Baldur's Gate 3 - Honour Mode Glitchless in  

Heyo everyone! Sorry for the delay in the tutorials, was busy working on this for SGDQ 2024 submissions, but this should be a good enough explanation for the new glitchless route on Patch 6 for a bit. Will finish the other tutorials and stuff this upcoming week now that my workload has lightened a bit, so expect them to come this next week. If anyone has any questions feel free to comment down below to ask!

Just casually finished the game faster than I left the nautiloid

If you are alright by jahera, then you're alright by me

Giant Jaheira jumps into the temple of Bhaal. Throws Orin into the abyss. Refuses to elaborate. Leaves (this world).

I love the fact you explained every moves you did and why, it's very important imo to understand some game mechanics

Amazing. What I love about your glitchless runs is that it's obvious how much work goes in to them. You use item locations, environmental tech, and spells that are so unique and need both practice and deep game knowledge to work in the right ways. Keep up the good work.

Me at 45 minutes on Honor mode: okay, let's go meet Astarion and Gale. Cronos: okay, so we'll drop all these fireworks and... That's game.

Random tip most people don’t know but if you look under the cliff where Astarion is - there is a chest that can be search under a rock with 2 speed potions for free

I love speedruns for the fact that my honor mode run took 50 hours and heres you beating it in 50 minutes. Even after years of watching speedruns im always in awe and they never fail to amaze me. Congrats on the run i hope you can get into SGDQ with it and thanks for bringing it to us.

I followed as closely as i could to do almost exactly what you did. somehow by the end of the run jaheira was seen by someone as i was trying to jump my way across to the brain stem. she died and i had already killed la'zeal so i attempted to spawn in a hierling from withers to be my sudo jaheira. they also died. so i snuck my mindflayered ass up to the stem my own way. scared to death i still used the mage hand/ invis trick as i climbed the brain. invis still worked. made my way to the portal. used levitate to go down to the brain. placed all my bombs/fireworks/a nautiloid barrel and an oil barrel. levitated back up. used fierce perilous stakes on myself. ended my turn and prayed. the brain dropped those orb things put up a shield and back to me. throw the firebomb at the rest of the bombs and Fkn KILLED EM!!!! Thank you for this video. was a lil tricky to follow. a slowed down version would be nice i bet for other people. other wise it all ended up working out, so thank you again Chronos! (i finished in about 3 and a half hours, playing and stopping to watch and rewatch certain moments of the run, like dialog options, level ups, or jump pathing)

Awesome run! Hopefully the bad luck shows the judges you can recover from even the biggest “that never happened” moments. Personal highlight is the strategist inspiration appearing as Jaheira jumps off the cliff 44:10.

"If you're allright by Jahe... take ca..."

Thank you for doing this video on patch 6. It's honestly super inspiring, this was the video that got me off my ass to finally try some speedruns of the game. I doubt it would have had the same effect if I had needed to downpatch.

Glad youtube recommendations finally recommended something good I really enjoy your commentary and I hope to see you at SGDQ

The line between glitch and acceptable cheese is quite thin, it seems! Jump? Clever! Casting mage hand then entering a cut-scene then switching to a dead companion to "unlock" the characters so you can then use the mage hands to throw potions to make them invisible mid-cut-scene? Also working as intended 😀

What a perfect setup. My goal is to do a single playthrough that gets all trophies except dark urge, tactician and honour mode, and following this speed run with your tutorial, it'll clean up the list nicely! Now to find out what version comes on the disc versions. Could always resort to the default patch.

why move the spell icons on the ui each time after casting?

Thanks for bringing this run updated. I like training these run to get to know the game better. I have no intention of competing, but rather learning the techniques. Tks!

How in the world are you able to take out Kethric & Merkle with just 8 and 10 bombs in honor mode??? Its taken me many tries, and at a very minimum 20 bombs each to one shot them. All specs pretty much exactly like yours. How??? Also was curious as to why do you keep moving those items back and forth in between selections?

This is so funny to watch as a regular player lol. Also you have strong "cool university professor" vibes. Subbed

How did 10 smokepowder bombs deal enough damage to kill myrkyl? Also, why was he able to throw them all at once?

