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Bad Gear - Elektron Digitakt - Overpriced Mono Drum Sampler??? 

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Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Elektron Digitakt. Is it more than an overpriced mono drum sampler? Will there be death threats?
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@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Other episodes that almost broke my heart 😢 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J2Z89PxXBqg.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cI6YDQLwxpM.html
@distantcomets
@distantcomets 3 года назад
The Microkorg gets hate proportional to how insanely well it's sold. It's arguably one of the very best selling synths ever and certainly the best selling synth of the last 20 years. That's gonna breed some haters...
@snowleopard9749
@snowleopard9749 3 года назад
Blasphemy!
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound 3 года назад
The great thing about your channel to me, is this: Some folks will wake up, discovering it's not the machine that makes or breaks a musician. Great machines are the ones that allow your expression to flow. What's terrible for one, is great for another. Wanna know what one of my favorite machines of all time is? Don't laugh! Promise? -Yamaha SU700. I bought one new, when it came out in 99. I worked in kbds/pro audio at Guitar Center in Roseville Michigan at the time. I made so much music on that weird thing, I literally had to turn one entire large dresser drawer into a 3.5" disk storage. I bought 3.5"'s by the case. Before I went to the SU700, I was on the Akai S900, sequenced by various other machines. 🤪😁 Kero over in Canada has my old SU now. He installed a microSD drive. (I think) 😂
@mechasartre3694
@mechasartre3694 3 года назад
Ive owned a micro korg and almost bought another yesterday until I remembered that i hated it
@distantcomets
@distantcomets 3 года назад
@@mechasartre3694 What did you hate about it? Just curious. I sold mine on eventually, but only because at some point I'd outgrown the sound and those stupid mini keys... but for me it was, and is still an effective 200 bucks (used) worth of synth...
@RickyTinez
@RickyTinez 3 года назад
Couldn't agree more with how dated, yet futuristic this product is haha. Thanks for the shoutout homie! ❤
@juliansvidal
@juliansvidal 3 года назад
love your videos man :)
@Raysist
@Raysist 3 года назад
ayyy Ricky, just binged several of your videos
@adamquek1095
@adamquek1095 3 года назад
Ooooh....
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Always a pleasure, nice to have you around!
@thealmightycommenter
@thealmightycommenter 3 года назад
Uncle Ricky!
@VincentsVideoVisions
@VincentsVideoVisions 3 года назад
The Digitakt is a great machine but I sold mine. Actually, I've bought and sold two. It's not because it's a bad machine, it's because in my setup it was too redundant. I have a MPC One and a TR8s and the Digitakt just wasn't needed. Also, the MPC One can do a lot of stuff that the DT can't. My main gripe about the DT is the lack of timestretch. That said, the DT is an excellent machine and I think the form factor is just about perfect. It's also a hell of a lot easier to learn and use than the Octatrack.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Yeah, there's quite some competition
@ThatJerseyBloke
@ThatJerseyBloke 3 года назад
I'm along the same lines. I'm selling my Digitakt because I'm just more comfortable with Impact XT in Studio One with a Presonus ATOM controller. More immediate too as I constantly end up fiddling with the Digitakt to get the sounds I'm after and tend to just lose my creative vision with the song I'm working on because of it.
@christdolphin69
@christdolphin69 3 года назад
once again proof that only people too stupid to learn the complexity of these machines are the ones who criticize it. maybe the problem is you. the elektron boxes are much more powerful than you will ever realize
@VincentsVideoVisions
@VincentsVideoVisions 3 года назад
@@christdolphin69 I've had a md, mkii is, mnm, a4, ot, rytm, digitakt. Etc. Basically everything. So yeah shove that ignorant comment back up your ass
@jetbreak
@jetbreak 2 года назад
I appreciate this comment. I too have an MPC One and a TR8S as was intrigued by the Digitakt but like you say, there's not a whole lot it can do that the gear I already have can't. Thanks for saving me $800 ;)
@localhost4460
@localhost4460 3 года назад
I don't understand the thought process behind a modern sampler without time stretch :/. Why!? Great video!
@johnruschulte2593
@johnruschulte2593 3 года назад
The thought process is don’t compete with your own flagship product that costs twice as much I reckon.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 3 года назад
Not only that but only 64mb RAM? lol seriously?
@jackjones513
@jackjones513 3 года назад
As always best music show on youtube :)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thank you so much!
@alexanderfrei9712
@alexanderfrei9712 3 года назад
Just a couple days after I put mine on willhaben haha Perfect timing and great video!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
lol, I'll keep mine ;)
@alexanderfrei9712
@alexanderfrei9712 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz Hit me up if you want a second 😉
@cunty
@cunty 3 года назад
“I’m having a much more fun time with a broken shoe lace” AAAAAAAAAAAHH
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
That one cracked me up, too
@Ml-jb5xv
@Ml-jb5xv 2 года назад
Hast du den Beat bei 5:03 zum Track gemacht und i wo veröffentlicht?😍
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Danke! Gute Frage, muss ich mal schauen;)
@justink8156
@justink8156 3 года назад
YOU'RE THE MADLAD FOR THIS HAHAHA have a good day everyone
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I like to live dangerous...
@justink8156
@justink8156 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz Love your channel dude your content is lots of fun and your unique presentation only gets better and better 😁
@kcosminhz7988
@kcosminhz7988 3 года назад
can you do a bad gear episode on my life?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
That one had me rofling. Thanks!
