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Bale Weight Showdown - Cut VS Uncut Bale Density - KUHN VB 560

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We put the KUHN VB 560 to the test to see what the difference in bale density is between cut and uncut material!
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@marcth37 10 месяцев назад

My friend farmer used straw for cow bedding ;one year he hired another farmer to harvest his wheat .The combine was a rotocut model and it cut the straw;my friend roundbale the straw and he worried that the roundbaler would not make round bale with the cut straw;no wonder it made it perfectly but it made for an easier-to-clean bedding!

@jcorbett63 10 месяцев назад

Refreshing to see both of you in several videos now. Me thinks Hannah is happy as well. Also, seemed like there was quite a bit of hay leaking. I would have thought it would have been caught and somehow stuffed back in the flow. I've enjoyed every one of your videos. Your channel was the first one I subscribed to many years ago with zero regrets. In fact, great praise.

@charlesbennett6242 10 месяцев назад

Great to see both of ya having fun learning about hay quality issues and educating the public at the same time. Keep up the good work ! 🙂

@jeffslaven 10 месяцев назад

I've been following whats been happening in the valley on Travis's channel, and I'm so pleased that you guys could salvage so much! That Kuhn baler really does the business! Great video!

@billwieland8497 10 месяцев назад

Thanks Ryan & Hannah!

@digger5858 10 месяцев назад

Good video Ryan and Hannah enjoy your videos and enjoy seeing both of you in them!!

@derekjensen5918 10 месяцев назад

That was a darn good video and it was very awesome seeing the differences in cut and uncut bales. Thanks to you and Hannah for showing us this and it was very helpful. I like what your doing with your operation and can’t wait to see rest of the harvest and fall videos!!!!

@keithwest2575 10 месяцев назад

Good information. Glad to see the both of you and hope your recovery is progressing as you need it to. Take care.

@busterbailey370 10 месяцев назад

Great to see Hanna

@tonymckeage1028 10 месяцев назад

Great Video Ryan & Hannah, Interesting project! do the knives loose more material onto the ground? I did notice a small pile of grass just in front of the cut bale! thanks for sharing

@HowFarmsWork 10 месяцев назад

Yes it does! That’s because the material is smaller allowing it to fit through the cracks in the pickup. As long as you’re feeding material in the loss is similar to any other baler. I try to start the wrapping as soon as I can once the bale is formed so it reduces that loss.

@tonymckeage1028 10 месяцев назад

@@HowFarmsWork thanks Ryan, yes the wrapping would save heaps!

@eugenealton7270 10 месяцев назад

Love all of your videos Eugene from Ontario Canada 🇨🇦

@patkelly7999 10 месяцев назад

Great job Hannah and Ryan, the Kuhn is a fine ball of a baler for sure👌👍🙏🙂

@MorganOtt-ne1qj 10 месяцев назад

I bought a processor baler a few years ago. What I learned was about the same % increase in weight, waste was reduced, not necessarily because of palatability, but the shorter cut reduced "drag out" from the hayrings. The cattle only got a mouthful, not a huge clump . Definitely use more netwrap because bales will disintegrate if it tears . Lastly, they make near perfect silage, but getting the wrap off is tricky. You may be saying goodbye to Jane Doe!

@charleslynch7274 10 месяцев назад

Definitely an interesting comparison I definitely learn some things from this video thanks Ryan

@brittblanton8342 10 месяцев назад

Great video Ryan and Hannah, very informative thank you 👍

@fazerainbow5674 7 месяцев назад

awsome video ryan thumbs up and shared

@waterskiingfool 10 месяцев назад

That was a decent difference in the bales.

@frankysmith4624 10 месяцев назад

🚜🚜🧑‍🌾 Great video Ryan also great looking hay, IMHO cut hay would be better than uncut, easier for the cows to eat, keep up the great work, Best wishes to you and your family 🚜🚜🧑‍🌾🦝

@davidthorne2129 10 месяцев назад

Hi from oz Ryan. Although I’ve run mostly Krone gear (I consider it the best) here are some basic rules. Keep those knives sharp. Sharpen at least every 500 bales (for 4x4 bales). If edge of bale bulges out or falls out, remove the outside knife on each side. This will hold the bale together. When not cutting the knife slots fill with hay material and will not allow knives to rise up. So check and clean slots e very time you go to raise the knives. Some dealers have the grinding jig and wheel to sharpen and charge fee to do. The jig is faster and easier than large angel grinder but are fairly expensive to buy.

