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Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Korg Electribe 2. Is this latest member of the iconic groovebox family a step backwards compared to its older siblings?
Thanks to Klangfarbe for providing me with this unit:
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@0b11000100
@0b11000100 3 года назад
I figured it out! The real purpose of this channel is not to shame manufacturers of bad gear (although it helps, and probably feels good), it's to shame bad producers who blame their bad gear for their own musical shortcomings. You prove that you can make good music with any kind of gear. Thank you.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Not trying to shame anyone. Just having fun with some gear many people don't like;)
@noomnoom8469
@noomnoom8469 Год назад
@@AudioPilz Absolutely. A lot of flak comes from people not exploring a devices' range and just going but xyz device has these features. Everything has a limit but you can get something out of (nearly) everything.
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber Год назад
@@noomnoom8469 The Moog DFAM's a really good example of that combined with unintentionally inaccurate marketing. People bought the DFAM expecting a drum machine (partially their fault for not doing their research and partially Moog's for calling it the "Drummer From Another Mother" when it's really more of a "Drum From Another Mother"), got a percussion and bass focused dual-oscillator analog synth with an extremely old-school dial-based 8-step sequencer for their troubles, couldn't figure out how to use it as a drum machine, and then blamed the instrument for their mistakes and unfamiliarity with it.
@Genital.Wartzenegger
@Genital.Wartzenegger Год назад
My hardware journey started with this channel, i saw the tempest video and was so intrigued by the fact that people didn’t like programming it. Easily the best purchase I ever made and literally a breeze to work with. People are soft and have no patience to learn anything and I think I kind of prefer it that way. I think that’s why you hear so many sample pack loops and the same midi packs in so many of todays productions
@corteydmusic
@corteydmusic Год назад
lol.
@GabeMillerMusic
@GabeMillerMusic 3 года назад
I've gotten a surprising amount of mileage out of mine as a production tool, once I embraced its limitations and started exporting the tracks as wav files to finish songs. It's a weird mix of old school and modern and I think it's got its cult following because of that.
@TechTronix01
@TechTronix01 3 года назад
I actually think the sampler version of this "e2s" represents more than both the rythm and tracks at this point. Im using the circuit to record midi in. having both is a real touch of old and new
@Chasing_Thoughts
@Chasing_Thoughts 3 года назад
I use mine everyday. It’s the main brain of my setup.
@DarkTapes
@DarkTapes 3 года назад
Yeah, I think it does have a bit of a cult following! It's a really unique piece. Maybe this is like when Coke released New-Coke. Perhaps they should've called it something else and made it it's own thing. I love mine regardless, I've made some of my best songs with it.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
You might be right here!
@summerlaverdure
@summerlaverdure 3 года назад
this is the voice i wanted to hear on this, Groovebox Gabe knows his boxes
@iSapien1956672
@iSapien1956672 3 года назад
I can’t wait for the release of “Bad Gear: The Album”
@EverettVinzant
@EverettVinzant 3 года назад
Bad gear: The lawn dart years
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
So do I😅
@kcosminhz7988
@kcosminhz7988 3 года назад
been saying that too. put it on vinyl :P
@AllHailTheNoise
@AllHailTheNoise 3 года назад
@@kcosminhz7988 Id buy it, *hint hint nudge nudge*
@haolekoa737
@haolekoa737 3 года назад
Needs to happen, comeplete with genre definitions...
@williamolsen20
@williamolsen20 3 года назад
I had an ER-1, and I have to admit I loves the noise you could make with it.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Big ER-1 fan here!
@geofff6671
@geofff6671 3 года назад
Pro tip: Each pad has a shift function. Get a label printer and print them out. It will save heaps of menu diving and make it much faster to work with. I don’t know what Korg was thinking by not labelling them.
@johnchesters81
@johnchesters81 3 года назад
I think Korg didn’t label them because the shift shortcuts came along in an update, along with the undo function. But I totally agree, should have had these features in from the start. Still, love my ES2.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
True! There are pretty nice overlays too!
@BenWard29
@BenWard29 3 года назад
Absolutely love your work- the hits just keep coming! Idea for upcoming video: “Bad Gear: The Eurorack Format: How It Stole My Kid’s College Fund and Made My Wife Divorce Me”. Seriously though, if you are ever up for doing Eurorack, the debate about how awesome/overrated/useless Make Noise MATHS is rages on. It’s a never-ending war of music snobbery.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Great idea, thanks!
@sawtooth808
@sawtooth808 3 года назад
Narrator (from How I Met Your Mother) Kids, do not get into Eurorack set ups.
@a.c.5813
@a.c.5813 3 года назад
My favorite bad gear low end so far, great bassline in this final track.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thank you!!!
@G_D_K
@G_D_K 3 года назад
It was my first synth, and while it has limitations, I still love it!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Powerful machine if you can work around its quirks
@djcactus
@djcactus 3 года назад
Aww I love my elwctribe 2. Especially using it live over when I'm DJing
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Nice, never used it in that application!
