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AWS re:Invent 2018: Amazon DynamoDB Deep Dive: Advanced Design Patterns for DynamoDB (DAT401) 

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This session is for those who already have some familiarity with DynamoDB. The patterns and data models discussed in this session summarize a collection of implementations and best practices leveraged by Amazon.com to deliver highly scalable solutions for a wide variety of business problems. The session also covers strategies for global secondary index sharding and index overloading, scalable graph processing with materialized queries, relational modeling with composite keys, and executing transactional workflows on DynamoDB.

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@lrdass
@lrdass 2 года назад
This guy doesn't even take breath man... If Eminen was a programmer he would be proud of this guy.
@edpro4776
@edpro4776 4 месяца назад
Gold 😂
@milequinze
@milequinze 4 года назад
0:40 Agenda 2:28 History of Data Processing (Anonymous' quote) 2:44 Timeline of Database Technology 5:54 Technology Adoption and the Hype Curve 7:42 Why NoSQL? 9:20 Amazon DynamoDB 12:21 Table 13:50 Partition Keys 14:40 Partition: Sort Key 15:08 Partitions are three-way replicated 16:15 Local Secondary Index (LSI) 17:12 Global Secondary Index (GSI) 18:04 How do GSI Updates Work? 18:56 Scaling NoSQL (Douglas Adams' quote) 19:06 What bad NoSQL looks like... 20:04 Getting the most out of Amazon DynamoDB throughput 21:00 Much better picture... 21:20 Auto Scaling 22:43 NoSQL Data Modeling (Grace Hopper's quote) 23:10 It's all about relationships... 23:51 SQL vs. NoSQL design pattern 26:03 Amazon DynamoDB - Key Concepts 27:24 Tenets of NoSQL Data Modeling 30:41 Complex Queries (Pablo Picasso's quote) 30:51 DynamoDB Streams and AWS Lambda 32:46 Triggers 34:51 Composite Keys (Nicolás Gómez Dávila's quote) 35:10 Multi-value Sorts and Filters 35:21 Approach 1: Query Filter 36:50 Approach 2: Composite Key 37:38 Advanced Data Modeling (Libby Larsen's quote) 37:46 How OLTP Apps Use Data 38:18 Maintaining Version History 40:20 Managing Relation Transactions 41:29 DynamoDB Transactions API 42:39 DynamoDB Table Schema 44:33 Reverse Lookup GSI 45:41 Hierarchical Data 45:47 Hierarchical Data Structures as Items 47:24 Modeling Relational Data 47:34 Modeling a Delivery Service - GetMeThat! 47:53 The Entity Model 48:14 The Access Patterns 48:42 The Relational Approach 49:21 The NoSQL Approach 52:01 The NoSQL Approach (Orders and Drivers GSI) 53:02 The NoSQL Approach (Vendors and Deliveries GSI) 53:45 A Real World Example (Philip K. Dick's quote) 53:52 Audible eBook Sync Service 54:52 Access Patterns 55:18 Primary Table 56:04 Indexes 56:28 Query Conditions 57:36 The Serverless Paradigm (Linus Torvalds' quote) 57:48 Elastic Serverless Applications 59:26 Conclusions
@sarojlam3111
@sarojlam3111 4 года назад
thank you for the index!
@cupule_acorn
@cupule_acorn 4 года назад
You're Awesome
@bcut
@bcut 3 года назад
Thanks so much for this! 👍
@freddbezerra2768
@freddbezerra2768 3 года назад
You rock!
@wesw02
@wesw02 3 года назад
The best talk on any database I've ever seen. Also one of the only talks I have to slow down, rather than speed up, to digest.
@aliahmadi4443
@aliahmadi4443 2 года назад
فیلم اکشن جنگی بفرستین برای من
@aliahmadi4443
@aliahmadi4443 2 года назад
من یک فیلم رزمیکار اکشن میخوام متشکرم
@galeop
@galeop Год назад
29:20 "NoSQL is not a flexible DB, it’s an efficient DB (and especially at scale). But the data model is very much not flexible, because the more that I tune the data model to the access pattern, the more tightly coupled to that service (ie the DB service tuned to my data access pattern) I am." Finally someone who states that clearly !