@lorraineallen1366 10 месяцев назад

Your compaction pressures will affect the volume, even if size is set the same. The janedoe may be set different(less compaction), as well as springout if netwrap is not holding the shape. We found this to be the case on our Claas Uniwrap and our Lely-Welger. Compaction pressure will change your end bale size. Good video tnough.

@HowFarmsWork 10 месяцев назад

The JD was maxed out and the KUHN was at a 4/10. I lowered the density on the KUHN because it’s a newer baler.

@JoshRidgelyFarms 10 месяцев назад

Mind me asking what you’re recording set up is? Quality is great!

@nalley6815 10 месяцев назад

I wish I had a baler with knives. I’m in Kentucky and we have a lot of Johnsongrass that usually gets fairly stemmy before it’s able to be cut. That would help tremendously! Now what I’d like to see is a Deere baler with the big pickup that has knives VS the Kuhn VB560

@bryanginder5903 10 месяцев назад

Ryan you have to figure in the newer baler and the knives cost with that!! Good video Ryan!

@jamesberry4438 3 месяца назад

You should get the claas Belair

@JenorvinTV 10 месяцев назад

Watching

@clinthochrein888 10 месяцев назад

Bale scale is very curtious with a big HELLO, interesting on the difference between cut or uncut bales.

@23431 10 месяцев назад

I can’t wait for harvest videos

@HowFarmsWork 10 месяцев назад

Should start Friday!

@ianhaggart1438 10 месяцев назад

Great vid.. so taking into mind how long the blades last before replacement would it save any money on the less bales... nice seeing it used though... but fun when the decide to stick in when the nets going on... 😮😅 yip our NH did that yo keep us on our toes about 8 yeaes ago... made nice beding bales though.. stay safe 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@SimonKL11 10 месяцев назад

That baler makes a really nice bale😁👍

@thomaskjellin9161 10 месяцев назад

Thats a big difference

@benjaminclingaman7551 10 месяцев назад

Hey Ryan I did not know There was a difference in density In the bails.

@nashcobb3056 10 месяцев назад

thank you

@appel500 10 месяцев назад

Really like Kuhn!

@AgrarfanLP 10 месяцев назад

Did you purchase the Kuhn baler, the Kuhn mower and/or the Kuhn wrapper? And do you currently have 3 balers on the farm?

@jimcox6687 10 месяцев назад

You go girl

@b2617 10 месяцев назад

Why is round baling so common? You'd think square bales would be all around better for stacking, transport etc

@Kevstermartin 10 месяцев назад

If storing hay outside wrapping 4 wraps with net is a good idea. The university of Tennessee did a study storing bales outside and with 4 wraps they determined that you can not justify the expense of any form of cover for the small amount of loss you experience. Even after sitting outside for one year.

@galegregory97comcast 10 месяцев назад

You tell him

@danvanhefty4689 10 месяцев назад

the biggest difference you will see in feed consumption, smaller pieces should yield more in the mouth and less on the ground...which also means more money in your pocket. I think a flat bunk feeder to unroll these bale would also mean less waste.

@wagon9082 10 месяцев назад

Good Video

@hfff1 10 месяцев назад

Thank God, this wasn't about bale circumcision! Yes, my mind has gone round the bend.

@Blackwellll3066 10 месяцев назад

I personally think using knives to bale cut bales for the farm is great....to me where the knives will make a huge difference is when ya haul bales with big red an extra 9,180lbs makes a difference if ya decide to sell bales.

@e.a.bfarms 10 месяцев назад

Just a thought, max out the density on both balers to do a comparison. That deere baler can make a tighter bale then that.

