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@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors 6 месяцев назад
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@LeopoldElwes
@LeopoldElwes 6 месяцев назад
The xboil is the best. It's lightweight, is a pot stand, Extremely durable, its not expensive for what you get and it runs on liquid fuels or esbit or gel or Cooking oil (Pretty much anything except for gas.) 👍 Did I mention it doesn't even have to prime? 🤔
@RedPillSurvival
@RedPillSurvival 6 месяцев назад
Those alcohol bricks would work perfectly with an old fashioned solid fuel folding army stove. That would solve your tipping problem for a cost of about $10 and weight of 4oz.
@hope2someday691
@hope2someday691 4 месяца назад
What about those Gorillas in the corners of the room??? (Altitude and Temperature) they should be addressed at least in the total point counts…
@tgeliot
@tgeliot 4 месяца назад
​@@hope2someday691He did mention cold weather performance some, but not altitude.
@hope2someday691
@hope2someday691 4 месяца назад
Temps below 32F (sea level) start to effect alcohol, by 20F they’re dead. The best canister stove will make it to about 11F. Adding altitude will also effect performance.
@jgense1
@jgense1 Год назад
a tip on solid fuel stoves - pop ino just about any home depot or lowes and check out their grill section. you will almost always be able to find the weber charcoal lighter cubes, which are the same solid fuel. you can get a 24 pack for about $6
@The85F0X
@The85F0X Год назад
You’re living in the future
@HimynameisJermHicks
@HimynameisJermHicks Год назад
That's so cool!
@howtogetoutofbabylon8978
@howtogetoutofbabylon8978 Год назад
Love Hacks Like yours!!! I specialize in them. after about twenty years... A consortium or website where everybody shares their cheap hacks
@howtogetoutofbabylon8978
@howtogetoutofbabylon8978 Год назад
Are they absorb people stomach just compressed like a military tablet, hexane or trioxane? IE they are not a liquid absorbent stone?
@Sim-ig9zm
@Sim-ig9zm Год назад
The ones in individual packets? UK here so just checking I'm looking at the right ones....and thanks for the tip either way 👍
@jimmartins3073
@jimmartins3073 2 месяца назад
I am an ex Overland Expeditions Leader for trans Africa wild camping journeys and others in different countries, you mentioned that with an open flame, you get a black sooty cover on the outside of your pots while cooking. I have done this for years and the trick is to smear washing up liquid (or similar washing soap you will carry anyway) quickly over all of the outside of the pots before putting them over the flame. You can use this for ages and still easily wipe off the blackness when cool with a bit of water instead of scrubbing them clean. It is very easy to do and I am always surprised that it is not widely known about on outdoor videos. Try it and see what I mean.
@merindahthornton5080
@merindahthornton5080 Месяц назад
Girl Guides have been doing this for ever- we call it “soft soap”. Before liquid soap was widely available, we used to grate bars of soap and put them in a container with some water. It works a treat.
@Peyote1312
@Peyote1312 Месяц назад
I'll just stick with the gas stove. I like being able to just push a button and get cooking. Especially when u wake up sore & it's freezing. The sooner u can get hot coffee & food in your stomach the better. But if you insist on being some kind of elitist outdoors hipster who only uses solid fuel, more power to you.
@lisaphares2286
@lisaphares2286 29 дней назад
@@Peyote1312this is not just handy and good to know for backpacking, but for cooking at a campsite or grilling at home with wood chips or even in your fireplace when there is a power outage. But you’re young and ignorant as evidenced by your snippy attitude and hopefully will out grow this or at least learn to keep your revealing opinions to yourself.
@3niknicholson
@3niknicholson 23 дня назад
@@Peyote1312 I got good at making a quick morale-booster warm-up fire first thing, and dance in the flames, warm up my baseball cap and slap it on my head, then I boil my water for my tea once I've warmed up. But I don't camp above the tree line.
@UltralightMotorcycleCamping
@UltralightMotorcycleCamping 15 дней назад
We did the soap (liquid or bar) on pots to release the soot when I was a Boy Scout - 1970 to 1975. I still know how to start a fire and carry a lightweight kit with three ways to quickly start a fire, but it's much easier and cleaner to carry a stove that doesn't soot the pans. I stopped building fires when camping when I got my first stove. If I still cooked over fire, I'd rinse off the loose soot and just let the pots turn black.
@mortisCZ
@mortisCZ Месяц назад
I use a small folding burner that my grandpa got in the army 60+ years ago. It uses hexamine tablets that are very common here. With it being so sturdy, my nephew might inherit it in the future. 😀
@trekkingforeurope
@trekkingforeurope 7 месяцев назад
Based entirely on this review, I bought the pizza-stone stove, and have been absolutely loving it. There's a version with larger stones, in a small paint can, that holds enough fuel for a week on the trail and weighs next to nothing. I'm really happy with it, and the guy on Etsy who sells them is excellent about responding to questions and giving advice. Thanks so much for the tip!
@anniebrunelle4433
@anniebrunelle4433 4 месяца назад
Can you please tell me the name of the guy on Etsy? I can't seem to locate this product at all on it. Thanks!
@erickacevedo7346
@erickacevedo7346 3 месяца назад
Link?
@trekkingforeurope
@trekkingforeurope 2 месяца назад
@@erickacevedo7346 There's a link to the pill-bottle stove in this video's description. Click that, then the seller's name, and you'll find it among his other products. I've now been using it four months, and it's been great.
@TestUser-cf4wj
@TestUser-cf4wj 2 месяца назад
Or use a masonry hole saw and cut your own pizza stone disks. If Etsy guy can DIY them, you can too. Quit being a consumer and make something!
@drchilapastrosodrlasmacas438
@drchilapastrosodrlasmacas438 Месяц назад
Can't I use sandstone rocks?
@Xpnential999999
@Xpnential999999 Год назад
In the Army, I carried an Esbit stove everywhere; it was always good for a hot beverage or to heat up a soup or (pre heat tab) MRE. Then I figured out that I could accomplish the same thing without the stove, just using a rock to contain the flames from the heat tab, and a couple of slightly thicker rocks or sticks to support my canteen cup. I’ve used this technique for backpacking ever since, supplemented by actual campfire cooking occasionally, but I’m intrigued by the pill bottle stove.
@peetsnort
@peetsnort Год назад
I used the esbit in the army and the best way to burn it is to scrape a thin 2inch groove in the sand. 4 inch deep. The sides hold the canteen.
@MrShwaggins
@MrShwaggins Год назад
I wonder how porous soapstone is and if its able to soak up alcohol or fuel. It's supposed to be the one stone that can hold onto heat the longest.
@bravofighter
@bravofighter Год назад
Yeah, I like Esbit fuel tabs too, my thoughts on them are that they’re a little expensive and produce trash that I then have to carry out of the woods, they smell when burning, and but they do work in ANY condition. I really like that, as where I live it’s either bone chilling cold or soaking wet. Sunny crisp days are very rare. 😂
@MafistoOU812
@MafistoOU812 Год назад
Don't you mean you got a rock or something to contain the flames?
@peetsnort
@peetsnort Год назад
@@MafistoOU812 depends on the terrain. I was in the caprivi strip in Namibia and there are no stones. Just sand.
@user-jk2zm7uq5s
@user-jk2zm7uq5s Год назад
Methinks one important difference between these stoves is whether you can actually cook on them (simmering ability, heat output) or really realistically only boil water (esbit/alcohol stoves), the latter being completely fine for coffee or freeze dried food.
@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад
Very true. I don’t do a lot of simmering but I did include it in my assessment.
@stevenhorwood1300
@stevenhorwood1300 Год назад
I love the speed of my brs 3000 but hate hate the jet engine noise. Toaks alcohol burner fits in my BushBuddy mini as a pot stand and wind screen. Twoferone. 4 ounces for the bush buddy twig stove, one ounce for the toaks. Carry the amount of alcohol one needs for the # days on trip but use the BushBuddy when I have time to sit and relax. No fuel shortage issues either. That MSR stuff sure is nice however. Great videos.
