Awe: How to Train Yourself to Get Goose Bumps (Dacher Keltner)

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The Michael Shermer Show # 317
Awe is mysterious. How do we begin to quantify the goose bumps we feel when we see the Grand Canyon, or the utter amazement when we watch a child walk for the first time? How do you put into words the collective effervescence of standing in a crowd and singing in unison, or the wonder you feel while gazing at centuries-old works of art?
In this conversation based on his new book Awe, Dacher Keltner presents a radical investigation and deeply personal inquiry into this elusive emotion. Revealing new research into how awe transforms our brains and bodies, alongside an examination of awe across history, culture, and within his own life during a period of grief, Keltner shows us how cultivating awe in our everyday life leads us to appreciate what is most humane in our human nature. And during a moment in which our world feels more divided than ever before, and more imperiled by crises of different kinds, we are greatly in need of awe. If we open our minds, it is awe that sharpens our reasoning and orients us toward big ideas and new insights, that cools our immune system’s inflammation response and strengthens our bodies. It is awe that activates our inclination to share and create strong networks, to take actions that are good for the natural and social world around us. It is awe that transforms who we are, that inspires the creation of art, music, and religion. Awe is also a field guide for how to place awe as a vital force within our lives.
Shermer and Keltner discuss: the death of his brother and how this led to his study of awe • an operational definition of awe • the reliability (or unreliability) of self-report data in social science • how to quantify and measure the experience of awe • What are emotions and how can they be measured? • How has the scientific understanding of emotions changed? • predictors of awe: nature, music, art, dance, movement/exercise, love & friendships • awe in moral beauty • how to train yourself to experience awe • how awe helps heal traumas, grief, and loneliness • mystical experiences, spirituality, and awe restorative justice and awe.
Dacher Keltner is a professor of psychology at the University of California, Berkeley, and the faculty director of UC Berkeley’s Greater Good Science Center. A renowned expert in the science of human emotion, Dr. Keltner studies compassion and awe, how we express emotion, and how emotions guide our moral identities and search for meaning. His research interests also span issues of power, status, inequality, and social class. He is the author of The Power Paradox and the bestselling book Born to Be Good, and the coeditor of The Compassionate Instinct. His new book is Awe: The New Science of Everyday Wonder and How it Can Transform Your Life.
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@crypticnomad Год назад

I've been basically applying Bruce Lee's concept of "take what works and throw the rest away" when it comes to some esoteric practices. Some of these practices have been studied by modern western science and have found benefits to some of them. Commonly understood examples include things like various types of meditation and contemplation practices. An issue that I've found is that people who completely ignore/dismiss esoteric practices sometimes miss extremely important information. Just as an example of what I mean, in zen buddhist practices it is really common for people to have a suite of meditative/contemplative practices such as mindfulness, gratitude practice, compassion practice, etc. Just doing mindfulness or just doing gratitude practices could lead to mental imbalance. People who tend to be more self-oriented who only have a mindfulness practice can see a drop in prosocial behavior like feeling guilty when they wrong someone and may even become more selfish if they don't offset that with something like gratitude/compassion practice. Similarly more open/emotional people can become quite neurotic if they only do emotion based practices like gratitude/compassion. There are some studies coming out that are starting to confirm what has been long established as fact in zen and other similar esoteric practices. If one were to just dismiss these established points as superstitious nonsense in a hand wavy fashion they could easily cause themselves serious life problems. Also, messing around with the mind and not knowing what we are doing is extremely dangerous.

@thomasbarchen Год назад

Great interview!

@theriffwriter2194 Год назад

An incredible strong sense of awe and wonder is the only use I've ever found for the word "spirituality. " Besides that it just seems like a nice way of saying "woo."

@francesco5581 Год назад

because awe and wonder is what lead yourself to question the nature of reality... And then you have only 2 choices A) this awe and wonder is the product of wild chance B) that mean something deeper (spirituality)

@Mike-fx4nu Год назад

@@francesco5581 "something deeper" is not spirituality. Spirituality is literally the belief that spirits are out and about controlling things.