@lazarusmoment4682
@lazarusmoment4682 3 года назад
I use it like that too!!
@petert7807
@petert7807 3 года назад
Any videos of your live dj + elective hybrid sets guys?
@lazarusmoment4682
@lazarusmoment4682 3 года назад
@@petert7807 unfortunately no but there will be once i get a camera haha
@LouisSerieusement
@LouisSerieusement 3 года назад
Here in France, lot's of Free party's music are based on the electribes (we even have a genre called "tribe" which also exist in Italy but existed before the first electribe). However, I actually never saw one of the new type in those. Maybe the red (sampling) one could be useful tho ! But we already have the ESX which sounds better. To be honnest, I kinda hate korg for those new electribe (and I'm a korg guy) !
@lucag.lisickza425
@lucag.lisickza425 3 года назад
yeah on the old teknivals electribe was huge
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Always been a fan of these live jam based parties. Electribes are strong at these here in Austria too!
@milk_bath
@milk_bath 3 года назад
Why hate Korg for the new Electribe if you are happy with the older model? The new one doesn’t effect you.
@lucag.lisickza425
@lucag.lisickza425 3 года назад
i had the blue one
@Stadsjaap
@Stadsjaap 3 года назад
It's like they took a classic performance took and turned it into a mediocre and unplayable studio tool. I'm still trying to like mine, but it's not making it easy, man.
@M3urs
@M3urs 29 дней назад
6:09 aaaaand an other masterpiece !!! Wow😮
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 24 дня назад
Thank you so much!!!
@greygrey7096
@greygrey7096 3 года назад
I really like mine, the Moog filter sounds very nice but I bought it because of the battery. I love going outside and being able to jam in the park. Got it used for 200€, definitely worth it for me:)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Nice, filter models are great!
@banjoguyollie
@banjoguyollie 3 года назад
Love the tone of the channel and I've learned quite a bit on various hardwares I didn't know about (coming from the acoustic instruments world) . Used covid times to build myself a handy synth setup I can use and your fun videos have helped me quite a bit with some of my choices ... including some bad gear :)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Happy to hear that, thanks!
@sawssman965
@sawssman965 Год назад
What kinda set up you working with
@hardtakeoff
@hardtakeoff Год назад
This episode didn't have your typical breakneck speed of both humor and derision
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Год назад
Some days are better than others...
@conradtm
@conradtm 3 года назад
Really and truly hate how the sample version doesn’t have a dedicated “sample end” controller knob (as far as I can tell). If I’m remembering correctly, the “edit” knob can change the start point and make the sample reverse, but the only way to change the end point is to edit the AD envelope (which isn’t always the desired effect) or to menu dive. Why on earth they didn’t just give the start point knob a shift function, I’ll never know.
@conradtm
@conradtm 3 года назад
​I would actually otherwise like the workflow. It's REALLY fast and intuitive, especially for sketching out ideas on the go, but as someone who is a bit too obsessed with UX, it's an oversight that is both frustrating and baffling. It's so completely unavoidable as a stumbling point.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Wow, strange limitation!
@petert7807
@petert7807 3 года назад
Yes!!! The edit knob on the sampler is such a waste. Can't for the life of me find a use for it! IF the loops were relative to the start point, you could do some cool wavetable and granular stuff by modulating the edit knob. But the 100% to 0 (no sample playing?!?) Then back up to 100% reverse!?!! 🤷🏽‍♂️ Why for what... 🤦🏽‍♂️
@ardamusaoglu1322
@ardamusaoglu1322 3 года назад
Yaay been waitin for this, i have a sampler version loving it from the day one. Weird that i wanted to see it in bad gear episode :D
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Yeah, it definitely needed the Bad Gear treatment
@rodrigomacias
@rodrigomacias 3 года назад
I have the es2 and it's a love-hate relationship. Many features are awesome, but the UX is frustrating when diving into menus. I hope some "better gear" magician comes up with a pirate firmware update.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Yeah, I'm hoping for the shaman too!
@toonvank6165
@toonvank6165 3 года назад
I have the same experience. Often I get put off by some limitation, before curiosity seeps in and I find out about new functions or ways to use it. The sequencer really is pretty capable, if it weren't for the 4 bar limit and menu diving...
@durrcodurr
@durrcodurr 6 месяцев назад
I own an Electribe 2 Sample, but I didn't do much with it, until this weekend, when I tried to make some actual music with it (to see if I really do have to buy a competing product). With the default setup, you only have about 80 seconds of sampling time left, b/c the factory samples take up all of the memory (which is only 64 MiB). It's a tight squeeze even for just one song. Thankfully, back in the day, I visited the KORG forum and downloaded empty sample and pattern sets (the link might still be there). The empty samples load automatically from card during boot up, but the empty patterns have to be imported manually. After you've done that, the machine is essentially blank, and you have 5 minutes of mono or 2.5 minutes of stereo sampling time available. This is at least something you can work with. Also make sure you have the latest firmware, which is 2.02 (it adds a pattern chaining function, among other things). Before powering the unit off, make sure you EXPORT ALL SAMPLES, or any changes you made to the samples will be gone. An important function from the Parameter Guide manual is EXPORT AUDIO to stream a pattern in individual parts to a card as WAV or Ableton files, EXPORT P.SET AUDIO does the same to a pattern set, and EXPORT CHAIN AUDIO does the same to a chained list of patterns (making sure each file is exported only once). The device is slightly antiquated nowadays, but it still does have its uses, I guess.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 5 месяцев назад
👍👍👍
@soulazy058
@soulazy058 3 года назад
Last song is fire 🔥
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thank you!!!
