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BACK BUTTON FOCUS Explained! - Why you will NEVER go back - Bird Photography Secrets Revealed 

Jan Wegener
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BACK BUTTON FOCUS - What is it, and why is it so GREAT!?
Back button focus is often the topic for heated debates, a lot of pros use it and most other bird photographers are confused by it. What does Back button focus actually mean and why is it so great to use for bird photography?
In today's bird photography video I will tell you exactly what it is, why it's great, and how you can use it, too!
Are you using it already for your bird photography or have you used it and didn't like it? Let me know in the comments!
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Комментарии : 462   
@cathyash6653
@cathyash6653 Год назад
I've watched countless Back Button Focusing videos before, but they frequently leave out crucial information. This one is by far, the most thorough and clearly explained. What a great job!! Thank you so much! Subscribed!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@johnsamuelmcelroy
@johnsamuelmcelroy 4 года назад
I've used BBF combined with shooting in manual for about a year now and can't believe how much better results I've gotten as a result. Like you said, there's a learning curve but once you've got it there's no turning back!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
awesome! That's what I do, too
@byronhakanson3718
@byronhakanson3718 4 года назад
Such an awesome video as always Jan! I’ve used back button focus for years and I absolutely love it. Makes it so much easier for flight shots. 👍
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
thanks mate! Great to hear that
@dirkjung8438
@dirkjung8438 2 года назад
Hallo Jan! Tolles Video und zudem die beste Erklärung zu diesem Thema die ich bisher gefunden habe. Werde es gleich mal ausprobieren! Vielen Dank
@JaredEagles
@JaredEagles 4 года назад
I switched to back button focus for my birding about 2 months ago, and you're totally right. I'm never going back.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Great to hear! It opens up a whole new world
@Duade
@Duade 4 года назад
Excellent video mate, well explained and easy to follow. Great stuff.👍
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it
@cristinaszeraws7999
@cristinaszeraws7999 4 года назад
Ein tolles instruktives Video Highlight für jeden ernsten Vogelphotographen . Danke Jan für die wunderschönen Bilder 💙🙋🏼‍♀️
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
danke fuer die netten Worte :)
@johnhitchon8043
@johnhitchon8043 3 года назад
Really glad I came across your channel, Jan. A big fan of back button focussing it’s awesome.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
Awesome! Thank you!
@Lil-JensStudio
@Lil-JensStudio 2 года назад
Like the previous post, I have watched more RU-vid photography videos than I can ever count. Your tutorials are well presented and extremely helpful. I will be giving this back button focus a try first thing in the morning and I am confident it will resolve some of the focusing challenges I have experienced in servo mode. Thanks so very much and keep up the excellent work!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Awesome, thank you!
@rochelleuechtritz5065
@rochelleuechtritz5065 4 года назад
superbly explained thank you for sharing your wisdom, Jan.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@craigb8379
@craigb8379 4 года назад
Another great video, Jan, and a very clear explanation of where you see the advantages of BBF.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Glad it was helpful! Thank you Craig
@shawngerman2540
@shawngerman2540 2 года назад
Hello Jan, I’m relatively new to photography so still learning so much… I’ve been hearing about ‘back button focussing’ a lot and so started my journey down the ‘RU-vid’ rabbit hole, in search of informative videos about the subject. Well, after a whole lot of confusion, I came across this one.. thank you! Clear, practical and …the birds..wow! Thanks again. *(and yes,, I have definitely started using it..😊)
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful! :)
@tamerragheb4234
@tamerragheb4234 2 года назад
Excellent Jan.. just another great explanation for it. Well done keep the good things!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Thank you! Will do!
@MAKE_PHOTOGRAPHS_ANYWHERE
@MAKE_PHOTOGRAPHS_ANYWHERE 4 года назад
Excellent explanation of it. You did a great job!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Thank you kindly!
@Kathy5562
@Kathy5562 4 года назад
Great video on explaining this technique Jan, I switched over to BBF years again and really love it!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
thanks Kathy :) Glad you enjoyed the video.
