnout
@drdnout 4 года назад
@@Jari_Kuusisto Tikkurilla!
@blago998
@blago998 4 года назад
@@Jari_Kuusisto easy
@neilshark6361
@neilshark6361 2 года назад
NASA : the Saturn 5 rocket is the most complex machine ever made. Sinminov : Hold my vodka...........
@Purpmaster
@Purpmaster 5 лет назад
My god this thing is complex. Would be a nightmare to disassemble in the field lol. Awesome gun, great video. 👍
@hoffmiermp
@hoffmiermp 2 года назад
Really interesting design with features still found on modern firearms.
@EchosTackyTiki
@EchosTackyTiki Год назад
Me: _I bet this gun was well liked, it was probably really controllable and a great shooter compared to other semiautomatic rifles in the market at the time like the RSC and the Farquhar-Hill._ Ian at 4:25: "This gun is actually select fire." Me: 😦
@ToriusHeart
@ToriusHeart Год назад
I mean, the A part of the AVS designation should have tipped you off that its a full auto rifle
@McDylanNuggets
@McDylanNuggets 5 лет назад
This one was great! With these were in 4K. I hope that's an upgrade coming to this channel soon!
@moehoward01
@moehoward01 5 лет назад
I can see why it was quickly replaced. A very expensive rifle to produce.
@Pheonixco
@Pheonixco 5 лет назад
"expensive"
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 5 лет назад
Not like the Tokarev rifles were significantly simpler/cheaper...
@2dollarchickenwings689
@2dollarchickenwings689 3 года назад
@@ScottKenny1978 They were, though. A lot less complex parts. Also, there isn't the issue of it's main point of interest having very situational use.
@Mikesman1000
@Mikesman1000 3 года назад
Looking on the AVS 36 and SVT 40, the "discovery" of AK was just around the corner, the DS Mg became DShk, and DP 27 later became RPD.
@CornishMoose
@CornishMoose 5 лет назад
That’s a pretty nice looking rifle!
@parrotraiser6541
@parrotraiser6541 5 лет назад
Ingeniously intricate. It's a pleasure watching Ian dismantle things.
@ComradeBenedict
@ComradeBenedict 4 года назад
Did RU-vid make a new rule about gun prices? I could've sworn that sale prices for auction guns used to be in the description, but I haven't seen a single one lately
@Redmenace96
@Redmenace96 3 года назад
I noticed that, too. We are all interested in prices.
@wilhelmklink3401
@wilhelmklink3401 4 года назад
I can only imagine how much that rifle will jump in full auto. I imagine most guys kept the gun in semi-automatic for the majority of its service life.
@joshualance6005
@joshualance6005 5 лет назад
The garand is still the first infantry wepon to be issued to every infantryman. The avs36 and svt38/40 were specialist wepons and never replaced the mosin nagant 1891
@ScottKenny1978
@ScottKenny1978 5 лет назад
The SVT38/40 were intended to replace the Mosin. But then Germany invaded and the Soviets needed all the guns they could get. And they did make 1.5million SVT40s! Not exactly specialist issue, all the Naval Infantry got them.
@joshualance6005
@joshualance6005 5 лет назад
@@ScottKenny1978 yes they made 1.5 million but they had 20million men they had to arm by the end of the war. Plus the Russian found out they were kinda finicky. They gave them to specialized troops that would keep them clean and to second line troops in places that didn't have harsh conditions
@Chetanoo
@Chetanoo 5 лет назад
Thank you for you job Yan. That's a lot of history knowledge.
@teppokuusisto144
@teppokuusisto144 5 лет назад
Side-note: Svenska Frivilligkåren (SFK) aka Swedish Volunteer Corps whom held the section in northern Finland during the latter parts of the Winter war captured these from the Soviets in the battles of Märkäjärvi/Salla (Lapland). That is the base for the lineage from Simonov AVS-35 / AVS-36 to Automatgevär m/42 (Ljungman AG-42).
@bwhog
@bwhog 2 года назад
Interesting mechanism. I don't know nearly as much about the mechanics of these things as I ought to so I always find these demonstrations useful.
@randywatson8347
@randywatson8347 5 лет назад
I love this example. The tech that went into this in the 30's is just mazing!
