Yes, Ayanokoji Very high Diffs Light. (If you’ve come here to get or see the doc again, the previous one was deleted so I luckily had another backup. I apologize for that New Ayanokoji Vs Light Doc: docs.google.com/document/d/1sZJRGtRjRtoceLvwwdn46--mYcY_wSv0WmxfC20MzKg/edit?usp=sharing Apparently, there’s no koji doc yet so here’s a light doc that we used to gather and compare their feats. docs.google.com/document/d/1ykkNSKF32erGaZ3OWcLx3nuCmyFEAepqpiZLA5O3Apc/edit
A rebunk for PSI is for this is that when that one guy did it(forgot his name) that was the first super computer and he was just testing it. The computer he beat was no where near as good as the one Koji beat. At the time they didn't even have cell phones so it's not that advanced. I think they guy who beat it was Garry Kasparov, he lost to the same computer a year later. They made the computer better and Garry Kasparov couldn't beat it even a year after whil ayanokoji beat a much newer version of a supercomputer that thinks much faster and I'd much more advanced.
@@Shrishi23 In proven ability scaling Light>=Koji In normal scaling Koji>>Light I explain: For VSI, I will show his 4 best feat and 2 best statement I know: 1. Y1V2 feat, Koji observe and analyse the building's structure, he noted the location of each camera, understanding which angle it was looking at, finding the weak points and blind spots of the cameras, keep in mind that the annex room is very big . 2. Feat Y1V3 he orientated himself on an island he had only seen once, knowing that he had no experience in the matter, he found precise points and places, found paths even though he had only been able to see the island for a short period of time from very far away. And this is not good as the island Y2V4 VSI feat: 3. Feat Y2V4 when he analyses all first year movement and he dodges all attack. 4. In Y2V7 Koji was able to gauge the distance between Ichika, Kushida and him, by that he estimate his capacity to outspeed Ichika, keep in mind that they were outdoors, so Koji has fewer landmarks to points for spatial location, that make this feat more hard. 5. Now 2 Statement: In Y1V11.5 Koji stat: "Sorry, Horikita. I believe no one is at my level in first grade ... You haven't been able to see him all this year?" In all the LN Koji always underrate himself, never overrate. In Y2V4 Tsukishiro stat: "However, Ayanokôji-kun, you're a success story who's accomplished something special in the White Room. These rules that limit you, you should get rid of them. After all, isn't it ridiculous to be competing with such insignificant people here, just for the pleasure of being a big fish in a small lake?" He has the data of the WR and the ANHS so he know what he says. By scaling Koji no-very low diff Arisu. In Y2V4 Arisu visualize an entire island of several kilometers, visualizing all the people present, so 120 first year, and 80 second year, visualize the relief, hills, mountains, pebbles in 3D, while she just saw the map on the tablet, and never went there, she stayed on the beach for the whole exam but was able to visualize the island, she did all this in real time. Koji no-low diff Arisu and it's stated as I said in Y1V11.5 and Y2V4 for example as vastly superior. So now explication of the statement, the island is stated in Y2V3 to do 24 850 000m², Y2V3 p60: "On the whole, the map was divided into 100 zones, each extending 500 meters vertically and 700 meters horizontally." So 500 * 700 * 100 = 35 000 000m², but there is 29 zones in water, and 100-29= 71, finally 500 * 700 * 71 = 24 850 000m² On this island there are 3 school years, each with 4 classes of a maximum of 40 students (there are some expulsions, but always few), so 40 *4 * 3 = 480 students. On this island we also have a lot of jungle, mountains etc... "seeing the island in three dimensions by making realistic projections in her mind" an island of 24 850 000m² with 480 people on it and relief like a dense jungle and a huge mountain