@ianfirth-clark5975
@ianfirth-clark5975 4 года назад
I have only recently switched to back button focus and still getting used to it. Your video is the best Ive seen to date in explaining the benefits. Thank you Jan
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Glad to hear that, I was surprised how tricky it actually was to explain a fairly simple concept. Starting to use BBF and then sticking with it until it feels natural is the hardestb part.
@jspool
@jspool 3 года назад
Thanks! This is the first explanation that has me inspired to train myself to do this with my R5. Excellent video!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
Great to hear! You might find my video about settings up the R5 helpful, where I use double BBF
@scherzomio
@scherzomio 4 года назад
Grear video very clear. I will try it !
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Great! I hope you don't find it too strange to start of with!
@charliesonnemann7372
@charliesonnemann7372 4 года назад
great video, definitely gunna try this out! id love to know how you take such fantastic videos of birds.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
thanks mate!
@robertbohnaker9898
@robertbohnaker9898 3 года назад
Great review. Nobody has spelled this out in such detail that demystifies it . Makes great sense ! Thanks Jan.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
awesome :)
@wildnature4161
@wildnature4161 4 года назад
I never liked usual BBF but instead I use inverted BBF which is basicly taking photos the normal way, and when bird lands and does not move I press AF ON button to turn off my AF completely. This allows me to take the best out of both worlds. Also it makes my thumb free to move AF point when some mammal is moving slowly, I can move my joystick around and when it stops, and f.e. looks in the other direction I just press AF ON to stop my camera from focusing. But I guess it is just personal preferance ;) Great video Jan, love it.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
interesting way to set it up. Thanks for the insight. As you say in the end it's important to do what's best for you. Thanks :)
@huubvankesteren4185
@huubvankesteren4185 5 месяцев назад
Great video again Jan. Thank you for the clear explanation, the good examples/advantages and the great pictures you shared in the video. I really like BB focus since it gives me way more control.
@steverubin6725
@steverubin6725 4 года назад
I’ve recently started doing more serious wildlife photography (well, before COVID-19 anyway) and read about back button focus and switched to it. There’s still some “muscle memory” that has to happen, but you’re points are spot on. I heard about these points somewhere else and that convinced me and I’ll never go back. Thanks for a great video.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Hi Steve, yes, it certainly takes getting used to, but then it's great :)
@jimpeyton7736
@jimpeyton7736 2 года назад
Wow!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you! Finally I found someone (you) who properly explained back button focus. Everyone else said you have to use BBF, but always they made it seem so complex, that only an expert photographer could even think of doing it. I just followed your steps and now I am set to go. And I did have a huge problem of losing focus because of having the front button doing two things at once. You are like a magician explaining his secrets, I hope the other pro photographers don't get mad at you!!!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Happy to help!
@mpmcclell
@mpmcclell 4 года назад
After several years of doubt I shifted to BB focus two years ago. After a very short adjustment period I can't imagine ever going back. So much better!!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Great to hear Mark! The beginning is a bit confusing, but then it's just great
@CamillaI
@CamillaI 4 года назад
Totally agree especially if you want to shoot flying shots, it certainly takes a couple of weeks to get over a life time of half pressing the shutter button. But once you get the hang of it even landscapes now I take using the back button. Great demo. I think you nailed it
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Thanks a lot! It took me a few takes to explain it properly. It's kinda a simple concept, but so against everything we know about cameras and that makes it so confusing for people. Yep, in the beginning you feel so helpless, but then you quickly see the benefits! Appreciate your comment
@Escandella118
@Escandella118 2 года назад
Great explanation!!! I finally understand the system!! Thank you!!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Glad it helped!
@josefernandocastano9580
@josefernandocastano9580 4 года назад
Thank you master!. It is a very useful recommendation!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Glad you think so!