"that time I destroyed the elder brain using some fireworks bought by selling ketheric's armor"

Maybe I'm missing a hidden mechanic, but how do ten 3d4+9 bombs do 400 damage? I've barrelmancer'd Myrky before, but I dropped something like 30 bombs, 8 barrels, and a dozen holy waters dropped by an invisible Astarion, who then set the entire mess off with a point blank fire bolt - and wasn't sure it would cut it.

It's like seeing my life flash before my eyes 😂😂

Bro, I lost my honor run on arfurs mansion by traps. Got so pissed of that to compensate, gonna waste a couple of hours (not as much as fucking 60) to do copy this speedrun. Thanks for the tips and ideas!

Wait how was 10 bombs enough to kill myrkul? On average 10 bombs should only do 160 damage as myrkul has 375 😳

Wish I could make that jump to skip the Gauntlet of Shar, but without a cursor on the XBox, just can't get the camera angle to allow the jump. Sad times.

Thank you for the guide. I was able to complete a run after about 30 attempts by following your steps. Aside from making silly mistakes, the major challenges were the githyanki versus emperor fight and the use of invisibility potions towards the end. If the githyanki fight extends beyond one turn and they cast hold on Jaheira, it usually ends badly. And at the end for some reason, throwing the potion doesn't always render the target invisible. It seems more reliable to break the potion with the arm next to the character instead of throwing it, although it could just be my luck. For this reason, I opted to stock up on two additional invisibility potions while purchasing bombs, allowing for two attempts with each character at the end. However, this lengthens the run as it requires accumulating more gold prior to the bomb shopping segment.

Thank you Chronos so much, for using actual version and sharing your knowledge

I do not think it is a bug that you can accidentally detonate smokepowder bombs on a speedrun. It seems like a natural consequence of handling smokepowder in haste.

So it's glitchless... except for the glitches.

I wanted to beat honor mode in one day so I used your video for reference. I’m taking a break at the lower city right now but let me tell you about my two failed attempts. The first attempt was the worst thing ever, I had been searching for speed potions for over an hour, in the end I decided to backtrack to paladins of tyr area and just pick up some hyena ears. All was going well up until the myrkul fight where a bomb exploded in my hand as I wasn’t paying attention to you saying the first batch is glitched. So I started another one (Edit: I also rolled a 1 when calling karniss in this one so very unfortunate) Now in this one I decided to sidetrack a little to get as much exp as possible and get plenty of gold. And for some reason laezel wasn’t at the crossroads so I couldn’t recruit her - didn’t matter, I recruited the rest of the party (although should have just cut gale’s hand because he was painful to deal with + Karlach left so meeh). they came in handy when buying bombs tho, didn’t have to recruit the cleric guy. I decided to go with Astarion to the elder brain. Now when I entered the room where ketheric was, I forgot to separate the party and my tav followed invilisble Astarion and my dumb self decided to use jump to get back where I was AFTER the fight started… I blown up Ketheric and was so excited about it that I saved and then I realised I have no bonus action to drink the haste potion ._. I felt like an absolute moron. Third time’s the charm, everything went smoothly - in the astral prism fight too so I’m hoping for the best for the act 3 ❤ I really enjoy your videos, thanks for guiding us!

you can finish bg3 on honor mode and ask steam a refund, you are a legend man!

congrats on the run!! also thank you for the explanation on the invis last encounter, i never got why my invisibility kept breaking hahaha

Failing the command: drop on the drider is a run ender (reloading on honour mode is definitely considered a glitch as there is no way to do it in game) Requires a decent amount of luck, as well as infinite smoke bomb carrying you (also not a glitch?) but generally pretty entertaining. 100% clickbait title though - needs to be in a different category

When I try throw bombs like you then they explode immediately and killing my character. What am I doing wrong?

God damn it, I died cos I didn’t know the Gortash dialogue options🤬🤬

Thank you, I finally have my golden dice

can you explain how 10 bombs can one shot myrkul and ketheric? you don't seem to have arcane acuity to have a high spell roll.

On current patch, the bombs explode in my hand when I try to throw the stack at Ketheric. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Standing in the same location, all the same setup.