@martinsp90
@martinsp90 3 года назад
I came for the gear reviews, i stayed for the memes scattered throughout the video.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@DoctorNemmo
@DoctorNemmo 3 года назад
Wow ! What a geat tune at the end !
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thank you!
@strayferal
@strayferal 3 года назад
"more of a production tool, than a live performance instrument" - the exact reason why i got mx1+tr8s+mc707 instead of Electribe2. The only thing is - my heart still bleeds of why I sold my ESX-1SD, but had no choice. Maybe will get my son a Volca Sample 2 after all, but I am all Roland now.
@petert7807
@petert7807 3 года назад
I actually prefer my E2S as a drum machine over my TR8S 😬, 16 velocity sensitive pads adds alot more dynamics and easier accessable parameters. I appreciate the send amounts to the fx on the tr8S and the reverb is a huge plus, but it's such a hastle to access all the settings. Admittedly the Roland sounds better, but for creativity electribe FTW!
@strayferal
@strayferal 3 года назад
@@petert7807 yep. This is why i also got mc707
@petert7807
@petert7807 3 года назад
I do mostly techno and even without reverb I can get a better sounding and faster rubble kick on the electribe 2 then the tr8S. Most the lfo's on the E2 reset at trigger so combine with a slow speed amp decay and you almost have a third envalope. 👍🏽
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Nice Roland setup!
@strayferal
@strayferal 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz thanks! Need to learn how to use mc707, but tr8s+mx1 is a dope and breeze to use.
@Nitronic99
@Nitronic99 2 года назад
I love my E2! Still use it all the time. It's a great little box to jam with.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Great polyphonic sequencer too!
@Nitronic99
@Nitronic99 2 года назад
That sequencer taught me so much about dawless electronic music production :)
@rorymerola9083
@rorymerola9083 3 года назад
I came for the title of the jam… I was not disappointed. 😄👏👏👏
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@jonpatchmodular
@jonpatchmodular 3 года назад
Hey, remember me? I'm the dude who defended the Drumbrute! I borrowed that from my friend, who also happens to own this here Volca Big. At 2:36 you triggered my PTSD, be careful man!! So many occasions trying to set up dark industrial ambient stuff, but then this electro wannabe starts BLASTING through our monitors... At least the Drumbrute didn't do that lmao. Actually we've had many good times, my man is amazing with his Gray Slate of Tekno, and it synced with my Volca Easel (2 modulars) and my Volca Sequence seamlessly... anything portable by Korg is a Volca now, fight me.
@jonpatchmodular
@jonpatchmodular 3 года назад
Oh oh and the external audio and batteries meant we could take it anywhere! I always missed some good sounding space on my VM's and we had trouble recording onto the phone with a weird adapter, but we still had fun in the end.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Agreed, you're safe with the Drumbrute;)
@jonpatchmodular
@jonpatchmodular 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz I usually don't comment such rambling walls of text but this time it was personal, man
@MichaalHell
@MichaalHell 3 года назад
There’s two used near where I live out for $150 and $180 and I actually seriously considered before watching this video and after I think I will pull the trigger
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Great as a drum machine for that price!
@shazzbutter
@shazzbutter Год назад
That last one... Like when The Onion introduced the Apple Wheel.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Год назад
👍
@markbucher50
@markbucher50 2 года назад
The most important part about this channel is the part where he still makes something awesome out of the shitty gear just to remind you that you gotta snap out of GAS mode and just make something inspired
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks!!! (...and then buy even more gear;)
@abrasionequation4632
@abrasionequation4632 3 года назад
I knew you would eventually do this one, very entertaining my friend.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@cassiomendes13
@cassiomendes13 3 года назад
One of my first pieces of gear was a blue E2 exactly like that. After watching your video I realized why I sold it so quickly.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Yup, not necessarily a keeper
@daemonelectricity
@daemonelectricity 3 месяца назад
At the time that I got it, (The E2, not the E2S) it seemed like a good deal for the 16 track sequencer and ability to run on AA batteries. It still wouldn't be a bad device to go to town on while embracing the limitations and then bring into Ableton. That said, my biggest disappointment was that it doesn't export MIDI, so you can't A/B your original loop against external hardware or soft synths to try to beat the sound of the original loop. However, it's not like it's rocket science recreating the MIDI data if it's worth the time to even go down that road.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 месяца назад
True that!!!