@cindyblanck7313
@cindyblanck7313 4 года назад
Okay... I decided to give this a go, and I'm glad I did. It took a little getting used to at first, but I finally feel comfortable with it now. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us! I have learned something from every single video of yours that I have watched.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
That's great to hear, thank you :)
@briansbuildsandoutdoors4936
@briansbuildsandoutdoors4936 4 года назад
Hi Jan, Hair pulling frustration is how I would describe trying to shoot birds without using bb focus. As you know birds rarely sit still, even when they're stationary they're moving their head or tail! Back button focus was a eureka moment for me and I use it all the time now, even when I'm shooting indoors or doing landscapes. Anyway Jan, new sub here, keep up the good work. All the very best, Brian.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Thanks Brian! Yes, I never change it on my camera and use it for everything now. It just makes too much sense. As you say, birds never really sit still, so using one shot is quite hard and it's easy to get soft images
@paulhickey6896
@paulhickey6896 3 года назад
Great video, very instructive. Thanks!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@sugarplumflyjelly
@sugarplumflyjelly 4 года назад
This was a very helpful explainer. Thank you!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Glad it was helpful. Thanks!
@amerikannadigamagu
@amerikannadigamagu 2 года назад
Thank you for this video! It was very helpful 😊 I love your photos-- I follow you on IG!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Yay! Thank you!
@troutwhisperer1
@troutwhisperer1 4 года назад
Switched to BBF about a year ago. Thank you for this very educational video, which shows I still have much to learn and practice about this technique.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
That's great to hear. Glad I could give you some more insights
@thethreeislands
@thethreeislands 4 года назад
Excellent, thanks for breaking it down. I have seen other videos saying how useful it was, but it was difficult to make sense of how I could apply it usefully to bird photography. This makes a clear case. I will be giving it a try =)
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Glad it was helpful! :) I tried to watch some other videos before I did this and I could hardly understand what they tried to say haha
@808akg
@808akg Год назад
VERY helpful - thank you Jan!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener Год назад
So glad!
@madjidmomeni-moghaddam8332
@madjidmomeni-moghaddam8332 4 года назад
I found this very practical,Thank you so much dear Jan.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
You are so welcome!
@Cybot7
@Cybot7 4 года назад
I've been a convert to BB focusing for over 3 years now. I can't believe how I managed without it.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Yes! I feel the same way.
@nikilk
@nikilk Год назад
I believe I switched to BB autofocus when I watched Morten Hilmer or Nikon Ricci talk about it years ago. I loved your take on BB autofocus and it definitely gave a unique perspective. Nice job.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener Год назад
Thanks!
@menace46
@menace46 3 года назад
wonderful video. Such a clear explanation
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
Thank you!
@mirkovmbertossi6989
@mirkovmbertossi6989 4 года назад
Really helpful man! Good job!!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Glad it helped! Thanks!
@almilby1160
@almilby1160 2 года назад
Excellent explanation of back button focus, thank you. I will be trying straight away.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Great!
@Kevansjones
@Kevansjones 4 года назад
Really nice video. Having used back button focus for a number of years I didn't realise how much you can do with it. Thanks for the tips.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Thanks Kevin, glad you enjoyed it.
@DarrellOakdenPhotography
@DarrellOakdenPhotography 4 года назад
Hi Jan. I am really glad I have found your channel. It has provided lots of great ideas for my own photography. I use back button focus all of the time. As you say - I couldn't go back to using the shutter button to focus.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Hi mate, thanks for your comment and I am glad to hear you are enjoying my content
@rayfuller7704
@rayfuller7704 3 года назад
Outstanding explanation of the reasons to use back button focusing. I have not done it before and I take a lot of aviation photos, with a LOW keeper rate. I'll give this a shot. Thanks for this video!
@annecomer6894
@annecomer6894 4 года назад
Thanks Jan for explaining BBF so well, I love your videos. I have been wanting to try it for a long time but videos I watched seemed confusing and I was also very nervous of trying it. After watching your video I am going to give it at try, firstly by practicing in the garden as in isolation. Hopefully I will have the hang of it by the time I go out birding again. Can you zoom in and out while focusing? Looking forward to more of your videos. Thank you for all the time and effort you put in.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
I am glad I managed to explain it in a way that's easier to understand. You should be able to focus while zooming, but I would probably just wait until you have gotten to the right zoom length and then focus. Might be easier. But either way should work. Good luck and don't give up if it's a bit strange at the start
@jean-pierrenadeau4007
@jean-pierrenadeau4007 3 года назад
Immensely useful video. Many thanks!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
Glad to hear that!