@latontolog
@latontolog 3 года назад
"At first sight, your life checks all the boxes.."
@boazeilander3617
@boazeilander3617 3 года назад
Controversial episode this time XD
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I like to live dangerous ;)
@ropeburn6684
@ropeburn6684 3 года назад
"This time"... XD
@raum3354
@raum3354 3 года назад
Thin ICE
@macalby
@macalby 3 года назад
I bought a digitakt because youtube influencers told me to and l will never part with it ❤️ Ready to get triggered while I program trigless trigs
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Conditionally triggered, of course;)
@ubiquitousreverser
@ubiquitousreverser 3 года назад
😆 As Digitakt sales now rise.
@v0Xx60
@v0Xx60 3 года назад
'Nukes and Grannies' I died.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I don't even understand myself anymore ;)
@vprice509
@vprice509 3 года назад
That was probably the best yet. It kills me that he is so aware of how English speakers hear his German (Austrian?) accent.
@saschaz483
@saschaz483 3 года назад
oh man... nooks and crannies ! as a [t'schörman inglisch spieker] myself, this took me waaay too long to get it, hahaha! added to my vocab list.
@tdzucker
@tdzucker 3 года назад
Can we talk about Zoe or Zelda with Nixon Reagan I mean how tf does he even think of this
@vprice509
@vprice509 3 года назад
@@saschaz483 LOL [t'schörman inglisch spieker] ... Americaner hier. Ick can ine bishunn Doych Sprecken.
@marcoabyss
@marcoabyss 3 года назад
memes/rumors/jokes that AudioPliz is secretly a vaporwave producer is shut down by a Cold As Ice Nordic Understatement Maximinimal Fibonaccitech jam.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I'm more into ItaloDisco ;)
@DerekPower
@DerekPower 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz So what you are saying is you are really with The Chromatics 😁
@MoraFermi
@MoraFermi 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz As long as it's not Disco Polo...
@ubiquitousreverser
@ubiquitousreverser 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz Love that little groove by the way. I try and get my wife involved in jams and she was digging it, so I will be recreating it with her tonight for some fun! ❤️ Love your show by the way, is the OT going to come under the chopping block now too?
@littlegeorge69
@littlegeorge69 3 года назад
@@MoraFermi hey you leave disco polo out of this!
@andrewobuchow
@andrewobuchow 3 года назад
It’s hard to understate how amazing and high quality the content of this channel is. From the writing, video editing to the music jams - it’s ticking all the boxes ;)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thank you so much!
@conradtm
@conradtm 3 года назад
Who the hell commented “Shoddy build quality” in the text wall? I’ve got my own issues with the Digitakt but I could probably hurl that thing under a steamroller and it feels like it would still come out ok.
@ruslanr.6171
@ruslanr.6171 3 года назад
rumors say he spends couple of days composing those.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
It referred to the jack ins/outs and I would agree that there is room for improvement (not enclosure-mounted)
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 3 года назад
yeah shoddy build quality is not rally somethin that is typical for Elektron gear. Maybe some sharp edges of the metal but that's about t.
@goodboid
@goodboid 3 года назад
Apart from sticky keys, I agree with you
@OscillatorSink
@OscillatorSink 3 года назад
Oh cool. Now we have to start RU-vid drama.
@caydilemma3309
@caydilemma3309 3 года назад
Oscillator Sink diss track incoming
@OscillatorSink
@OscillatorSink 3 года назад
@@caydilemma3309 yeah, I'm gonna spit some real truth... Then slow it down 80x and pop it over some heavy drone.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I'm in!
@MarkBayfieldvillageidiot
@MarkBayfieldvillageidiot 3 года назад
😂👍
@sebp400
@sebp400 3 года назад
@@OscillatorSink _Paulstretch has entered the chat..._
@mycosys
@mycosys 3 года назад
'limitation sparks creativity' god am i feeling that atm
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
It's true!
@MegaCadr
@MegaCadr 3 года назад
“How to listen to dawless jams” nearly made me spit out my coffee.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Chech out "Synth Memes" on FB. Pure gold!
@jonpatchmodular
@jonpatchmodular 3 года назад
@Shocks From Beyond I think you don't get it
@DeeJay003
@DeeJay003 3 года назад
@Shocks From Beyond I think it's more a case of that you know what really good techno sounds like, unlike the majority - who didn't experience the really excellent underground techno of the 90's.
@mechasartre3694
@mechasartre3694 3 года назад
Said every old man to every young person ever
@TM-sw2uw
@TM-sw2uw 3 года назад
@@mechasartre3694 Ironic that most of the retail addict synth collectors farting out these nonsense, shitty "jams" are middle aged divorcees.
@simon4815
@simon4815 3 года назад
This episode is LEGENDARY, and so are your jams! I'm loving how divided the comments are :D There's only one place left to go after the MicroKORG and Digitakt -- the teenage engineering OP-1??
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks! I will have to get a bodyguard before I do the OP ;)
@t3hjnz
@t3hjnz 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz I'll chip in for bodyguards, because [glances around furtively] I hate the OP-1 .
@illustriouschin
@illustriouschin 3 года назад
I also vote OP-1 if you can get one without giving TE the blood money.
@illford
@illford 3 года назад
@@t3hjnz I think it'd nice but holy hell is it overpriced. Considering making a synth gets cheaper and cheaper even with high quality as the Hydrasynth proves I don't see why they're allowed to make me into a Zimbabwean peasent
@t3hjnz
@t3hjnz 3 года назад
@@illford only if you give them your money. PS I hope you're officially Illford photography supplies because (1) I'm a huge fan; and (2) the crossover here is impressively weird.
