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*BALANCE UPDATE* Aeldari vs Imperial Knights | Warhammer 40K Battle Report 

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It's a Knight-off! With Jinx and Bard battling it out to see who has the superior forces, will the new balance data slate rules come in to play?
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@SimonClark
@SimonClark Год назад
At points the dice were telling the story of a stoppable force meeting a moveable object
@bradr9879
@bradr9879 Год назад
Man fletcher your boss bro . This channel by far has the most beautifully painted minis
@8Scientist
@8Scientist Год назад
Ummm. Did you forget 17 feel no pain saves in turn 1?
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics Год назад
We did quite a few off camera to not slow the game down! - Bard
@bakuchidancer
@bakuchidancer Год назад
6:19. Pretty sure Vehicle didn't have movement to fly up, over and down of terrain
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics Год назад
Good thing we measured it in the Studuo then to see that it could 🙂 just under 4" up, 4" to clear it across, and just under 4" down 🙂
@bakuchidancer
@bakuchidancer Год назад
Wave serpent isn't 4" wide. It also rotated adding distance rear point has to travel and at that point wasn't even next to terrain piece so would have to move bit more. Plus width of terrain piece itself
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics Год назад
The rotation was for fun/narrative (which was mentioned in game), as for the terrain, it was measured, it could clear it, and both players were happy for it to happen. There was also an agreement to have the two melee Knights not be shot so they could engage in a duel to the death, which should tell you all you need to know- that feel of fun is the aim of the game today 🙂
@thepaladinstower
@thepaladinstower Год назад
These are NOT titans, Chef)) Otherwise, love your channel guys 🎉
@InternetEthn
@InternetEthn Год назад
"theyre actually dating" lolol
@nunopascoa4183
@nunopascoa4183 Год назад
F you man!!!! What a fantastic ELDAR ARMY!!!!! TOP TOP TOP!!! I ENVY YOU ;) Great battle, just love eldar :D :D :D
@DaSkwire
@DaSkwire Год назад
James's constant pressure on the bottom end of the dice roll distribution curve finally opened a wormhole through to the other side 😅
@RobbieB2606
@RobbieB2606 Год назад
I’ve not watched the report yet but this has me rolling 😂
@Voidkey11
@Voidkey11 Год назад
At first I didn’t get it…. Halfway through… I get it
@Dorsidwarf
@Dorsidwarf Год назад
Always heartbreaking when at the decisive turn of the game your opponent just makes all their saves and you fail all your wound rolls. Luck of the dice always wins.
@KhanTotalGaming99
@KhanTotalGaming99 Год назад
Better lucky than good
@raedkhalil6937
@raedkhalil6937 Год назад
James trying to channel his inner Spider rolls but his James rolls are just too powerful
@Levity31
@Levity31 Год назад
That eldar army looks so dope.
@ronwingrove683
@ronwingrove683 Год назад
This is one of those odd battles that I don't quite understand how the scoreboard got to where it was. Still, great fun all round, and everyone looks like they're enjoying the game, which is more important.
@dr.batsayl
@dr.batsayl Год назад
As with any Servo-skull Chef game, I wish there was just one more camera to catch his facial expressions as he runs camera/directs action/does complex maths/corrects mispronunciations/prompts forgotten rules/herds cats... and so on and so on and so on.
@FireWarrior2013
@FireWarrior2013 Год назад
This is nothing against Jinx directly, more towards GW's game design team. But fuck me those Strands of Fate dice really made this game difficult to watch. Especially with Knights' Turn 1. Such a BS mechanic. I've never felt such sympathetic frustration than I had watching the first 20 minutes.
@erichschoenholtz5170
@erichschoenholtz5170 Год назад
Love this battle report. It's on my bucket list to travel to the studio to play a game with you guys.
@seanfitzy2256
@seanfitzy2256 Год назад
Great stuff! Love to see a Death Guard game with new changes .