@superblahblah666
@superblahblah666 2 года назад
as a sks bro i loved this one, that trigger is crazy complex but simple performing, thanks
@kurtvanduran7725
@kurtvanduran7725 5 лет назад
@2:24 Reznov... so he lives.
@dontimberman5493
@dontimberman5493 4 года назад
One of the simplest select fire mechanisms. So simple to make, understand and even fix.
@Mongo63a
@Mongo63a 5 лет назад
Relying on a spring to pull the locking block out of engagement seems like an area that would result in a lot of issues.
@williamsullivan9401
@williamsullivan9401 5 лет назад
I was wondering about that, but I think the gas block pushes it down.
@vulekv93
@vulekv93 3 года назад
@@williamsullivan9401 No it doesn't, spring is driving it downwards, if that spring fails when it gets hot and fouled locking lug might stick to the bolt.
@bbcmotd
@bbcmotd 3 года назад
Ian: hopefully its Saimonov The designer: my name's Simonov
@comNartheus
@comNartheus 5 лет назад
On stress patterns - they are kinda opposite in English and Russian. I’ve noticed this for both names and adopted words. It is especially noticeable for Latin (a lot of words, especially scientific terms were adopted by both languages from a Latin or “Neolatin”) so when a Russian talks about science in English most of us who are not used to this specific activity are usually mispronouncing Latin terms, slipping into Russian characteristic stress placements. And I know 0 native English speakers who pronounce Russian names correctly at leas half of times and vice versa.
@nicholaspatton5590
@nicholaspatton5590 5 лет назад
I have always wondered how "3" ended up in your alphabet. Though it probably is not a three (3).
@comNartheus
@comNartheus 5 лет назад
Nicholas Patton afaik it was derived from Greek letter zeta, as all our alphabet was derived from Greek originally.
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 5 лет назад
Андрей Назариков Yes, from Greek missionaries Cyril and Methodius, hence the name Cyrillic.
@nicholaspatton5590
@nicholaspatton5590 5 лет назад
I loved how you used your hands to strip nearly all of that rifle. Then we got to the only screw, and you had to whip out the "specialty tool."
@Tekdruid
@Tekdruid 5 лет назад
The design of that primary locking block is really interesting. I wonder if they used that in any other rifles?
@wills2140
@wills2140 5 лет назад
They didn't really, but Thompson had the "Blish lock" in his Sub machine gun and some prototype rifles, starting in 1926.
@alaskanbullworm5500
@alaskanbullworm5500 5 лет назад
The Japanese type 96/99 machine guns had a similar locking block.
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 5 лет назад
@@wills2140 The Blish lock though was more of a delaying system rather than a true lock, at least according to Ian's videos on the Thompson guns.
@joshualance6005
@joshualance6005 5 лет назад
Its a flapper locked like on the dp28 mixed with a tilting block like on the sks
@Deliverygirl
@Deliverygirl 5 лет назад
What a beautiful set of innards this weapon has. Absolutely crazy, love it!
@brucebaxter6923
@brucebaxter6923 5 лет назад
Nice design. I wonder if the toggle locks are as much a fire out of battery device as they are a backup locking mechanism.
@simonmunden5046
@simonmunden5046 5 лет назад
This... My exact thought
@aries_9130
@aries_9130 5 лет назад
This is so awesome. Thank you very much for the video, Ian!
@GingerGigantus
@GingerGigantus 5 лет назад
Full auto 7.62x54R... that sounds like fun!
@cyanidic3673
@cyanidic3673 5 лет назад
GingerGigantus yeah a mosin leaves ur shoulder sore imagine shooting this thing full auto with a couple mag dumps
@milanstepanek4185
@milanstepanek4185 5 лет назад
Yeah, plus the bolt and other stuff that flies back into your shoulder when you fire doesn't look small or light. Full auto must be all over the place with this gun.
@chriswarren1618
@chriswarren1618 4 года назад
You could put the pins and screws loosely back in their locations, directly after part disassembly, to prevent loss and ready to find on reassembly.
@stevenfrost6441
@stevenfrost6441 5 лет назад
The Soviet's have a really rich history in firearms..as a Military History buff I always remembered them by the "Five Kov's:" Fyodorov, Kalashnikov, Siminov, Tokarev and Makarov. I am proud to say I own at least one of each of the last 4 men's designs!