@nunce3813
@nunce3813 3 года назад
This machine is wonderful and I will never sell it but FU** ELEKTRON WHERE IS THE BAND-PASS FILTER ?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Goddammit, we need that BPF!!!
@vidalgarciapoblador2088
@vidalgarciapoblador2088 3 года назад
Finally. THANK YOU
@LukezyM
@LukezyM 3 года назад
Second filter(base width) like the Digitone has, please!
@naught101
@naught101 2 года назад
In there now, in V1.30 :)
@snoogllies
@snoogllies 3 года назад
No he didn’t
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
It was too tempting, sorry...
@fa0179
@fa0179 3 года назад
You just upset a lot of hipsters.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I'm used to that;)
@Gaiadarko
@Gaiadarko 3 года назад
What's with the volca sample aftercredits scene? Did I miss something?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
The pitch range of the DT is limited to 24 steps in each direction. WTF
@Scyber_Official
@Scyber_Official 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz Did you know that the tempo on the Volca Sample can be set to 10bpm to 600bpm. Korg puts little Easter eggs into each all their gear - it's just a matter of pressing the correct buttons together before powering on.
@marantz1
@marantz1 3 года назад
Its kinda a crappy MPC for hipsters
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Not the first hipster instrument on this channel ;)
@playgroundofsound7683
@playgroundofsound7683 3 года назад
Hahahahahha
@ildarkinildarkin
@ildarkinildarkin 3 года назад
Please make video on IK Uno Synth, MPC 500, Volca NuBass.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Great input, thanks!
@beaticulous
@beaticulous 3 года назад
I feel a line has been crossed with this episode. I don't even care about the Digitakt but so many do. Now, every machine is free game as the haters start to gather fresh victims to the sacrificial altar of Bad Gear. Even my sacred Rhythm Wolf is howling in terror. What if the sound of non-special audio equipment overflow the ether. ;)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Amen!
@danarves7452
@danarves7452 3 года назад
First?!
@gintonika
@gintonika 3 года назад
Second :D
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Congrats!
@Morne555
@Morne555 3 года назад
1062th !
@Scyber_Official
@Scyber_Official 3 года назад
Never been this early and my digitakt is sitting right next to me.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Same here!
@WingHouseCup
@WingHouseCup 3 года назад
Same. Lovingly stroking its clicky buttons right now. :D
@ThinkerThunker
@ThinkerThunker 3 года назад
"Nukes and grannies" :) And yeah, after wanting one since they first came out, I bought a used Elektron Analog Four. Wobbly knobs, flat sound, clumsy work-flow etc .... I was expecting a 10 out of Elektron, but now that I've owned one (and sold it,) I would give them a four.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Great input, thanks!
@kvancgerek8656
@kvancgerek8656 3 года назад
OP1 next please! Anyways glad to see somebody approaching it with a critical style rather than only trying to justify the massive price. When you can for example buy a midi controller and an ipad and apps that turn it to a music making beast that can do more than a digitakt or op1 and for about half their price you really start to question... Sure these devices have that tactile feel and the aesthetics are on point but these are all computers at the end of the day and a pc/ipad can do everything a digitakt does better for a better price with the right software and midi controllers also you get a device that you can do other stuff besides music! But I also understand why elektron/teenage engineering devices are overpriced after all they appeal to a much smaller audience compared to general computers so if they wanna make money the profit has to be high per unit too.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
OP1 came up quite a few times. Thanks for the input!
@synthoelectro
@synthoelectro 3 года назад
Finally someone agrees with me on the crazy piece of those things!
@moistpeanut5986
@moistpeanut5986 3 года назад
Yeah its overpriced... but isnt anything Swedish overpriced?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
That's what I thought
@Marquinhos1901
@Marquinhos1901 3 года назад
You either really vibe with the elektron work flow or you hate it. Its not for everyone. I like the digitakt but wouldn’t be able to work with say an octa. Especially the mk1. i think for the money it makes a great central control of a 2/3 machine dawless set up altho it can support up to 8 if say you just do dawless jamming for fun. Its also very portable. Its a great grrovebox and drum machine imo as well.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Yeah, it's a love/hate thing!
@harryefellows
@harryefellows 3 года назад
I can't say for sure but I do believe that not everybody will be happy about this one
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
No death threats yet ;)
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 3 года назад
Let the haters hate xD
@5imian
@5imian 3 года назад
You should do a series called Rad Gear, where you find unexpected hidden 💎 gems 💎. Like underused, rare or unexpectedly powerful for its pricepoint.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Rad Gear already in planning!
@neonpop80
@neonpop80 2 года назад
Such an expensive thing that cant do a basic thing like step loop... I own one and that one option irks me. It needs to have some fun effects
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Yeah, it's the Elektron way...
@tziirkq
@tziirkq 3 года назад
Alright, I've never had a suggestion, but this one made me think of a REAL piece of bad gear. The Akai MPX8 / MPX16. Without a doubt THE WORST piece of equipment I have, I literally can't give it away.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
True that, they're on top of my list but I want a used one that is totally messed up to make it more interesting;)
@SynthAddict
@SynthAddict 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz I use the MPX8 to augment the short samples of my OP-1 (and have some vel pads) and it's portable with a powerbank - it's cheap and is missing a bunch, and the start time and sample load time sucks, but I found it's a decent companion for a specific workflow
@tziirkq
@tziirkq 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz I will send you mine.