@lafiosca
@lafiosca 5 лет назад
Seeing this talk live blew my mind and made me realize just how little I really know about properly designing Dynamo tables.
@BillBrutzman
@BillBrutzman 5 лет назад
Do you mean... a (single) Dynamo table?
@ChrisShenton
@ChrisShenton 5 лет назад
This was brilliant: I think I had my mind blown around 49:15 where he's got a dozen different access patterns supported by a single table and just two GSIs. I've never considered mixing totally different data types (e.g., customer, order, provider) in a PK, or mixing different data types in an SK. It's gonna take a while for me to internalize this, but I really appreciate this eye-opener. The example of ebook/audiobook at 53:50 is also excellent.
@mcwills2010
@mcwills2010 5 лет назад
This comment prompted me to watch this. Specifically "dozen different access patterns supported by a single table and just two GSIs.... ". Thanks much for the _very_ concise highlight.
@nemetral
@nemetral 5 лет назад
Since a PK can contain totally different data types, why bother creating GSI, we could simply extend the number of data types inserted as PK and increase the redundancy? Or is the GSI saving up space by not duplicating all the attributes?
@thiagomedeiros1462
@thiagomedeiros1462 4 года назад
@@nemetralI think one advantage of GSI is that the provisioned throughput settings are separate from those of its base table. It may imply in scalability, avoiding throttling.
@Cenot4ph
@Cenot4ph 4 года назад
a lot of the material online that "tries" to enlighten people on how to design these type of databases all take the SQL approach. Even a lot of the library support for DynamoDB get this utterly wrong.
@namstel9225
@namstel9225 4 года назад
I had the same realization. I've also never considered putting different data types in a partition key or sort key. Mind blowing!
@ivantrofymenko1308
@ivantrofymenko1308 3 года назад
This is dense as hell but incredibly informative and oddly thought-provoking. This guy is a great speaker! You can tell there's nothing he doesn't know about databases
@confused6526
@confused6526 4 года назад
Dude... only a few minutes into your introduction I know I'm looking at an expert. Your passion is way up in the sky. Good man you are . Thanks for sharing the lecture.
@AirTimerSam
@AirTimerSam 4 года назад
After many round trips, trying to get DynamoDB modelling right, I reached here. Consider these (slides and videos) the bible of Modelling Dynamo DB. Last 10 minutes are pure pleasure.
@BramVandewalle
@BramVandewalle 5 лет назад
Favorite session of Re:invent 2018 so far!
@robbyriverside
@robbyriverside 5 лет назад
Best NoSQL deep dive I have ever seen. Very clear about what makes modeling different. Wonderful.
@_vicary
@_vicary 4 года назад
Didn’t have this high quality in-depth information for a long time, love this. Thanks for the talk.
@bharathpr
@bharathpr 5 лет назад
One of the best tech talks on Dynamo DB. Learnt a lot.
@abhinee
@abhinee 4 года назад
This is the quality every aws talk shud have. Awesome
@DropofLead
@DropofLead 3 года назад
All I can say is WOW! Truly changed my perspective on NoSQL data modeling. Overloading the PK and SK with non-related datatypes has shown me the power in this approach and sent me down a new rabbit hole. Well done sir! Keep up the excellent knowledge sharing!
@maver1que
@maver1que 3 года назад
Yes! The overloading truly opens up a lot of possibilities!
@mrlyons
@mrlyons 4 года назад
easily one of the best tech talks i've ever seen. I learned so much in the last 15 minutes alone.
@valentinamayer5934
@valentinamayer5934 5 лет назад
He speaks very confident and interesting, thank you.
@gilbertg.96
@gilbertg.96 5 лет назад
Any Rick's session is a thumbs up every time!
@seanazlin9148
@seanazlin9148 5 лет назад
Best session at reInvent 2018! Bravo!
@abhishektenneti1604
@abhishektenneti1604 Год назад
Love these re:Invent videos...an hour passes by in a snap! Lot of information in just 1hr
@HamidKhan-jf6zm
@HamidKhan-jf6zm 5 лет назад
Excellent talk! 47:37 is one of the finest examples of how a complex relational data with a dozen access patterns' requirement is solved by a single NoSQL table with DynamoDB Global Secondary Indexing!!