Amazing video and details. Tried myself and got stuck at Ketheric boss fight. 1st was realising what you meant by the first set of bombs will explode in your hand, for those who don’t know, it will legit just explode in your face when you try to throw. 2nd attempt same place, but the bombs did very little damage, like around 1/3 of Ketheric’s health, any tips on this? Was my throwing position wrong?

Has anyone had any luck throwing Orin on controller? for me it's always too far, target blocked or too high.

How is putting a lantern into a box and everyone leaves "glitchless" is beyond me..

Bro, this is awesome. I have loved this game. I beat it a couple times then told my wife I wanted to get the platinum trophy on PS5 (which included beating it on tactician). So I did it. Then I wanted to beat it on Honour mode. And I did it. …. And now I’m wanting to speed run and solo play it, and I’m learning a lot from what you did here. ….you skipped so much, and you were very meticulous on locations of jumps. Wow. When I died at Mykrul my first HM playthrough at 28 hours, I almost gave up. I can’t believe how easy you made that fight. Thanks for the awesome video!

A big thank you chronos, yet another person who would never have obtained their golden dice without you. I improvised the ending thanks to this video

In case anyone is as dumb as me, DO NOT mix the first stack of bombs with the others. I know it was said they were bugged but I didn't know that meant to make distinct stacks to avoid the bugged ones. 💀

16:29 I got to this point on the PS5 but couldn‘t make the jump due to extremely restricted camera angles and I couldn‘t point anywhere that didn‘t say „invalid target“ etc. Is there another spot to jump from? 😢

Thows Bombs at Myrkul doesn't work anymore. Cost me 2 runs.

At the end battle, I did exactly everything you did and still started in combat. I can't figure out why, also lae'zel spawned in the final battle, invisible as well even though she was dead???

IT WORKS! I DID IT TODAY. But i changed some things. I took more invisibility potions, some more bombs... etc. I did it in 5´40 h, chilling. I think that the worst part is Katheric fight, bcs if you dont have the ring equipped, you will fail. I speak spanish and my english is regular but if you have some specific question i can answer... More or less :P

Mate I have approaching 1000 hours in the game and consider myself to be above good. It takes me 48 minutes to decide what class to be.

The one thing that bricked my run and blew my mind as to how horrible the camera is on console is that the jump you make to the entrance to the shadowfell is impossible using a controller. Absolutely terrible camera controls