@niktonpanaflex7831
@niktonpanaflex7831 3 года назад
Yo. F%$# the MPX-8. It had one job to do. And could not do that job.
@rashodlewis2918
@rashodlewis2918 3 года назад
lol I got both of those samplers. Not the best pieces of gear. I use them to trigger samples and loops.
@Taschenschieber
@Taschenschieber 3 года назад
This pandemic is really screwing up my sense of time. I didn't think it was April 1st already.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Even Ricky Tinez dared to critizise the DT ;)
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz And he had some valid complaints about it.
@rars0n
@rars0n 3 года назад
I admit, I'm an Elektron virgin. My first purchase was the Model:Samples based on the strength of Stimming's review. There seems to be a special nature to the Elektron workflow and people who know it inside and out seem to love it for what it is. I haven't familiarized myself with the Model:Samples enough yet to know whether I like that workflow, but I'm pretty sure I do. The M:S is an absolutely amazing machine for its (admittedly discounted) price and you cannot go wrong with buying one for $299. I think it's a damn steal. The thing has a way of making me want to play with it and I often find myself fairly shocked at what it can do. If Elekton's more expensive stuff is as good as it seems, then I think they're probably worth buying. It seems like opinions heavily depend upon whether they like the Elektron workflow or not. I rather like it. It's one of the most intuitive instruments I've ever owned.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
True, the M:S is a real bargain
@johngannon
@johngannon 3 года назад
Too much menu-digging for my tastes.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Fair point!
@stereosaur
@stereosaur 2 года назад
Lol, okay dude. This series was pretty entertaining at first, but is now just kinda coming off as a sort of "If you can't afford to spend more than $1,000+ on a piece of gear, you're buying bad gear" elitism.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thank you for the feedback. I think most gear is "bad" regardless of price but I just can't afford the +1000 bucks stuff;)
@afxtwinreverb
@afxtwinreverb 2 года назад
Most gear is pretty bad under 1000. It's not elitism, it's sad.
@PaulSalamoneComedy
@PaulSalamoneComedy 3 года назад
hahaha I love my DT but I was perversely hoping for a more cutting hatchet job, you nail all the problems in the first 2 minutes and then you're fairly kind >:)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
My DT-fanboying aside: it is what it is
@dg9576
@dg9576 10 месяцев назад
you need to update this since os 1.5 ;)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 10 месяцев назад
I know;)
@DopamineOverload
@DopamineOverload 2 года назад
First off-- that boombap beat you threw together is dope as hell. Secondly.. I feel like the Digitakt is insanely overpriced, for what it does/can do. It's now $60 more than the Akai MPC One. It used to be about the same price until everything went up. Digitakt: - audio tracks are monophonic - midi tracks are polyphonic, but you need external hardware (and only 4 notes per track) - basically a "9-track sequencer" if you think about it-- the audio track (8 sounds, with sample locks, etc), plus 8 four-note midi tracks - Chance / Probability (HUGE plus) - mildly confusing screen - no touch-sensitive pads (same-feel step buttons, as function buttons) - step / chromatic layout (a little confusing for some) - no timestretch - 64mb of sample storage (per project) - 128 total patterns (per project) - sampling directly into it - great effects - 64-step sequencer MPC One: - way more than 64-step sequencer - drumkits alone, are essentially 128 audio tracks (polyphonic, if you want) - 128 MIDI tracks (per Sequence / Project) - 8 linear audio tracks (per Sequence / Project) - detailed, full-color screen (touch if you want... you don't need to touch it, most of the time) - touch-sensitive pads (classic 4x4 grid) - polyphonic sequencing (internally or externally), more than 4 notes - monophonic sequencing (internally / externally) - timestretch / looping mode - 2GB of onboard RAM - SD card storage (up to 512GB, I think, maybe more) - sampling directly into it - built-in plugins (quite nice-sounding!) - great effects - configurable XY fx (with touchscreen) - scale mode for melodic instruments or plugins - chord mode (plus, input your own chord sets!) - step-sequencing (not as intuitive as Elektron's, of course) I like Elektron stuff a lot. I own a Model:Samples, which satisfies my cravings for chance/probability sequencing. It has two less tracks than the Digitakt, and no sampling... but, it's only $300. Transferring samples is pretty easy, via a computer. And while I wish the font was a LOT smaller when browsing for samples... (hello Elektron??), it truly does a great job. If you're craving a Digitakt... go straight for the MPC One and save yourself a few bucks. It's totally worth it. And this is coming from a longtime Akai hater. I LOVE my One. Every time I watch videos on the Digitakt, I just don't find it worth the insanely high asking price. It should be $500, not $860. And what it does, it does well.... but... I don't know. It needs some more firmware updates to make it worth the asking price.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
I think it's just Swedish prices;)
@bike.krueger
@bike.krueger Год назад
+1 props for your boom bap banger!
@censoredialogue
@censoredialogue 11 месяцев назад
would love to see this revisited after update 1.50
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 11 месяцев назад
Great idea, thanks!!!
@greatheightsu
@greatheightsu 3 года назад
All of the complaints on the BAD GEAR check seemed the same, but "this was like programming a Commodore 64 with boxing gloves on." was a unique lol. Complaints aside, all my favourite youtubers love this thing, so by transitive property, I love this thing.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
'I'm having a much more fun time with a broken shoe lace' was my fav, tbh ;)
@SilentPity
@SilentPity 3 года назад
You should check out the Model:Cycles. It's a dumbed down Digitone that has a distinct and very limited audio palette. I still struggle to get it to sound good in my setups.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Always thought that this was awesome...