@FrankH-sz1ln
@FrankH-sz1ln Год назад
Good explanation of how to use and why you should use, so many advantages
@chris_harry
@chris_harry 2 года назад
Superb explanation. My Nikon D500 has the AF-ON back button set for focus. Followed your instruction on turning off focussing for the shutter button and tested it out. It actually feels pretty natural and gives you more control. One of the key strengths with the back button is it wil stay put, instead of re-focussing before shutter release. Will test this out in the field very soon. Feel hopeful it will increase my success rate for birding shots. The back button focus actually feels faster with AF response as well. Thanks, Jan!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Glad I could help :)
@praharshamajeti1247
@praharshamajeti1247 4 года назад
Very useful video Jan.. i believe most of the people will actually understand the importance of Back button focus.. beautiful content..
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
thanks! Glad you liked it. I am trying to make my videos visually more appealing :)
@praharshamajeti1247
@praharshamajeti1247 4 года назад
@@jan_wegener appreciate your great work and informative content Jan. I am a huge fan of your bird images, especially on Insta..
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
@@praharshamajeti1247 thanks, much appreciated :)
@tudorjones2993
@tudorjones2993 3 года назад
Great video once again. I did give BBF a go a while ago but drifted back to the shutter button as my arthritis made it difficult to press the AF on button but will now try again with the * button as BBF has so much more going for it than I realised
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing, BBF certainly has a bunch of advantages
@keithjames9423
@keithjames9423 4 года назад
Terrific explanation Jan. Will give it a go.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Thanks Keith!
@kirkwest3721
@kirkwest3721 4 года назад
I have used it for many years now, some pro suggested times to use front button focus, I experimented but very quickly reverted to back button focus. I also have both buttons activated one for single focus point the other for continuous focusing.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Good point Kirk, I will look into assigning the AF-On button some new duties
@Zeppy007
@Zeppy007 3 года назад
From day 1 I used back button focus and never looked back! Love your style! Subscribed Jan :-)
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
Awesome! Thank you!
@15978Y
@15978Y 4 года назад
I just set this up and already am very impressed. Seems to be more accurate and faster. Thanks!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Glad you like it and great to hear it helps already!
@dennylui
@dennylui 3 года назад
I’ve stop taking photos for a period of time. And now you make me really want to go back to my hobby again after watching your video.🤔😉🙏🏻
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
You should!
@jesseestrella6025
@jesseestrella6025 2 года назад
Great explanation. I have been trying back button AF for about a month. But thanks to your video. I understand now. You broke it down to where the beginning amateur can understand. Thanks.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Glad it helped!
@gerards5858
@gerards5858 4 года назад
Fantastic video Jan.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks :)
@NishitDave
@NishitDave 4 года назад
I went back, but mostly because I was using a camera skin and shooting mostly birds in flight. I kept suspecting that the misses were higher with BBF. I guess I might have been taking my thumb off the button momentarily. Now with Sony's tracking AF, I don't need it so much.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Yes, with newer developments in the AF world, things might change again. Would be great to have AF that just knows what we want! It definitely takes getting used and one thing is, as you mention, making sure that your thumb does the focusing
@rayganrambles
@rayganrambles 4 года назад
I inadvertently discovered this while at my local zoo this weekend. Got some great shots as a result. I had been using this focus setup for landscape shots to keep the shutter button from changing my focus point.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Great to hear!