Y2V4: "Sakayanagi could see the island in three dimensions by making a realistic projection in her mind. She would simulate the terrain and the people until she tried to capture the silhouette of whoever was drawing the picture." Koji is state multiple time superior to his year, (Y1V11.5 with Suzune, Y2V4 by Tsukishiro...), Koji no-low diff Arisu at max. 6.Other statement, this one from Takuya. First Takuya is level 4 where Koji is above level 10 (level beta, and level beta>level 10). In V0: "Dr. Suzukake - I explained at the time that we had created a program with 10 levels of difficulty, but that Beta was a different dimension. In fact, we considered the fifth or sixth level to be the limit of human development. Dr. Tabuchi - Indeed. The programs for the 2nd and 3rd years, which are more advanced, are a long way from the Beta program in terms of requirements. The current program up to the third generation was already hard to follow, with results that were far from remarkable. In such a situation, calling on the Beta program would simply destroy all the work done. Atsuomi - I know it's necessary, in research, to increase the difficulty little by little. But I'd like to see the human limits of the White Room right now. I don't care if they all give up. Dr. Ishida - With... your son here? Are you taking that risk? Atsuomi - My son is the one who will receive the most rigorous education." So Koji is above level 10. And for Takuya and Ichika level: "Atsuomi - Yes. The next fifth-generation students will be assigned the level-four program that was supposed to be assigned to fourth-generation students. The fourth generation is the only exception." The fifth-generation is the generation of Takuya and Ichika, because we know that he is 1 year younger, and it's state in the LN that Takuya is the best of the generation 5. Now the feat, in Y2V7 Takuya was able to calculate the distance between him and Ibuki without looking back, and hit his elbow in the right place, this being level 4, where Koji is level much than level 10.
@@Shrishi23 Potato ships feat is a bit like the Koji feat I gave to Y1V2 when Koji analyzed the building's structure, and noted the location of each camera, understanding which angle it was looking at, finding the weak points and blind spots of the cameras. Anyway Koji slam with more feat and better statement
@@WanoxEditOh shit I missed this, forgive me for that. I majorly overlooked kojis vsi feats in year 1 and year 2. I think for now, I’ll go discuss this and see if it’s actually valid (I think it is). Also yes, with this I have koji > Light in vsi. Thanks alot!
Great edit Fully agree with you. Argument that DN > Koji becuase of scaling (world level vs school) is wrong because in battle of intelligence it doenst really always important In cote its authors idea that all events will happen in one school to improve readers concentration on characters and events. So its authors limitation. In reality Koji would just escape school and destroy the world as Yagami did.
Fax agree , people mostly used that as an argument that can be easily ignored by people , since if Cote was also world level like dn then it would be a different story right . In the battle of intelligence that argument is useless , and unimportant since the main focus of this is of course intelligence . People used that argument to cope in this debate . An argument that can be easily debunked . Also agree the settings are different Cote is an advance school or like a university. Meanwhile dn is about detectives and supernatural the settings are different .
@@Shrishi23fr which is sad because Koji is most well written main characters some people use the anime to define Koji which is bad since they can’t read the light novel
@@Avery_casyrdark people don't call ayanokoji trash because they hate anime or LN, they hate him because cote has the worst fandom. Ayanokoji is a well written character but people started to overrated him.