@francesco5581 Год назад

@@Mike-fx4nu Thats a too limited view on spirituality in my opinion. Spirituality is about reality and us being something more and everlasting than simple matter. is not about ghosts is more about another plane of existence only related to consciousness. Just like quantum mechanic is another plane of existence (if really is based on the collapse of a wave function) than our physical matter.

@jps0117 Год назад

I like this guy. More interesting than I expected.

@Seekthetruth3000 Год назад

Awesome conversation.

@francesco5581 Год назад

very interesting discussion but very much dumbing down everything (from Keltner part)... I think that tying awe to emotions (and social interactions) is limiting its essence . Awe is an emotion that always induce inner reflection about the nature of reality. Thats why awe almost ALWAYS lead to an internal reflection and to spirituality Guilty is not about "ohh ive harmed somebody , i am ashamed" , is not a social evolution, is an inner evolution. Guilty is about yourself , about your inner spiritual evolution. Not sentient beings share things and does not harm each others without the need of guilty The same Awe is surely not about being a strong group member, is a very personal and inner thing. There is also no short term or long term regarding emotions... each one build what we are now in this exact moment... we just forget of most of them ... Also is absolutely ridiculous that someone that claim the need of emotions for the benefit of our specie believe in determinism...here simple logic just fall down !!! He also totally miss the causes that keep people to not go outside (maybe he should have been more inside too, working on himself). How a person that believe in determinism even dare to give advice to others ?

@lizgichora6472 Год назад

Quite fascinating, thank you both very much.

@aminomar7890 Год назад

Nothing can turn the irrational thief apes into humans whatsoever.

@magicalgardentvcajica Год назад

Dear Michael and Dacher. Wonderful conversation. Sesame Street has talked about death.

@ScienceisRadAF Год назад

I would love to hear your thoughts on the word awful (which could have meant full of awe), being synonymous with terrible.

@Atheistbatman Год назад

As a horticulturist I am in awe and terrified in NW Ga because I can see the asteroid hitting us now. Locally after only 2 nights warmer than days my vegetables stopped growing for entire season just halted in place producing nothing. This is not a Thing this is not something anyone even contemplated and zero research has been done concerning inverted temps on crops…days only 75 but nights got to 80s in late spring…inverted day night temps has not been tested (except as old growth regulating technique before hormones for floral crops…in greenhouses were there is control not out in fields) Earthworms gone in county since 2021 and no fly larvae in trash cans all summer. And no pesticides or herbicides or anything

@nikolaosdimitriadis15 Год назад

Amazing conversation!! Well done! An important reason for moving away from the "cognition uber alles" approach of the past was the advent of neuroscience in the 80s and especially the 90s. The more we know about the brain the greater the role emotions seem to play in fundamental processes (like in thinking).

@polymathpark Год назад

I can give myself goosebumps! I talk about this in a few of my videos actually, it's called "positively-valenced parasthesia" and it has long been thought of as a sympathetic response mechanism that we couldn't control consciously, but we can! I taught myself how under influence of psychedelics hehe.

@pksinha59 Год назад

I loved the expression-positively -valenced parathesia - please elaborate a bit.

@polymathpark Год назад

@@pksinha59 It's called positively-valenced because it comes from a positive source, we can also get chills and have our hair stand on end from nails on a chalkboard! It's the same neurochemical sensation, just context-based. Talk about mind over matter! And so I do, in my video "Retrospective Gratitude - Exploring Salience Landscaping & Expanding Perspective." feel free to comment/sub/share! (shameless self promotion, I know Dx)

@GaderineInsomniac Год назад

Loved this interview...it was awe inspiring. I plan on buying his book.

@GaderineInsomniac Год назад

Update... I bought his book and loved it. "AWE" is something everyone enjoys experiencing and tha author lists dozens of inspirational anecdotes of how people seek and find it. Highly recommended.

@Clem62 Год назад

New word. Spirituawelity.