@Psyker1787
@Psyker1787 8 месяцев назад
I bought a brand new emx-1 and esx-1 just before they stopped making them.
@DowntownDigitalUK
@DowntownDigitalUK 3 года назад
Maybe a mini série on workstation keyboard, alesis Qs, Korg triton, Yams motifs...or the lovely Zoom, drum machines and samplers...or the EMU workstation romplers
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Great input, thanks!
@DowntownDigitalUK
@DowntownDigitalUK 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz Another category that really grinds my gear are the quickly no longer updated dedicated vst hardware controllers... Arturia spark, Korg plastic ms20, NI Kore and Uhe Diva... And some are real bad goods
@LukeLendrum
@LukeLendrum 3 года назад
I'm looking forward to the Moog Subharmonicon episode of Bad Gear
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Shots fired;)
@oofdah6738
@oofdah6738 2 года назад
Love my original gray E2 and reach for it often. I will say that it is very easy to under cook AND over cook compositions on it. It really shines when you can stretch the voices JUST to the point that everything is rich and clean but before it gets muddy and starts stealing random voices. A great affordable sound pallet that rewards patience.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Agreed!!!
@tomaszgiba
@tomaszgiba 3 года назад
Oh ..the "IWANNAKNOW" guy new release. Awesome
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
...it's ticking all the boxes;) Thanks!
@StephanS
@StephanS 3 года назад
You should review the Korg PSS60 - Good look finding even one!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Wow, didn't know that one. Had the PSS50 on the show, though
@mozzwigan88
@mozzwigan88 6 месяцев назад
Bro your absolutely awesome. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much!!!
@anthony_pr1033
@anthony_pr1033 3 года назад
Here in the eastern part of germany the are pretty popular especially within the "Tekk" scene. About 60% uses a Electribe 1/2 for making their patterns.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Yeah, same here. A lot of the free tekk parties are Electribe powered
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 2 года назад
I can't believe Electribe models are setup for left hand touchpad use ! SMH That's the best rave video clip I've ever seen you do 👍
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Thanks!
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 2 года назад
@@AudioPilz Thank you very much for responding to all my comments. But I don't want to take up so much of your time. Please feel free to just read them if you like or leave them for others to respond to. As a Ex video production guy I know how valuable your time is and how all consuming your work is. You just keep making your awesome videos and I'll keep watching and recommending them 👍 Thank you very much 😆
@tangentspace
@tangentspace 3 года назад
this was my dream episode!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thank you!!!
@ritualsoundsystem
@ritualsoundsystem 3 года назад
Before I hacked my E2 to be an E2S, played a few shows with it and an Elektron box. The shows went great. Full dance floor at a sold out club, with DJs asking how I got my kicks to hit so hard. Yeah, the presets are mad cheesy, and it’s limited in many ways, but it’s a capable machine when in the right hands. That said, the sampler version is better imo. Never went back, but mostly gets used now for holding analog drum samples from my A4 now.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Nice combination with the Elektron. How did the hacking go?
@jml19221
@jml19221 3 года назад
I like to watch this channel just to see how much of my gear shows up in here LOL. I owned one of these when it was cool to have it and I got to tell you that back in the day, this thing really was an inspirational tool. Limitations and all. The quality of the samples was passable for the price range. I think I wish I would’ve never sold it.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Bad Gear Bingo!!!
@kevinbirge2130
@kevinbirge2130 3 года назад
I had one. Loved it, but it was not a very sturdy machine. I learned a lot from using it. The drum samples were outstanding.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Yeah, punch for days!!!
@uuroncha99thevrmetaversene95
@uuroncha99thevrmetaversene95 3 года назад
The grey version of the eletribe 2 has been featured in the CW's Flash series at least 2 times as some kind of a scientific doo-dad, so take that as you might.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Yeah, I've just seen a screenshot! Thanks for posting!
@chiphopper
@chiphopper 3 года назад
You should check out some of Mistabishi's electribe 2 vids, he makes this thing SING like nobody else.
@ahteha8010
@ahteha8010 3 года назад
True
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Ah, I've seen him in the Sonic Lab vid
@DMStern
@DMStern 3 года назад
Is he still being racist?
@gamma_noize
@gamma_noize 3 года назад
Heya! I think i got another Bad Gear candidate for you. But it's kinda rare due to it's bad rep. The Alesis Fusion 6 HD or Fusion 8 HD. People hated its looks and its UI, but it's one of the best synths i own. Sadly the power supply died and i haven't found a replacement yet. The Fusion is a damn powerful synth and with the power comes the complexity and many say / said so. ;) I found it comparatively easy to use, but the one thing i couldn't figure out yet, even with a printed copy of the manual, is the sequencer... This thing is just too complex for me... The synth is 16 part multitimbral via MIDI, the sequencer adds another 16 parts! And with the audio inputs you can even record 8 tracks at once into the sequencer. As you seem to be able to tame even the wildest gear, i'd really be intrigued to see, what you can get out of this feature monster. If you want to get one, get a Fusion 6 HD. I have the 8 HD and it's a 30 kg monster. The weighted mechanic keyboard and the substantially larger metal case make it so damn heavy. I don't know, if they still can be found online, but if so, get the Hollow Sun soundpacks. Those presets are waaay better than the factory ones! I have them on my now dead Fusion. Sadly i lost the USB stick, on which i backed them up... Best wishes from Bavaria! :)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks for the suggestion! I had a chat with Gaz Williams about the Fusion. Seems to be an ideal candidate!
