Does the JX08 have the Polysynth patch that the JX8P has ? It sounds exactly like this intro ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R2f8KvURNw8.html
@@Venatt1 uuuuh whatever that is, it does NOT sound good to my ears. Even the mix of it is flat, voice sounds slightly rushed and again flat, drums dry and flat. The song needs a can or two of red bull and some enthusiasm. Sonic signature of an empty 80's gym hall.
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@@Broyale26 Hahaha! On a more serious note, though, it's so true. I remember my childhood house looking huge to me when I was a kid. There were these pillars in front, and I thought they were like giant. I saw it once years after we moved out and was like "Oh, wow," heh (looked *so* much smaller)
It’s nice in many ways: voices, bi-timbral, fx, aux input, power options, clock options, filter, sequencer is quite powerful. The best portable synth for me. And it it’s good for acid sounds too!
The chorus sold me on this, it sounds MASSIVE with the 2nd button. I wanted a poly synth with hands on control within a modest budget and I didn't care if it sounded like the original as I wanted to make music.
Same here. I wanted a backpack friendly real synth. With the Boutique keyboard it's lovely for that purpose. I don't know anything about the original thing
It seems like US retailers have this on sale for $349 right now. I'm kind of feeling it at that price. You're tempting me into making another Bad Gear decision once again, Florian!
I mean, it sounds fantastic. JX8P was always the "favorite child" of my Roland collection, so I don't expect it will be a satisfying recreation for me, but... At the end of the day, it still sounds great. They maybe should have just sold it as it's own thing, though...?
Does the JX08 have the Polysynth patch that the JX8P has ? It sounds exactly like this intro ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R2f8KvURNw8.html
A note regarding the noisy USB. If you are in the UK, use an official Apple iPhone or iPad charger to power it. They have a proper Earth connection which sorts out the USB noise (not sure if this applies to other country’s Apple chargers). This works on all the Boutiques. Obviously no good if you are connecting to a PC but useful if you are using them as a standalone synth.
apparently Rolands business model involves not making as much money as they could. if they didnt want to "chase ghosts" they wouldnt manufacture digital clones of analog synths.
@@AudioPilz I wish both behringer and roland would stop with the clone thing, and just try to develop really interesting instruments with innovative features, technology, and good sounds... its possible to take a cheap mixer, and feed it back into itself to turn it into a sort of 'oscillator'... maybe someone could design a synth based on that concept...
I think you're right regarding the boutique range. Roland should do more to emphasise that these are not a reissue of the old synths but a budget synth made with influence from the classic ones. This would make a lot more sense and maybe upset less people, and let them know more accurately what they are getting. Now if people want a true remake, there's a guy called Uli who seems like he's really into doing that.
Wow, that was suprisingly... bassy! After all the bashing JX-08 got after the release (which OFC most came from comparing it to JX-8P) looks like you're one of the few to stand up for it, Florian. Great episode!
Right on! These are going for 350 in the US now, which seems eminently reasonable. I care less that it doesn't sound like JX-8P and more that it has a lot to recommend it in its own right. I may pick one up here before too long.
I genuinely hate this thing. The boxes should all be burned for having a picture of a JX-8P on them. Zen Core shouldn't be doing bad impressions of other synths, when ACB exists. Why don't we have a synth designed PURELY for the full Zen Core engine, instead of constantly compromised interfaces to it like the Jupiter X/Juno X? ABM templates should have been an open end user system to let sound designers sculpt the way the controls behave in their patches. Come on Roland it's 2023, you should be able to spin up a single BMC chip to use in everything that has more than 4 ARM cores these days.
This Boutique sounds less like the original than any other. Sonically I like it better than the 8P, but the UI and other form factor-related tradeoffs are the real dealbreaker for me.
there is reason why this engine can easily handle relatively big polyphony … they made compromises on sound .. the sound is a bit generic and i would say literally all synths based on this engine sounds like same synth with just different hw interface - to my taste too generic, without own character … definitely preffering their older engine based on emulating analog circuits - those models are sounding really unique each one … anyway thanks for review !
Ok this is actually a decent piece of gear, well done on the 80's nostalgia remake there Florian, you really hit it off with the second tune. I wanted to say something funny as usual, but I got a new job and my mind is toast.
