Or the best realization of classroom and field. Nice to think everything the professor THINKS encompasses actual business class, but he needs to listen to a businessman. Otherwise the man(professor) is talking out of his ass.
I've been in logistics for 31 years and it's always funny how Administrators and Sales people think every thing looks grand on paper but then they can't figure out why it doesn't work in reality lol
This guy, (Professor Thornton), didn't know what the real world was all about, did he? He was sooooo arrogant, sooooo very smug.....and soooo totally wrong! I loved watching Mr. Mellon embarrass this clown!
When I went into the Navy, after boot camp I was sent to A School to learn the basics of my specific job. After leaving A School and getting to my ship I quickly learned that there was a lot more to the job than what was taught in the class. There were a lot of shortcuts, a lot extra real world details, some of the information the teachers taught me was completely useless, but I still had to learn them anyway, because some things can ONLY be taught in the class and some things can ONLY be taught in the field, because if you don't learn what's taught in the class first the field work won't make any sense at all. The class room is where you learn to walk, the job is where you learn to run.
I’m a retired army sergeant and semi retired from the police. I used to substitute teach at public schools mostly high schools. Most of the teachers went from being students to teachers without ever working in the real world. When studying for my law enforcement degree, my instructors all had “smelled the powder” so to say and were great teachers. In high school I had a math teacher that was a CPA for an oil field company. He was tops as a teacher.
@@raybon7939 60's for sure, but the 70's it started to decline, helped by shows like Welcome Back Kotter. In the 80's it was teachers as peers of the students in shows like Head of the Class. Teachers have been losing respect the last 50 years, don't kid yourself into thinking this is recent.
Growing up in NJ I can totally relate to Dangerfield. Now that I live in the "country" out of state, people are more like the the professor. They don't realize to get shit done you have to grease the palm
Yep! And hopefully, ya got plenty of "Grease" to use, otherwise, whoever you need to strike any kind of a deal with won't even look your way, let alone give ya the time of day! Money talks...and we both know what "walks", if ya get my drift!
Then there's the long term costs such as waste disposal. I don't know if you're familiar with who runs that business but I assure you it's not the boy scouts. HAHAHAHHA !! LMAFAOOOOOOOO !! Absolute best line in the movie delivered PERFECTLY by Dangerfield. I DIE every time I see this scene.
One of my buddies just posted a silly meme on success listing things like hard work etc., and I basically plagiarized this scene talking about bribes, inherited money, government kickbacks, etc. I even included the waste management part and he didn't get the joke. Called me a moron and a professional victim, lulz.
My best college instructors were usually part time because they actually worked in what they were teaching. Full time professors definitely live in a theoretical world.
I think he also forgot to add property taxes, insurance, and possibly pest control (I’ve worked in some warehouses and they used/needed exterminator services, typically roaches or mice from either the sewers, nearby dilapidated buildings, etc.).
That being, of course, because Mr. Mellon called him on his bull! If anybody thinks that starting a business, and being all straight-laced about it, is what's gonna get them very far, then they're in for a very rude awakening!
Winds of March Journey/Perry tribute band I remember a few years back, for one of our office moves, we had a dumpster service for our building, but were moving to an office complex that had dumpsters. When I called to cancel our old service, they tried to tell me that we were required by law to keep the service going, that we had to take the dumpster with us. I had to argue that there was no place to put it at the new place, and what would have happened if we just closed the business instead of moving. They replied in that case they would just cancel. I had to tell them to just act as if we were closing and cancel, and to pick up the dumpster. Our old building had been sold and was being redeveloped, so if they didn’t pick it up, they would lose the dumpster, and we weren’t paying for it. They canceled the account and picked up the dumpster.
Omg flashbacks of Macro and Micro in college. I love these theme of film and always remember quote (im paraphrasing ) from Ross Perot “If economists know so much about money, how come they all aren’t millionaires?” Ivory tower bullshit vs real world. I graduated w honors from University but still realized you have to be an educated academic consumer, and learned more useful and practical skills fours years in the USMC active duty. But I was the “scribe” and those served and did boot East coast or west will know what I’m referring to, and understand looking back college did have some value + ink and lead stick knowledge. Looking back I wouldn’t change anything glad did both.
I would have done Mellon's laundry if needed just to take HIS class on real world business in America. Tell the Prof. what he wants to hear for the grades and degree, but learn everything I could from Mellon so I could actually succeed and make money!