Thank you for this amazing guide Greetings from Poland😉

Some things any people trying to copy this run should watch out for: - You can triple dash before you even enter Turn Based Mode. This immediately gives you the maximum (4 * base) movement speed that you can achieve with dash actions. This could be useful for making riskier sections less risky (at least 9 more meters of movement vs. dash -> TBM -> dash, and you keep your bonus action). - I regularly found opportunities to use TBM to pause what I was doing so that I could check this video. It seems that the Enhance Leap and Feather Fall spells consume spell slots if they are used in TBM, so anyone who wishes to refresh those buffs should remember to do so before entering TBM. - I accidentally tried to walk to the Nautiloid console during my 1st attempt. Don't do that. Those enemies will absolutely one shot a 5 HP Tav if they don't reach the console within their 1st turn; the character needs to jump to the console immediately after they've looted the 2nd Mind Flayer. - I did not get the speed potions I needed during one of my early attempts. I also failed the Nature check on the rock that supposedly covers a chest with 2 guaranteed speed potions (someone else in these comments described that such a chest is near Astarion - maybe I actually looked in the wrong place, I don't know). Speed potions are...a problem. - Jumping past the nearby enemies to reach the end of Act I was riskier than it looked, even with the Fog Cloud present. There's probably a safer method. - Sending Lae'zel to Last Light Inn with 1 click seems to be as precise as it looks. I had her go somewhere else entirely, and when I tried to carefully extract her so that she wouldn't enter combat with any unexpected enemies, she wandered off into an ambush anyway, because the pathfinding in this game is awful. In fact, I had to revert my save multiple times throughout the run because my characters would try to walk when I was just trying to click a portrait, and they would always choose the most dangerous routes. I had my character literally jump off the map while I was in the middle of clicking elsewhere entirely AND spamming my Escape key to cancel the jump action (which doesn't seem to actually work, even though Escape is the most intuitive key for canceling actions). - I don't think it was mentioned in the video until an inconvenient, later moment (if it was at all), but...players need to be hiding BEFORE they Misty Step out of the pods with Subtle Spell. This is also why we need to aim for the spot that isn't highlighted red (unlike the surrounding areas, which are within enemy vision cones). Misty Step doesn't end hiding, but it DOES end invisibility... - I did not actually have enough bombs for Myrkul even after refreshing the shop as many times as it was refreshed in this video. I had to use one of those "glitched" bombs by having another character (the one that helped Aylin) place it near Myrkul. I was able to have that character disengage and move away from the explosion within the same turn, though their survival may not have mattered. A better solution would have involved stealing gold from Withers (just in case), going through the class change menu, and repeating the process of refreshing the shop so that I could buy bombs until I definitely had enough before leaving Last Light Inn. - When I tried to click on the portal during the Gith ambush, my character walked behind it instead, which consumed the rest of her movement speed. It seems that the safe way to escape the ambush is to jump so that your character lands a bit further from the portal, because the place you have to click to interact with it is actually in front of it. (Why??) - My chance to successfully throw Orin was much lower (25% vs. 36% in the video, IIRC). I got lucky and succeeded anyway, but oof. - Speaking of Orin, I had to use Turn Based Mode so that I could buy time to figure out how to throw her. I had to find a completely different place to put my cursor before the game indicated that throwing her would be fatal, and I still have no idea how to position my character on the altar like that (since clicking the altar just has the character try to interact with it). The video could have been much more clear about that part. - Gortash did not talk to me again after his ceremony. I had to actually go to his office to talk to him and progress further, and there was no waypoint. I'd never been there before, so I had to find it on my own. It wasn't too complicated: right side of the room, at the back (from the door we came from, facing toward the throne), take the staircase, move as though you were within the room below and moving to leave through the door you entered from, enter the door you pass on your way (as though you were heading toward the throne again). - It's not clear which enemies can see invisible characters, and the mess of buildings at the last location before climbing to the final fight formed visuals that were too hard for me to parse. I got lost immediately and wandered into an enemy that can see invisible characters. It looked like an imp. I realized later that I had moved to the left too early, well before the Nautiloid Tanks. Oops? - Having the mage hands throw the invisibility potions means they can miss, which is the last thing you want at the very end of an Honor Mode run. I had them attack the potions instead. The game insists that attacking them can't fail. My experiences have, so far, agreed. Also, the dialogue in this video is way too hard to track. I regularly struggled while trying to determine which dialogue options to choose (when they mattered). A simple cheat sheet overlay would have been nice ("1-2-2" for the final Gortash dialogue after his ceremony, "Spam 1" where applicable, etc.).

I need 14 bombs for Ketheric and 21 for Myrkul. Why?

I love the oversight of allowing people to drop stacks of bombs and throw them. Thats a true “not intended by the dev problem.

Nice. Learned the old route through your vid’s and was wondering how a route on current patch would go. Good stuff!

Thank you! I've tried (and failed!) honour mode multiple times, but thanks to this guide I now have a shiny gold dice 😁. I had to do the Gauntlet of Shar the long way (with lots of cheese) since I couldn't get my Tav to jump through the small gap in the broken stairs but everything else worked on my PS5. Thanks again, these videos are great.

Does this still work ? when i get in the netherbrain fight i'm still invisible but already in combat

I’m just going to copy your build so I can get the achievement as fast as possible

@chronos if you accidentally get into the dialogue with Raph in front of the gauntlet of shar entrance you can attack him to immediately end the dialogue and he'll just disappears. No ramifications for it. It'll save maybe half a second if you accidentally get into the dialogue.