@arthurlivesley
@arthurlivesley Год назад
I used an alcohol stove (trangia mini) for a long trip across Europe, for which I cooked from scratch most nights. Absolutely no problems once you're used to it, and fuel availability was excellent
@arthurlivesley
@arthurlivesley Год назад
@@RobertSmith-up9rz I mostly wasn't in forests, and this was mostly over the less flammable seasons
@arthurlivesley
@arthurlivesley Год назад
@@RobertSmith-up9rz oh yeah, and I had it on a flameproof mat
@simsfoto
@simsfoto Год назад
It is worth mentioning that during fire restrictions in the U.S. National Forests, parks, and grasslands, you have to be able to use a switch or valve to turn off the fire or it could mean a hefty fine. Always scrape away the duff and other flammable material so that you are turning above mineral soil.
@Trave1s_with_Chris
@Trave1s_with_Chris Год назад
Was literally scrolling through the comments looking for this exact reply. Most of these would not fly during a burn ban. Now granted if you live and camp up north, you might not have that issue as often. But in Texas and many other south or west states, they are common and unfortunately chronic problems. *edit* just finished the video and saw he said this. Lol
@AustinWigley
@AustinWigley Год назад
The last minute of the video is all about this. It's like y'all didn't even watch it.
@TrilobitesRTasty
@TrilobitesRTasty 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for this comment! Since a lot of us already have an investment in a stove and accessories, viewers may not watch the video to the end.
@dekulruno
@dekulruno 11 месяцев назад
Funny a white gas stove with a valve would be considered more safe with potential for spills/leaks leading to uncontrolled fire much easier than one of these disks getting out of control. But hey it technically has a valve on the stove!
@connor107
@connor107 11 месяцев назад
Was going to comment about that as well, I think that "fire safety" should have been one of the ranking catergories
@THandP_org
@THandP_org Год назад
Prepare for soot in advance, by coating the outside of pots, pans, and coffee pots with liquid soap. Best camp trick I learned from 4H as a small sprout learning woods survival... right after changing underwear and socks before getting in my bag at night 😁
@grantsdad98
@grantsdad98 Год назад
I'm still using the Whisperlite stove I bought in 1987. Still reliable and easy to use as it was when I bought it 36 years ago.
@youtubeaccount9058
@youtubeaccount9058 Год назад
But that's not the whole story, is it? You must have replaced the plunger in the pump and o-rings lots of times by now. And I bet it has clogged now and again? I took one camping to a windy place with blowing gypsum sand and could never get permanently unplugged after that. Your post inspires me to dust it off and try some more. Well, except the Windburner is so easy and trouble-free....
@jeffrauh2803
@jeffrauh2803 Год назад
I as well still use my MSR Whisperlite stove bought in the early 1980s. I've replaced a o-ring or two but not many. It has been throughout the US and Canada with me and never failed. In fact, I bought my daughter the interational version a couple of years ago and she now loves them as well. If you get one it will be the last stove you'll ever need.
@shadeiland
@shadeiland Год назад
The dragon fly was my replacement for my whisperlite. Sounds like I’m taking off in a jet but allows me a wide range of cooking options.
@easygroove
@easygroove Год назад
YES, whisperlite international FTW... only bad in it is the unflexible hose
@nuge74
@nuge74 Год назад
I’ve had my Whisperlite International stove for around 25 years and it still goes with me on every camping trip. It’s been a simple rock solid piece of kit for me, love it.
@jerud6861
@jerud6861 Год назад
That pill bottle stove has me super intrigued. Would love to see a follow up video comparing this to other alcohol stoves.
@Uterr
@Uterr Год назад
in a video we see only a quarter of a cup has been boiled, I believe it was not very good in efficiency after all
@andytopley314
@andytopley314 Год назад
Maybe with a fold up windshield/stand to counter the stability issue
@janefreeman995
@janefreeman995 Год назад
@Andy Topley I was thinking the fancy feast stove may also work... the main difference between the stones and other alcohol stoves is that the stones can be quickly blown out. Still not allowed on pct and other places I would imagine.
@peetsnort
@peetsnort Год назад
I would simply fill a screw top tin the similar size with vermiculite. Lighter and bio degradable and the lid can snuff out the flame.
@trakyboy5128
@trakyboy5128 Год назад
I can't find the pill stove anywhere 😡
@tfrtrouble
@tfrtrouble Год назад
One disadvantage of solid fuel stoves that is seldom discussed is that they often burn "dirty" and leave greasy soot all over your pot. It seems like a minor issue but it can become a real pain. Unless you are really really careful when using and packing, the soot will go EVERYWHERE.
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
Soot is bad... zero soot with Pillbottle stove Tablets charged up with ethyl alcohol.
@immortalsofar5314
@immortalsofar5314 7 месяцев назад
Agreed but you can make cleaning up afterwards easier by coating with soap and then using a scourer.
@adamb89
@adamb89 6 месяцев назад
@@neotrekkUnfortunately those things don't look like they hold a whole lot of alcohol, and wouldn't burn for terribly long. Good for heating up a cup of water, but not for cooking a meal, since you'd have to constantly stop and wait for them to soak up more alcohol, during which time your food's getting colder. A regular alcohol stove if it runs out you fill just it back up immediately light the fire again with practically no downtime. Plus they're super easy to make, there's a billion videos on how to make them out of cut up soda cans and such. And if you store your alcohol in a squeeze bottle like for ketchup or something, you can use that nozzle to easily fill the stove and unscrew the whole cap to dump unburnt fuel back in for later.
@jeffconley6366
@jeffconley6366 6 месяцев назад
That's why I use the Trangia. No mess with the alcohol.
@yngwievanwinger1432
@yngwievanwinger1432 6 месяцев назад
Try carrying aluminum foil with you. Wrap the pot with foil before cooking. Then the foil gets dirty but not your pot. You can also wrap the inner part of your pot, too. Cuts down on clean up time immensely.
@devindoolin8240
@devindoolin8240 6 месяцев назад
Your delivery is very good. Quick but not too fast, hitting all the main points, no fillers or other useless things. Thank you for making this.
@FarginIceholeful
@FarginIceholeful 3 месяца назад
No two minute intro either. Have you noticed every single video review they sniffle? Like everyone has a runny nose.
@DavidStrchld
@DavidStrchld Год назад
A tip about Esbit, normally as you burn it, it produces less heat as it gets smaller, but normally you need more heat towards the end to get it to boil. Depending on the amount of water and the wind this sometimes produced a fail to boil at the end of the tablet, needing a second tablet if you want it boiled. So I start with the leftover tablet of the last burn (Esbit is easy to blow out), to start heating the water and finish it off with the new tablet to bring it to a boil. The downside is that the Esbit seems to be a bit more odorous when stored after a partial burn, though after a multi-day long distance hike there are other odors to cover that.
@falconmoose5435
@falconmoose5435 Год назад
They are toxic.
@rld1278
@rld1278 Год назад
I use the coghlan esbit knockoff. I found a mini m&m container is the perfect size to hold the tablets and very little odor. The esbit tabs may be a bit bigger and may not fit, I'm not sure.
@Ebbagull
@Ebbagull Год назад
I think this used to be the standard in my country when I was a kid, but I haven't seen any in years, so I think they're illegal here now because of their toxicity...
@Brad-99
@Brad-99 Год назад
​@@rld1278 I use knockoff too and I use one table and also will use twigs aswell great for my tiny kettle 😁
@RustyKnorr
@RustyKnorr Год назад
Just use two tabs, blow whatever is left over out. then that with one next time. keep rotating, but don't waste time with only one, ever.
@KAEFARIK
@KAEFARIK Год назад
I use a "SoloStove"... and after using it I am sure that other handmade/cottage designs would work well. Been using mine for over 10 years now, I spent a winter cooking on it in the Oregon forest aka snow and below freezing for weeks ... I also walked with it for about 1000mi, rough estimate. It's the best by far and if you plan ahead and learn to keep the right wood/materials on hand - you never have to worry at all about it. Pine - Redwood - Cedar - Pitch matches - storm matches - jute twine - pine needles - oak sticks - cardboard... just wrap it in a plastic bag and keep it dry, keep a bic on you (you do anyway already)... you'll never carry a fuel can again. ...clear the ground at least even if you are using a gas stove, I got triggered seeing the start of this video.