@Iam_be_ezy
@Iam_be_ezy 5 лет назад
Perfect summary and examples for the developer associate exam. Really powerful and amazing stuff
@rahulparakkat9293
@rahulparakkat9293 5 лет назад
Nailed it. Came here direct from 2016 session. Never bored to listen his speech. Wish to meet him some day. Looks like he practiced DynamoDB, all scenarios 1M times.
@vallard-
@vallard- 3 года назад
easily one of the best Re:Invent talks out there. Fabulous content. Thank you. Really opened my eyes as to what NoSQL is all about and how to do many to many relationships with DynamoDB.
@jjmal22
@jjmal22 4 года назад
Rick Houlihan really seems to talk through this very complex topic quite casually. He's an expert and this was an excellent video!
@sgsvnk
@sgsvnk 2 года назад
**Takeaways:** - Global secondary index should scale as fast as the table writes, or else the table writes are throttled - In NoSQL it is an anti-pattern to query a small subset of data, the queries should be equally distributed (the partitions should be created in such fashion) - Design your schema based on your access patterns. NoSQL is designed for simple transactional queries. If your access patterns cannot be simple, use SQL databases. - Tenets of data modeling - understand the nature OLAP, OLTP, DSS / Understand the entity relationships / identify data life cycle TTL, backups, archivals etc / identify access patterns - data sources, aggregations, workflows / use single table / simplify access patterns - single table is good enough for many access patterns (talk mentions 40) - NoSQL for OLTP, DSS at scale, SQL for OLAP or OLTP without too much scale.
@hamtrick4536
@hamtrick4536 5 лет назад
This is the best video for understanding nosql, I always worked with RDBMS and wondered how nosql handles consistency, complex relational data etc. and had a cursory knowledge of the concept. When I completed watching this video, my understanding ended up being high to some degree. Thanks.
@gonzalobauer274
@gonzalobauer274 4 года назад
I can not praise this video enough. I've been looking for introductions to NoSQL on RU-vid, particularly for how to model, and after dozens of videos I've found this. It is clear, it is full of introductory knowledge, it's got real world examples (and a presenter with real world experience), and is very well presented. That alone makes for a quality video. But in addition, this guy has a really soothing voice (it gives me that movie vive) and his work with the quotes gave me something else to think about! Thank you.
@kyleburke2
@kyleburke2 4 года назад
Really amazing presentation. I never understood the one table design but this presentation opened my eyes to a new way to data model.
@vcrechet
@vcrechet 5 лет назад
Favorite session so far as well !
@AndreioxMacedo
@AndreioxMacedo 4 года назад
God damn. This guy knows stuff. Thank you very much.
@maxehhh
@maxehhh 4 года назад
Second talk I watch from this guy and really making me understand how it works.
@ericdai5221
@ericdai5221 3 года назад
Great presentation! Definitly mind blown to put everything into one single table!
@kingalok
@kingalok 5 лет назад
Nicely defined many concepts. Thanks a lot Rick.
@shubhamjha8870
@shubhamjha8870 3 года назад
The best tech lecture I have gone through.
@vishalsharma-bp9zu
@vishalsharma-bp9zu 2 года назад
I am glad this is my first video on dynamoDB.
@simdeniro
@simdeniro 2 года назад
The best ever talk on Dynamo DB & NoSQL DB's
@wwrafter
@wwrafter 4 года назад
Finally. I've been trying to wrap my head around this stuff for a while, even after watching this (and last year's) several times. What broke the log jam? 1. Watch at .75 speed. He needs to talk fast to jam it all into the allotted time. Much more absorbable at .75. 2. Primary key doesn't uniquely identify an item. Rather it identifies a collection of items. Might be a terminology overload between RDMS and NOSQL though. . I think I have a better understanding of how this stuff can be used. So cool!
@limplash
@limplash 4 года назад
Thats why i find Partition key better name then primary key
@hesham200053
@hesham200053 2 года назад
Magnificent talk, i never understood so much about dynamo ans DBs in one talk
@osazemeusen1091
@osazemeusen1091 5 лет назад
Impressive stuff. I need to soak all of this up :)
@paulcarroll5871
@paulcarroll5871 3 года назад
Amazing presentation... and on a single breath too!