@TemurbekAbdurahmonov-f2s
@TemurbekAbdurahmonov-f2s 3 года назад
Do you know about Vasiliy Degtyarev (Василий Дегтярёв)? This man is creator for a lot soviet infantry weapons in WWII. SMG PPD, light machine guns - DP-27, DT (tank version), RPD, RP-46 (belt-feeding conversion of DP), heavy machine gun - DShK and DShKM and anti-tank rifle PTRD. All of those guns was aproved in army service, and some of them still in the russian army reserve in present time
@TheBucketSkill
@TheBucketSkill 3 года назад
@@TemurbekAbdurahmonov-f2s Can't forget Degtyarev! I forgot he made DSHk!! I mainly think of the DP-27 believe it or not I seen some Balkan countries still use DP27. I think it is outdated because of PKM, but DSHk still in use heavily all over the middle east. Famously mounted on toyota.
@HonduDan
@HonduDan 5 лет назад
Nothing against you Ian, you're exceptional man. Extremely knowledgeable and very well spoken on the subjects of your videos. However, if I have to see the ad for iTarget where the guy pronounces it "ertergert" one more time, I'm going to scream!
@ДмитрийШулепов-х5ц
Thank you for the review rare and in Russia automatic guns! Looking at the disassembly, you understand why the leadership of the red army chose in 1938 SVT-38...
@TheSuperCanucks
@TheSuperCanucks 4 года назад
Just noticed you uploaded this on my birthday last year, thank you
@srddnrsmn7320
@srddnrsmn7320 4 года назад
The West: "Oh yeah, we were the first to do that!" Russia: "Nyet."
3 года назад
This wasn't standard issue for every rifleman like the Garand was I think.
@cherenkov_blue
@cherenkov_blue Год назад
The AVS36: the forgotten middle child between Simonov's light carbine and massive anti-tank rifle.
@KDX420
@KDX420 5 лет назад
wow you can really see the similarities to the later SKS
@igorfazlyev
@igorfazlyev 3 года назад
btw See-mow-noff eventually went on to design the famous SKS carbine
@loquat4440
@loquat4440 5 лет назад
I suspect that the locking flaps are more intended to ensure that that the bolt carrier and bolt are all the way forward before the firing pin/striker can actually hit the primer. If everything is not fully forward the bottom locking piece will not be push up into position. I wonder if that gun started out as solely locked by the flaps like on the DP-28 and for some reason they decided an additional locking area was needed.
@Hagop64
@Hagop64 5 лет назад
I was trying to figure out how it functioned on full auto since the sear is completely disengaged. You're right about the flaps being needed. Without the flaps there would be nothing holding back the striker/firing pin essentially turning it into an open bolt/fixed firing pin setup after the first round is fired on full auto.
@terryreynolds9397
@terryreynolds9397 5 лет назад
You didn't point out the selector lock, that square bolt-head underneath the selector lever. Basically it is threaded screw with a square head in a round depression. Normally, the selector lever would be up in the semi-auto position, and the screw would be turned such that it was out beyond the surface of the receiver, blocking movement of the lever down. Squad leaders were issued a metric clock key (the kind you use to wind a clock). Only the squad leader would decide who would have full-automatic enabled and when. Long bursts would damage the weapon, and they only wanted soldiers with good fire discipline using full-auto. Also, on early weapons, that selector lever was only the retaining pin for the receiver cover, and it was not connected to the fire-control group. A separate selector lever was inside the trigger guard in front of the trigger, and essentially looked a lot like the safety, but backwards. There was also a lock for full auto on those older weapons. It was a similar square-head screw through the front of the trigger guard that blocked travel of the selector lever. I think these were all pre-1936, but they were treated as the same weapon, issued right along with the later ones. Also, that retaining pin for the metal hand was redesigned on some weapons so as to block rotation of the three position gas selector. I think shooting sometimes caused it to rotate.
@kbjerke
@kbjerke 5 лет назад
That is ELEGANTLY complicated! Reminds me a bit of the C96 Mauser pistol. Thanks for the vid!