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera Год назад
The pizza-stone stove could be improved in terms of performance and safety by punching some air holes in an empty food can and putting the pizza stones in the can, so the can could act as a windscreen and a stand for your mug.
@jeremycastleberry
@jeremycastleberry Год назад
I was thinking the exact same thing.
@LeifWarner
@LeifWarner Год назад
At that point is it any different that a Starlyte or Kojin stove, just with stone instead of fluffy fiberglass as the wick material?
@fishingtheforecast
@fishingtheforecast Год назад
I will say that it was nice that it didn't spill like a alcohol stove would and spread fire
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera Год назад
@@LeifWarner : Well, stone won't melt at combustion temperatures like fiberglass can.
@LeifWarner
@LeifWarner Год назад
@@deusexaethera Fiberglass doesn't melt. They use it as insulation in houses for a reason. Plenty of stoves are stuffed with fiberglass - including my everyday ones. It can soften past 1200 °C, though that's not an issue for wicking material, and your stove's not going to get anywhere near that hot.
@diegoalvarado1771
@diegoalvarado1771 11 месяцев назад
I love my MSR whisperlite from the 80s. Use gasoline while bikepacking and can find smaller MSR fuel bottles to cut back on pack volume and weight. I tuck it into my frame bag on my bike and can fit the fuel bottle in a standard bike water bottle cage. Considering they can be found for a bargain used, and can be serviced indefinitely, I think they are actually a fantastic performer all around and outperform many of the other stoves in several metrics. Just my 2 cents of course. My pocket rocket deluxe felt cheap and the mesh airizer that breaks up the fuel into a finer mist keeps popping out of place. Can’t beat the MSR whisperlite in terms of build quality. that things been kicking around for 40 years for a reason.
@radar471
@radar471 2 дня назад
I have been using one for about 10 years camping off of a motorcycle, that little bottle of fuel has gotten me back to civilization a couple of times! I've also had the reverse, drained a little gas out of the bike to cook dinner. I'll admit they can be slightly dangerous but it's so reliable and the convenience of refueling at the gas station makes it the best choice for me!
@grantlong5540
@grantlong5540 Год назад
Things have changed so much since I started bushwalking in the 80’s. The MSR international was king even though they could be temperamental things to get going. They were the days when we’d brag about how heavy our pack was, not how light 😂
@_Solaris
@_Solaris Год назад
I remember that. Now it's a badge of honor to do a 4-day with 15 lbs 😄 ...and a *lot* more fun.
@grantlong5540
@grantlong5540 Год назад
@@_Solaris I agree. I can’t imagine how I started the Overland Track with just over 30kg (66 pounds) on my back. Must have been young.
@_Solaris
@_Solaris Год назад
@Grant Long I know man. I'm 57 and climbing passes & shoulders is more fun without the heavy grind.
@patrickradcliffe3837
@patrickradcliffe3837 Год назад
I still rock my international multifuel for about 20 years now.
@sixfigureskibum
@sixfigureskibum Год назад
This review is subject to the reviewers perspective. Solid fuel stoves are a serious joke. Canisters? Land fill. The whisper lite kept me alive in negative 40 winter mountaineering. None of these others can come close
@RealAmericanSanta
@RealAmericanSanta Год назад
I love this kind of stuff. I spent 3 years homeless and the first year was in Wisconsin it started in the winter. The best for heat and cooking was a rocket stove, cost less than 50 bucks. It takes some work, but it heated up a tin can travel trailer or a tent or a box. They sometimes require a wind screen, but a cinder block worked perfect.
@castform57
@castform57 Год назад
While in the FDF/military, we used trangia stoves, and oh man I love them so much. Pots and pans with the alcohol burner and so much more, all fitting into a nice compact package.
@manny_here
@manny_here Месяц назад
"Before you click off because you think you know the answer..." turns out the answer was the one we expected with a slight twist. Mindblowing stuff.
@muttoj77
@muttoj77 Год назад
I got a foldable titanium woodstove. Very lightweight and very small when folded. I know it’s performance is not in the same league as modern stoves but I really like it. Gathering fuel during the hike. The pure joy of achievement when creating fire with sticks and scrapesteel. The smell of campfire when you open the small bottle of whisky you saved for this occasion. 😄
@Carniak
@Carniak Год назад
When those embers burn down to coal, you will never have a better stove for grilling up a steak or some beef short rib.
@Ryan_hey
@Ryan_hey Год назад
I agree. There's a reason why humans like to gather around a wood fire-not simply because they get the job done, but because it's warm, mesmerizing, enjoyable, etc. Mini wood stoves replicate that experience but on a smaller scale.
@Carniak
@Carniak Год назад
@@MurdersMachine Mmmm... some nice Maker's with that hot chocolate.
@RustyKnorr
@RustyKnorr Год назад
Same here. Firebox Nano for me, I love that thing!
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
Wood fires are wonderful... the smell, the flicker, their needing your attention and care. But cooking a meal fast and easy comes first... gotta eat before you can really enjoy the wood fire. Add a PillBottle stove to your pack.
@definitelynotaheretic.7295
@definitelynotaheretic.7295 Год назад
I picked up a Trangia last September, aaaaand it’s amazing. It’s maybe not “THE BEST” according to “the experts,” but the shelf life of the fuel, the overall package (two pots and one pan with a grabber handle) and ability to do “proper cooking” as I heard one English backpacker say, makes it a top notch product in my book. I have an entire kitchen in a fairly small package that’s dead nuts reliable for backpacking and emergency scenarios.
@mikemoik
@mikemoik Год назад
it IS the best!
@SimplyLesa
@SimplyLesa Год назад
My only concern is that there pots are aluminum
@notquiteultralight1701
@notquiteultralight1701 Год назад
@@SimplyLesa hi. They’ve all but disproven that theory about aluminum causing health issues. I think that’s why you can pick up titanium cookware for a song now. The only cook surface i DO stay away from is anything nonstick. That’s here at home and out there. Hope this helps.
@Tiger-789
@Tiger-789 Год назад
@@SimplyLesa they have hard anodized aluminum and duossal (aluminum outside, stainless inside) nowadays. I don't like plain aluminum either :)
@definitelynotaheretic.7295
@definitelynotaheretic.7295 Год назад
Mine is the hard anodized aluminum. The problem with aluminum is it leaching in highly acidic environments, but that problem is negated when it’s hard anodized, and that hard anodized layer is SUPER tough stuff. If you have an aluminum coffee percolator you use every day, yeah, it’ll kill you. If you just use it to boil water and cook non-acidic food while camping you’ll be totally fine. But again, I went the HA route because why the hell not.
@BobBlarneystone
@BobBlarneystone Год назад
Gosh, I'm still using my brass Svea 123 white gas stove with an aluminum Sigg Tourist Cookset that I bought in 1974. It's basically a blowtorch but it gets the job done.I'm not concerned too much with speed, except when I'm really hungry and that makes everything taste fantastic.
@inscrutianaII
@inscrutianaII Месяц назад
Still using the foldable cube sterno box I hauled around in scouting, but only as a surface and windbreak. Definitely not a "cooking with gas" sorta fella. haha
@matthieubatard4641
@matthieubatard4641 Месяц назад
"People have been cooking using fire for years", kind of an understatement 😂
@elliotw5918
@elliotw5918 Год назад
Surface area. When the pill bottle stove ripped over it exposed the other sides to an already hot alcohol which likely caused the rest of the remaining alcohol to gasify and burn off really quickly. Great video btw. I've used alcohol stoves for years and my entire setup weights in at just over two ounces. Once again, great work here.
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
With 2 Stacked Tablets and the pot on top, only the perimeter is emitting alcohol. Knocked down you add the flat area, so bigger flames.
@RangerPhantomSAS
@RangerPhantomSAS Год назад
That's a cool new twist on a stove. My idea would be to have one that's about the size of a hockey puck or just smaller maybe the size and thickness of a can of chewing tobacco (not something I partake of). Then you could have a small metal or titanium pop up like an esbit or British Army BCB that doubles as a pot stand and wind screen with shelf for the stone to lay on, keeping it off the ground and also doubling as a solid fuel stove as well.
