@@wide_awake No idea what homeboy is talking about, but Nate played guitar in the Gateway District as a "side project" which is/was Soviettes/Salteens/Rivethead peeps and they rip. Try a search for "Gateway District - Run Away." Maybe dude didn't like Rivethead? But that was before BP so hard to call that a "side project." Someone is in Partial Traces and while it isn't necessarily the same sound as BP, they rip as well. Long story short, Janoy has no idea what they are talking about.