strategy length- Light (planned for months ahead before losing his memories, Ayanokoji's feat with Ryueen doesnt compare in the slightest and it was surface level prediction at best "i will fuck around with his class until he confronts me and then I will beat his ass") strategy success rate- should be Light (Near shouldnt have access to death note which was in the bank vault) overall strategy- Light Long term planning- Light (the feat with losing memories) More difficult to counter- Light (he doesnt outsmart directly and uses others to do his bidding, for example dicked down Takada so hard she died for him while still being loyal and outsmarted Rem to kill L which couldnt be countered in any way) metacognition and composure- Ayanokoji Liar game- Light (depends on the game, in something like poker Koji would win, but for example in the 2nd game Light would be better, because of his social skills) cote exam (depending on physical attributes and strategies)- easily Koji cote exam (depending solely on strategies)- Light Direct outsmarting- Ayanokoji (Light sometimes gets outsmarted directly, for example by that guy in yotsuba arc when he made Light confirm that Higuchi is Kira) Indirect outsmarting (winning through someone else)- Light Overall outsmarting- Light (high diff, his rizz carries ngl) edit: wtf was my horrendous take lol
@@Waltu2 not extreme diffs, he can seduce most girls at ANHS (not at the same time, at the same time maybe like 2-3) to the point they will still help him right before their expulsion
1. Strategy Length Ayanokojis arc with ryuen isn’t prediction alone, It contains misdirection, deception manipulation and strategy feats at the very least, it isn’t prediction only. I’m planning to send a ayanokoji analysis on how long his strategy with ryueen is, I do get your point though. Lights memory feat is very long I will admit, and both were very hard to scale. Strategy Success Rate - May I know your reasoning as to how it goes to light? Like the Google doc said, Ayanokojis strategies are way more concrete and has less flaws. The Google doc specifically states kojis strategies in each arc. I’m pretty sure if you research in the arcs mentioned you could see how concrete kojis strategies are. Lights strategies are way more flawed, the Google in the pinned comment has the Google doc explain how lights strategies have multiple flaws and are less concrete. For the rest, you can debate majd about this. Let me know what you think
Strategy length well ,koji's strategy was from island exam until the end of v7 y1 ,and u are saying "planned "in strategy lenghth Strategy success rate =koji Tell me a strategy for koji that failed to even start the debate, Koji takes more difficult to counter, because no one can ever do that to him, and he anticipates or deduces what the other person is trying to do, in light situation at the end near succeed to counter him so how this point goes to light Liar game well LG needs many categories to do it Anticipation koji Anticipation / Predictions - Genuinely Not close Ayanokoji Anticipated Entire Growth Curve of Class D. he Anticipated Manabu And Nagumo's Actions . He Anticipated Ryuen's Strategy in the Zodiac Exam , Sports Festival , Maid Cafe exam or whatever . Anticipated Hirata and Kei's False relationship He anticipated all the events in the student council room that led to takuya's Expulsion He saw through the 1st year's Actions In The 2nd year island exam . He saw through the possibility of Housen Making use knife he used to cook for ichika . Many more feats But i am pretty sure he Anticipated Kushida's Actions , Its mentioned Kushida that Ayanokoji Knew that kushida's Blazer was never hence he didnt remove his hand on purpose ( y2 v8 ) Light has higher contingency planning not anticipation, For instance Light couldnt even Anticipate Penber would report the incident on the bus , Which Naomi would investigate . Light Couldnt Anticipate a Flaw in his strategy that any person Make Light doesnt even Keep up with L's Thinking he was dumbfounded Know That Misa Was Already Under suspicion of 2nd kira . And Let me get this straight Light wasnt even capable enough to see that Changing the time of the killings and killing the agents Narrowed him down to the only suspect because L could literally see that the timings changed when the information was provided police was that kira was a student Which meant kira was A student who had police information and was investigated by one of the Fbi agents which could only be him Let's start with light Light anticipated every near's move except that he didn't anticipate that near knows light is kira and did a trap to X kira that made him lose , he didn't notice that + light didn't anticipate that near could know that light is kira and he will do a trap to him to kill him, in L arc ,people say that light anticipated L's moves but how he did it , Light knew before that the Dn could go to a person and it's easy to anticipate that he will start killing and he knew that his personality will change and that what made L less suspicious ,so it's clear that it has Dn influence on it so anticipating it isn't really hard + it has a Dn influence in it koji's anticipation depend on small details like in island exam arc for example, while light was working with near so it's much easier to anticipate near's move , ayanokouji anticipated that ryeen is on the island ,he also anticipated all ibuki moves by just seeing the camera and did a full plan about it, and ayanokouji anticipates any one's moves specificly ,also koji antcioaed ryeen's move specificlly for 5 month straight, unlike light that anticipated some near moves for example, Strategy well as I proved earlier Deception yes light takes I because of his acting skills Manipulation also light Overall eq Koji takes EP, since he sees through people by just seeing the changes on their face EE light is better in engaging emotions EU both understand emotions so could go either ways Em koji showed better composure feats so koji takes LG 3-2 Any ways W opinion, pretty much good arguments
This is just a more simplistic full-scale comparison with a good use of shakes and text. You never went overkill with shakes or effects, which is honestly how i think all Full-scale comparisons should be. Effects and transitions are cool but only really work on shorter videos if you had spammed them it would have only hurt. TlDR; Goated edit.