@bazduggan4042
@bazduggan4042 Год назад
I didn't intend to watch all of this video but your no nonsense and quick talking kept me hooked. Well done. 👍
@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад
I’m glad you did. Thanks
@francescorestivo6545
@francescorestivo6545 Год назад
I use a small aluminum jar with a screw-on lid (like those for creams and makeup) with rock wool soaked in alcohol inside. The rock wool is fireproof and holds the alcohol avoiding risks in case of accidental spills. While ethyl alcohol can be found just about anywhere so it doesn't give compatibility problems like some gas canisters cheap, compact , lightweight, does not give compatibility problems and above all is safe
@charleshayes2528
@charleshayes2528 4 месяца назад
@francescorestivo6545 Hi, I hadn't heard of "Rock Wool" before, just looked it up online and one site says that it is dangerous due to the risk of inhaling microparticles, just like asbestos! Any comments? I am merely ignorant and not trying to argue.
@thewhexperience3901
@thewhexperience3901 Год назад
It’s been great following along with your channel and seeing your subscriber numbers jump up so quickly. You’re concise, to the point, and you make even topics like backpacking stoves genuinely interesting. I’m happy to see you get some recognition for the hard work and looking forward to seeing where this channel goes in 2023!
@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад
I couldn’t have done it without viewers like you. Thank you for the support
@milesrost6674
@milesrost6674 Год назад
I was going to leave a similar comment, thanks for doing the work for me. Godspeed
@lindaertel7558
@lindaertel7558 Год назад
Thank you for showing us these stoves and telling about the differences.
@milesrost6674
@milesrost6674 Год назад
@@thomgizziz Says the troll account..... When arguing a point I'd recommend no name calling or overtly foul language. It's like inserting your foot into your mouth loosing all credibility before your point. Hope you learn "THOM" ;)
@roybenedicto8642
@roybenedicto8642 Год назад
I still love the roar of my first stove, my MSR Dragonfly, which I bought after college after I saved up from my 1st job. Still running strong after 20+ years, so many great memories from it 😍
@w8stral
@w8stral 9 месяцев назад
I thought mine would last forever too. Had it over 20 years. The o-rings go bad and last time I used it the o-rings blew out and giant flames everywhere which melted my pump end ruining my stove. Thankfully I was at home testing and used a garden hose to put everything out, but if this was in the woods, then I would have just started a MASSIVE forest fire!!! GET those O-rings REPLACED if 20 years old. PRONTO. Please? You do not want a forest fire on your conscience.
@dontreat6095
@dontreat6095 3 месяца назад
Same. When he said he preferred a canister that burns twigs over the WhisperLite, I stopped listening.
@ellentau427
@ellentau427 5 месяцев назад
Thank you, although I'm 71 years old and never went camping I couldn't help enjoy your video! For emergency situations where you have lost electricity your camping reviews helped me decide on what I could use and have in a prep bag. Again thank you.
@jonathananonymouse7685
@jonathananonymouse7685 Год назад
I got the pucks because of your video and have found them to be fantastic little troopers. My thanks to you, sir!
@aodh5966
@aodh5966 Год назад
Woodgas stoves are my favourite. Burn from the top down. Virtually smokeless and very cheap fuel. Not lightweight, and it soots up your pots and pans. It can also use twigs as fuel so you'll never run out of fuel in the wild. Well worth a try
@MattinLapland
@MattinLapland Год назад
I’ve stuck with my Coleman F1 gas stove for years. It’s so tiny yet so powerful. I remember a Coleman rep who was in an outdoor store years ago and he said to me ‘This is something that will impress you’ , it did and I’ve used one ever since. I can fit it into the palm of my hand and close up my hand around it.
@Et111thompson
@Et111thompson 7 месяцев назад
If you work in construction or the trades and want hot meals and easy coffee on the job, the jet boil is the undisputed king. Grab heat proof bag, throw a bunch of Ramen stuff in there, I'm partial to spring noodle packets, dehydrated mushrooms and green onions, and tuna, and just throw in boiling water 20 minutes before you want to eat. The weight doesn't matter in its in your truck or lunchbox, and it's so nice to have hot meals, especially in winter.
@TallTexasGMan
@TallTexasGMan Год назад
I have had a Primus Omni Fuel stove for so many years. Got it back in the days of volunteering for a Search and Rescue team in Washington State. That little stove will burn any flammable fuel from liquid paraffin to alcohol. I have used Olive Oil in it even. Pricy and mine probably could not be repaired today if it broke, but I have boiled pots with a couple gallons of water in them.
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
Those car camping stoves are powerful! I did a test where I set out 16 stacks of two PillBottle Stove Tablets with a 5 gallon pot on top to cook crawfish.
@jeffstone7912
@jeffstone7912 Год назад
I have a $12 Chinese canister stove that is a rip off over the MSR pocket rocket. It works almost as good as the MSR. It is a little bit more sensitive to wind. These are great stoves as gifts for Boy Scouts. I sent a couple with fuel to nephew serving in Afghanistan. He said it worked great.
@timothywilkins1831
@timothywilkins1831 Год назад
Of all the stoves I've had, the two that had the best "endurance" was a solid fuel wood stove and a Trangia alcohol stove (the latter seemed to operate really well even in high winds!) The reason I appreciate alcohol stoves is that methylated spirit is easily bought from any hardware or supermarket (don't need to find a camping store like the gas stoves), and the solid fuel wood stove worked anywhere there were trees. Rocket stoves work well but are heavy :(
@True-crime-junkie
@True-crime-junkie Год назад
These are the two I use. Simple, easy and cheap. And reliable
@lubricustheslippery5028
@lubricustheslippery5028 10 месяцев назад
Alcohol stoves don't work that well when it's cool. It's hard to set the alcohol on fire and it takes forever to smelt snow. Gas is not gas but liquid form so that don't work. The "white gas" stove I have tested had smal plastic parts that got brittle and broke the first time i tried it. So i don't know of any stove that works.
@maxderindianer6593
@maxderindianer6593 9 месяцев назад
on cold condition put the alcohol container in your pocket or your sleeping bag. i use my trangia in the last 40 years in every weather condition including ice, storm rain heat etc
@InnocentiusLacrimosa
@InnocentiusLacrimosa 7 месяцев назад
Yeah.... I carry that Toaks twig stove that was tested here. It doubles as a windshield for a small Trangia burner that I also carry. Honestly I use it most of the time with the Trangia burner, but sometimes it is nice to have a real fire also.
@meverick666
@meverick666 6 месяцев назад
Trangia stoves are the swiss army knive of outdoor cooking. Simple, effective and every little part of it is well thought out, they even can be safely transported with fuel inside. One is enough for up to two people and in case the group gets bigger just add more of them under the pot, perfect scalability and easy to split the weight.
@PaulKentSkates
@PaulKentSkates Год назад
I ditched canisters 15 years back. The adventures in stoving blog is an amazing resource.
@austinjudway458
@austinjudway458 Год назад
Excellent breakdown! I use the beer can (skinny cans work best) alcohol stove and love it. Only issue I ran into was getting the flame to go out when finished. Had an incident where I thought the flame was extinguished but wasn't due to the flames sometimes being hard to see. Long story short grabbed the can, burned myself, and dropped the still burning fuel on my sit pad which caught fire and melted. So...I now use the bottom half of a full sized can as a means of smothering the flame. Works great and only added a few grams to the total weight of my cook set. Additionally I made my windscreen out of a foil roasting pan, tons of how-to's on how to do that on the interwebs.
@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад
Yeah those flames are hard to see. Sometimes I’m like did I actually light it? And wave my hand over to make sure there are no flames…but I can see it being easy to have an accident
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
The Tablets blow out just like birthday cake candles.
@YavorBrick3D
@YavorBrick3D Год назад
That pill solution could probably work with other liquid fuels too, which could make it a great option. Also for the knocking down, you can probably easily make an easy tripod stand for pots ontop of it
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera Год назад
I know from personal experience that porous stones also make good non-consumable wicks for burning gasoline in a controlled(ish) manner.
@Kiwdafish1
@Kiwdafish1 Год назад
Porous stone lighters for home wood stoves have been in use for 60+ years.
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
Any liqued fuel will burn, but gasoline, E85, kersene, etc make soot. Ethyl alcohol 99.5% from Amazon is best overall. And no stand is best... the stack of two tablets delivers the optimum oxygen ration to the alcohol fumes and makes the hottest fire with the optimum size flame the just kisses the entire bottom of a 16oz cup, with no fire going up the sidies and going to waste.