@HowFarmsWork 10 месяцев назад

Actually, the density was maxed out on the JD baler and the KUHN was at a 4/10 density to make them more comparable. New balers using belts will always make a tighter bale when comparing max densities.

@e.a.bfarms 10 месяцев назад

@HowFarmsWork I agree the kuhn is going to make heavier bales, i just think you should have talked about density when weighing. And i think it would be a good comparison to max them out and see the difference. Also, it would be interesting to see max size weight to see the heaviest bale the kuhn can make.

@HowFarmsWork 10 месяцев назад

@@e.a.bfarms I get you. Possibly in a future video I can discuss it more. This video was to show the difference between cut and uncut bale weights & densities than to try and compare it to our baler. I just wanted to throw it in because I knew someone would ask

@cthomas1864 10 месяцев назад

When i saw the picture of the 82 with the kuhn baler i thought wait is this an old video. nope

@ryanwaege7251 10 месяцев назад

Per'ner exactly 16% extra weight Cut vs Uncut. Uncut also had higher moisture, so your dry matter difference is actually a bit over 17%. I'm guessing the Cut will continue to lose moisture and the Uncut will not change much.

@doclull1989 10 месяцев назад

Hey Ryan!! Hey Hannah!! Is this something Kuhn has just came out with?

@davidthorne2129 10 месяцев назад

European balers had knife option 40 years ago. The US is at least ten years behind Europe in fodder conservation machinery.

@chrisrickets9873 10 месяцев назад

Question even tho you have more hay in the bale cows are still gonna waste part of the bale even if you have less bales will that small amount of material more stuffed in get you through the winter? Would be in interesting comparison on two groups of cows

@HowFarmsWork 10 месяцев назад

Cutting will reduce the loss associated with what they won’t eat. Adding density to a bale will make them last longer.

@joem1172 10 месяцев назад

Just curious how the kuhn bales would compare with a jd baler that has the pre-cutter option on it.

@HowFarmsWork 10 месяцев назад

Unfortunately I can’t compare as we’ve never been able to try!

@hal8517 10 месяцев назад

By being denser and excluding more air, does that affect the fermentation time of wrapped bales?

@HowFarmsWork 10 месяцев назад

I am unsure about fermentation time, but denser bales will have less oxygen, resulting and more fermentation and less energy loss, resulting in higher quality feed.

@daleley7645 10 месяцев назад

Will the cut bales cut down on feedlot waste? Makes a real nice bales.

@HowFarmsWork 10 месяцев назад

That’s the theory. Cutting them increases the palleability and *should* reduce the loss associated with cattle taking bites, pulling their heads away from the feed and dropping it on the ground.

@larrysheriff8251 10 месяцев назад

Hey Ryan and Miss Hannah and I think Travis, I hope Yall can cet a Kuhn Bailer every Year or buy a demo at a great price. Maybe every one will allow a orange piece of equipment on the bought page. Don't know if 3 bailers, naw the Kuhn and the 569 is more than enough. How many bails? Oh that was Travis's question on The Rest of the Story. My friend I hope you are improving daily. Take Care, Take it Easy and TRUST JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@thomasleonard1846 10 месяцев назад

If it is the best baler, why do you have two JD balers?

@HowFarmsWork 10 месяцев назад

Because we buy used, never new.

@thomasleonard1846 10 месяцев назад

@@HowFarmsWork You mean other than the JCB and JD Skidsteers! Tandem trailer! - lol

@HowFarmsWork 10 месяцев назад

@@thomasleonard1846 Got me there 🤣 Those were special cases though

@user-iu2qi5oz5e 10 месяцев назад

little over kill on tractor

@jamesberry4438 3 месяца назад

Dose hi Hannah ride horese

@ninjanana1272 10 месяцев назад

👍👍❤

@martymurphy7477 10 месяцев назад

Cool Video #1

@joshbutterfass5251 10 месяцев назад

Every time I watch one of your videos or one of your brothers videos it sounds like you both are trying to be salesman which I don’t understand why you’re like that

@HowFarmsWork 10 месяцев назад

Not sure why he would come across like that, especially since he definitely isn’t sponsored.