@tourniquet3306
@tourniquet3306 2 года назад
Great video! For the viewers, one interesting thing to note is that while GSIs allow you to satisfy many use cases with a single table, internally they are implemented using multiple tables. This is why you need to provision for GSIs separately. So, the single table is not really a single table under the hood.
@tourniquet3306
@tourniquet3306 2 года назад
@@nononononoo689 Too meta. Can't handle.
@OtRatsaphong
@OtRatsaphong 4 года назад
This one talk gave me the information I needed to understand the benefits of NoSQL databases. NoSQL is not Non-relational. The ERD still matters.
@seetlive
@seetlive 5 лет назад
Multi-access patterns using different combinations of GSI is the most useful takeaway tip (big tip actually) from the presentation. Thank you Sir! well explained
@diepanhrabbit6100
@diepanhrabbit6100 5 лет назад
great talk about data model with dynamodb
@vidhyagk7581
@vidhyagk7581 4 года назад
Amazing Video.great info in a nutshell. Loved the initial slides on data pressure and why No SQL
@hongweixie693
@hongweixie693 4 года назад
Learned a lot! Helped me to resolve a complex issue!
@abeidiot
@abeidiot 2 года назад
probably the only talk which correctly identifies use cases for nosql. So many stackoverflow posters say it's 'flexible' and it couldn't be further from the truth. 'flexible' complex queries are best served by rdbms. Use nosql to have 'KISS" extremely scalable applications and just say your product manager that it's the responsibility of analytics for plugging in random new stuff to fetch data outside of what main api are doing which it was designed for
@richardbinnington9740
@richardbinnington9740 2 года назад
Wow! I went from being interested in NoSQL but having no clue where to start to knowing why we need to switch to it and a pretty good idea how to get there. Thank you
@davetube75
@davetube75 5 лет назад
A great presentation!
@8Trails50
@8Trails50 3 года назад
this is a really mindblowing talk.
@francispascual137
@francispascual137 4 года назад
Excellent presentation!
@kyle-rb
@kyle-rb 5 лет назад
I think this took me about two hours to watch, with rewinding and pausing to actually understand the diagrams and what he's saying. (To be fair I haven't used Dynamo as much more than a key value store up to this point.) But anyway, this is super enlightening about Dynamo and NoSQL in general.
@SibTiger33
@SibTiger33 5 лет назад
Excellent! Fantastic
@avani0038
@avani0038 4 года назад
Awesome, mind blown!
@frankcastroprimoy
@frankcastroprimoy 3 года назад
“Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it.” ― George Santayana, The Life of Reason: Five Volumes in One
@chisler6192
@chisler6192 4 года назад
Great talk! Thank you
@confused6526
@confused6526 4 года назад
@25:11 Sorry I lose my voice ..folks.... :-). Yea I can tell because you talk much faster than your brain :-). You're so good and passionate about your product. AWS is so lucky to get a guy like you. Kudos!
@seerozhaa2656
@seerozhaa2656 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the talk, it was really helpful!
@amazonwebservices
@amazonwebservices 5 месяцев назад
❤️
@brianoregan5305
@brianoregan5305 4 года назад
Fantastic speaker.
@shashikantprabhu8202
@shashikantprabhu8202 5 лет назад
Brilliant!
@TareqAlothman
@TareqAlothman 4 года назад
That is an awesome lecture about NoSQL databases. I wish AWS would include a download link for the slides of the presentation
@Its-Viru
@Its-Viru 4 года назад
Neat ! Mind blowing !
@RudolfEremyan
@RudolfEremyan 4 года назад
Great talk!!!
@bradw2k
@bradw2k 2 года назад
Aha, now I understand NoSQL: it is all about denormalizing your data for all of the query use cases, and then overlaying all of these denormalizations into one table* by clever overloading of partition key and sort key. * Or "a few" tables, if you count GSI's as automatically-managed separate tables, which they are under the hood.
@dexterplameras3249
@dexterplameras3249 2 года назад
The relational database was invented because of their strength in "relationships" not speed. NoSQL predates via Hierarchical Databases which is basically what all NoSQL databases are (tree structures). Hierarchical Databases were also faster than RDBMs which tells you speed is not the reason RDBMs were invented. RDBMs were implemented only when the computing power to process JOINs (relationships) became feasible.