@larrymorris7328
@larrymorris7328 Год назад
I think that the pill bottle stove disk should work in a folding sterno stove. It would give you a place to set them with a wind screen and a stable cooking surface.
@suep-b6144
@suep-b6144 11 месяцев назад
has anyone tried that, I thought the same thing
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
The BTU output is maximum with two Tablets stacked and the pot sitting on top... no stand.
@jeffconley6366
@jeffconley6366 6 месяцев назад
I haven't tried it. But, good idea to try. If you make some modifications to the Sterno stove works with a Trangia as well.
@shidandfard9976
@shidandfard9976 Год назад
pillbottle stove sounds great, packs up tiny and weighs little, just need to dig a base for it so it doesn't fall over. could also use it as a reusable starter for larger fires
@nathancapek673
@nathancapek673 Год назад
I like that idea. Especially if your fire needs a little extra help in wet conditions. It's easier to store and reuse than single use fire starters. You could also set the stones side by side on a longer base instead of stacking them
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
If you set the tablets on a flat hard surface, a 16oz pot on top will not tip over unless you whack it. The Walmart 16oz SS cup ($6.45) has a depression in the middle the exact size of the Tablets, so that combo is very stable. If you set the Tablets on soft leaves and grass, it can tip over.... like any camp stove.
@gerryk9275
@gerryk9275 Год назад
I started with a butane stove in '74 that didn't really put out enough heat and then switched to a Svea 123 (white fuel). While I loved the aesthetic of that stove, after many years I tired of the preheat ritual and the blowtorch effect on my cookware. Switched to an MSR WindPro stove around '06 which, because the burner is separate from the canister, has a low center of gravity and also wide pot support. Very stable. I also like that the canister is away from the burner unit. The subtle flame control and a wider burner ring means you can actually cook something more complicated than boiling water.
@christopherberry8519
@christopherberry8519 Год назад
I'm intrigued by the pillbox stove idea - I think the fact that it discharges when knocked over is a plus for safety. I could think of several ways to increase it's output and convenience such as raising it off the ground/reflector a little and increasing it's surface area by spacing the cylinders off each other. also, 3 pairs could be used to balance the cup better.
@0xFluke
@0xFluke Год назад
Definitely! In Australia we have a lot of fire free months and high fire danger throughout so having something that immediately cuts off is amazing
@martjebicker9168
@martjebicker9168 Год назад
I would use the pillbox in a tomato can with a port in bottom cut out. Solves the wind issue and wide base for the cup.
@RustyKnorr
@RustyKnorr Год назад
Combined with a ti Firebox Nano. Safer, raised above the cylinder for hotter burn, pot is supported, windscreen is integrated. And you can burn sticks if you run out of fuel.
@x808drifter
@x808drifter Год назад
Except it doesn't. He just had an anomaly. Normally it stays lit cause all it is is porous rock.
@aaronbennack714
@aaronbennack714 Год назад
@@martjebicker9168 beat me to it
@hevc6649
@hevc6649 Год назад
The fact that the stone fire went out when it tipped has to be a plus
@lindasue8719
@lindasue8719 День назад
It's the beauty of cooking with alcohol
@JHorvathCinema
@JHorvathCinema Год назад
I had the best wood burning stove when I was younger but I couldn’t remember the name. Turned out it’s a sierra stove, cook and boil water pretty well on pine cones and twigs. Not ultralight, but they make a titanium version now and the fact that there is basically unlimited fuel is a major plus in my book
@DadBodDrumming
@DadBodDrumming Год назад
Im intrigued by the stone stove. I hope you do a more indepth video of it. One stove that doesn't get enough attention is Sterno Stove. Probably because you can't get the anymore. It looked like a jetboil but sat on top of a sterno can of fuel. The boil time was about 4 -5 mins. But you could fit 2 sterno cans inside of it along with the lighter. And when the water boils, you just lift it off the sterno can and put the lid back on the sterno snuffing out the flame. Nothing to spill and the fire was contained. I may have to start using it again. I stopped in 2019 when I hiked the AT and wasn't sure how available sterno would be on the trail.
@rangerdoc1029
@rangerdoc1029 Год назад
In winter, you can use the adapters to put propane in your cannisters, eliminating the cold weather issue with butane.
@davidbarts6144
@davidbarts6144 Год назад
Not safe! Butane canisters are not designed to withstand the higher pressures of propane.
@jonfitz4724
@jonfitz4724 Год назад
I just love that there are so many options. A Caldera Cone is a great addition to an alcohol stove (and could be used with some of these other options).
@minorityofthought1306
@minorityofthought1306 Год назад
Gasifying wood stove made from tin cans has always worked best for me. It would still score low on your scale, but it's my go-to where I live.
@deusexaethera
@deusexaethera Год назад
How do I make one?
@minorityofthought1306
@minorityofthought1306 Год назад
@@deusexaethera Just search RU-vid. there are plenty of video's that show how to make one. It doesn't take long, or very many things or tools to make.
@davidmay8390
@davidmay8390 Год назад
I've been using a MSR Dragonfly since the nineties, and have really liked its performance in cold weather using white gas. It's a bit heavy at 14 oz but is really useful for cooking as it will support larger pots. I have serviced it once by replacing o rings, and have found it very reliable. There was a learning curve about how much fuel to use to prime the stove, but once you master that, it's very simple to use.
@NOSEBLOB
@NOSEBLOB Год назад
way too loud
@DirtyPoul
@DirtyPoul Год назад
@@NOSEBLOB While that is annoying for sure, its cleaner burn makes it healthier to use inside tents on very cold winter days when compared to the Whisperlite.
@joepaine8911
@joepaine8911 Год назад
@@NOSEBLOB I love the sound
@anandarochisha
@anandarochisha Год назад
I agree..I use it at the cabin to make a quick coffee or soup right on the table..try that with a stick stove. It burns many different fuels..fast...and you don't have to recycle the tank. My fave..and loud..yes..but they have an insert to make it quiet out there too.
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
Our Boy Scout troop was not allowed to carry white gas... it can explode, where alcohol vapors cannot explode.
@thomasmcmahan2014
@thomasmcmahan2014 Год назад
I have a tried and true MSR stove, but that pill bottle idea intrigues me. I love how light weight it is and I actually like that it goes out if knocked over, almost a safety feature by accident. I think I might give that a shot my next backpacking trip.
@AdamxSoldo
@AdamxSoldo Год назад
The Whisperlite is the only stove I would want to take in deep winter. None of the other stoves can melt snow as effectively as that one
@leecollard3001
@leecollard3001 9 месяцев назад
Oh, but I must disagree...MSR XGK2 is the champ for flat out snow melting... NO Simmering though
@dannynye1731
@dannynye1731 9 месяцев назад
I had the whisperlite but my svea 123r has it beat- 2 moving part, self cleaning, built in tool, pot hand’e and pot
@AdamxSoldo
@AdamxSoldo 9 месяцев назад
I'll have to check out that stove - sounds interesting! @@dannynye1731
@Frindleeguy
@Frindleeguy 5 месяцев назад
The whisperlite is now self cleaning with the shaker, fwiw@@dannynye1731
@JulietHotelFoxtrot
@JulietHotelFoxtrot 9 дней назад
That was my experience as well. I use an Omnifuel, but if you're in temps at 35F or lower, canister stoves really struggle unless you have a generator tube to feed liquid fuel with the can inverted.
@harryrimmer6830
@harryrimmer6830 Год назад
Similar to the wood stove you described, I have always used the standard US Army canteen cup, and the cup stand with which you can either use Trioxane tablets, or in which you can build a twig fire. All of these components fit in the standard canteen cover which attaches to a pistol belt. There are any of a number of "Canteen Cup" recipes which can be used when backpacking, in addition to a standard cup of soup. It is hard to improve on some of the old military gear.
@martinerhard8447
@martinerhard8447 Год назад
for alcohol stoves I found the best are the diy fancy feast ones with carbon felt
@emandejnozka1369
@emandejnozka1369 Год назад
I’ve carried an old SVEA 123 white gas stove for over a half century. It has made it up El Cap and Half Dome. Still works flawlessly. Fits in a kit like the old WWI two man bivvy stove, which, BTW, is also excellent if you could find one.
