B-25 Emergency Landing Las Vegas McCarran! Scott Perdue of Flywire Story - InTheHangar 

This is the textbook teachable moment on the emergency authority of the PIC. Great job.

As an active controller (commenting in a private capacity here, not speaking officially) and as a pilot, it's almost unbelievable that a controller would say no to a pilot with a declared emergency. There would have to be a truly compelling safety threat for a controller to even think about saying no. Even if a controller thought that the pilot was faking an emergency for some reason, we should still approve the pilot's request and any potential fakery can get sorted out later.

Thanks a ton gang for bringing Scott back on and giving him a second opportunity to tell this unbelievable story! Scott rocks! If I was that controllers supervisor, I would be sending that bozo out the door with a pink slip, and my best wishes on your new career in the food service industry!

O M G! Declaring an emergency and ATC goes rude..... Glad you are all safe and you saved the day!

The King of Jordan is one hell of a pilot himself with multiple combat sorties in multiple war zones. In addition to loving military & civilian aviation, he is also a huge supporter of tier one special operations units around the world. I’m sure he got quite “kick” out of his unique engine out landing in Las Vegas. Great story !

Well done. I might have got a little unprofessional with that controller. He needs remedial training in my opinion. Thanks for the video!

Great job Scott. I'm glad you got her down safely..

It is important to remember that ATC is not a controller but a coordinator, THE PIC is the controller. Ref 91.3

Thank you for putting this out there. This should be required viewing for every student.

If I was that VIP I’d want Dan or Scott at the helm. Well done!

I love hearing your experience! Greater than gold!

That was a strange reaction from ATC. From everything I've heard, most ATC's are very helpful in giving you anything you need to get that plane down safely on any runway you want.

As a retired controller and a pilot I am embarrassed.

Scott, you saved the lives of your passenger's lives that day. No wonder they wanted to soak up your rays!

Scott should have told the controller to copy a number……. :-)

I’ve been waiting for this one!

Sorry to hear the bad news but I’m glad everything turned out OK! I am equally glad you were not flying a Martin B-26 Marauder widow maker!

I fly into Henderson often and Vegas approach can be difficult at times some are nice but there are always a few that aren’t.

Had I been flying that day, I would've been tempted to tell the controller that if I couldn't land at Las Vegas then I was going to Nellis instead, since I'm sure they'd have a nicer welcoming party. Watching another channel who puts out videos of interesting ATC interactions and emergencies, it's not the first time I've heard of a LAS TRACON controller getting an attitude when handed an emergency aircraft.

Great episode Dan and Christy, thank you. What an amazing story. Great job Scott. 🤘🇺🇸🛩️

I've seen videos where the pilot was thankful the controller reminded him about something important during the stressful situation so I think controller input can be a good thing as long as the advice is correct. When I was a student pilot I was talked out of flying to Augusta Georgia during the Masters by a controller who stated that due to traffic load it wasn't a good place for a student pilot to be. I hadn't even considered that during my prefllght planning.

There is a story about an incident in wich the pilot in comand (if I recall well I guess it was a Twin Beechcraft) suffered a stroke and passed away. He was an elder Senior, and the person in the right seat declared an emergency to ATC. More than one controller helped this unexpeienced pilot through all the way until the plane landed safely with no other damages. If I remeber correctly, the controllers were awarded, distiguished and placed as an example of good profesionalism. Amazing story from Mr Perdue, BTW. As always, cheers from NE Patagonia, Argentina.

Wow.Hard to imagine the ATC understood with that king of reaction. I would hope they got a review as a result.

I had an in flight emergency on the way back from Oshkosh this summer. A loss of power and rough engine (turns out to have been a failed crankshaft) in my A36 Bonanza. The controller was spot on appropriate and helpful. I landed safely at a large airport just 5 minutes away.

I heard this story some time ago but I didn't know it was Scott.

Wow. Another great and informative video.

Great video. Considering the VIP he had on board, I am surprised the State Department was not all over it. Crash with that head of state would have been a big big problem. Great a flying!

Good job brother 👏

Ignorance can be bliss at times. I bet the entourage found out about the incident at a later date. Scott was the man for the job. Cool as a cucumber on the outside. I have no idea of internal discomfort. Been following Flywire with Scott Perdue over the last 6-8 months. I am glad he served our country well.

Had an encounter one day with the approach controller going into KPAE (Paine Field, Everett, Washington). I was VFR on top and I'd just lost the vacuum pump (pressure pump, it was a Bonanza). Now I needed to let down through a solid undercast without benefit of gyros. I advised Approach of the situation and requested the ILS 16. His reply was: "Okay." I waited. No vectors. No altitude restriction. No clearance. Nothing. Just, "Okay." Non-pilots are usually overwhelmed by "all the dials" in a typical cockpit. The same holds for radio communications with ATC. How do pilots get all that down, figure it out and then fly it? The secret sauce is knowing what to expect from ATC. Their instructions (usually) fall into nice slots and so the job of hearing, understanding and flying is made a lot easier. But if ATC says, "Bonanza 2111Q, you're cleared for a ham and cheese on rye, side of onion rings, and hold the mayo" my pencil would come to a dead stop. "Huh?" ATC's "Okay" was that kind of moment for me.