@jacobgarvelink2441
@jacobgarvelink2441 4 года назад
Haven’t tried it yet but will do so tomorrow first thing. Thanks once again for a great and enjoyable video helping us become better photographers.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Good luck! Thanks for your comment
@sharongalvin9433
@sharongalvin9433 2 года назад
Fantastic explanation.Thank you.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@sparkysteele
@sparkysteele 4 года назад
I have been using it for years I just love it Ps very well explained
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
thanks! :)
@layzeesod
@layzeesod 4 года назад
Been using B B virtually since day one, I use both back buttons for AF each has different settings: AF On is set for centre AF point only, AI Servo, and case 1 for AF characteristics. * is set for larger AF area, AI Servo and case 2 for AF charecteristics. So for birds on a stick I use AF on, for BIF I shots use the * button to use the larger AF area and better tracking, as we know with a long lens (normally use 700mm which is Canon 500f4mk2 + 1.4mk3 extender) we only get a narrow field of view which can make it difficult to locate and stay on target. Great video as always Jan, keep em coming !!!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Great tip! I shall look into those options a bit more, seems to be a good use of the AF-ON button, I am currently not really using
@SteveSSBB
@SteveSSBB 4 года назад
This is what I do as well. Keep in mind that you can also program the DOF preview button to engage yet another totally different set of AF characteristics.
@jackieboshoff2013
@jackieboshoff2013 2 года назад
That's a great tip Layzee Sod. I've been wanting to set up my 5dmrkiii like this but haven't been able to figure out how to do it. Where do you change the AF characteristics?
@upupa_epops_1000
@upupa_epops_1000 3 года назад
thankyou. thankyou. thankyou. i just didnt get it. but now i do. u explained it so well. after watching your videos u said that the last focus point using the back button and servo mode is where the focus point will stick. this is counter-intuitive to what i expected but now i see the potential of using this method. u have certainly shown an old dog a new trick.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
Most welcome 😊
@marianwhit
@marianwhit 3 года назад
I have watched a few videos and gone "huh?" You made this clear, thanks so much!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
Great to hear!
@milanchristi7939
@milanchristi7939 4 года назад
I learned to do it in about two minutes. It's the most intuitive way for me to use autofocus.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
you're a natural! Lucky you. It feels more natural that way to me now, too.
@denniswilson1407
@denniswilson1407 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much for explaining the back button focus. I'm about to take 14 students to Namibia (not far from you??) and just bought the RF 100-500 lens to go with the R5 for this trip. I've been playing with the lens and was frustrated with missed shots for exactly the reasons you brought up. It's certainly some relearning, but should solve the problem. Again, thank you. I've learned a lot from your other videos too.
@patnewton8235
@patnewton8235 4 года назад
This video was very helpful I am going to give it a try.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Glad it was helpful! Thanks :)
@jayemery
@jayemery 4 года назад
Whoa, this sounds so great! Currently I’m trying to combat some of the issues you mentioned with the AF lock, so I grab focus of the perch with the shutter, hold the lock button, and then I can release the shutter if I want to and focus is locked when I press it again. For focus and recompose, 3D tracking on Nikon allows you to use 1 point that “sticks” so you can recompose and not loose focus. Anyway, maybe this solution you detailed with the back button is superior - I’m definitely going to try it!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Interesting way you're doing it. Amazing how many things you can do to do essentially the same thing.
@aussie8114
@aussie8114 4 года назад
Never say never. I’m not a big fan, it’s in the My Menu for easy activation but I’m happy with the normal way, especially for moving subjects. Along with shutter activation set to shutter release on focus. But your video is excellent 👍🏼
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Yep, nothing wrong with the normal way! Thanks for your comment :)
@mremumerm
@mremumerm 3 года назад
slowly converting to back button autofocus for birds following your teachings, was using it for more static subject but was afraid i was too slow on finding bird to risk losing more time. All was getting fine until i had my first major setback today, something you probably won't face. It's hard to do when your finger are numb from -5 degree weather :-). Loving the channel.... i need warmer climes. maybe 2021....
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
Oh yes! It doesn't get that cold down here
@brucehanover890
@brucehanover890 4 года назад
I've only read about it, and thought it wouldn't be worth it, but I'm def giving it a try. I trash too many BIF shots and have lost out on some killer shots because of it. Might be a learning curve but I'm ready. Thanks for the kick Jan, great vid and explanation.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Thanks Bruce! Good Luck!
@deanmengel3439
@deanmengel3439 4 года назад
Great video Jan and you brought up some great points. I have tried it but still not converted as yet, will have to try again...............