@padlockbeats151
@padlockbeats151 3 года назад
Love these vids.. I had the red esx back in the day, my first drum machine sampler before i went with mpcs. I'd love to see a flagship electribe from korg. The tech is there, workflow is awesome, in depth sampling with bit rate options, maybe a selectable analog filter like the rd-8 too, just the it has everything electribe... seems like a no brainer for me
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks! Yup, maybe they're working on something bigger...
@leafandmachine
@leafandmachine Год назад
I like how he gets his synths from a castle
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Год назад
It's an old gas tank;)
@moogdome2562
@moogdome2562 2 года назад
Oh dear. I must stop buying bad gear. I have three electribes still in their boxes. Used very little, and unloved. I must really have bad taste. Great show as usual. Danke.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Electribes gotta be played;) Thanks!
@ildafons
@ildafons 3 года назад
I Was thinking on buying one but changed my mind in favor of Elektrons. But still a big fan of Volcas!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Volca fan here! Especially the sample!
@TheOriginalEUrban
@TheOriginalEUrban 3 года назад
Electribe 2 Sampler+ MicroKorg+ FLstudio. That's my setup.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Nice!
@mattcero1
@mattcero1 Год назад
Nice video man! What would you say is the best, bang for the buck, used groove-box as of May 2023? Your thoughts are much appreciated sir. Thank you.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Год назад
Thanks!!! I really like Elektron Digitakt (which is more of a drum sampler but great for groovebox duties too)
@NeoLudditevisons
@NeoLudditevisons 3 года назад
Excellent! Not as brutal as i would have expected. I’ll say this after using the E2 synth ver for 5 years, it gets better and better over time. You can get some pretty unique sounds etc but it wont do it for you. For sure you have to use it with and other machine, in my case ESX2, from there you can do a hell of a lot. I’ll link a guy who totally rocks it with these 2 units only. Best thing thing about it is once you learn short cuts it becomes real quick to create interesting stuff with mod params…
@NeoLudditevisons
@NeoLudditevisons 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Xs8DXye09mc.html
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thank you!!!
@jaergenauder2942
@jaergenauder2942 Год назад
no Bad Gear. its weird for some Genres but in Tekno/Tribe/Rave (160-190BPM) a GeniusWare . Brutal Hard and Clear Music
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Год назад
Ideal for these genres!
@スラージョそのあまい
@スラージョそのあまい 3 года назад
5 years ago i sold my analog rytm for the sample edition thinking it’d cover the same bases i needed for less than half the price… ha.. worst choice i’ve ever made. thing had this weird issue when patterns repeated where it seemed to never keep on the clock. like it’d glich a split second while repeating the pattern so it sounded pretty off
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I had some clock issues too but only when saving patches
@lexa.v2
@lexa.v2 3 года назад
thankfully the weird gap between pattern loops was one of the first firmware fixes
@matthewgaines10
@matthewgaines10 3 года назад
Cynical. Sarcastic. Critical. Ingenious. Another Bad Gear. Building a brand from a special enthusiasm of music and gear. Thanks for journey.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@AABattery
@AABattery 3 года назад
My favorite "feature" was when Korg overwrote the shortcut for erasing characters in the naming menu with the useless undo function. yay
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
We call it innovation;)
@felixvids7238
@felixvids7238 3 года назад
Yeah, what the hell was that about? All my patterns are named something like "SomethPattern"
@Nik.leonard
@Nik.leonard 3 года назад
Let's hope that Roland didn't take notes of this and ends adding the much requested undo function to the zen-grooveboxes deleting something "useless".
@DrGrooveBeat
@DrGrooveBeat 3 года назад
4 colours the sampler is also available in black.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Got the gray-ish black in the episode. Is there a fourth color?
@DrGrooveBeat
@DrGrooveBeat 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz yes first was gray synth then black sampler then blue synth and red sampler.