Also did you have enough range to make it to Grand canyon airport?

I don't know if that controller should be fired but he should at least have gotten called out on the carpet and reprimanded heavily and then required additional training. His first job is safety. Any declared emergency is an automatic first priority with no ambiguity.

Sounds like Scott got a controller that was having a bad day. We're all only human - it happens. Just glad it wasn't a rookie that this controller was talking to - that may have ended badly for everyone. Also glad that incident turned out to have the best outcome possible. Pax walked, and the aircraft lived to fly another day - a win-win!

That approach controller needs to be fired or forced to resign

I once had this happen to me as a Delta connection captain going into DTW. We were single engine in moderate icing and ATC wanted to put us on a 20 mile downwind to final. We said unable, proceeding direct to the final approach fix. He actually transmitted an angry audible sigh (like he was having the bad day). Pilot in command exercising Emergency authority, Aviate, navigate communicate! What else is there to say.......

Lost transponder talking to approach, Got booted from McCarran,sent to Henderson after refueling (OAT 114°) took off during Climb out Damn thing Vapor locked,min.pwr.Returned missed those bolders, cleaned seat-cover,inspect pwr plants,tried to get "into have transponder looked at in Vegas:-( left next morning flew to Boise had transponder fixed ,flight following to Minden,closest Midair to date, Remember the Good old days during the Controller strike ?? Dan, Mrs Wong.& OF COARSE Scott ,hugs & Handshakes great show with Good people 👍

May day, Emergency, Pan pan, It's not safe to assume those calls and procedures are crystal clear?!? Scary stuff. 8( JMHO --gary

4:25 it’s Frenchman Mountain.. not Sunrise mountain. Sunrise mountain is the next one north, on the north side of Lake Mead Blvd. Look it up on a VFR sectional! It’s very common for Vegas locals to make this mistake!

Alway good stuff!😎

Has anyone found the ATC communication from this event? I’m sure tons people would love to listen to it.

Not a lot of people know this but my picture actually was taken at the Strat in Vegas!!!!!!!!!! Overlooking McCarren.

WIth the exception of one incident, and the controller couldn't have done anything about it anyway, so I can't blame them, I've always had excellent interactions with controllers. But, then again, I was flying in the mid 70s to early 80s, things were slightly different back then. As to this particular controller, what goes around comes around. I'm sure that he will be having a conversation (if it hasn't happened already) with his superiors. At least I hope so. If he doesn't, then someone higher up the chain isn't doing their job. The FAA can't not know about this by now. As to what you can do and can't do, PIC, Pilot In Command. I'll land on the National Mall in D.C. if that's what it takes to keep me and my passengers alive. I'll deal with the consequences after we're safely down, and if ATC doesn't want to do that, then someone needs to re-evaluate their career choices.

You must follow up with the FAA about the controller. He should be fired or at least disciplined and retrained. Don't let this go.

My friend Bob Golo crashed, died and burned, in his CE310 out of North Las Vegas, near Henderson, on 29-OCT 2021. Engine failure. I wish he had actually declared an emergency and landed on 8L or 8R, as I think he would have landed safely and still been alive (along with his passenger who also is deceased).

Is this on VASAviation?

I sure hope the controller was fired over this!

I heard about this on another channel. I'd want to file a grievance.

Who was the Head of State?

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G'day, Yay Team ! The factor which may become problematical, as it did in this case, is the the type of person who applies to become an Air Traffic CONTROLLER..., is entirely likely to be somewhat driven by overcompensated Inferiority Complexes..., which is why they crave positions of Authority - whereinat they get to tell other people what to do. When they're well-fed and rested, and not overworked, they can usually maintain an apparently reasonable Affect ; but if they're run a bit ragged then their inner Dictator may well grab control of their Frontal Lobes, and they commence to demand that everybody else has to stand to "ATTENTION !" in neat straight lines, and march around performing the Goose-Step as per the Martinet's dictat. Clearly, Scott encountered one of these intrinsically flawed and dysfunctional individuals when they were feeling rather too possessive of "their" Runway and sacrosanct intentions for the Traffic-Pattern within the Circuit Area. Clearly, that Controller (Kontrol Freak) was past their Use-By Date..., and ideally they were afterwards promptly redeployed to something within their remaining capacities...; refilling the Office Staplers, and emptying the Wastpaper Baskets sounds like the sort of task where that Kontrol Freak should probably not be able to cause any real damage. Unlike what they attempted to make of the occurrence of a vintage Big-Twin Warbird full of International VIPs with a failing/failed Engine, attempting to alight (without lighting up) in a Crosswind... If ever anybody deserved to be retrenched following a review of their performance, then that Kontrol Freak is such a case. Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !

If this incident/accident was reported to the NTSB I feel sure that the ATC controller in question is no mystery to NTSB. I think with a little investigation and digging they can easily be found out. He just forgot what his job really was about. Serving the public. Anyone who works for a government agency needs to understand that clearly. If you can't understand that then he needs to find another occupation!

I’d like to hear the ATC on this one. It’s hard to fathom any controller doing this at all. Maybe some extra drama? And if issues out near Grand Canyon why not land there at the airport at the south side it’s got a long runway.

Scott never mentions whether he had co-pilot on this flight

You should care about that controller-he will kill someone

It's not Panchito!