@Bruhhh_ did u say the nfl used to have bigger dudes lol. I'll give u a chance to correct your mistake before we continue this conversation so that I can take u seriously. Generally speaking, nfl players today are bigger than before.
Greatest player among yes, white players. Still, he was a great player. If everyone was allowed to play, then he could rightfully hold that title. You can't exclude a whole race of people and still get to say, "best in the world. "
This is ridiculous. Ruth played with Gehrig, who played with Dimaggio, who played with Mantle, who played with Pepitone, who played with Mercer, who played with Munson, etc.,,, What changed. They all excelled from era to era. Baseball was the national pastime back when Ruth played. The game was more competitive. Today, a .236 hitter gets a major contract.
In Ruth prime he was around 185/190 at 6 '3" . He used a bat that ranged between 42 oz to 48 oz. His bat speed is above the average of today's players. Today players use a 36 oz to 38 oz bat. Let's not forget he could pitch.
They did train not like the do now but they did. The mound was lower, the ballpark fields were much larger, the bats were much heavier and the balls was not as lively. The man had a lifetime 340 avg and hit over 700 home runs not to mention he hit more home runs than some whole teams did back then. Yea he could compete in todays game. That ball would explode off his bat in these little parks
@@khabbad you’re emphasizing how he had a lifetime batting avg of 340 the dude played against plumbers and firefighters topping off at 80 mph. He’s not doing shit vs players now with that dopey swing he had
If he played today, he'd have the same advantages that today's players have over previous generations (advancements in weight training, nutrition, medicine, scouting, etc.)
Exactly we would have man with his raw power plus an extra 30 pounds of muscle and 60 less pounds of fat plus he hit 350 with 50 homers a year with his old body with his new body he’d have more. Power than anyone else ever
@@jadenbrown8822these mfs acting like eating healthy wasn’t allowed back then 😂😂😂😂😂 it’s Ruth’s fault he was a fat slob, he absolutely could not play Major League Baseball in todays game
Ruth’s natural talent would excel in todays game just as it did back then. The man hit volumes of 450ft+ homers which a lot of big leaguers have never sniffed. He played at a time when pitchers didn’t track pitch count, threw spitballs, the strike zone was larger, bigger fields with deader balls and bats, all day games..
Here is an interesting fact; for all that is mentioned today about pitchers losing their effectiveness after a hitter has seen them a couple of times in a game, Ruth hit more home runs in the first inning than any others in his career.
If Ruth played today, he would have the kind of training that they didn’t have then, and he would’ve been hitting a much more lively ball. It’s all about the eyes, the wrists, timing,and strength, which he had, and he would’ve had it today as well!
He would have a hard time making it past AA today and I say this as.a Yankees fan. The guy made the HOF launching home runs to the right field at Polo Grounds which was a laughable 285ft, off pitchers who threw 70-80 mph "fastballs". Babe Ruth was an excellent ballplayer--for his era. It is easily seen that any measurable world record from 100 years ago in other sports like running, swimming, weightlifting, high jumps etc. would be demolished by the modern athlete. Putting a modern AAA slugger in 1920s would be called batting practice in a little league field (again, 258ft to right!). Also, feel free to search "Ty Cobb swing" for footage of how awful the form and mechanics of other old-school HOFers were. Await all the thumbs downs from folks who can't handle facts now : )
Babe Ruth threw 100 mph as a pitcher. He was 6' 2" tall and topped out at 215 lbs. Whether or not he'd dominate today is questionable but could he compete with today's players,, yes!
Pitches were measured different back then. When retroactively testing the pitches with how they are measured today, they were still getting up to 100mph.
@@stevebetker829they wear helmets today because guys can throw 105mph. Getting by that in the head can seriously damage your brain, maybe even kill you.
Dude, he was the highest icon during an era marked by baseball. That's something today's players will never do. Heroes get remembered but legends never die (not my quote).