I had a JX-08 for a little over a year, and honestly it sounds really great for what it is! With independent effects on both voices and the ability for each channel to be independently controlled by midi, you have a pretty powerful two voice module for a small hardware set-up. That being said, I found myself using the classic patches more than anything else and eventually sold it and bought a real JX-8P and love that even more 🙂.
I have a JX-8P, but really like the JX-08. Its not exactly the same, but its like a new member of the family. The tone of the JX-8P is better, richer when playing chords IMO, but I've heard some great sounds out of the JX-08. Its bitimberal, 20 note polyphonic and has good built in FX.
Nice episode once again! Got my JX-08 for almost a year now and I'm still loving it. Bought it mainly because of its ultrafat bass sounds and they never disappoint and always sit great in the mix. (as perfectly demonstated in your jams!) Personally I dont care if it sounds exactly like a JX-8P. For my taste, it delivers this authentic 80s punch and thanks to several very good creamy choruses (chorae ??? :-) and a nice filter it's a great choice for every synthwave production. Luckily the polyphony of 20 voices and 1cm longer faders make it way more usable than other boutiques.
I love these videos. I have to pause on the memes because I can't read that fast. I think I'm kind of slow. They don't call me son because I'm so bright. Thanks for doing these. Very educational. You're a pretty talented musician too.
ABM/Zen sounds alright, but ACB genuinely sounds better, and for these kinds of "bread and butter" sounds, I don't know why anyone would pick up a JX-08 instead of an MC-101 which sounds the same but is so much more capable (despite not having anything close to 1:1 knobs), and open since it can load all the Zenology sounds. I think the JX08 is alright regardless, a decent generic sound canvas for the modern age, but yeah, decidedly not an actual JX-8P emulation where some of the other boutiques are more faithful. Still, too expensive for what it is and the competition is just better. Not that they'll do it, but if only Roland would just open up the Zen Beats synth engine a bit.
Doesn’t sound much like a JX-8P, which itself wasn’t that great of a synth. Always found the JX-3P to have a better sound. The only one of these Roland boutiques I like is the JD-08.
I quite like this one for quick fun. I usually set up something repetitive on one part and then go a little crazy with the other part. It find it very performative all by itself. The bass sounds in your tracks hit really nicely.
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I’m just gonna say it: this sounds pretty good and it’s the best “Roland 80s DCO synth recreation” in the boutique line. Now I just hope everyone disagrees and the prices plummet so I can get one for dirt cheap.
As cool as Roland makes their stuff look, Bad Gear channel removed the curtain once again so that we can see what's up. This may not be bad, but it would be bad for my wallet. Thank you once again sir for saving me repackaging fees on return shipment.
Roland taking a beating in this one! But quite frankly they did it to themselves 🤣 Also that chord progression at 5:06 gives me the feels so much. Reminds me of something that Captain would have used in Beyond Music or Space Debris (mods)
Here is some ideas for next review as most of the synths you review are useless toys ;) 1. Access Virus KC 2. Access Virus TI 3. Novation Nova 2 4. Novation Supernova 2 5. Roland mc909 6. Yamaha rs7000
Fantastic verdict. I feel most of the complaints come from it's comparison to the original. If you look at the JX-08 as something different completely you have maybe one of the best portable polysynths on the market imo.
I'm swayed. At first I was like "why did Roland leave out some key features of the Jx-8p?" and then I went and played my JX-3p and heard those ever slow digital envelopes. Well said here, this machine definitely wouldn't get as much hate if it wasn't marketed as an 8P.
Florian can make almost anything sound good. Very entertaining but it probably means the best way to know if I'll like it is to try it myself. Another great episode!
Very top notch video. Entertaining and informative. I learned quite a bit today. Can you stop exaggerating so much when you say "the wOoOoOoOrlds...💁🏻♂️" in the intro?
99.9999% music listeners don't know what a real JX-8P sounds like and could give a rat's a$$ if this sounds like it or not. It's a close enough emulation to classic 1980's sounds in an extremely capable mini module that can be carried and played ANYWHERE with their accompanying keyboard. Do that with most synths!
Thanks for another great episode. The boutiques are a fave by me overall, but I would probably opt for the SE. Future suggestion: The Behringer TD-3 MO.
i'd have any of the simplest(ACB)'s of these, idc about 4voices, but no ACM's, and def no Zcore Cloud sub, i like firmware updates on some things(Tracks, Force), but one thing i like about that Toraiz AS-1 is it's total abandonment by the maker, not gonna update itself out of existence, and no subscription
The fact that some random guy named "Martin Lüders" was able to outdo literally all of Roland with an old freeware plugin is fucking hilarious to me. Martin's vst sounds much better than the boutique, uses a microscopic trickle of CPU (much less than four Roland ACB voices), and it's JX8P patch compatible. Looks like the best solution for JX8P recreation is to (once again) use a generic midi controller with masking tape labelling and a mapping template.