@jonassteinberg3779
@jonassteinberg3779 4 года назад
I *have* run NoSQL clusters at scale and it is true: it's basically a full-time job unless the org has a very, very bright team doing it; you're going to deal with *all* sorts of issues: storage scaling consideration, node scaling consideration, security, to-backup-or-not-to-backup, blah blah blah. I would move to a SaaS in a heartbeat; likely *will* move to a SaaS actually lol.
@mikelaurel6247
@mikelaurel6247 5 лет назад
I love the fact that much of this is regurgitated from his presentation 2 years ago... and still highly relevant! This time, some great best practice tips, examples and breakdowns. Pretty obvious the NoSQL option is sound and steady, it's all about picking the right use case and how you model the data. Absolutely stellar performance, end to end... again.
@arthurprs
@arthurprs 5 лет назад
What a strange (bad) choice of word
@TomerBenDavid
@TomerBenDavid 5 лет назад
16:15 local and global secondary indexes
@SwarangaSarma
@SwarangaSarma 5 лет назад
Few additional things to consider: 1. How do we plan for capacity when we have multiple access patterns for the same table; just SUM it up? 2. Be careful to analyse your tables with potential hotspots. I think in the exercise of trying to store multiple item types in the same table, keep an eye out for key distributions that are not ideal for DynamoDB.
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 5 лет назад
ReturnConsumedCapacity is your friend when doing capacity planning. Turn it on and run some pattern load. Log the data and look at the cost of each access pattern.. After that it is simple math to look at what the table will require over time. Don't just add it up as most of your access patterns do not run in parallel. Use patterned load representative of real world traffic and the capacity log data will show you what the app will need as you scale. Certainly as you call out make sure that you are not exceeding partition level throughput and if you are then simply shard the partitions accordingly to distribute the load.
@jjgangi
@jjgangi 5 лет назад
He glossed over the race condition at 38:17. If 2 clients are creating new versions (v1 and v2), and those 2 versions get promoted to v0 without a lock/transaction, the properties of v1 and v2 will conflict if v2 is building off v0. You would need to promote to v0 in a transaction to avoid a conflict between draft versions.
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 5 лет назад
I may have left out the need for a conditional check on the current version of the v0 item when committing back to the item. Lots of steps to describe in that workflow for sure. You could also explicitly set a lock the v0 item and check that before inserting the new version using transactWrite API. Good catch.
@vinodshalgar
@vinodshalgar 5 лет назад
Great talk
@KurtMbanje
@KurtMbanje 5 лет назад
Mind blown, one table for multiple partition keys. will take a lot to get to grips with this approach. I can see now why u dont need that many GSI's in DynamoDb.
@ppgab
@ppgab 5 лет назад
Yup, in the end your data will pretty much be unreadable without the modeling documentation
@guild_navigator
@guild_navigator 5 лет назад
What tool is used to generate the heat map at 19:30 and what metrics contribute to "key pressure"?
@MarcellodeSales
@MarcellodeSales 3 года назад
Amazing how NoSQL is described here... Is there a way to find the actual design of the 2 DynamoDB examples anywhere? That would be great as a resource to wrap our heads around the concepts...
@BobF510
@BobF510 7 месяцев назад
This is a groundbreaking article. I read a book on a similar subject that altered my perceptions. "AWS Unleashed: Mastering Amazon Web Services for Software Engineers" by Harrison Quill
@TouchedAlot
@TouchedAlot 4 года назад
mind blown
@eduardoborn5573
@eduardoborn5573 Год назад
Amazing
@ABronfin
@ABronfin 2 года назад
This guy is insane. Wow!
@tranminhhaifet
@tranminhhaifet 2 года назад
Thank you
@hynemoon
@hynemoon 4 года назад
This men is a genius!
@Tom-ql9vw
@Tom-ql9vw 4 года назад
At 30:25 it's said not to create multiple tables, yet when you follow official AWS courses on DynamoDB like the one at www.edx.org/course/amazon-dynamodb-building-nosql-database-driven-applications they're creating 6 tables for a simple CRUD prototype application.
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 4 года назад
Which one makes the most sense from a compute cost perspective? Structure the data on one table and it takes one query to retrieve all the items required. Structure it on 6 tables and it will take 6 queries with multiple round trips, result set iterations, and client side grouping/ordering. The single table design is obviously much more efficient.
