"It'll be fine, it'll be great. America just got done with a war where they spent half of it touching Britain's boats, they're down with this whole boat-touching deal." "Didn't they turn trading vessels into military ships because the British Navy kept touching them?" "... Touche." "... Also, am I the only one hearing John Adams laughing?"
An anecdote about the sheer stretch of Barbary pirate attacks - about 15 years ago I went on a hiking trip to the Faroe Islands with my dad, and on the way out of the capital of Torshavn, we found an old star-fort with a (much newer) lighthouse and some old cannons. Being a history buff, I had to investigate, and found an info plaque: Yes, originally constructed in the 1580s to ward off *raids by Barbary Pirates*. In the frickin Faroe Islands. ** Before someone calls me out, I will note that the Star Fortress earthworks are obviously not from the 1580s, and neither was the lighthouse that was there, but apparently the original fort on that spot was from that period.
Don’t forget, the War of 1812, that literally began because British naval vessels were impressing American citizens. The term Shanghaied came from this progress. They’d get Americans drunk, then they’d wake up on a British ship and wouldn’t be allowed near land for years. It was essentially state sponsored kidnapping and enslavement.
More like a jealous ex wife canceling your insurance because you finally had enough of her nonsense, and passive aggressive behavior and moved on to better things.
"Ha-ha! Saudi Arabia just killed the Petro Dollar! America's done!" US Navy: "Very well. I guess we'll take our cruisers and go home" Barbary Pirates: "Yo-ho! Yo-ho! Shipping insurance is about to go through the roof!" "Huh...why is everything 5 times as expensive as it already was?"
You omitted the part about how Caesar was "merciful" towards the pirates he had crucified. I believe crucifixion was a torturous method of execution because the condemned would suffer for days and Caesar had the throats of the pirates slit to shorten their suffering.
31:00 The oldest commissioned ship is HMS Victory but it is not afloat. Even though it is on a permanent dry dock it is the Flag ship of the First Sea Lord & Chief of Naval Staff.
Yes, more pirate history please. There is so much misinformation about them all over the place. Another great pirate historian on YT is the GoldandGunpowder channel. Great stuff over there.
This is a fantastic style where one did the research and the other asks questions. It makes this feel very natural and normal conclusions someone would make and then ask about are questions she asks him. It’s a great system you guys have for this video!
This is a subject that I'm really interested in; I did a paper for 11th grade history on the Barbary Wars. While I drew some interesting conclusions in said paper I didn't feel like I'd gotten the whole picture. Thanks for showing me more of the picture!
Some interesting information that I found missing in the video. 1)Christians were also carrying out piracy activities in a similar way. For example, the Knights of Rhodes and the Knights of Malta. In fact, the Barbaros brothers, who organized all these barbary states, got into the pirate business as a result of being kidnapped by the Rhodes knights while they were merchants. 2) Changing religion and switching to the other side is a very common situation. In fact, there are people who change their religion a few times and switch sides a few times. 3) Slaves could rise to the top and become captains, even one of the Ottoman admirals was an Italian sailor who started his career by being captured as a slave: kılic ali pasa. 4)In the early period (14th and 15th centuries), oar-driven ships were used, not sailboats.
Special note about the USS Constitution, we have a forest here in Indiana to service lumber for her. She is classy and only takes the best lumber! White Oak i believe. Also, Gabby and I have the same dark dorky humor apparently 😂
Hey @historyofeverythingpodcast, Love your videos! Though not quite pirates, how about a video on German Commerce Raiders during the World Wars, or maybe even blockade runners?
I just commented that above! It was kidnapping and enslavement, just state sponsored. That’s why I always laugh when the British get on their moral soapbox about slavery. 1) the vast majority of slaves brought from Africa in America happened under the British, and 2) they continued to enslave foreign nationals on their ships well into the 19th century.
We have 11 super carriers (CVNs). The only other nation with operational CATOBAR carriers is France, with the Charles de Gaulle. If you consider the America and Wasp classes, which are capable of carrying F-35B's, that brings the number up to 20. By those same standards, the rest of the world has 29. So literally 40% of the entire world's carrier forces belong to the US. 18 of those 29 belong to other NATO states, South Korea, and Japan. The numbers are decidedly lopsided.