@christdolphin69
@christdolphin69 3 года назад
the cycles rules. it is actually incredibly cheap for it's complex sequencing and performance abilities and the interface is extremely intuitive. you can produce percussion sounds that aren't possible with other drum machines and it's not so limited once you learn how to properly utilize synthesis and sound design techniques, especially once you understand the power of elektron machines is in combining the internal modular capabilities (modulation/p locking/sound locks/retrigs/ctrl all/pattern reload) with the sound sources. the only people that criticize elektron are the people that didnt take the time to properly get to know what they are capable of
@NathanChisholm041
@NathanChisholm041 2 года назад
I've got Cycles but its very limited...
@Roboprogs
@Roboprogs 3 года назад
Shout out to Ivar! He does some good stuff with his Digi’s.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Great structure in his videos!
@thecandidemrsinus8169
@thecandidemrsinus8169 3 года назад
True
@nomad1517
@nomad1517 2 года назад
It looks like something Ridley Scott would have used in alien in 1979. Like it belongs on the nostromo. Idk why, just reminded me.
@CC-fi3pp
@CC-fi3pp 3 года назад
Unfortunately it is overrated, makes me unhappy to admit this ☹
@MarneusAndMilkyBlood
@MarneusAndMilkyBlood 3 года назад
Hu ho, what's up with that little peek of the volca at the end? A sequel hook for the AudioPilz cinematic universe? Amazing video by the way!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks! Well, just a little stab as the DT only has a +/-24 pitch range
@GooWorldOrder
@GooWorldOrder 3 года назад
Didn't expect this title bro. Elektron, bad gear??? Although...I feel like I know many who ended up selling their digitakt even though it was "cool" 🤔🤔🤔
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
There are some limitations that can be a dealbreaker
@CivSkates
@CivSkates 2 года назад
1600th comment say this gear still rocks.
@ryancollings
@ryancollings 3 года назад
Do the op-1
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
It's on my list! Thanks for the suggestion!
@ryancollings
@ryancollings 3 года назад
​@@AudioPilz One of my favourite ever pieces of gear, but you could tear it apart in the most entertaining way xD Thanks for your videos my guy.
@naught101
@naught101 2 года назад
Have had both. OP-1 definitely has more problems.
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 3 года назад
Sounds just like my Korg Volca Sample... for 10x the price!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Shots fired;)
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 3 года назад
Ok, ok, I'm jealous and want a Digitakt... does my jealousy show? But I love the Volca Sample anyway!
@council_juice
@council_juice 3 года назад
I'm always considering selling my digitakt when i look at it on paper and how limited it is. But then i load it up and start jamming with it & quickly forget others opinions. It's FUN FUN FUN! the most fun piece of gear I own.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Agreed! Sounds great too!
@cosmosynthesizer
@cosmosynthesizer 3 года назад
Recycle! On Mac. The really good days. And the desktop was smacking @that time. OS9 ruled.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Loved OS9
@voltijuice8576
@voltijuice8576 3 года назад
I always keep a few OS 9 systems around.
@cosmosynthesizer
@cosmosynthesizer 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz oh yes. Strange midi sets with OMS but it really worked and was solid as rock. Always.
@FCZassendorp
@FCZassendorp 3 года назад
Maybe give the Electribe 2 (Sampler) the treatment?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
It's on my list, thanks for the suggestion!
@phdj535
@phdj535 3 года назад
I agree! I own the E2s, it is a centerpiece of my studio, and a perfect example of a love-hate relationship. It sucks so badly in some things, but its just so damn useful for other things.
@FCZassendorp
@FCZassendorp 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz Cool, look forward to it 😯
@FCZassendorp
@FCZassendorp 3 года назад
@@phdj535 I totally agree. What sucks about it in your opinion?
@vaprex
@vaprex Год назад
I wonder what AuidoPlz would think of the way Elektron didn't abandon this gear, but instead took criticisms like this, and released OS version 1.50 with all (or at least almost all) of these fixed! Come on guys, give Elektron [Digitakt] some love for not just pushing out a "new model" that is just an old hardware with new firmware... They actually improve the product for people that have owned the same hardware for over 5 years!!! Who else does that?
@donaldpriola1807
@donaldpriola1807 3 года назад
The Elektron workflow will always have its critics, for sure. Their instruments require a bit of patience, but once you get there, it's awesome. I find I don't mind the mono samples, because of the ability to change panning per step (and any setting per step). It beats other samplers hands down with its modulation and trig conditions. Given what some other companies charge for grooveboxes, its price is reasonable, given the quality of the device. I get the hate over the learning curve, and surprising limitations, but frankly they couldn't do everything. It's jumping over to the Elektron way of thinking that leads to "bad gear" quotes. Nice episode!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@TheBBQify
@TheBBQify 3 года назад
Yesss im not gonna lie, im kinda tired of this thing being worshipped on reddit, just shut up, save your money, and download ableton LMAO
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Got a torrent? ;)
@TheBBQify
@TheBBQify 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz dont you use ableton for your intro🤔🤔? And unfortunately no, i actually bought it legally 😭
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 3 года назад
Well some folks cannot and don't want to work with software. Especially not with Ableton Live. Personally I prefer hardware to touch.