@glenesis
@glenesis 3 года назад
Hi everyone! Happy Friday! I've been hoping someone I trust would get hands-on this. I've been considering whether to buy one. I haven't heard any heavy, aggressive sounds out of this box. I think it's too gentle for my taste. Sampling has always been a strong suit of the Electribe series. I'd love to see what you think of the Liverwurst version, and whether that version is full of bologna 😜 Have a great week, brother! Bad Gear Forever!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Bad Gear 4 life! The built-in FX are super nice and offer pretty nasty distortion and bit crushing. There are more aggressive choices tho
@princeofdenmark9142
@princeofdenmark9142 3 года назад
"Sound design?" - Set the knob to dubstep
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Needs a Deadmau5 knob too;)
@dvnc-music
@dvnc-music Год назад
I have a question. I have a jx08. Im planning to buy an electribe to record from my jx08 and loop them in multiple layers. Is it okay to use this gear for this purpose?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz Год назад
Only if you have the sampling version and I don't know how well it works in a looping setup
@norlesh
@norlesh 3 года назад
@1:58 "Available in two flavors and three colors" ... there are four colors - blue is re-release of the grey electribe, while red is re-release of the black electribe-sampler [see ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L5vYGmLFeAU.html for explanation of there differences"; apparently the re-releases just made improvements in the pads but use the same firmware as the updated originals]
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks for the clarification. I assumed the gray and black model to be the same (as some sources indicated)
@MrChillacher
@MrChillacher 3 года назад
i think everybody who had the e2 used that "hey" sample at least once :D
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Like the Wilhelm Scream of electronic music;)
@JJohnkkttran
@JJohnkkttran 3 года назад
Great video! I got the sample version of this thing to replace my mc-505 that had sadly faded away and... I just hated it. What's worse is it took me forever to find anyone to buy it from me! I think you described it here really well. It's tough to use as a live midi groovebox, the internal sounds are impossible to make anything but some mid 2010s pop with, and it really just existed as a drum machine to me. I dug it for sequencing like that, but found the menu diving for my loaded samples to be more frustrating than my extremely user unfriendly Ensoniq EPS. I should have just paid a bit more for a Digitakt, as the fact that the Electribe is paraphonic makes it a little useless. might as well have mono samples and a better interface.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks! I love the Takt but polyphony is not one of its strengths;)
@SirRigbyBaconKaiser
@SirRigbyBaconKaiser 3 года назад
28 Page menu? That's like half of the pages of what menus would used! What a super streamlined machine!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I liked the menu matrix of the old electribes tbh
@SirRigbyBaconKaiser
@SirRigbyBaconKaiser 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz I mean half the pages of what Roland would of used. D'oh!
@davidcogan9936
@davidcogan9936 3 года назад
5:34 I like the bass..
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@rrtramel
@rrtramel 3 года назад
Teehehehe, gear I own, sort of, I own the sample
@sodiumsovereign
@sodiumsovereign 3 года назад
I've got the Electribe Sampler 2 as well, while it's a bit clunky I love it for sound design!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I've yet to try this one!
@EverettVinzant
@EverettVinzant 3 года назад
The problem I have is that the Sample owns me… and like repeatedly. I try kickin’ it old school, and it sounds preschool.
@YUEDINA
@YUEDINA 3 года назад
Where do i get the sample update for the non sample version
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Not exactly an update, there are some hacks for installing the S firmware which is readily available on the Korg webpage
@soundpalette2438
@soundpalette2438 3 года назад
I like the thin synth. Good for like new order type of basic sounds. Still haven't found another all in one box that holds a candle to it on the market
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
It certainly works great in many setups
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 3 года назад
Loving your work man. A week is a long wait for your vids. I'm currently trying to get my head around the Polybrute I just bought. Also, would getting a Korg R3 tattooed on my body be a tad excessive?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks! Maybe get a Volca tat?;)
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz god no, far too trashy.
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 3 года назад
Oh no, its time to destroy the Electribe 2! I own it, love it and hate it. I have the Sample 2 but these two are very similar. I wish Korg would develop this more. They need to release a new OS NOW, or release the SDK so that the Pajens of the world can take over! The software is buggy and limited, 24 voices are reduced to virtually nothing, sometimes there does not seem to be a reason! Its true ITS SO STUPID to have mini MIDI jacks on a full sized unit like this! Korg need to get their act together, or just give up and release a new generation. Why not learn a few things from the Akai MPC or Elektron Digitakt? Even the Korg Volcas are more stable, and the Volca Sample 2 has sample transfer that works and a good, Korg PC program.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Agreed! It certainly is a love/hate thing!
@EspenFrafalne
@EspenFrafalne 2 года назад
I got both of them, and used to love/hate them, but now i just love it for what it is - which is a pretty compact and portable "all in one/two" solution, at a reasonable price. I really enjoy using them (especially the synth version), and wouldnt change them for any other product in this price range =) Really hope they would develop it some more though, and put the synth and sampler in one unit, and add some more effects. There should also be at least 1 or 2 more modifiers, as well as 1 or 2 more local/insert effects. It would also really benefit from having 3 or 4 knobs to control the different effect parameters - ideally placed directly under the screen, so it can show what parameters you control with each knob..! And a "randomize notes" function would also be really nice. And last but definitely not least; a better step editor - where both notes and automations can be edited easily. I would have paid 2 or 3 times its current price to get such a machine.
@MusicianParadise
@MusicianParadise 3 года назад
Great video. Mista Bishi managed to rule this device like no one else, or, most probably, Korg made this electribe just for Mista Bishi to enjoy...
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks! Listened to an entire Mista Bishi set yesterday. Great stuff!!!