There are some debatable categories, but in general i agree (although for outsmarting diff I would say higher and for overall intellect lower, Light has no feats in this regard like ayano) But anyway, as always, goated edit & W opinion Shrishi 🗿🍫
@@Majd14687 everyone always focuses on all of the mistakes that light made through out death note, their like "light made alot of mistakes that led him to losing" but they forget all of the good things that he did too
@@technicallypurple1610Nah, not really most. I’ve focused on lights feats for the most part, me and majd barely looked at lights mistakes. Lastly, people tend to overrate light a lot nowadays. Which is why most people start to look at lights mistakes.
Light mid-high diff, he operates with way higher stakes and on way higher levels, Ayanokoji is playing easy mode while Light is playing extreme mode, so when they have nearly equal feats in these environments Light simply wins
Bro i want to say a few things. Imo Koji gets self regulation, self management and overall planning. In other comments you agreed that koji takes self awareness, which as i see it is false, because light pull up with an incredible self awareness feat in the memory loss arc, while koji has not feats(as far as i'm concerned). Regardless of that i really enjoyed your video. I encourage you to organised more your stat distribution, since some of the points that correspond to certain categories where missing or out of place. Anyways keep going bro👍.
@@Shrishi23 i said that planning probably goes to koji because i consider the best koji plans to be better than the best light plans: Finding x>memory loss Yagami expulsion>end of death note
I do agree with you ngl. Lights slip ups were either him missing something crucial or accidentally leaking something to L. Metacognition to Light well, I haven’t really seen kojis Metacognition feats yet. Also, according to cento lights memory plan was based on Metacognition so that’s why I gave it to light. I will change it though since many people disagree with that point.
@@Shrishi23Oh ic I didn't know that the memory plan was based on metacognition. I guess then Light takes it. I said it because from the portrayal of Ayanokouji's character he should have great awareness and understanding of his own thought process. Much more than Light. I agree with the outcomes and the overall difficulty though. W edit + song choice
Koji takes everything except nfs because light has that stupid book. I personally don't really like Koji as a character because the writer made him a literally more evolved human being than the rest of them.
Fri to koji Proofs Logical thinking is close and problem solving to koji Pattern recognition koji(card feat+chess feat+gummy bear feat) CPI to koji since koji gets PSI and WMI then koji gets FRI Well show me any koji VSI feat Well arisu >light in VSI but I don't know any koji VSI feat to put him above light W opinion regardless
@@Shrishi23 well still the overall will be high diff or higher because of light getting buffed by nfs, manipulation and overall RLS Well but in general outsmarting it can be mid diff and in intellect low -mid diff but still the diff in overall is high
@@Shrishi23 Thanks for not Fanboying I have seen and Heard so many Ayanokoji Fanboys Underestimating and Downgrading Light yagami. I mean Even if he looses he is still a GOAT of a Super Genius Character he isn't going down Easy.
@Shrishi23 My only question is, as I've seen, several people give VSI to Light, and I saw in your document that Koji doesn't have VSI feats. So I may be misunderstanding this, but would the following feats not count towards VSI: - Perfectly judged distances by eye and being able to judge his surroundings to pull of similar feats to Yagami when he 1 shot Ibuki in the Student Council Room - Judged the shoe size and gender of the person who the footprint belonged to also by eye - Analyzed the patterns of tasks on the Year 2 island exam in order to anticipate where the next water station task would appear so that he and Nanase got there before the task was even set up or appeared on the map - Mapped out the entire island in the 2nd island exam in his mind (there are hints towards him doing this, but there are other character with more solid feats of doing this such as Arisu, Ichika and Koenji and in all likelihood Koji should scale to those characters in VSI) When it comes to BB, then I can definitely say it is debatable, if not that VSI goes to BB, but Light doesn't have VSI feats as impressive as BB, but again I may be misunderstanding and the feats I mentioned above may not even constitute as VSI, hence why I am asking.