@dairewoods2544
@dairewoods2544 Год назад
Would love to see a death guard vs tsons
@meeyatttA
@meeyatttA Год назад
Would be interesting to see a battle of Eldar vs Votann, just to see how much things have changed I would imagine elves are still over their head (quite literally) but these 4 tokens must be nice
@theStamax
@theStamax Год назад
Aeldari are still the dominant faction and while votann did get buffed, they are at best mid tier now so you do the math ^^
@koben333
@koben333 Год назад
As someone who loves Ulthwé, but also loves wraiths (especially melee Wraithknight), this is really something I would love to play too!
@Bodinngy
@Bodinngy Год назад
You’d think the way GW nerfed knights that they had the 70% Winrate 😂, love the energy y’all bring to the Bat reps. Gw need to change eldar detachment rule to either reroll one hit or wound roll not both and overhaul some datasheets.
@Brnolan22
@Brnolan22 Год назад
More points nerfs and change the army rule like you said might actually bring them out of S tier and into A 😂
@Bodinngy
@Bodinngy Год назад
@@Brnolan22 the horror! Not A tier 😂 Seriously eldar type armies are alway strong every edition due to their army archetypes(fast moving,good guns and shenanigans etc) you had eldar strong in 8th with their flyers and minuses to hit. Then drukhari/harlequins/eldar variants in 9th. Down with these knife ears!
@Brnolan22
@Brnolan22 Год назад
@@Bodinngy I’d be happy if they dropped to A tier or even high B, I don’t want them in f tier, but I am just tired of tournaments being -1st place Aeldari -2nd place Aeldari -3rd place Aeldari -Leaving your moms house Aeldari
@Zelingan
@Zelingan Год назад
It's incredible how the Aeldari are tanking more than the Custodes 😅
@valaquenta220
@valaquenta220 Год назад
Yup, eldars are still too strong.
@hammer1349
@hammer1349 Год назад
A lot of synergy for very little cost. Like you can make things stupidly powerful with 2 units which are little cost. That and fate dice are bonkers, just being able to manipulate fixed dice rolls so easily just feels wrong
@rcmwalker1987
@rcmwalker1987 Год назад
Will never understand why they thought taking one of the strongest abilities from 9th, (expert crafter's) and combining it with the strongest abilities from AoS (fate dice), was a good idea.
@Bodinngy
@Bodinngy Год назад
Honestly they should have also changed their detachment rule to only reroll a hit or wound not both among many other things. Praying for the day the knive ears won’t be busted
@andrewhodgkinson6477
@andrewhodgkinson6477 Год назад
​@@Bodinngyhow are they once the fate dice 6s are gone?
@MrSnakeCake
@MrSnakeCake Год назад
@@andrewhodgkinson6477 then they ask their friendly neighborhood Farseer to change a fate dice to a 6.
@nicholaschapogas5296
@nicholaschapogas5296 Год назад
The background "do-dos" when the knight approached the wraith knight made me lol
@CaptJPurdie
@CaptJPurdie Год назад
Liking the new titanic close combat music... very suspenseful 😊🖖
@knightpaladin9841
@knightpaladin9841 Год назад
The Knights have summoned me once again. Love this channel. Hopefully there's a plan to pick up a plastic Lancer or two in the future
@georgebuck3812
@georgebuck3812 Год назад
Great report guys really enjoyed this one great job guys
@78Showboat
@78Showboat Год назад
Was there a glitch in the matrix for the roll off?
@nobodyreally834
@nobodyreally834 Год назад
Glad I'm not the only person who was confused by this.
@ryanbarry5320
@ryanbarry5320 Год назад
I feel like I’m watching the 40K version of medieval times
@enroque34
@enroque34 Год назад
Amazing game, very fun yo see. Those eldar look gorgeous
@shaunsheldon5580
@shaunsheldon5580 Год назад
Should have brushed up on elv and safety 😂
@wolfguar9864
@wolfguar9864 Год назад
Such a fun game , luv to see so much laughter in a game of 40k GJ guys and servo skull :)
@Kevin-pi5si
@Kevin-pi5si Год назад
The helverin does get anti fly on the stubber too. It's a core ability, not a weapon ability.