@underduckbro
@underduckbro 3 года назад
Next month you’ll say an original 808 is the bad gear of the month
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Should I?;)
@LeoMrz
@LeoMrz Месяц назад
thanks, just two minutes into the video helped me decide it'd be a bad buy
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 27 дней назад
Always a pleasure;)
@pestorer
@pestorer 3 года назад
et-best tool ever pure techno beast.thank u.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@Stoney3K
@Stoney3K 3 года назад
If you are taking a crack at brand new units, the Behringer Deepmind 12 might be worth reviewing.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Great suggestion, thanks!
@andreylozhkin2086
@andreylozhkin2086 3 года назад
It is not a rumor, I had this unit years ago and did flip the firmware to a sampler version and back
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Good to know, thanks!
@fakshen1973
@fakshen1973 3 года назад
Considering that Akai is making MPC models well into the sub $1000US price range, I would think that the Korg would have a very bracketed market to appeal to. I'm not saying that the MPC is this or that... but feature-wise I'd hold out for the lowest tier MPC.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Not so sure about that. The MPC500 can be quite tedious to use
@CyHumphreysWxm
@CyHumphreysWxm 3 года назад
There are parts of my ES2 that deeply annoy me in comparison to the esx but it absolutely wipes the floor with your Digitakt
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Mmmmh, let's get the floor wiping business started;)
@latontolog
@latontolog 3 года назад
This is the hottest take I've seen all day, and I read a lot of Cat Person stuff today
@rorz999
@rorz999 2 года назад
Atomic take
@JohnBillington
@JohnBillington 3 года назад
Your videos are amazing! Hilarious.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks!
@railinly610
@railinly610 2 года назад
I bought one when first released and then I got rid of it very soon after. Before that I owned the emx1 & esx1 which I believe are the best interfaced of all electribes. I remember feeling like korg had deserted an established community. The e2 is better for hands on live I guess.
@telumatramenti7250
@telumatramenti7250 2 года назад
It's awesome for live performances, despite what the guy said...
@christopheronald
@christopheronald 3 года назад
curious if you can hit multiple pads at once to pick multiple notes and arp them with the touchpad like the older electribe i have. great feature. really sucks that it does not have a song mode like the older models. dealbreaker right there for me.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Couldn't get anything meaningful out of the non-arp gater FX
@glowinggrenade
@glowinggrenade 3 года назад
When are you gonna cover the Beat Thang
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
As soon as I can get hold of one;)
@gelatinous6915
@gelatinous6915 3 года назад
I'd love to see the Novation Mininova or original Novation Circuit. Quite a lot of hate on both of those (particularly the OG Circuit, which was recieved poorly on release)
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Great input, thanks!
@TomViolence89
@TomViolence89 3 года назад
Tech house? No that's not tech house. Then the vocal sample comes out. Yeah, that's definetly tech house!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
That sums up the genre VERY nicely;)
@nintenalex
@nintenalex 3 года назад
I think bad is a bit of a stretch, As far as professional gear goes its a bit lacking but is really good for someone new to dawless music making. Once your used to its quirks its easy to make some cool sounding stuff that doesn't suffer just because its digital. I intend to re-buy it when i can along with the Reface DX, the two were my starting synths along with a Blofeld.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Certainly worked great with the Blofeld for me!
@jonnie2bad
@jonnie2bad 3 года назад
mine is for sale if you are interested HAHAHA
@TimJacksonOriginal
@TimJacksonOriginal 3 года назад
Does it have cowbell?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Yup, best thing about it
@fisk0
@fisk0 3 года назад
I have the sampler model, the voice limit is pretty frustrating, and the poor MIDI implementation and lack of outputs (the previous Electribes had both stereo and assignable outs, these only have regular stereo outs) limits its usability a lot, but it's still useful as a sampler. I do miss some of the filter options from the synth version, but I guess I'm not really missing out all that much when it comes to the actual synth engine. Given the limited outputs I can't really use it as a drum machine, but it does a good job complementing my EMX-1 as a polyphonic sequencer. Sometimes it gets really noisy for no discernable reason though, it can just start letting out a loud whining sound for no apparent reason, which can be really frustrating when you're trying to record.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I've heard about the noise issues. Tried to replicate it but it didn't happen here
@fisk0
@fisk0 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz yeah, it's very rare for me too, only happened a handful of times over the years I've had it, but it's really annoying when it happens and I still have no idea of what triggers it, as my setup hasn't really changed all that much over the years, and it definitely didn't change day by day from when it was working fine to suddenly being noisy.
@slowbro1337
@slowbro1337 3 года назад
I won't lie, I would have been happier if it was Just the Electribe EMX 1 with modern ports and memory options
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Agreed!
@MathHammer
@MathHammer 3 года назад
It has a 28 page menu! Yowza.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Always fun;)
@brokemanmusic2587
@brokemanmusic2587 2 года назад
The machine is not bad now for me I wish they would have made it a basic synthesizer with the sequence , they can keep the drums but I am interested in the groove box
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 2 года назад
Maybe get one of the older Electribes?