He played with Lou Gerig. Who played with Joe Dmaggio. Who played with Ted Williams. Who played with Hank Aaron. Who played with Reggie Jackson. Who played with Barry Bonds. Who played with Alber Puljols. Who played with Mike Trout. Who played with Ohtani. (I'm talking about leauges not just on being on the same the teams. Even though lot of those guys did play literally with each other on the same teams)
Babe was tested by an independent athletic agency. He was found to have superior hand eye coordination and reflexes even to other baseball players. Which is the real key to baseball. He would have fit into these times and been as effective as he was then. The greats would always be great.
These have to be the dumbest arguments, to compare a game over 100 yrs ago is trolling to its finest degree. To be a true student of any game is to admire what that person was able to do during their time and the lasting legacy he left
You can’t say that about the Wilt Chamberlain although he wasn’t around until the very late 50s. He would be a superstar in any era. They had to change the rules specifically because of how dominant he was.
In 20 or so years there will be another player (We’ll talk basketball for instance) that will be the next jordan or lebron and they’ll say the same thing that jordan or lebron wouldn’t be able to shine his shoes. These debates will go on forever. Times change, eras change, generations change (you get the point right?) lol
The 1920s league also banned the best black and Latin players from even playing. Thus, the 1020s league did not include the widest pool of talent and competition.
The big thing we forget about lot of times is the way men were raised back in babes time. Much much harder than we are. Babe was probably more man at 20 than most of us our whole lives. I think babe would still be very good today. One big difference is now days just more of us are good.
I think if you gave the Babe a few years he would easily be an above average player in todays mlb. You can make a pretty easy case that Babe Ruth was the most talented baseball player of all time, and if he grew up during our era he would dominate it.
Thats a misconception that pitchers didn't hit 100 mph back in the day. They just had no way of knowing how fast they were pitching. Especially once the dead ball era ended.
The mound was higher up back then which gave pitchers an advantage plus the fields were a lot larger. If he had all the amenities today’s players have he would kick ass in any generation.
Pitchers weren't throwing 80 mph back in the 20's. Also, he hit more homeruns than some teams at the start of the 20's, so he was special. Although, it seems commonsense that he wouldn't be able to use such a heavy bat in modern times.
In my opinion he was playing 100 years ahead of his time. If he played today he wouldn’t be drinking, eating like that. So if we take his numbers vs the league 100 years ago and plug them into today and straight line it he would equate to 140 homeruns and 290RBi
Ridiculous......there were people born in the early 1900's who had crazy, God given abilities.....just like today. Babe was gifted with loads of talent and hand eye coordination.......and it would show today just like it did then. Sometimes people think modern humans are somehow born "better" than those born centuries ago......false.
As a former history major, I still say you cannot put people in an era in which they didn't live. Life itself changes and taking people out of their era would be an erroneous comparison.
Women, hotdogs, cigars (in the dug out!) beer..staying up late. Mickey Mantle in the 50'/60's, that stuff caught up with him, in his knees, but was a fantastic world series home run hitter in the clutch, 18 in all. Robert at 69. Hiw many of todays ball players today would do that stuff today and truly be 'great'.these few players WERE great in a fewer shortened years..Daryl Strawberry, Keith Hernandez, Steve Howe, and some others. Robert at 69.
If he was in todays game, he’d be working out every day, having his diet monitored, and kicking ass. It would be him and Ohtani for the title of the two best in the world
I wish I had been able to play little league. I only played sand lot as a kid and later in company soft ball leagues. I read about Babe Ruth. He really really really ‘had play’. He always knew (within a fraction of a second) what to do, and did it. This ability compensates.
He would have hit today yesterday and in the future. It was his reflexes that were exceptional. Look at his contemporary Lou Gehrig. He was built like a modern athlete yet the Babe still out hit Gehrig. Then you have to look at distance of his home runs. The babe regularly hit home runs over 500'
Ruth would have hit 80 home runs a season in today's MlB. The guy swung a 42 ounce bat. Imagine him swinging a 32 ounce bat today hitting a lighter ball....