@lockeshop
@lockeshop 6 месяцев назад
I just found your channel and I love your delivery, conciseness, point system. I'll be binging your vids tonight. Big Kudos.
@echobenav8
@echobenav8 Год назад
Thanks for sharing. This is a good summary of the various stove systems out there. Especially appreciate the note to check where these are legal and safe to use. Here in California, white gas and wood are largely prohibited due to fire danger. At certain times, no stoves of any kind are allowed in the back country. I have alcohol (trangia), white gas (whisperlite), canister (pocket rocket 2), integrated (windburner) and twig (solo stove lite). Which stove is best for me depends on conditions. The most used is the windburner because I usually backpack in areas of high wind (desert and mountains), nothing comes close. The most fun is the twig stove, but only at campsites with fire rings. It's cool to watch the gasification effect. Haven't used alcohol or white gas stoves in a long time, but they are unbreakable.
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
Add a PillBottle Stove to your pack... with all your experence you will have a lot of fun using it. Even in your house.
@louspeed1
@louspeed1 Год назад
During the pandemic when fuel canisters were getting gobbled up, I started using the White Box alcohol stove. As you mention, denatured alcohol is readily available, cheap and fairly easy to use. It even got me watching the 'prepper" youtubers - LOL. I use it for shorter trips when I want to be extra light and only (as you mention) when going to wetter areas. It does great.
@webbtrekker534
@webbtrekker534 4 месяца назад
I started Backpacking in the late 1960's. My first stove was a metal planters Peanut can with the bottom cut out and heavy duty wire bail over the top. The heat source was a can of Sterno and that was locked into the can with plastic lid that fit the peanut can. It was fast lighting , cooked quickly and I could have hot soup when everyone else was munching granola. I could pack the stove up quickly when it was time to continue. I eventually got a white gas stove and later in the 1980's a butane stove but I always fondly remember that Sterno stove and it cost nothing to make.
@SebRaubenheimer
@SebRaubenheimer 9 месяцев назад
If you're getting soot on your mug, put some oil on the bottom before burn. 3 in 1 or something might work. We always used rifle oil for the bottom of mess tins, once you've finished, the soot and crap wipes right off with little to no effort - a godsend when it comes to kit inspection. 🤣
@rob00brown
@rob00brown 9 месяцев назад
I've just used soap to do the same ... Ppl too often grovel about that which can be remedied!
@wr1120
@wr1120 Год назад
Interesting video. I'll get myself a pair of those rocks. I have a whole range of different stoves like the ones featured here and I like the alcohol stove the most. Cooking time is not an issue for me and the only downside is the availability when you're out in the woods. I make my own wind screen from a disposable barbecue plate which sell for less than a dollar after summer. Those barbecue plates have ventilation holes already. Roll it flat, put two slim sticks on the sides for support in the ground, fold it in three parts and you're good to go for a few seasons.
@paulmurgatroyd6372
@paulmurgatroyd6372 Год назад
The pill bottle stove could probably be used effectively in a folding esbit stove, for stability.
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
BTU transfer into the pot is maximum with pot on top of two Tablets and NO stand.
@MrDynamik1
@MrDynamik1 Год назад
The toaks mini alcohol stove is hard to beat in my testing. I use it with the Sterno inferno pot and stand, setup is well under $100 and has never failed me. The mini stove is fine for cook with a skillet too.
@sucofnisucofni8935
@sucofnisucofni8935 6 дней назад
I’ve settled on a Trangia alcohol stove. Small light and doesn’t disturb the peace. I’m not an overnighter, just day hiking. It’s great for a couple cups of coffee and bag meals.
@richardross7219
@richardross7219 Год назад
Very good review. I used to use the Army issued canteen cup and stove with trioxane tablets. The trioxane got too expensive so I went to several tealight candles. They took longer to make a pint boil but they are much cheaper. By cutting down on the number of candles, I was able to simmer or just keep it hot. I like to have tealights in my survival kits for light, heat(hot poncho), and for cooking. Good Luck, Rick
@Isgolo
@Isgolo Год назад
What i do is melt the wax in some tealight candles and stuff them with cotton to increase burning power. They last a lot less, but they are way faster at getting something to boil. I also keep some normal to give low power heat when necessary
@EnnaBartlett
@EnnaBartlett Год назад
I've always stuck with my Trangia, they are heavier than a canister stove but their versatility and safety are brill. And if you do need to lighten the load you can just leave some pots and pans behind.
@markstambaugh3273
@markstambaugh3273 4 месяца назад
In the 1970s I hiked all over the southwest using a 1930s coffee can hobo stove. If I were still backpacking today it would be my no. 1 choice.
@geoffreysaid8020
@geoffreysaid8020 Год назад
Thank you for your comparison videos. It's not often that you come across quality comparison videos on YT. Keep up your good work.
@bravofighter
@bravofighter Год назад
The firebrick stove is a really old idea, but this is a really great refining of the concept. A few years ago…ok, more like 30…a fellow from the Sierra Club had a small bottle with lava stones from a barbecue soaking in zippo fuel. He took one out with a pair of tweezers and lit it in a cat food can, and began adding small twigs to add caloric fuel. What he said made a lot of sense, he said we have to think about fire systems as stored energy and that the challenge is to get it to burn fast enough a safely enough to be handy, but also work in all conditions. When he was finished heating up a cup of water, he picked out the stone and blew it out, and then put it back into the bottle of fuel to soak up for the next time. The support for his cup was just three stones he picked up off the ground. I’ve never used it myself, because I love the convenience of the pocket rocket style stove (I bought two on Amazon for $20, but then I’m not one for name brands🤷‍♂️). Prior to this, I used a Coleman propane bottle-top stove that I took a bandsaw to to cut it down, but propane sucks in the cold. My wife still has one that we didn’t cut down to use when car camping, as it supports a small skillet, and SAWC (see Nutnfancy channel) aren’t as critical. Speaking of Nutn, he has a great video evaluating stoves and fire making systems.
@BrianRPaterson
@BrianRPaterson 9 месяцев назад
I remember reading that in the desert the SAS used to cook over a can full of sand soaked in petrol. Light it, and hey presto. I don't know how they put it out though
@johnshellenberg1383
@johnshellenberg1383 Год назад
I love eating in the backcountry and have a big bunch of stoves including the MSR XGK, MSR WindPro, MSR Reactor, MSR Superfly (old school can-top stove) and MSR Pocket-Rocket. They all have their own strengths and are used depending on the mission. The stove that has me the most intrigued is the pill-bottle stove. I love the simplicity and light weight. I am going to find out more about it!
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
It's like you have been driving an 19 wheeler and now you are on a Harley! It's FUN!
@Mooremoorebobby
@Mooremoorebobby 7 месяцев назад
You and Rob Penton are my favorites. Thank you for being so informative. I love your videos and gear reviews! I travel for work all the time and constantly am looking for “hit the ground” solutions if I get a night outdoors. Thank you for sharing the stones. I have used denatured alcohol in the past and it works ok. But the stones add another “non-liquid” option verses the esbit tabs that break down over a few months. The only thing I have found to work long term are the European fuel tabs that NATO uses. But they leave a residue. This will help me when I fly to a place or country that I may not be able to obtain canister fuel for the first night or two!!!
@randywest9417
@randywest9417 3 месяца назад
great presentation and patient explanation -excellent for us beginners, thank you
@Mike-oz4cv
@Mike-oz4cv Год назад
I’m doing a bit more serious cooking (even if it’s just sautéing some onions before adding water and instant soup) and for me simmering and even heat distribution is really important. It’s also important to be able to easily stir the pot.
@markheming3507
@markheming3507 Год назад
Great video once again Stephen!!!! After spending a ton of money on a Rubbermaid container full of stove ((many that I only used once) before selling them) I went back to my favorites. 1- alcohol stove / aka coke can stove 2- Esbit / solid fuel stove
@notquiteultralight1701
@notquiteultralight1701 Год назад
Nice! Love the simplicity of those choices! I like the wood burning stove the emberlit when there’s plenty of wood. I like the solo wood burner when I’m stealthing because it doesn’t emit a lot of smoke and msr white gas when im deep winter snow camping and you have to process a lot of snow for drinking water and cooking.