@confused6526
@confused6526 4 года назад
@33:35 you left me in the dust sir :-). You didn't even let your lung to have time to inhale. :-). Great!
@humblechili
@humblechili 5 лет назад
Mind = Blown
@abhishes
@abhishes 4 года назад
49:23 is when mind gets blown.
@MrSanjibdutta
@MrSanjibdutta 2 года назад
I am wondering what happens when technology with very low-cost computing resources may be like truly cost-effective quantum computing arrives..do we need to rethink and go back to relational db or something more compute-hungry but efficient?
@pixelperfectgamer
@pixelperfectgamer 4 года назад
Totally changed my take on DynamoDB. Helped a lot. There are two doubts that I have: 1. Is it a good practice to keep a copy of the same data with different Sort Key? Doesn't it take more storage? 2. How should I handle updates to the resources? Should I use the versioning mechanism that you have shown? Thanks
@bradw2k
@bradw2k 2 года назад
1. Yes but "storage is cheap" is the premise of NoSQL, as he says. 2. Sounds like the versioning mechanism was especially useful for simulating transactions before DynamoDB had the transaction API. But now, unless the old versions really are needed by the OLTP-style queries of the applications/services, probably not justified keeping them in the table.
@vermoidvermoid7124
@vermoidvermoid7124 8 месяцев назад
GSI is eventually consistent. This is a major issue. I can model the data in dynamodb but because GSI's are NOT strongly consistent, it create many issues/challenges for an application requiring strong consistency.
@justethan8262
@justethan8262 3 года назад
Great explanation! Quick question. On the hierarchal data demonstration you use the USA as a partition key. Is that a good partition key in terms of uniqueness? Would that become a hot key?
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 2 года назад
Potentially the partition could become hot depending on the number of Items on the tree. If you are trying to move more that 1K WCU/3K RCU in/out of the partition you would need to shard the partition key and split the data across more than one logical key. The data would then be processed in parallel across the logical keys. To ensure uniqueness the last item in the composite sort key should be a unique location or ID, like a desk location or userId.
@ppgab
@ppgab 3 года назад
My issue with this is scaling a many to many relationship, you're duplicating data many places, but what if I need to update/edit this data? I would also have to do that in many places, that sounds like a scaling issue
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 3 года назад
This is a common objection, but it is an extremely rare requirement. The vast majority of use cases that require denormalization of N:N relationships have immutable data on one side or the other, e.g. event/status/type definitions. The ones that don't either use data from one side or the other that changes infrequently or the use case requires history to be maintained if those values change, e.g. user name or shipping address. Bottom line is if you do have the use case for maintaining N:N relationships with frequently updated data then NoSQL is probably not for you, but using that as a reason to choose RDBMS when 99% of workloads don't require that is not a valid argument.
@nichenjie
@nichenjie 4 года назад
12:45 The table graph is not very accurate since both partition key and sort key are required. The second row is not valid.
@pm71241
@pm71241 2 года назад
The argument about storage cost vs CPU cost is a fair argument, but it's a bit of a stretch to claim that's the only consideration on whether to use SQL or NoSQL
@bernhardsmuts2265
@bernhardsmuts2265 5 лет назад
I am starting to wrap my head around this concept and understand it. Yet, on the 13th, AWS launched DoucmentDB, which sounds like their version of MongoDB. Is it going to replace DynamoDB, or will it have different use cases, for basic consumer apps, what will be the best direction to go with?
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 5 лет назад
DynamoDB is not going away. There are strong opinions in the NoSQL community about differences between so called "Document" and "Wide Column" API's. Those who really know the technology understand that there is no difference when you are handling big data workloads and that is what NoSQL was designed for. The patterns I use apply to all NoSQL backends in some variation. AWS is providing a choice for those who believe they need to have one. As far as which one to go with I think that comes down to the cost to support the workload. Take a look at both and see which one is the most cost effective for what you are trying to do. Depending on the workload it might be faster to develop on DocumentDB at first but you will probably be introducing scale challenges similar to what I see commonly in MongoDB apps that will force you to do things correctly sooner or later. Take the time up front to model your data for scale and then make the call based on a meaningful TCO analysis.