@zeproo
@zeproo 3 года назад
7:07 EX-CEL-LENT , you've done it again, I want this on my radio. Where to download ?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@CneeKrunch
@CneeKrunch 3 года назад
I have a mini brute and love it but I hear people get mad at mini/micro brute. Maybe give that one a peek.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
There's a (highly controversial) MiniBrute episode out there ;)
@CneeKrunch
@CneeKrunch 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz Lol just watched it and it was spot on. It was my first synth ever and it really helped me learn synthesis.
@aphexon.
@aphexon. 3 года назад
I hate everything from electron, not my way of working and sounds plastic.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
It is indeed special and doesn't click with everyone
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 3 года назад
lol we all knew this video was coming.... Honestly, it was a great deal at the time but then the MPC ONE happened...... RIP
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I've yet to try the "one" - is it that good?
@AveMcree
@AveMcree 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz Given it's price point, cv/gate, song mode, recordable track mutes, velocity sensitive pads (though they are small), sampling, & built-in synthesizer. Yeah, it's pretty good.
@jaystink
@jaystink 3 года назад
Your seamless integration of the digitakt into the narration is a testament to how fun it is to play. Bravo.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@citruesilver
@citruesilver 3 года назад
...of course not!... another bad gear episode bordering on blasphemy... I luv it 😁 and it sounds finger lickin good...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thou shalt not have any other gods before the almighty Elektron (Thanks;)
@ChumpyDumps
@ChumpyDumps 3 года назад
Ohhhh daaaammmmmn. Didnt think you'd get there lol. Now I'm afraid you'll tackle the Octatrack which is far more more convoluted for people lol. But Octatrack definitely doesn't feel constrained the way the Digitakt does.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I'll certainly have to take a closer look at the OT
@ShaighJosephson
@ShaighJosephson 3 года назад
Quality build...then makes the buttons sound like flimsy cheap plastic... Lol... 😂
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I have to admit that these buttons give me the tingles every single time ;)
@technodrone313
@technodrone313 3 года назад
I just got a tr-6s. It won't be making this series.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Challenge accepted ;)
@technodrone313
@technodrone313 3 года назад
@@Leviathan-mj8gi usb bus powered. sends 6 audio channels to my daw.
@technodrone313
@technodrone313 3 года назад
@@Leviathan-mj8gi I already have 3 other drum machines. I couldn't justify the 8s
@SyncdAlien
@SyncdAlien 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz 😂
@koskey06
@koskey06 Год назад
I just don't understand how something in my pocket "cell phone" can be a tv , game console, music production center, and anything I want it to do! And all for as cheap as $50 or $100 for a name brand. But yet, we CAN'T get even simple features for under $400 and even if you spend $1000 plus it still wont do everything..... meaning there are limits on memory or a decent screen or OS..... It's like they are using computer hardware from 93.....
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Год назад
So true!!
@gooneybird808
@gooneybird808 3 года назад
I’ve bought and solid this effin thing 3 times....I love it but I hate it just the same haha. same with the digitone, it sounds so amazing but making stuff can be frustrating.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
That's what I would call an on/off relationship ;)
@ernie548
@ernie548 2 года назад
Now that's funny.. :)
@joshuamorganmusic
@joshuamorganmusic 3 года назад
Yaaaaaas!!! I’ve never liked this one, I mean it’s freakin MONO samples?!?!! And no song mode?!?! It’s not the 1908’s
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
...I still REALLY like it ;)
@voltijuice8576
@voltijuice8576 3 года назад
Stereo gear can be a chore if one is not creating music in stereo.
@joshuamorganmusic
@joshuamorganmusic 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz yeah I do too. It’s more immediate than my octatrack, more like a groove box than anything though without song mode.
@Jhgkgfghk7
@Jhgkgfghk7 3 года назад
I thought I was a DT wizard until I saw you pull up a menu that I swear I never saw before 😂. Encapsulates how wonderful and yet onerous it is to truly leverage this beautiful machine. 👏
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Yeah, that one keeps you excited
@quantrox8191
@quantrox8191 Год назад
Did you RTFM? :)
@progwaver
@progwaver 3 года назад
Thats true... Every gear have even if they are cool and have great features also a DARK SIDE... I had so many things under my fingers in the last 30 years of instruments and other gear.. that i might would say you find bad gear content even in a Waldorf Wave or in a Moog Minimoog Model D.. a Memory Moog is not even less annoying if the Autotune never works as it should do... and a PPG Wave 2.3 so annoying is to program... The bad gong on if you take a JD 800 as a simple sample player with many faders not quite good samples.. easy to program but limitated in what it finally can do...only 6 voice polyphony in full stackmode and the Multitimbral mode is a joke.. Where you get the voices.. every part has if you use full stack patches only 1 !! voice... That not even deserves the word multimode... Anyway.. long talk short sence... ALL GEAR IS BAD SOMEWHERE.. on some the gear is really a joke.. on some only depends on the user what he gets out of it even its maybe worse.. It all depends always on the combinstion of features.. unit workflow.. how it sounds... and finally what the user want to do with it... Keep on going hehe.. I have at least 20 or 30 more bad gear I could recommend you haha... more ?? : Roland VS 880 haha no own sounds.. Korg DW 8000.. Korg Poly 800... Korg 707... Roland MV 30.. and.... Moog Rogue and ARP Axxe... haha.. quite impossible maybe to find them..
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks for the suggestions!
@designator7402
@designator7402 3 года назад
I can see both sides here. On one hand this is clearly a highly usable, well sounding instrument that you can do a lot of things with. On the other none of the Elektron instruments work for me, for some reason. Just doesn't click with my meat calculator.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Lol, meat calculator. Nice one!