@perihelion7798
@perihelion7798 5 лет назад
The fully automatic mode was virtually uncontrollable due to the power of it's 7.62 X 54 cartridge. In addition, that cartridge, because of it's sheer length, is problematical in a magazine fed weapon. The Germans passed on the 8 mm Mauser cartridge for STG 44 for this reason, as well as the recoil when in full auto mode. I have fired an M14 offhand in full auto, and it's crazy to handle. So a shorter cartridge is much preferred in a select fire rifle. Thus the 7.62 X 39.
@user-mf2gr3cz6e
@user-mf2gr3cz6e 2 года назад
About the cartridge being troublesome in mag fed guns, thats not because of its length its due to the fact that its a rimmed cartridge
@perihelion7798
@perihelion7798 2 года назад
@@user-mf2gr3cz6e Partially, maybe. Note that 'assault rifles' use less powerful cartridges, starting with the German STG 44. Also, the .308 [7.62X51] is about 1/4" shorter than the 30.06. Sad experience with the 30.06, magazine fed, BAR indicated that the longer 30.06 caused malfunctions in that fully automatic weapon, where it was fine in the Garand.
@user-mf2gr3cz6e
@user-mf2gr3cz6e 2 года назад
@@perihelion7798 longer cartridge means potential problems but plenty of rifles do it, fg42 works just fine with a cartridge about the size of 30-06
@perihelion7798
@perihelion7798 2 года назад
@@user-mf2gr3cz6e The FG 42 (German: Fallschirmjägergewehr 42, "paratrooper rifle 42") is a selective-fire 7.92×57mm Mauser automatic rifle produced in Nazi Germany. We actually don't really know what 'fine' means in the context, as sparse records exit of this weapons battle performance. Still, modern assault rifles use a shortened, less powerful cartridge. essentially starting with the STG 44.
@Aravzil
@Aravzil 5 лет назад
What an incredibly interesting video. You really went into the details with the mechanism.
@rogerjohnson8707
@rogerjohnson8707 5 лет назад
The flex of the barrel in the subsequent video is quite profound.
@ДмитрийХабаров-ю1ъ
Ian, there is no "ai" sound in Russian, so it's not Sai-monov, but See-monov. Also CCCP is not c c c p, it's SSSR which stands for USSR. Great video! I didn't even know such rifle existed. But i'm not really a war fan, i just like watching engineer solutions to firearms.
@workingmansdead44-ug8hl
@workingmansdead44-ug8hl 5 лет назад
Always fascinating, informative and entertaining content,Ian.
@milat9287
@milat9287 4 года назад
It's Si-Mo-Nov. Si as in Spanish yes. Mo, as in Monarch. Nov, as in Novel. As far as I'm aware, you're alone in the world in having an AI sound on your I's, so you should probably always just assume that anything with an I in, is pronounced like in Si
@g45sp4
@g45sp4 4 года назад
2:23 Reznov, I know that guy. We were in Vorkuta together
@Rawhide68
@Rawhide68 3 года назад
Wow! this is like the grandfather of fully automatic, quite impressive
@dimasrestujuliano7156
@dimasrestujuliano7156 Год назад
Wait after a closer look ,i know why the locking flaps are assymetrical, it's because the right flap is actually an auto sear (to prevent the striker from striking before the bolt locks) That is why it is longer than the left one ,hence why it has a claw like contruction on the back. The flaps are also, Not actuated by the striker, but by a hidden bulge under the bolt carrier that is invisible unless you dissasemble the entire bolt assy,
@ironrangerw6r1
@ironrangerw6r1 5 лет назад
Wow this is a complicated machine. Shows the genius of the designer. But seems like a lot that could go wrong. Amazing machine
@NookyAvenger
@NookyAvenger 5 лет назад
I have seen one last year, almost mint condition, it's a beautifully made rifle and interesting as well.
@gibsondrummer
@gibsondrummer 4 года назад
That is really really cool
@Verdunveteran
@Verdunveteran 5 лет назад
Cool! I have been waiting for a video on this one! :D We have a deactivated one, lacking its magazine, in GMHV's collections at Hässleholms Museum in Hässleholm, Sweden. it was most likely brought back as a war trophy from the Finno-Soviet Winter War of 1939-1940 by a Swedish Volunteer Corps soldier from the regiment here in Hässleholm. My grand father did his military service here and served in the Swedish Volunteer Corps during the Winter War aswell.
@anandanurag
@anandanurag 3 года назад
Thank you for interesting video!
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