@@xandercrow3400Ooo That’s actually some good points there I must admit myself. I’ll ask this to cento and majd if this would count as vsi. I might’ve missed that point so I do apologize in my failure to notice these types of feats. Thank you 🙏
Light >= Koji is valid for me, since I actually did have that before. Light = Koji remains valid but it feels weird for me. I still have koji very high diffing though.
@@RighteousServant1My bad. I apologize for overlooking that. Here’s the backup one docs.google.com/document/d/1sZJRGtRjRtoceLvwwdn46--mYcY_wSv0WmxfC20MzKg/edit?usp=sharing
@@Shrishi23 I see but the chess feat has been debunked harder than Johan. Light's potato chip scene is a PSI feat. However, I've seen alot of people debunk some of those feats of koji, but overall still solid document and am open to learning as I am neutral in 1v1s,eventhough I like DN more as a manga.
@@RighteousServant1For psi another thing you can accumulate is Ayanokojis flash mental arithmetic feat. I mean through some statements you can get light to the same level, but I still believe kojis psi > Light. For the chess feat I ain’t really sure. I think there’s someone in the pinned comment replies who rebunked it so you might wanna discuss it with him. Though the potato chip does have some psi feats it still isn’t enough for koenjis and arisu’s psi feat which is also flash mental arithemtic. Also yes credits to majd (he mostly did all of it) and he’s the stole reason I changed my opinion. Though it’s respectable that you like dn manga more thsn cote and still are neutral about it. I do quite agree too, I like death note more than cote ngl.
@@kratugautam304Lmao, Whitenroom is a hax?? It's literally an institution that's grounded in reality and Koji was simply made better by the White Room, he was literally born a genius and with mutated genetics that gave him an upper hand. The amount of level you guys descent to make your favourite characters win is just plain madness.
@@kratugautam304 You just showed your ignorance, didn't you? The Whiteroom isn't just about creating the smartest people, it's also about expanding the mental and physical limita of individuals to the maximum limits. Lvl 4 is the maximum human limits and no normal human can surpass that, I don't think Light would have been able to endure all thr mental anguish and pressure that the WR students received throughout the regime, especially because to reach Takuya lvl you have to relinquish a lot of your human emotions. Light would never have reached Koji's level even if he had been given WhiteRoom education, because Koji surpassed lvl 10, the highest lvl in Whiteroom and he was able to do it only because he was blessed with mutated genes thst gave him superhuman adaptability and memory. Don't make random excuses, Koji was also born genius, and just by getting Whiteroom education students don't make geniuses because those who fail to live upto the standards physically, mentally and academically are kicked out. Koji beats Light high diff everytime.
Just tell me how tf can Ayanokouji win against light? Ayanokouji is manipulating literal High school girls Though i agree that there iq is also pretty high but that feat doesnt come even close to manipulating the world's BEST detective who has solved more than 100 cases world wide solves BB'S los angeles case while no one could do it Light literal manipulated A SHINIGAMI outsmarted the entire japan police force manipulated the entire japan into thinking what he was doing is right and you guys still think ayanokoji can win......? *Sighs* I am tired of this just continue what you believe i am done
@@Shrishi23 Bruh I stated the truth light wins against Koji and I even gave the proof by feats Anyways debate over just Continue to think that ayanokoji wins
I don’t think you read the google doc in the pinned comment explaining how koji beats light, I even gave a light doc and compared it with kojis feats. Going by your logic, lelouch no diffs koji since he ruled the world manipulated Britannia and the black knights. I’m sorry, but I don’t think that argument is in any way valid.
You should’ve read the doc in the pinned comment it’s all there. Liar game mostly depends on strategy anticipation and planning (according to majd the other person who helped me) There’s proof in the doc on how koji takes strategy, anticipation and light takes planning which is why I said koji very high diffs in liar game. I respect your opinion ❤
@@Shrishi23 ok the dude name fax Majid right 😂. That dude lost to SSC in light vs Ayano Deb you should ask to SSC about this he Will give you proper feat
@@Animedy01 u only have stupid arguments like always with no proofs My debate with ssc will continue after 2 weeks I can prove that Don't create things from ur head