@Madrrrrrrrrrrr
@Madrrrrrrrrrrr 3 года назад
The only real nice thing is the parameter step programming. That's what all my old gear mostly misses. But he made me aware of some cheap newer stuff i should get though.
@stever3788
@stever3788 3 года назад
As controversial as Stanley Kubrick. WTG. I have never gotten into Elektron workflow, but couldn't debate that they're powerful. Just didn't want to scratch my head for months after getting their gear. But I'd rather use an Mc-50mk2 and an SP-X0X, any of em than this thing..
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
True, there are different schools of thought
@Breisler
@Breisler 3 года назад
Saw this and expected to hate it, but it's very well done all around. I'm really excited to get my Digitakt regardless of it's flaws. I love the Elektron workflow, despite its massive learning curve lol.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Highly recommended, one of my go to instruments!
@resofactor
@resofactor 3 года назад
I thought the Electribe II Sampler sucked, however, I still see the Electribe II Sampler better than Digitakt. Hey how about an Electribe II Sampler video?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Great idea, I'll take a closer look!
@FormatWarsBand
@FormatWarsBand 3 года назад
Very excited to see this make Bad Gear. I sold my MPC1000 for one of these and regretted the lost functionality....but really enjoyed the sound quality. It has a very finished, ready to release kind of sound. Respect. But I really wasn't having fun with it and needed to move on. Clicky buttons are also bad if you play in a band
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Yeah, these buttons are on all microphones when recording
@TheoVoidTV
@TheoVoidTV 3 года назад
Blasphemy!!!!! Although I will admit that they could have at least put a little more storage in there. Or maybe an sd card But I think part of Elektrons philosophy is limitations. I have a computer and DAW if I want endless options. The limitations force me to make the absolute most out of every sample. Elektron gear also taught me that A LOT can be done with just envelopes,velocity and lfo's. It's actually pretty amazing! In our modern world of DAWS and ENDLESS options it's easy to become overwhelmed and completely overlook the smaller, more subtle details of designing sounds. In Ableton, for instance, you'd probably be more likely to take a sample and throw a bunch of effects on it, one after the other w/o even realizing that you can do so much just using the ADSR envelope and other basic sampler settings. I instantly clicked with the Elektron workflow. I guess some people don't and that's understandable. All that said, after trying the Digitakt I quickly acquired the Digitone and the Octatrack too ! So I'm sure part of the reason for the limitations is to incentivize buying the more expensive boxes with more features. Either way, Elektron totally revolutionized my music making process !!!!! Awesome videos . Keep it up !!!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks! Same here! My DAWless approach was profoundly changed by Elektron
@Individual_two
@Individual_two 3 года назад
This has been a great episode! The "Eyes Wide Shut" clip. The subject, which is the controversial, Elektron Digitakt. The demonstration that shows that this thing sounds bad-ass. Sure, you have to commit to learning how to operate this magic machine, but that is part of the fun. I don't have one of my own yet, but it is just a matter of time and someone will be needing quick cash on Reverb to get me ordering...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@vprice509
@vprice509 3 года назад
Learning to operate the Digitakt is not part of the fun.
@ryanhom3006
@ryanhom3006 2 года назад
@@vprice509 right? At least it's not as bad as the octa
@theuntouchables808
@theuntouchables808 3 года назад
I have to agree . the Digitakt disappoint in many places ... The FXs are good but always the same ... and that Elektron LIMITATION to 8Ch is SOOOOOOooo annoying it's just not enough imo . A lot of people talk about "the Elektron way" when describing a workflow but really it means you have to buy more gear cause we limited your Polyphony . Elektron should go back to the Drawing board and check out the great gears they made in the past like the Machinedrum with 16CH .
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
These guys stick to their concepts no matter what. I admire that (although there are some things about the DT I criticise)
@scowlsmcjowls2626
@scowlsmcjowls2626 3 года назад
Wow brave
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Danger Zone!!!
@Axl_Pose
@Axl_Pose 3 года назад
Haha Gaz Williams. I'm actually considering one of these. Is it really a dust magnet?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I had to clean it at least every 5 minutes during the shots and it was a mission impossible ;)
@Axl_Pose
@Axl_Pose 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz that blows! I have a Panorama P1 and it is like some kind of USB powered black hole, sucking in every dead, discarded skin cell you never knew existed.