@Pougli
@Pougli Год назад
Nah, it's a core ability to the autocannon specificaly
@theslarz
@theslarz Год назад
first game of tenth was eldar at 1500 points i got smoked
@KagaiYami
@KagaiYami 9 месяцев назад
no quarters for the eldari! i dont got that kind of change.
@System-Update
@System-Update Год назад
The Eldar nerf worked then...
@Chris-jl6vp
@Chris-jl6vp 6 месяцев назад
Those eldar units are absolutely beautiful.
@anonymoose1352
@anonymoose1352 8 месяцев назад
Sees Knights :) ...Sees Eldar :(
@raphaelperalez2062
@raphaelperalez2062 11 месяцев назад
stop calling me large james it rude!
@InvinciblKillerQueen
@InvinciblKillerQueen 4 месяца назад
Love the paint on those wraith heads
@AKDragonFish3D
@AKDragonFish3D 8 месяцев назад
Very animated gameplay by the players, most entertaining, and their sportsmanship is on point.
@ericlegrue6775
@ericlegrue6775 Год назад
Reroll the damage
@scottcrompton6931
@scottcrompton6931 Год назад
Good fun, thanks!
@swagw5741
@swagw5741 11 месяцев назад
The Wraithknight can have either a titanic ghostglaive or a heavy wraithcannon not both or am i wrong? Great battle non the less!
@goldeneye3119
@goldeneye3119 11 месяцев назад
took a break watching battle reports.... love! the dispay case in the base. really sharp!
@shaunsheldon5580
@shaunsheldon5580 Год назад
That was a great game so much fun 😂
@thomasportait8652
@thomasportait8652 Год назад
No World eaters vs Custodes ? 😢
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics Год назад
Keep your eyes peeled for OnDemand next week
@gustafschonemyr833
@gustafschonemyr833 Год назад
I'm always in for some knights!
@gre3705
@gre3705 Год назад
Am I the only one who winced when the knights head-butted each other? Haha!
@kinginyellow1490
@kinginyellow1490 Год назад
The Eldar won? I am surprised.....said no one this edition. I said earlier today i was not going to watch anymore Aeldari games..i wish i listened to myself. (this is not a knock on TT, they made this batrep super fun! they always do, i love all of them, i am just tired of seeing the OP Aeldari stream roll the rest of the roster.)
@linzeli1247
@linzeli1247 Год назад
It's after the nerf so it's more to show how much the nerf impact the play. I think the problem is the game is picked against knights which also got nerfed hard. Maybe against some army that received buff would make some difference?
@XIIIJerry
@XIIIJerry Год назад
I just skip to the end to see how close the score is in eldar batreps. I don’t watch many.
@MrWizzyfizzy
@MrWizzyfizzy Год назад
This games banter was bloody on point 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼💓
@GamingPaladin
@GamingPaladin Год назад
24:45 "Come and see the violence inherent in the system!"
@Scotchworth
@Scotchworth Год назад
This was one of the most manic battle reports I've seen y'all do in a while, that's including the On-demand videos. Absolut hilarity! Keep up the amazing work ya bosses!
@iandoddsblah
@iandoddsblah Год назад
Am I being daft or shouldn't have rhe Knight gone first in the Aeldari fight phase where they both died?
@iandoddsblah
@iandoddsblah Год назад
I was being daft.. I missed that it had fallen back to charge again!
@RareRiddemz
@RareRiddemz Год назад
8:10 "James rolled sixes!" 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 LMAO
@alexgusev3405
@alexgusev3405 Год назад
Why your IK lose the feel no pain 6+ ability?
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics Год назад
They didn't? Bard was rolling for them all game
@srdies5289
@srdies5289 Год назад
9:58 this killed me xDD
@luuk341
@luuk341 Год назад
Playing the currently, still, strongest army into a newly kneecapped army of knights. This game is going to be utter utter decimation.