It really does sound nothing like the JX-8P. They may as well have called it 'Dill Pickles' because it bears as much resemblance to dill pickles as it does to a JX-8P. I've owned a JX-8P for thirty years and every demo I hear of this thing just seems to miss the point. Considering resale on JX-8Ps isn't awful even in today's inflated synth market, I don't think I'd be convinced in buying one of these if I was chasing the 8P sound. That said, I like the sound these make - which is quite different from all of the Boutiques that have been issued. I just know one will never replace my beloved JX-8P.
I actually have this one! Honestly it feels a bit superfluous to me - the chorus and FX are pretty good, and the front panel let you get close to the 'classic roland sounds' but it's never something I would go to first. The panel also seems like it would be immediate, but there are enough annoying shift functions that I always forget how to do /something/. I'm planning to get rid of it since it feels like my 707 fills its role more than capably. Totally agree on it being a great synth if you look at it in a vacuum, though.
I guess having Zen-Core style filters, the Zen-MC's should sound similar enough, with the added bonus of being also a dumbed-down integra, a drum machine and a sampler (or sample player in the case of the MC-101. Sampling from USB doesn't count).
Wow. Your videos are packed with content, facts, captions, edits, music, track creations etc.. Let me just appreciate for one minute the amount of time and work spent putting this together.... I quite like the boutique range to be honest. sure there are more compromises than you could shake a stick at, but Id have one in a heartbeat.
Ich bin so froh, dass Roland im Laufe der Jahre etwa drölfzichtausend Modelle veröffentlich hat. Auf dass die wöchentliche Bad Gear Party niemals enden möge! 🥂
In meiner Sammlung von altem Kram ist Roland etwas unterrepräsentiert, wenn ich mal durchzähle. Nur zwei Rackmodule und ein vor kurzem zugelaufener E-86. Trotz schöner Sounds hat mich der Roland-Pitchbender schon in den Achtzigern so gestört, dass ich mich nie wirklich für die ansonsten tollen Geräte erwärmen konnte. Rückblickend ist man immer schlauer…😂
If you want the boutique series, the Roland system 8 is your best bang for the buck. Great effects after the various synth engines, a great engine of its own and of course actual 8 note polyphony
Why do the patches and the first two sample songs sound like Amiga tracker music so much?? That's not an insult, it's just kind of odd. The first example song also has a similar feel to some of the Sunvox example songs as well (Full Moon Night)
Targeted advertising has gotten so weird! During your first jam with _2010_ scenes, viewing was interrupted for a Toyota ad featuring an AI "piece of cake" joke...
Glad you covered the comparison. My JX8P has an issue and I've not looked at it for a bit, but this boutique doesn't sound quite the same, but it's nice in its own right.
Ok, so I decided that I need a battery powered boutique synth to use on the go, should I go for the JX-08 or the JP-06A? I don't really care about the authenticity, I just want to have a nice synth to create with, which should I go for?
I just don't feel these boutiques. For a little more you can get one of Korgs much more fully featured synths, a Hydrasynth, or a Modal. I don't find the Zencore stuff all that appealing sound wise.
Anyone have a JD-08? Which one is more fun? I want to have both of these eventually, but don’t know which one to choose first. Would pair it with a better controller.
I've got the mks-70 + pg800 programmer and i barely ever bother to switch them on any more. This device seems like the epitome of unnecessary. Who wants more tiny "pretending to be a desirable 40 year old analog" boxes? Just get a software version from TAL or Roland Cloud. Easier to use and sounds the same.
I know you don't like it, but I wish Roland would release a mini JP8000/8080. It seems they have released every dog and its toy in some kind of re release, except for that.
Wow dude! The tracks are great! The bassline on Jam 2 is amazing. This synth has some wet ass chorus! Bring a towel folks, or 2 - that's the wettest assed chorus ever installed on a metal box
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Roland's deal atm seems to be packaging those horrible drum machine keys into whatever small size shitboxes they can, then slapping interfaces from their old synths to that.