@jeremyjohnson7676
@jeremyjohnson7676 3 года назад
For me, Elektron is best compared to Lacoste. You pay 70% because of the name and the remaining 30% hasn't really been worth it in the end when compared to the competition. Elektron is generally completely overpriced and it is obvious that maximum profit is the intention of the manufacturer. I bought the Analog HEAT, for example, because I was very taken with the possibilities. Somehow everything sounded very digital and not at all "warm" or analog as I know it from real analog devices. The Heat tries to fake "analog warmth" with various EQ settings, but the signal is not really "heated". It doesn't even emulate real circuitry. So I returned it and got the OTO Boum instead, which absolutely thrilled me from the first second! It cost me $499, so it's not cheap either, but compared to Elektron, it's worth every penny.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Living is expensive in Sweden;)
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 3 года назад
I love that comparison. LOL is Behringer Fruit of the Loom then? :D
@johanrehbein8611
@johanrehbein8611 3 года назад
Speaking of self contained production gear... How about the Roland MC 909 Groovebox? It’s a pain to program
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Saw one of these yesterday for € 1200 🤑
@RayTheProducer
@RayTheProducer 3 года назад
Enjoyable as usual. And of course, Pilz can make an old Nokia sound like an Access Virus. Crazy talent. Thank you for doing this. Now...the Digitakt. I bought it in 2018, with a lot of love and excitement in my heart. It was finally going to be my 'go anywhere, ditch the laptop, MY sampler'. Nope. Couldn't get into it. Could barely get it to make a sound. And I've been making electronic music for over two decades. Watched some videos, read the manual, decided to just dive into it, and nothing. At some point, the Digitakt started to piss me off. Sort of like a malcontented ex: no matter how much attention you pay her/him, it's never enough. Eventually, I returned it to the retailer, even though it actually cost me shipping. Boo. I've since thought about getting it again, but each time I look lovingly at my all software studio, my Akai APC 40 MKII and my classic Roland A-49 controller, and think: oh Digitakt, there is no room for you here. Sad, because the demo tune at 6:05 is a thing of beauty. Excellent video.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@LordoftheBadgers
@LordoftheBadgers 2 года назад
I'll only send hatemail once you do the Synthstrom Deluge (you should ha ha); a machine that frustrates and inspires me in all the right ways! I have a digitone too... NEARLY went for a takt, but got sidetracked by the Deluge I saw secondhand....
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Great suggestion, thanks!
@VRMS_VRMS_VRMS
@VRMS_VRMS_VRMS 3 года назад
OOFTA. Yep... Digitakt is what revived my enjoyment of doing music at all after a long, deep, dark DAW-hole.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
It was quite liberating for me, too
@ralphhayward4713
@ralphhayward4713 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz endless source of inspiration worth every penny!
@ralphhayward4713
@ralphhayward4713 3 года назад
went from renoise...then found they have many similarities
@ralphhayward4713
@ralphhayward4713 3 года назад
now i use takt techniques in renoise sampler and LFOs
@starsunderer
@starsunderer Год назад
Not a fan of the workflow, wish it could have shortcuts on an ipad or something. Seems clunky to get a couple changes out of a track, i feel like you should be able to do a couple changes in quick order. How about assignable midi faders or mute buttons? But in the end it sounds amazing and can do alot, truly impressed when I see someone competent in it. I'd like to know what could it be paired with in improve workflow. An octatrack? Samplers? Love your quick upfront opinions on gear, in 10 min or less lol.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Год назад
Definitely works great with a couple of synths to taste (Waldorf Rocket & Blofeld are favs here)
@Crabby303
@Crabby303 3 года назад
Nice vid, thanks - kind of tempted to buy one now! Here's one for a future vid, perhaps: MPC5000...it promises sooo much on paper and yet....plenty of complaints online about it: poorly written/unfinished OS, software bugs, terrible storage logic, random midi glitches, and lots more! Although if you obtain one for the show it will of course work perfectly! ;)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Great input, I'll do some research!
@earlgrayman982
@earlgrayman982 3 года назад
I replaced the digitakt with a 10 year old MacBook Pro running FXPansion's Geist and a cheap used midi controller. Total cost....$140. (to be fair I already had a Geist license so I didn't calculate that into the price) Suck on that Elektron.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Now I'm triggered ;)
@NelGabriel
@NelGabriel 3 года назад
Still waiting for the Electribe sampler 2
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
So much gear, so little time ;)
@187onasimp
@187onasimp 3 года назад
ASMR worthy buttons *click! Click CLICK* Clack! hahahah this guy is true gear comedian.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@kaustik185
@kaustik185 3 года назад
The level of spicy memes is at an all time high here
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@iThinkWeGotIt
@iThinkWeGotIt Год назад
Man , i love the Digitakt. Even more than MPC and I’ve had a few MPCs
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Год назад
It's one of my favs too!!!
@segfault-berlin
@segfault-berlin 3 года назад
Are you just gonna "bad gear" synths or is other equipment also a valid target, if so id love to see you attempt to make a multitrack minidisc recorder do something useful
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I started out with pro audio and guitar gear but it was the synths that stuck. I am actually happy about that as the synth crowd is much more chill
@vilaintrolltrollinsky8007
@vilaintrolltrollinsky8007 3 года назад
How many DJ tools can run in a raspberry pie 3 ? Don't know this kind of rave. Sound Jet Set and BCBG. I like the boombap on 5:05. It's a good start to make funky vaporwave music.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 3 года назад
EVERYTHING Elektron produced ever since has been insanely overpriced and understocked. Back in the early 2000s i wanted to save for an Electron Monomachine because i loved the variation of synth engines. But it was way too expensive for my very limited budget. And nowdays you cannot even really get one used. But i don't care anymore since i got myself an Arturia Microfreak which has all that i needed and it was insanely affordable. Sometimes all you need is a bit of patience. Even if it takes ca. 17 years.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I want that SIDstation! ;)
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz LOL viel Glück. :C Wer die hat, rückt die nicht mehr raus. Da isses schon billiger sich nen echten C64 gebraucht zu besorgen und dazu dieses MSIAH Modul.
@callumalston5755
@callumalston5755 3 года назад
I know it’s underpowered, but damn I do love my model samples, it’s actually a hell of a lot of fun and cost me about £235 here in the UK, I guess it just depends what you want from the gear...
@zeeninetynine
@zeeninetynine 2 года назад
There's a lot of gear that's way more expensive. For the scope and quality each Elektron machine provides, I think the price is very reasonable.
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