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Go for it! The beginning is hard. It's not for everyone, but give it a try until it feels kinda natural
@NikCan66
@NikCan66 4 года назад
I used it for over 10 years for action/sports but a very good instructor video for people that were trying to understand what was involved
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
thanks :)
@stevecolwill9761
@stevecolwill9761 4 года назад
I have been using bbf for about 18 months now. I found I got used to it very quickly and it is now second nature. It lends itself so well to nature photography with AI servo. 👍🏻
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Great to hear Steve! I agree, it's the perfect combo for nature photography
@steveduff5157
@steveduff5157 4 года назад
Started using back button focusing during lockdown in the garden. Bit strange to start with, kept forgetting to press the AF-on button before taking the picture. After a few missed shots got the hang of it and won't go back. If you try it you have to give it a proper go, so during lockdown was brilliant.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Exactly, there's now way to avoid the missed shots early on, but once you get the hang of it, it's great
@just36
@just36 4 года назад
Yes thanks Jan and you are right! I discovered BB focussing a few yers ago and it is set permanently on my Olympus bodies. yes it takes a bit of getting used to but now its just what I do - focus and reframe every time. I must admit I still find in flight shots very difficult and I have yet to be very successful. So I guess for a question for your next video would be to explain in more detail the technique/tricks of getting nice sharp tracking focus in flight bird shots? regards Graham
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Great to hear Graham. Yes, I thought about doing a video about flight photography. Thanks for the suggestion
@jochenlambrechts9725
@jochenlambrechts9725 4 года назад
Great video, I have been using it for years and have never looked back either. Can’t you do a video with a focussing masterclass? With the best ways to focus track a moving subject etc...
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Great suggestion! I will put that on my list
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
My next video will be about AF and the last BIF one should give you some more insight, too
@maximusaugustus6823
@maximusaugustus6823 Год назад
Thank you very much, I'm a newbie and this is what I started to do now.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener Год назад
Glad it was helpful!
@chrislake8879
@chrislake8879 4 года назад
Instructive as always, Jan. I set up my 7D MarkII with two back button focus buttons. The first (AF-ON), with centre single point Spot AF and single shot drive; and the second (*), with AF point expansion and continuous drive. This configuration allows the most precise focussing for stationary birds and expanded points for birds in flight. Switching between the two modes is a simple, near instantaneous, one cm. slide of the thumb!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
I have seen people set these up in different ways. Yours sounds very interesting. I shall look into giving my abandoned AF-on button some use. Much appreciate your comment!
@johnfinch8856
@johnfinch8856 4 года назад
As a professional nature and wildlife photographer I have been doing this for many years. I have both my 7D Mk II and my 5D Mk IV set up using the (AF-ON) button for single point one shot AF, and the (*) button is set up with expansion AF point with continuous drive. Like Chris said ("This configuration allows the most precise focussing for stationary birds and expanded points for birds in flight."). This set-up gives you the quickest and most versatile use of your camera in any situation when shooting wildlife, both stationary and moving.
@DanBris
@DanBris 4 года назад
I didn't even know this was an option! Thank you I will try it.
@fathampeak
@fathampeak 4 года назад
Chris Lake and John Finch, your two-back button focus is the best idea I have ever heard. Every day I use back button focus on the * button and have to drop the camera and press buttons on top panel to switch between one shot and Servo (7DII), of course I usually miss focus on a stationary subject because I haven't switched to One Shot from servo. I just can't work out how you assign single point AF/single shot to the AF-on button and expanded/continuous to the * button? Is this done through MY Menu Tab? Also, Jan, there seems to be several variations to this idea of back button focussing, Grant Atkinson in this video uses shutter button for both AF (servo) and metering and then uses the AF-on button to stop the AF from operating. I have just set up my AF-on button to switch from One shot AF to Servo (it switches Servo to One shot as well, it just depends on which AF mode you set the top panel in first). So I really appreciate you telling us this set up of yours and look forward to more on how to do it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pYFMVnCDqig.html
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
@@fathampeak Hi Guy, the way I use it, I never need to switch the modes, I can stay in AI Servo the whole time. Which means less fiddling with buttons. When I press my star button it focuses until I let go and when I let go, the focus stays in the spot where I last focused on, just like One shot, negating the need for it. And If I wanna focus on a different point, I can just press it once, just like One Shot. The only thing I don't get is the beep confirmation.