@catosicarius3262
@catosicarius3262 Год назад
They havent emptied the backstock of Eldar mini's in the warehouse.
@luuk341
@luuk341 Год назад
@@catosicarius3262 Seems like it
@william3958
@william3958 Год назад
What lets the wraithknight fall back and charge?
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics Год назад
That's the fire and fade stratagem :)
@xagric1840
@xagric1840 Год назад
Shouldn't the Warglaive of gotten the FNP from the Knight detachment?
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics Год назад
He did, Bard was rolling for them
@xagric1840
@xagric1840 Год назад
@@tabletoptactics Ah, okay. Very nice. :P
@Haven_games
@Haven_games Год назад
How was the surfboarding farseer(?) done? Does anyone know?
@stunistus
@stunistus Год назад
looks like left over dark eldar raider and reaver bits.
@MegaApostel
@MegaApostel Год назад
love how you manage everytime to bring fun into these games even when currently strong factions like Eldar are involved
@The_Blackshield
@The_Blackshield Год назад
Titanic Tabletop Tactics tearing it up terrifically? Count me in! :D
@cordial001
@cordial001 Год назад
I love seeing you guys play. You always look like you're having so much fun
@zurran00
@zurran00 9 месяцев назад
more proof wraithguard are extremely overcosted after the nerf. the nerf to the primary rule was unnecessary and stupid. especially with the changes to devastating wounds.
@brothersgrimdark
@brothersgrimdark Год назад
Can you use command reroll twice in on turn? Sorry haven't played 10th yet. Jinx used it on the wave and then again on the big knight?
@hammer1349
@hammer1349 Год назад
Can be more than once per turn but nor per phase
@brothersgrimdark
@brothersgrimdark Год назад
@hammer1349 ahh yeah makes sense
@byrongotcha
@byrongotcha Год назад
I like her
@andrewhodgkinson6477
@andrewhodgkinson6477 Год назад
Did the warlock conclave get a 3 up invulnerable due to cover? Is that right?
@VAB0L0
@VAB0L0 Год назад
They don't, but they get a normal 3+ save, so cover ignores the AP-1. I think this was just a case of saying one thing while meaning the other
@justmakesstuff
@justmakesstuff Год назад
Best game ever. I've not quite finished yet. But Katie's spiraling breakdown has me in stitches
@alsbartrr
@alsbartrr Год назад
Lucky Jinx 😂😂
@MegaOblivionmaster1
@MegaOblivionmaster1 Год назад
I have a theory. The reason why chef has been doing so well in battles in 10th and he has been cursing people's rolls like today with Jynx is because... Sally did come back with James to the studio and Chef found her and made the most evil of bargins to become a true daemon prince of Tzeentch
@longlongman1640
@longlongman1640 Год назад
Let's goooooooo
@1971mav
@1971mav Год назад
It would be nice if GW would make some more wardogs.
@TrebleAmp
@TrebleAmp Год назад
Strands of fate is not fun and ridiculously broken! The core mechanic of the game is rolling dice. Negating dice rolling for garanteed result breaks the game. Also it’s so crap that your opponent rolls all the hits, all the wounds and your opponent just picks up a dice. So demoralising! 😔
@danieyo1
@danieyo1 Год назад
If that was the case SoB would be one of the best armies in the game as well, but they're not. Strands of fate is fine now, it's the rule interactions and datasheets which make Eldar as strong as they are
@LoPro
@LoPro Год назад
@@danieyo1Even Miracle Dice (which are generated throughout the game instead of all up front) aren't enough to save Sisters from their own datasheets. Eldar don't have that problem.
@danieyo1
@danieyo1 Год назад
@@LoPro True!
@The_Blackshield
@The_Blackshield Год назад
I've been saying that about mortal wounds since they turned up: any mechanic that bypasses the core gameplay loop is anti-game and turns it from an interactive process to being that of a bystander.