A lot of people will take away from this that the practical expert knows more than the theoretical expert. But, the simple fact is that this is just a case of an experienced student who's taking a class that's beneath his expertise. The professor likely knows quite a few things that Rodney's bringing up, but is sticking to fundamentals for the entry level students in his class. You don't start out on day one doing calculus.
Agreed. Although the instructor is rather strict, his stuff is 101 and Melon keeps forgetting that. The instructor also works with a lot of the basic but technical calculations that are necessary at the beginning level. Something Melon has to either learn or relearn.
@@mcdonoghrahloh459 Then there's the long term costs such as waste disposal. I don't know if you're familiar with who runs that business but I assure you it's not the boy scouts. HAHAHAHHA !! LMAFAOOOOOOOO !! Absolute best line in the movie delivered PERFECTLY by Dangerfield. I DIE every time I see this scene.
Mr. Mellon knew what he was talking about. In reality, when you go to college, you teach text-book situations and how to solve them. The real world, it is all very much different than the text🤔
Back when real comedy existed by real comedians not all pro Democrat political rants all the time packaged & falsely marketed as comedy. I miss the days of actual comedy. Miss Rodney too. A lot of legends in this movie.
This movie was from 1986. As hard as starting a business was back then, it's easily ten times harder now. Hell, you have to grease Special Interest palms with kickbacks just for the permits. The USA regulated itself into insolvency. Even with all that nobody wants to start a business just to have it taxed away, which means less tax collected. But DC doesn't care, because they decided the invisible tax (inflation) was the solution. Leveraging future production, when current production is dying. What a winning strategy. 🙄
As funny as this scene was/is, I was a business admin/management major in the mid to late 80s and I never saw this happening in the business/econ/computer science departments. When ever someone from “the real world” would come to speak, all of my professors were glued to and vey happy when these empirically based experts spoke and presented. The Q&As were the most telling in that the professors were all too eager to inundate the speaker with “what if?” questions. It was obvious these professors were concerned with a reality gap between theory taught in the classroom and the real world rigors of the private sector.
It is because that doesn't really happen. Those in academia teaching a subject do not generally claim to know more than actual experienced people out in the real world. It is usually the reverse, however, as evidenced by all the comments here. Tons of people posting about how teachers don't know anything and all kinds of nonsense about colleges and professors. I remember some time ago I took a break from the university and landed a job in a production shop and worked my way up running a department. One day one of the owners sent an email to each department head informing them that a professor from the university was going to bringing in her students to tour the facility. (I recognized the name and it was one of my professors I had took years earlier, which is why I remember all this.) And of course one of the blowhard supervisors replied to that email joking and insulting about the professor and college. I really doubt the professor was going to ask for a tour of a business just to tell her students that she knows more than the actual people doing the real work.
IDK in light of recent events this hits different. I don't know what the intent of this sketch originally was -- just straight out comedy, an opportunity to throw insults at pompous authority figures, or a cutdown of the detached, aloof "professors" with their "enlightened ideas" that have nothing to do with the real world. The latter is certainly how it hits me now, though as I said I don't know if that was the original intent.
See, asks at the end, “where to build our factory.” If location matters, then the product ABSOLUTELY does as well. Are the competing interests for specialized labor? What about raw materials? If I’m making grape juice, maybe I want to be close to the growers to save on transportation.
On a railroad spur line? Wasn’t the railroad industry going broke by then? Where I lived the tracks went nearly unused, and 18-wheeler trucks took over on the highways by that time.
I worked construction on a project in north jersey. Towards the end, the PM who had no idea about "jerseyology" said we need to line up a garbage company to pick up the individual cans from each unit. He told me "just call somebody and get a price"..... i told him, obviously you have no idea who runs that business but " i assure you it aint the boy scouts".....what we re going to do is go stand by the main street and watch what trucks go by and call one of them.....thats who have these routes....
Having government through business school, I laughed when he talked about a "widget", which is jargon or terminology specific to the that world. But the bugger picture of this scene is it juxtaposed the school version(theoretical) vs. How the real world works(actually experience)
The professor's ego was just bruised. That's all. Thornton should be teaching that class, and he doesn't even have a Degree. LOL. He's a self made multi millionaire and a successful businessman.
I get the point of this is for comedy, but I kinda feel bad for the professor. First year business students need to learn the bare basics before they get into all the advanced stuff Rodney was talking about. Imagine getting BTFO'd of your own class by some guy like that ahahaha.
True. But a professor in that situation could tell students that what while the real world will always force people to adapt/improvise/overcome to some degree, it is still most important to work at all times towards the ideal situation that is presented in class.