@annecomer6894
@annecomer6894 4 года назад
Hi Jan, After watching your video I decided to try back button focus. I had heard about it but didn't fully understand it, so ignored it. Your video turned on the light bulb!!! After reading through some of the comments I decided to try the way Chris Lake did his using 2 of the buttons. Have the star button set up as single point and the AF-On for BIF. Have tried the single spot in the garden and the local park, took a few tries to co-ordinate my fingers, but my results are 100% better. Going to practice a bit more with single spot before starting to practice with BIF. Will never go back to using the shutter button. thank you so much for explaining BBF so well.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
That's fantastic to hear! :)
@Alseki7
@Alseki7 3 года назад
Good video; you did a better job explaining the advantages in simple understandable terms vs some other videos on the topic I have seen
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
Thank you, I try to keep it as simple as possible
@ralphstadus3944
@ralphstadus3944 2 года назад
The best explanation of back button focus I have seen. Makes a lot of sense for birds. I will give it a try. Many thanks.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@ralphstadus3944
@ralphstadus3944 2 года назад
Funny story. After watching your video, which made heaps of sense, I set up BBF on my Olympus camera with a travel lens, then put it away for a couple of days. Got out my birding lens and went out to take a few shots of a New Holland Honeyeaters that are nesting in the garden. Damn lens wont focus, check manual focus clutch. Turn camera off and on again, still wont focus. Uncouple lens and connect, still wont focus. The light finally dawns … BBF set up for my custom modes. Ha Ha. The positive story is I have been out shooting birds and keeper rate is definitely gone up. MANY THANKS !!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
@@ralphstadus3944 haha, yes that can happen at the start! :)
@thethreeislands
@thethreeislands 4 года назад
As a follow up video to this, I would find it very useful to know more about what sort of sensitivity/settings you have set for your auto-focus. Such as whether you have it set to lock on and stick or lose and re-acquire more frequently. Do you use one of the built in 'cases' on the 5DMkIV eg AF 'case 5' for erratically moving subjects? Would be useful for action and birds in flight shots
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
yes, I have been playing around with the cases a lot. Good point
@GalleryCoronado
@GalleryCoronado 2 года назад
You had the most logical reason for using the back button focus. It really helps on birds. My boyfriend and I both have R5's. Sometimes, it looks like it is focusing or focused, and the photo is blurry. Seems like it happens more if battery is down 2 bars. R5 east batteries for breakfast!!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Yes, it's a hungry beast
@tedshillitto6062
@tedshillitto6062 4 года назад
Very informative vid Jan well explained..been using BBF for around 12 years seems so natural. Ted Nottingham England.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it Ted. It has been a great helper for me over the years, too and I agree that it feels almost more natural now
@tommaso_redaelli_photographer
@tommaso_redaelli_photographer 4 года назад
Nice video Jan!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Thank you very much!
@ashpowell9451
@ashpowell9451 4 года назад
This sounds great, thanks a lot!