@michaelbuckers
@michaelbuckers Месяц назад
During military deployments we've got the flatpack solid fuel stoves included in our MRE packs. They weigh basically nothing and take up almost no space, they also come with their own weatherproof matches. The fuel tabs are just slightly wider than a soda cap, and the square sheet metal stove is about the size of a credit card, you fold its flaps sideways and it makes a disposable upright stove with a fuel slot. The amount of fuel in a single tab is exactly enough to heat up one can of food in the cold, or boil one tiny cup of water in the heat. Pro tip: don't use them to make tea, you'll waste tons of fuel and will have to use other, far less convenient means of heating your food (the only thing better than the flatpack stove is electric kitchen stove). To boil water, make a fire instead. 6:30 at one point during deployment I've made a stove like this out of spent food cans. Seemed like a good idea. The stove wasn't very good. Its biggest issue is that it burns twigs, and the amount of fuel that fits inside is minuscule. Even if you use solid fuel from MREs, you're better off using MRE flatpack stove instead, it's more stable and has less heat leakage.
@Skipper576
@Skipper576 10 месяцев назад
I watch this with no intention of cooking outdoors. 10/10 would do it again.
@TrailBlazer5280
@TrailBlazer5280 Год назад
This is an excellent rundown and I am seriously impressed by the alcohol stones. What a great idea and I especially like that it worked while setting the pot on top of the stones. I mean how easy is that.
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
Yes, no stand needed. Actually cooks faster sitting on the Tablets than on a stand.
@jasonrusch
@jasonrusch Год назад
I love my biolite stove. While it is a little heavy i love that I don't participate in the manufactured fuel cycle. I have a pocket rocket too, but i'm interested in those stones now! Great video!
@MyLifeOutdoors
@MyLifeOutdoors Год назад
They look cool. Unfortunately I’ve never gotten to try one.
@rgmALC
@rgmALC Год назад
A little heavy? Weighs as much as my tent!
@Dirtsk8r
@Dirtsk8r Год назад
@@rgmALC it’s 2lbs and doesn’t require carrying fuel. That’s a better option than most on this list. PLUS it will power lights in your camp! Did you know that? It creates more electricity than it uses on the fan, so it can power USB lighting in your camp. I love my Biolite, yes the stove itself is heavier, but I have unlimited fuel, variable heat, plus power for lighting or charging devices. It’s the future. Lastly, the development of Biolite stoves was directed to address air pollution and 3rd world cooking over open flames. Very cool product and company.
@rgmALC
@rgmALC Год назад
@@Dirtsk8r it’s cool if you are car camping…but other than that, it’s way too heavy. It’s heavier than a UL wood stove and a power bank.
@Oldsparkey
@Oldsparkey Год назад
The one I like is the Firebox Nano Gen 2 Titanium. It can be a Wood burner , an Alcohol stove and even a Propane stove , depends on how you set it up and which one you want at that time. If you combine it with the X Box you have compact ( Clean ) storage for it and even a base to set it on when in use. Plus it is very light and pack able. Two models , Stainless or Titanium.
@doc8125
@doc8125 Год назад
You can also add solid fuel to the list with a bit of modification. I really like the system, plus you can have a nice cozy fire when you want it which is very nice. Doing "sweedish fire" style makes it burn forever without needing to add more fuel which is sweet if you want to simmer something over a longer time or something like that
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
I love wood campfires, but cooking dinner ain't fun on a wood stove, or a stove with lots of parts and pieces that I will surely lose or misplace. We invented the PillBottle stove to make cooking reliable, simple, and ultralight.
@WindsongPodcast
@WindsongPodcast 7 месяцев назад
Can it fit onto a 20 lb propane tank?
@lewismassie
@lewismassie Год назад
Back when I was in the scouts there was a big argument between the leaders in the association between methylated spirits and the gas. We tested both and frankly they were pretty evenly matched. We ended up going with the gas stoves because we had a guy we could get used canisters from for free. I'm still a bit bummed we didn't get to really use the meths stove though, and this stone system looks really neat
@georgemartin1498
@georgemartin1498 Год назад
Thanks for the video! I have, and have used virtually all of these types except for the alcohol saturated stones which, frankly I don’t see as significantly distinct from any number of basic alcohol stoves. For simply aesthetic reasons I prefer an alcohol stove. It’s simple, quiet, clean burning and works at any temperature. Gas canister stoves are certainly the go to choice for most general condition 3 season backpackers, for me as well. Efficient, dead simple and lightweight. However, I live and recreate year round in the Rockies, mostly in alpine environs. Here, there is only one really reliable choice and that is a liquid fuel stove (last on your rating list). A little on the heavy side, a tiny bit more attention consuming in use, but the only thing that works with 100% reliability in alpine conditions (>10m ft./
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
The differences are: 1) no liquid in the PillBottle Stove, can't spill, 2) boilovers do not put out the fire and dilute the alcohol like they do in a cokecan stove, 3) cokecan alcohol stoves crush if you drop a heavy pot or step on them, 4) you can blow out the PillBottle stove like birthday cake candles, 5) no waiting 15 miutes for the cokecan to cool down so you can pour excess liquid to pour back into your fuel bottle ( 6) no waiting a minute or two for the sodacan stove to heat up and spit out the hot flames, 7) you can pick up the PillBottle stove tablets after 30 seconds and put them back in the bottle to recharge (in 6 minutes), 8) the PillBottle stove can burn any flammable fuel if necessary, your sodacan stove will explode if you try to burn gasoline, 9) you need a case to carry the sodacan stove in your pack or it will get bent and start leaking, 10) sodacan stoves have seams that leak, no seams on the PillBottle Stove.
@JohnCoconis
@JohnCoconis Год назад
Msr WhisperLite is the choice for me. The multi fuel options make it incredible in the middle of nowhere. I can always find gasoline or diesel either by asking a rancher or stopping at a small gas station. I've done this more than 10 times and had zero issues getting it to work. As for cooking real food on the trail it is so easy as long as the pressure is low in the canister. (simmer control)
@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy
@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy Год назад
Can see the advantages of multi fuel stoves but I'm put off by the unpleasantness of dealing with gasoline or diesel and the concern that a small spill would stink up my whole backpack contents.
@Carniak
@Carniak Год назад
Folks who don't use multi-fuel stoves will never quite get why we choose to take the extra 4 or 5 oz. extra, if even that. Multi-fuel stoves typically use diesel, gasoline, or kerosene. All of which have much higher energy density than butane, propane, or isobutane (propane/butane mixes). For longer duration trips, multi-fuel stoves will win out in the weigh comparisons. In addition, many canister stoves start failing below 0F (-12C) after a few uses. From experience, this appears to be due to the propane and butane mixtures separating. Once the propane is exhausted, the butane can no longer be extracted from the canisters. All of this is to say nothing of the fine points that you've raised.
@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy
@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy Год назад
@@Carniak The energy density issue became clear to me using an alcohol stove for longer trips. For a day trip the alcohol stove is probably the lightest option, but above 2 days the fuel weight you have to carry becomes significant. So far as I know alcohol fuel is fine to use at any temperature you can encounter on earth, but it's about half the energy density of hydrocarbons.
@JohnCoconis
@JohnCoconis Год назад
@@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy I definitely understand the smell issues however it really isn't that bad. I put mine in the bag with no issues. I can go about 5-(6 if lucky) days with a small can. This includes cold weather and cooking twice a day. I would use the lowest grade fuel possible 85. This has better efficiency and less residue than the higher octane fuels. Just something I've noticed.
@JohnCoconis
@JohnCoconis Год назад
@@Carniak I totally agree. I would like to add that these stoves are great for people who also cook non-packet food. I mostly take potatoes, fresh vegetables, rice, oatmeal, and spices. This stove has improved my ability to go further. Just like the fuel being more energy dense my food selections can also be more energy dense.
@rob00brown
@rob00brown 9 месяцев назад
I like the following setup: candle tins spiral stuffed w/carbon felt & filled w/ alcohol. Up to three under a SP600 or fill two & swap the burnt out one to extend cook time. Stand & windbreaker is a dryer vent 4-5" section of pipe that has snap lock & is drilled cross axis to slide a poultry lacer through to support one side of the cup, the other side is supported by the handles. The snap lock pops open & rolls inside the cup, whole setup very lite, compact, & low cost.