If Ruth was so pedestrian, why didn't all the hitters hit like him in his era🤔 Fact: Only 5 players in mlb history had a 60 runs Season, Ruth was the first
The fact that you are speaking of Babe Ruth 75 years after his death says enough for me. Pitchers topped out at around 90 mph in the 20s. Fact number 1, he spanked them. There is a reason the homerun revolves around Ruth. It took DECADES for players to catch up. Fact number 2, players are still filled with moonshine, cigars, women and hotdogs.
I totally agree. Every sport has different eras which is why it is so ridiculous to always bring up the GOAT. There is no such thing no matter who agrees or disagrees. Each era had changes/advancements to not only equipment but obviously the players themselves. Some today would not have been as good in certain times but some old timers might just be very capable now but guess what…it doesn’t matter because it is IMPOSSIBLE to determine. If you truly are a sports enthusiast, you more than likely agree and enjoy your sport(s) by each era and not just as a whole. 🤷♀️🇺🇸👍
Give Ruth a modern bat. Have you ever been to Cooperstown? Nobody in the league today could hit above .100 with his bat. Not to mention he wouldn't be able to live the same lifestyle without getting in trouble with his team so Ruth would have been forced to make lifestyle changes. Which no doubt would have made him even better. You cant deny his hand eye coordination, reaction time and power.
If babe had one year in the league with spring training he'd have 50+ bombs and 100 rbi and Most likely get signed to mookie betts like contract. Not every pitcher he faced had a 80MPH fastball and when they didnt have heat they had crazy movement. He'd be just fine.
Muhammad Ali said that it was impossible to compare athletes from different generations because of progress made in knowledge, training and nutrition If Ruth was born in this era, he would have benefitted from better nutrition and training techniques. He would have been a better pitcher. He would have been taller, quicker and had better training on hitting. Also during his career he had no one chasing his home run production. If he played now he would have known that there were others to compete with and would have tried harder, When he played, the season lasted 156 games. With an additional 6 games per year he would have added to his totals in hitting. Medical treatment for injuries and illnesses are also much better now. Plus, he and his teammates would fly by air instead of riding railroads.
You never heard of Walter Johnson? Back in the day, when a baseball was more like a spongy Nerf ball after being beat up for nine innings, he could chuck that thing 90 miles an hour. I can only imagine how fast he could throw an actual baseball with stitching on it.
Ruth's unruly period ended about halfway through his career he was a ground breaker in the off season training regimen he did flexibility training and caustetics Year round while most guys had off season jobs so your basic premise is flawed second the fact that pitchers didn't throw as hard meant the hitter had to provide all the power and with a heavier ball to boot
Baba Ruth was 6'2" 215 lbs. I have no idea where he got 280 from. Also, when he reached 30 he hired a personal trainer because of the abuse he put on his body. If you see highlights of him with the number 3, than he was anywhere between 34 & 39, because the Yankees put numbers on in 1929. I have read that Albert Pujols went through a test that Ruth did to measure bat speed. Both men were 26 & A.P. swung a 31.5oz bat at 86.77mph & B.R. swung a 54oz bat at 75mph. I would think Ruth would have matched up well with him if he swung a 31.5 oz bat instead of 54.
It's very simple: if Babe Ruth played today, he'd be born in the 80's, 90''s or 00's, instead of 1895. So he would grow up being used to faster pitchers with better stuff, play with better equipment...and something tells me he'd be a little more motivated to lay off some of the shenanigans if a 40 million dollar a year contract was being dangled in his face. How good would he be? I don't know. But how good would Shohei Ohtani be if you set back his training, equipment and nutrition 100 years? We also don't know.
They started wearing numbers on the jerseys in 1929, so he is at least 34 here. Most video of Babe is in his later years. I would bet the younger, in shape Babe, could compete now
You saying no pitchers threw 92mph? I think you’re mistaken. If so then the same bat on the ball, put into play, still applies. I bet Ty Cobb, Joe Jackson and John “Black Bomber” Beckwith could ALL shine today