@Catstheguy
@Catstheguy 3 года назад
You need the discrete digital circuitry of the genre knob otherwise its virtual virtual analog
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
InceptionTribe!!!
@alimrahardian109
@alimrahardian109 3 года назад
used to own this guy when i'm just a newbie in synth and electronic music space, only to become a dust colleting machine. hear the previous version are better. sold it and get the emx1 for less than 200. after a minor fix on the pads, now it become the center of my setup. but man, now i kinda get the feeling how bad other "bad gear" in this channel are.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
The dust collection feature is unparalleled;)
@strelokknoize
@strelokknoize 3 года назад
Well, over here in Germany the ol' MX/SX in OK[ish] condition are way more pricey than a brandnew E2/E2S - even the really old ones with Smart Media slots. And dang, I know why.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Same here!
@aceyriot
@aceyriot 3 года назад
Between roland's d-beams and korgs wobbly atari 7800 style thumbsticks, let me just say I'm so glad korg got over that horrible habit of putting kaoss pads in their products..... Excuse me? Sorry, what is a "modwave" ?
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I assume the waveform of the LFO
@Rompler_Rocco
@Rompler_Rocco 3 года назад
Unbeliewably hilarious Nick Batt sample 🤣
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
That one had me rolling too😂😂😂
@Nik.leonard
@Nik.leonard 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz Mistabishi got his "Akai Dan" moment on that video.
@DrGrooveBeat
@DrGrooveBeat 3 года назад
@@Nik.leonard haven’t seen akai Dan for a while...
@lairdkilbarchan
@lairdkilbarchan 3 года назад
Thanks for systematically going through all my equipment. Would it help if I sent you a list of my entire studio gear to get this over and done with? 🙄
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
It's nothing personal;)
@lairdkilbarchan
@lairdkilbarchan 3 года назад
@@AudioPilz Actually, thinking about it, there's a couple of things I got AFTER seeing them your show. 😄👍
@vertigev
@vertigev 3 года назад
Lolol
@terminalglimmer
@terminalglimmer 3 года назад
Ngl, I literally have: - Korg Electribe 2 - M Audio Venom - Roland MC303 (world's best demo song jk) - An 80s Roland rompler This show was practically made for me too hahaha. It's just super fun seeing people like Florian try to bring the good out of janky gear.
@markruiz7333
@markruiz7333 3 года назад
I feel you paid. Same here. I got some Bad Gear.
@haolekoa737
@haolekoa737 3 года назад
I love my E2... I don't own a computer, so it is the centerpiece of my rig. Bought it used for $300, never once regretted it. The synth section is capable of some great sounds if you use it right. Using the Overdrive insert effect goes a long way towards beefing up the synth sounds. Each of the 16 parts is on its own midi channel (part 1 = ch1, etc), which is useful when live playing it with my Keystep. I use the gate arp all the time; in combination with the touch scale function it makes for killer improvised leads. I'm fine with all the hate it gets, just means it's possible to find them cheap. Haters can hate all they like, I'll take mine with me to my grave! Great video as always, Bad Gear is one of my favorite youtube shows. Keep it up!
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
Thanks! I kept reaching for the overdrive a lot too!
@travistouchdown1812
@travistouchdown1812 3 года назад
Same! I use a computer all day so wanted a dawless setup for song creation and jamming. The E2S is the brains which controls my small collection of hardware synths (Behringer model D, Neutron, Volca FM). It's really fun and I'm always figuring out new performance tricks and new sounds. I have the sample version, so never had a complaint about internal sample selection :)
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 2 года назад
The 2 Groove pages are a readily deployable weapon, and the most musically potent aspect of the entire box
@heavysystemsinc.
@heavysystemsinc. 3 года назад
As an ESX aficionado, I skipped on the Electribe 2 literally because of the shortened pattern length. I don't think a successor should ever scale back any feature. Remove/combine feature? Cool, but never scale back.
@AudioPilz
@AudioPilz 3 года назад
I wholeheartedly agree!
@agentvx8320
@agentvx8320 3 года назад
It baffles me that manufacturers limit pattern length and sequencer capabilities in the modern day. It's got to be about the most trivial feature to implement in a modern synth. The amount of memory it takes to store hours and hours of MIDI sequence data is physically tiny and is a trivial expense next to even the potentiometers and encoders on a device like this. Why?
@apoplexiamusic
@apoplexiamusic 3 года назад
@@agentvx8320 because they hate their die hard customers?
@apoplexiamusic
@apoplexiamusic 3 года назад
I was on the fence about it for a long time, primarily because of the shortened pattern length. I ultimately passed
@distantcomets
@distantcomets 3 года назад
@@agentvx8320 Agree! and it's not just tiny starter boxes like the volca series either - I have a Pioneer Toraiz SP-16 I got used. Great sampler, amazing sound, but the patterns are limited to 4 bars. This thing was $1500 new, and Pioneer licensed a filter from Dave Smith (Sequential) but the sequencer only does 4 bar patterns??? Why!!!???
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