@plinden Год назад

The professor is clearly mistaken about certain assumptions about "our culture": in the US the majority by far believe in Heaven, or other afterlife, i.e. that death is not the end but rather a new beginning. So there is the shared meaning. Among blacks and latinos almost 9 of 10 believe so. Then there is the ritual of burial, or some equivalent cermony, and the one of putting flowers on graves. So it is probably mostly completely false to say that "we" do not have any way to understand and handle death. Perhaps he is talking about his own social circle of secular intellectuals? 8 or 9 of 10 adults have no problem talking with child about death; it is when you live on in another dimension. So, what he is presenting as a majority concern, is a small minority concern. This does not mean that what he says is not very valuable to this minority, of course.

@oldtimer7635 Год назад

I think that this video, and most of Michael´s stuff is aimed for people with reason, logic and appreciation for science. Btw....I think living in an illusion or delusion (superstition), is nothing to be proud of.

@plinden Год назад

@@oldtimer7635 Right, and perhaps he his useful for seculars, but his claims about "our culture" are false generalizations.

@oldtimer7635 Год назад

False? I Think you confirmed them by yourself! By saying….. ”in the US the majority by far believe in Heaven, or other afterlife, i.e. that death is not the end but rather a new beginning.”

@plinden Год назад

@@oldtimer7635 ? That is why what the professor said was a false generalization. He said that we did not have ideas about the meaning of death an ways of approaching it in our culture, but "we" as a culture clearly do: only 1 in 6 does not believe in the afterlife, so the view of death as a transition is the majority coltural view. He is only speaking for 1/6 of the culture and its worries about lack of death-meaning.

@francesco5581 Год назад

i agree in part with you. Saying "when you die you go to heaven" works only with a string faith and fore example for me it doesnt work. As a very logic and skeptic person "faith" will never help me to contemplate death. So i had to dive myself studying death from all perspectives ... scientific, spiritual , philosophical and of logic. So now i consider myself a deist and i dont fear much death anymore... My logic/knowledge says that is more possible that there is something after death. So we cant discourage people to be "agnostic" while searching for answers. The "i know" about the existence of God that Jung said is considered the biggest level of faith of a human being in history ... and he had not faith.

@aminomar7890 Год назад

They used both: blunt theft and thievery as patching techniques (similar to car thieves who repaint the stolen cars to hide their theft crimes)!

@billyallen6092 Год назад

I found this interview to be awe inspiring &, I find it ironic that Michael Shermer mentioned Paul Giamatti because there is a amazing clip from the HBO show Adam Smith where (Paul) is describing to his son in the show about delighting in the mundane. I feel this clip encompasses the feeling of searching and finding awe. I look forward to reading Dacher Keltner's book. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w1jhv6yG6_E.html

@aminomar7890 Год назад

As if the Program presenter knows what is going on!

@aminam9201 Год назад

It is difficult for a human to reach the low level of apes' thinking, but it is very likely that this is the level of apes thinking and apes laws! The first thief is the one who gets the loot ! Not humans for sure!

@fj103 Год назад

🤟🏼

@MsHojat Год назад

I think having pets is a good introduction to death for people. Maybe even slaughtering/hunting animals. Aside from that I agree that North America (and/or "The West") doesn't have much/enough preparation/education around death. Although personally I was 100% fine without it; pet death seemed sufficient for me, although I suppose grandma and grandpa died before my cat so maybe not. Maybe just the fact that it wasn't tiptoed around when it happened? but that seems doubtful. One thing I'll note that I was super surprised by is that when one of my other grandparents died in highschool I got a well-wishes/our-sympathies card signed by some/most of my teachers given to me. It surprised me because I never told it to any of them, nor even any of my friends, nor was I acting differently, nor was I even sad by the passing. I never knew them that well, they had been in a nursing home for a long time now, and I was pretty much expecting their death I suppose. I guess I should ask my parent if they mentioned it to the school; otherwise they must have noticed the obituary and done it automatically or something. Either way it felt really impersonal or out-of-touch because I wasn't bothered by the death at all. I guess their stance would be that it's better to send cards to people who don't care then for people who _do_ care to _not_ get a card. I can certainly understand that.

@aminam9201 Год назад

What! Apes want to challenge Human?! How?! Through stealing and polluting human thoughs?!