@ashpowell9451
@ashpowell9451 4 года назад
Hmm, I've just set this up and it seems like when I have the shutter pressed halfway it prevents focusing via the back button. (Like you said you do for flight shots) I'm using a Fuji X-T3, maybe this is just a limitation of this camera? Any advice appreciated if you happen to know any Fuji users!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Maybe you need to remove some function from the shutter button. Sounds like it might still be trying to focus
@CanadianArchivist
@CanadianArchivist 4 года назад
I’ve taken photographs of the moon using back button focus, and a manual adjustment. Using focus with the shutter button sometimes has a difficult locking. So once locked in place with the back button, I’ve stayed focused. I can change my composition and still get several shots without delay. The same goes with other images taken at night. I shoot minor hockey, so it is fast moving. I’ve lost some images because I’ve waited for the camera to focus using the shutter button. I use a Nikon, so i use AF-C continuous.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Yes, I think trying to use both modes at different times can be tricky. Cause you might get confused as you say
@malmedia
@malmedia 4 года назад
I never really used a DSLR so I don't even have the focus and recompose habits. I am a hobbiest and have an RP. It has 4000 af points, auto tracking, and tap tracking. So I am not sure if BBF is something I even need to consider. But I might setup something to quickly switch between single and servo.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
As long as those AF points cover the bird, you are fine, that's correct. Personally I just like to be able to control the AF independent of me taking an image. Having something to quickly switch between the modes can be another option
@peterrussell7667
@peterrussell7667 2 года назад
Jan , great section I have been using back button focus for sometime and is like you say. THE BEST . Nikon D500 .
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 2 года назад
Thanks :)
@kwakazx10r77
@kwakazx10r77 3 года назад
I simply love watching your tips, tricks and lessons! They are brilliant!! What about metering though? Do you usually meter using spot, partial, centre weighted, evaluative? Thanks again Keen, keep making these amazing videos!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
I shoot full manual, so the metering method has no effect, since I set shutter speed, aperture and ISO myself
@kwakazx10r77
@kwakazx10r77 3 года назад
@@jan_wegener thanks Jan! I realised your method regarding metering using manual, after watching another of your videos. Yours are the best vids out there for not only bird photography......very informative and straight to the point. Excellent stuff Jan 👌
@ConcealedWeapon
@ConcealedWeapon 5 месяцев назад
I use the button the other way around. I own a A7M2 and use the AM/MF button to change to MF temporarily, that way I focus with shutter button but only have to use two buttons when recomposing, thus reducing strain on my fingers. Same functionality but less button use.
@miteme
@miteme 4 года назад
You have great videos. About back button, is it necessary to press on it and on the shutter button all the time during a shooting sequence ? Thanks in advance for your help.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
It depends what you want. If you are tracking a bird in flight you have to keep it down all the time. If a bit is stationary, I just press it for a little bit to acquire focus and then let go
@miteme
@miteme 4 года назад
@@jan_wegener Thank you very much.
@pablovallejos8346
@pablovallejos8346 3 года назад
Very interesting. I will try this technique on my next trip.
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 3 года назад
It's difficult at first but then it's much better imo
@cowboy6591
@cowboy6591 Год назад
I'm giving this a shot THANX a million.
@adammann42
@adammann42 4 года назад
Last week you switched me to raw (well, jpg + raw so I have both), this week to back button focus!
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
hehe! nice, I wonder what you will have to change next week :D
@jiffijoff9780
@jiffijoff9780 4 года назад
I tried BBF and turned back to traditional focusing. I simply didn't fully understand the advantages you pointed out. Instead I used AFC constantly with very low keeper rate (Pana G9... yeah, I know DFD focus is not really the strongest method for BIF). Due to your explanation I'll give BBF another go and stick to it for a longer period. What else could you ask for from an educational RU-vid content creator? 👍 Great video there, Jan 🍻
@jan_wegener
@jan_wegener 4 года назад
Thank you :) Glad yo hear I could show you the benefits of the technique. It is certainly very hard when you start out. Personally I would keep trying until it feels kinda natural and then see whether you wanna keep going or switch back
@jiffijoff9780
@jiffijoff9780 4 года назад
@@jan_wegener thank you. If I got you right you keep pressing the shutterbutton and occasionally re-focus by BBF, while still pressing the shutterbutton, right? Seems like that doesnt work on the G9. The BBF doesnt seem to be able to interrupt or overrule the shutterbutton, while that is being pressed and the photos keep coming in. Bummer... So one needs to lift the shutterbutton, re-focus by BBF, and press the shutter again. Kinda back and forth process which considerably drops the following and focussing momentum.
@majidalig
@majidalig 2 года назад
On Sony mirrorless cameras you can switch to Direct Manual Focus where you can fine tune the focus manually by push of a custom button and then switch back to continuous focus instantly if you desired. Never needed back button focus.
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