@kylone1
@kylone1 5 лет назад
It seems to me that Data warehouse experts say Relational Databases (RPBs) are poor at OLAP at scale, and NoSQL experts say that RDBs are poor at OLTP at scale. It seems to me that RDBs can't scale well--these newer technologies are taking a portion of the RDBs workload and making it scale well.
@JamesSmith-cm7sg
@JamesSmith-cm7sg 2 года назад
Access patterns change? You're building a data model which works today, but when the business requires new access patterns which no longer fit, how do you handle that?
@djdawizz
@djdawizz 5 лет назад
So, I'm now in the position that I didn't know upfront that we would need another item type and so I named the partition key attribute to something that will not be applicable at all for the new item type. So for example, I'm now storing animals with a partition key like AnimalID, but I didn't know that I would also need to store the veterinarian in the same table. So probably I will need to create a new table and migrate the data and fix references to the attribute name? So I guess it's arbitrary and therefor not shown in any of the talk's examples, but how would you name the partition key's attribute if the key can be different things for different items?
@MrDoodleIt
@MrDoodleIt 4 года назад
pk is typically the best practice
@sneakyknight
@sneakyknight 3 года назад
Speaker should host an auction selling database technologies, 10/10 would buy
@abhishes
@abhishes 4 года назад
Although what happens when you add a query pattern as your application grows. That will sure shot lead to a re-architecture of the whole data model and possibly of the application itself. The data model he shows at 49:23 is very specific to the query pattern he knows at the time of modeling this app.
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 4 года назад
Adding patterns almost never requires a re-architecture of the entire model. Usually this involves decorating certain items with additional attributes, adding indexes, or modifying existing values. Unless you were completely off target when you built the app the patterns you designed for are not going away.
@MalrickEQ2
@MalrickEQ2 4 года назад
One table to rule them all.
@dguisinger
@dguisinger 5 лет назад
Any recommendations on integrating with AppSync with these access patterns? The method of using a resolver at every relationship, for a specific data type really seems to break the advantage of bringing back multiple entity types for a given primary key or gsi key.... (don't even get me started on AWS Amplify which treats DynamoDB exactly like a relational database when it creates your resources from your schema) Also, what about duplicated data within a single item? I sometimes find when I'm building GSI or LSI fields, I sometimes want to put concatenated data that already exists in a separate index in a different combination. What are your thoughts when you run across something like that? Its obviously more work to make sure the two attributes have the correct data in both.
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 5 лет назад
I duplicate data in items all the time for exactly the same reasons you point out. Sometimes there is a need for a composite key structure with an embedded numeric sort. Converting the number to a 4 byte hexadecimal string when you build the key provides a string sortable key component, but I will still have the number as a first class attribute. In fact I usually keep the data attributes on the items even when they also exist in the composite key so there is no need to unpack them when you have to access the values. I am also not a fan of frameworks that try and abstract the need to properly model your data in a NoSQL database. NoSQL requires data models to be tuned to the access patterns in order to be efficient and cost effective. There is really no way to automate or abstract denormalization since it requires that both the entity relationship model and the access patterns for the data be well understood to even start the modeling process. This is a fundamental difference between RDBMS and NoSQL that cannot be ignored.
@dguisinger
@dguisinger 5 лет назад
@@MrShredder2011 Makes sense to me, that is the direction I've gone since watching your presentation. I ended up writing a library that takes care of automating the work around those access patterns and making them easier to hit from AppSync. Classes inheriting the base table class define the entity types, their calculated attributes, etc... Since AppSync can take nested JSON structures, the code knows how to take multiple entity types from a single DynamoDB query and package them into those nested objects... and since it is aware of what attributes have calculated values, it handles PUT/UPDATE operations so the AppSync code or other client code doesn't need to know anything about those attributes. Seems to work pretty well, so far I've only consolidated groups of tables that have a lot of related data and access patterns, though I probably won't do the entire application in a single table. I'll probably stick with a few tables each covering a wide area of functionality.
@mikebannister78
@mikebannister78 5 лет назад
"don't even get me started on AWS Amplify which treats DynamoDB exactly like a relational database when it creates your resources from your schema". Amen, I don't understand why they'd ship Amplify like this?
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