@Ranger2K
@Ranger2K Год назад
Addendum: This gentleman has his act together. His knowledge and skill set are very solid. When you are looking for info on anything Outdoors, THIS IS YOUR GUY!!! Love all the links he provides too!
@w8stral
@w8stral 9 месяцев назад
His "act together??" Who are you kidding? NONE of the heat sources he reviewed other than the white gas(real stove) can you actually cook a meal on... Most of the heat sources he review cannot even heat water for a group... only his own ass. Should have been titled: Bull Shit review of solo hiker loners who only eat Crap dehydrated "meals" where you cannot take these sources of heat into National Forest due to unregulated flames during the high summer months...
@steventanner1428
@steventanner1428 Год назад
I always used to carry a can of Sterno or two. I have the little stove that they go in. I think I packed with it twice. I usually just found some rocks. Then I found a bigger tomato can. I poked holes around the outside along the bottom and the top. The Sterno can sat in the bottom. It made it more wind proof and held the heat in better for faster cooking.
@theotheralan5511
@theotheralan5511 8 месяцев назад
It's bulky, heavy and disposable, but Sterno cans are really easy to light with a Ferro rod in the rain. And they sometimes stock them at the dollar tree.
@sarahlikescanoes
@sarahlikescanoes Год назад
I love using esbit tabs! I have the UL foldering titanium stove base that balances my pot well. You can also use two tabs if you want to do a fast boil if you're cooking for two. They actually come in two different sizes. These are a German product and I think I'll be able to get them in Switzerland when I'm there to trek and bivouac. The major problem I have with them is the smell. They burn clean but the smell they emit before you light them is terrible and I have to keep them in double ziplock bags and avoid directly touching them!
@raphaelmuller353
@raphaelmuller353 Год назад
Even zip bags have not helped for me. I really felt like I was carrying smelly fish with me. If anyone can develop a no smell bag, take my money…
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
I used to use Esbit, but they STINK. The wife makes me put the cubes and stand 20 feet from the tent.
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 Год назад
This reminds me of heating C-rations back in the day: We'd empty a can, punch holes around the bottom and top, then burn heat tabs inside, setting (carefully!) the food being heated on top. I would then use that 'stove' for the time I was in the field. While obviously unsteady, it got the job done. 😎
@ki6hzs
@ki6hzs Месяц назад
I got tired of having to put the pressurised gas canister in my sleeping bag with me at night 40 years ago…When the outside temperature dropped very low they just won’t work. Have to warm them up first. Back then I went with sterno cans backpacking. Always worked fine and super light.
@evanhammond7305
@evanhammond7305 Год назад
I got most of them. I still go for the cannister stove. The Soto windmaster is my favorite out of the 5 I have. But I do love a alcohol stove if I'm not cooking, just boiling.
@Sunila_DragonladyCH
@Sunila_DragonladyCH Год назад
I've been intrigued by the biolite stoves, especially since you can produce electricity while you use them. Very clever invention
@65BAJA
@65BAJA 11 месяцев назад
Lately, when motorcycle camping, I have been using a genuine Bushbuddy stove and a MSR Windburner. Though I haven't used the Windburner for anything more than a coffee cup. The Bushbuddy is so convenient.
@pierrelachance123
@pierrelachance123 Год назад
thank you for your reviews. I still use my MSR Whisperlite international with trillium accessory on legs and disk plate atop burner to aid in simmering. Use a dab of fuel paste in primer cup for start-up. Has a self cleaning pin in the jet. Less relying on weather conditions, location or fuel availability to use. I find a wider pot more practical than narrow and tall one.
@jonasklein7260
@jonasklein7260 Год назад
You gotta try the Soto Stormbreaker, I absolutely love it. You can use white gasoline or gas from canisters. And if you want to use white gasoline, you don't have this open flame for preheating the stove, as it just doesn't need it! And it's kinda quiet compared to other stoves.
@hungryromanians
@hungryromanians Год назад
Hi buddy 😻 we just bought the Stormbreaker and we want to try it with white gas too. In Romania after some Google searches we came up with the conclusion that the equivalent of white gas would be Neophal, which is naptha based like Coleman fuel (White gas) is. Any experience with this type of fuel? What kind of white gas ⛽️ do you use? Thank you 🙏🥰
@ac7202
@ac7202 Год назад
@@hungryromanians You probably don't have to use any exact chemical formula for your burner. FWIW "white gas" is a generic term for no additives gasoline, and naphtha-based fuels. E.g. this Coleman thing changed its chemical contents several times through history, and people continue to use, and nothing essential has been broken as far as I can tell. I have Optimus white gas burner, and often use a type of gasoline marketed as a solvent in my country, and it works fine.
@hungryromanians
@hungryromanians Год назад
@@ac7202 we noticed that this Neophal is very similar to your typical solvent used to dilute paint 🎨😀
@jonasklein7260
@jonasklein7260 Год назад
@@hungryromanians Well I'm from Germany and what I'm using is "Waschbenzin" (basically the solvent that @A/C uses) which I think is just white gasoline. But you can just use standard gasoline from the gas station, it'll just be not as good for the burner and is not recommended(Only use if you can't get any white gasoline!). A friend of mine said it can even run with Diesel but I'm not sure if he ever tried that, although I for sure didn't try ^^ I gotta admit though, when I was in northern Sweden I had no idea where to get white gasoline and just filled two bottles with standard gas and the burner still worked like a charm after 2.5 weeks of use. And back then I still had a crappy MSR burner...
@jimtitt3571
@jimtitt3571 Год назад
@@jonasklein7260 I am also in Germany (but English) and used white gas/ petrol stoves for the last 50 years or so, as I camp from a motorcycle weight isn't the most important so I use a Coleman Sporster (doesn't need preheating, the Soto one doesn't either) either on waschbenzine, car painters panel wipe or when on tour just fuel from the bike. I've run four weeks on normal petrol before needing to clean the vaporisor tube though if you run some white gas for a while through it clears it a bit. Carb cleaner works well to clear it out. Somewhere on the internet is an extensive table of what all the fuels are called in various countries.
@xxbambamxx7261
@xxbambamxx7261 Год назад
You can use prous concrete bricks too, I've done that for many years, but I soak them in my own blend of burning liquids, and they will burn clean for up to 40min, and then leave a nice heat when cooling down.. I've used it in my tent to keep myself warm, and to cook with.
@phwar123
@phwar123 Год назад
what's in your blend of burning liquids?
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
The Pillbottle stove tablets cool down is 30 seconds, that is very handy for recharging them over and over for big cooks
@mamadragon2581
@mamadragon2581 Месяц назад
Many, many years ago, I bought a GAZ Globetrotter stove that I absolutely loved. (Anyone else remember those?) It was a well-thought out bit of equipment. But then you couldn't find the little blue gas canisters anymore for love or money. And even though the stove was useless after we emptied the last canister in 2001, I hung onto it for the memories. And I'm glad I did. Apparently, Coleman bought GAZ and killed the stove and canister design. But 2 days ago I found an article about how to retro-fit a Globetrotter to take modern fuel canisters. It was insanely easy and fast to do, took 5 ounces off the weight of the stove, and best of all? It involved cannibalizing a Coleman Peak 1 stove we had hanging around.
@winconfig
@winconfig 8 месяцев назад
Was talking with my aunt last night about Banff-ing around in Canada for the winter. Naturally, SkyNet detected this and began suggesting to me outdoor lifestyle videos. I've probably watched five or six back-to-back and I'm very impressed with your quality and presentation! I really like your videos!
@salimufari
@salimufari Год назад
I think making those stone puck forms about the same size as a hockey puck & storing them in a like sized container would make up for the balance issues.
@eekee6034
@eekee6034 Год назад
Yeah, and only 1 stone instead of 2. I'm not quite sure it would burn the same, though.
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
There is a bigger version - the Paintcan Stove, 3" pucks
@neotrekk
@neotrekk 10 месяцев назад
We now sell the big brother, the PaintCan stove with stones the size of a hocky puck.
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