Thanks so much for the commentary! Everything was super easy to follow. I beat it second try 1h 31m in-game time, although I did do some glitches in the final act (kidnapping gortash + orin dev room) playing as gale origin since I did NOT want to mess up the final fight lol. I needed a doable guide for the achievement and you perfectly delivered :D

Dude I’ve had 4 playthroughs and just found out about that southern mountain pass because of this wow

You absolutely safed me on my plat run. I had no idea how to the netherbrain part after invis got patched. Thabk you so much for a quick nice guide. Everything worked on console for me

if anyone try to stack 10 smokepowder bomb to kill myrkul beware, some smokepowder bomb have bug that will instantly explode when throw, so better kept them seperate stack, so you will know some stack have bug smokepowder bomb

Thank you for the run, Chronos! Got my Foehammer Trophy. Took a couple of restarts early on, but then I got the hang of it. Any way I can load a safety save, and change the events to allow me to become the slayer during the run? Post Orin fight, the guy was just mad at me and didn't offer to become the slayer. Cheers! Ran on PC, ~5 hrs total, cross saved to PS5 for trophies.

for anyone wondering how this could be remotely possible it looks like its majority feather fall triple jump and you just literally jump thru the game in under 50 mins

Blew up in my hands ten times in a row so far… what am i doing wrong

Hi all, I manage to do it thanks to this tuto, Small tips if you want to try it, IF mind flayer doesn’t drop you the speed potion (it’s random) you can go to the small cave (below the place where you meet astarion) move a rock and you will find garantied 2 speed potions Hope it helps thank you

Tav lands on the beach. Instantly begins jumping around the forest, looting maniacally. Picks up goth girl along the way. I love speedruns being unrealistically canon.

That explosives bundle that blows up a god... yeah, that puts a smile on my face. And if you think about it, its kinda realistic. No one said its impossible to gather a bunch of high yield explosives in a bag and then lunch that package into someones face.

Bro really played like he was gonna turn into a mindflayer.. I took my sweet ass time

How is throwing an unintended number of bombs at once not considered a glitch? Something I never understood about "glitchless" speedruns. Like it's not really glitchless, just not the glitches chosen by people who design the rules for the category. Seems a bit silly.

@ChronosReturns Thanks for posting this, super interesting stuff! Quick question: have you tried doing the jump in the gauntlet of Shar using a controller? I've tried it on Xbox and it doesn't seem to work, my character just won't jump there and the camera goes all funky.

why do you keep moving bone chill around in your hotbar?

My 1st speed run ive witnessed in bg3. Its great to see the game played this way as well as taking 300 hrs. Cant wait to see more optimal runs

just finished honor mode on around 10 attempts totally only 1 achiv left where u must save golbin but gonna do next year XD

ffs i just bought bg3 recently with balance difficulty, i just beat ketheric with 37hour playtime

worked fine untill throwing bombs. In fact i threw 19 bombs with p1 kateric and he was still alive;//

Does this still work after hotfix 25? I got to the Necrotic Prison and both my characters were silenced, not letting me misty step out. Game Over. 😔

Holy moly did that myrkul fight make me realize that my run for honour mode was done waaaaaaay wrong... lol

Pretty awesome explanation and very well played, I really hope I see you and this run at the event!

I’m inspired

Wow, you can even do it all again and still refund your purchase on steam :D

"Glitchless" Proceeds to use all glitches and exploits in the book...

12:50 you can't jump down there like that on console cuz the camera is re*arded :/

48 minutes? how lol? crazy dude

that orin fight :o

thank you very much. your video is very well explained

With the glitch exceptions does this not just become like the mirrors edge glitchless.

bomb damage had to have been nerfed im using the same amount of bombs on tactician and its not nearly enough

lol patch 6 hotfix 25, they still blow up in your face

Yeah so uh, I thew like 8 bombs in the first round of Kethric and it barely did half damage? Did I just roll incredibly low?

After 4 or 5 tries I was able to complete Honour Mode thanks to this video. Appreciate your work on it!

I am faschinated that you somehow just got lvl 8

holy jesus christ, man is a king among peasants

very cool! going to try it myself!

300 hours completed on 48 minutes holy shit 😂

The smokepowder cheese strat against Avatar of Myrkul has been nerfed. The bombs explode prematurely now and barely makes a dent on the giant skeleton.

Can't be an honor run if you let Yennas cat get killed 😢