@andrewhodgkinson6477
@andrewhodgkinson6477 Год назад
You do roll faye dice through, dont you?
@jonathanhaynes9914
@jonathanhaynes9914 Год назад
Good luck, have fun.
@kinginyellow1490
@kinginyellow1490 Год назад
why are Wraith Gaurd hitting on 3s? there data sheet says they hit on 4's, was there a power that gives them +1 to hit? Knowing Aeldari there is one.
@georgesd2167
@georgesd2167 Год назад
Only thing I can think of would be a spiritseer leading the wraithguard (gives them lethal hits and +1 to hit) Only just started watching the BR so no idea if this is the case
@Janusztenzezdun
@Janusztenzezdun Год назад
Spiritseer gives them +1 to hit.
@justinerickson282
@justinerickson282 Год назад
Spiritseer gives +1 to hit. Yeah so basically unless you have precision shots it’s 3s
@Poggle_der_Geringere
@Poggle_der_Geringere Год назад
The two shouldn't have wounded the Wraithknight in the initial clash between the knights but apart from that nothing to complain about, very very entertaining game!
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics Год назад
The Gallant had the Trophy Claim Stratagem active, which is +1 to Wound 🙂
@Poggle_der_Geringere
@Poggle_der_Geringere Год назад
@@tabletoptactics Oh! My bad then, thanks for clarifiying.
@TheCrimsonArchivist
@TheCrimsonArchivist Год назад
@@tabletoptacticsspeaking of this fight did i miss the gallant fighting with the chainsword?
@andaroth96fw71
@andaroth96fw71 Год назад
At 35:45 Jinx rolls the save with cover as a 2+ cover doesn't elminate the -1 ap in this case cause cover can't better your save from 3+ to 2+ That being said, the extra wound would not have mattered at all. Great game. Y'all make the most fun battle reports to watch. Super thematic.
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics Год назад
2+/3+ Svs not getting cover only applies vs AP0 weapons. Anything with an AP of -1 or more you get to use cover against 🙂 Also Wraithguard have a 2+ Sv, which took us all by surprise 😅
@CuriousLumenwood
@CuriousLumenwood Год назад
Most people might not see this but don’t look in this comment section. Almost everyone is being negative and whining.
@FireWarrior2013
@FireWarrior2013 Год назад
Understandably for most. A lot were hoping that the Balance Dataslate was going to reign in a faction that's currently dominating so badly, the recent most tournament (NOVA Open) had 3 Aeldari players in the winning ranks. It's impossible for there not to be substantial salt with a game faction doing THAT reliably well, and to see some changes impact other factions more negatively than they do the problem faction has people's heckles raised for it (stuff like the Dev Wound and Towering Changes didn't really address the problems of fighting Aeldari for example). The team gave thought out reasons for their changes, but many feel they weren't enough to really kick Aeldari off their pedastal. If anything it will have changed 2nd position and under.
@justinerickson282
@justinerickson282 Год назад
Eldar are still close to a 70% win rate. Here’s hoping for January.
@CuriousLumenwood
@CuriousLumenwood Год назад
“still close to a 70% win rate” My brother in Christ the balance dataslate is two fucking days old
@justinerickson282
@justinerickson282 Год назад
@@CuriousLumenwood just watch.. they didnt fix any of the core issues that Eldar were abusing.. just watch
@andrewhodgkinson6477
@andrewhodgkinson6477 Год назад
​@@justinerickson282what about dev wounds?
@XIIIJerry
@XIIIJerry Год назад
@@andrewhodgkinson6477fate dice are just not fun to go up against.
@Aldaris1234567
@Aldaris1234567 Год назад
​@@justinerickson282Towering and Dev wounds were fixed. Low points on strong units was fixed. Not sure how you can say the things they were abusing haven't been fixed.
@malfeas99
@malfeas99 Год назад
So close to first. Curses.
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