Morocco was not a vassal of the ottomans, it never fell to the ottoman empire, in fact it was their rival in north Africa, it also provided protection to US ships from the Barbary states at one point
Piracy is still big in the Malacca Straits, which borders Malaysia and Indonesia and is the main thoroughfare to Asia via Singapore from Europe and Africa
I visited the USS Constitution in Boston, and for 40 bucks I got to raise a American flag from the ship and keep it. I also got a certificate of sort that confirmed the flag was hoisted on the Constitution and it was signed by the ship's Commander
Well there are some interesting smaller pirate histories....you have Bugi pirates (thus Boogiemen) in SE Asia and even a couple years ago the area around Sumatra was a hotspot but was just overshadowed by Somalia, you have your Gulf of Guinea pirates, some interesting Japanese pirates both very early in their history and red letter stuff later, and going back to Rome there are some interesting ones including a city on the S Coast of now Turkey that kept coming up as a pirate haven for a couple centuries...Just west of the little 19th Armenian states but the name escapes me...C something.
Do you mean Cilicia? I do think he mentioned them at one point, when he talked about the late Roman Republic as Pompeius had this Imperium maiore or something to fight against those pirates from Cilicia.
great podcast. thank you for the work. but i hoped you'd get more into the detail of berbary fleets. they have some very famous captains, like the one who was responsible for getting all the muslims and the jews out of Spain. after they took it back from the muslims. and historically speaking these personals went to war against each other a lot so that would be a great topic to delv into. but none the less, amazing work.
I would really love to see a video on piracy in Southeast Asia, or really just Southeast Asian history in general. It's one of the most important trade hubs both contemporarily and historically, yet it's all too frequently overlooked by historians. It's also one of the few places in the modern world that has had a resurgence in piracy, though that does seem to be a growing trend across the globe.
Another group to look at are the Illyrians, beyond the Caesar kidnapping. It led to multiple wars with Rome, even before they had control over the Italian peninsula, and would be the first step towards invading the Greek city states in the east.
The French are always good for that… See wartime France and the Philippines during WW2. It’s funny, a tiny, fairly poor country like Bulgaria showed far more moral fortitude that France ever did.
@andyfriederichsen if you’re being sarcastic, I apologize…. If you’re serious, then you need to open a history book. The French collaborated with Japanese forces in the Philippines, facilitating the torture, experimentation , and murder of tens of thousands of innocents. They did the same in France, collaborating with the Nazis to steal and murder French Jews. French police, without Nazis oversight, rounded up Parisian Jews, sent them for holding at the central Train station, then shipped off the adults to the death camps leavings the children behind to be shipped later to those same death camps. The French ultimately decided it was cruel to ship parents to their deaths separately from their children and from then on, sent everyone together to the camps to die. That’s what the French were doing, the actual ones trying to liberate France were a minority and many were betrayed by their fellow French who were enjoying life under the Nazis. That is all historical fact, not conjecture. The experiments the Japanese conducted in the Philippines defy humanity, I doubt Filipinos have forgotten.
Not very big but a famous German Pirate ist Klaus Stoertebeker or " Nikolaus" Storzenbecher . He was later killed by the hanse. But i belief there ist not much information in him Just some folk lore and stuff. Born around 1360.
Speaking of Barbary Pirates, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyida_al_Hurra Pirate Queen of Morocco in the early 1500s Would love for you to cover her. Honestly she deserves a full on Movie.
there is an essential aspect that you did not mention, those pirates were providers of goods but had to sell them to do the trade, for some goods, they needed far trade zones so pirates and investors and the States are some parts of the deal. traders even smugglers are so important. My ancestors were among these traders, since they were Shi'a they could sell goods to Iran until the British bombardment of Algeria in 1816 which made my greatx4 grandfather flee to Iran.
After having watched this I want to get my dad a book about the barbary pirates for his birthday, but I don't know what book to get him, so any recommendations?
I waited, patiently, for 33 minutes to hear my beloved USMC hymn referenced. Let's not forget the Marmaluke sword that USMC officers wear as part of more ceremonial uniforms (I was Not an officer, just another low enlisted that only dreamed of the much more pedestrian NCO sword) was gifted to Lt. Presley O'Bannon by the Pasha of Tripoli, after rescuing US sailors of the USS Philadelphia from pirates that the Pasha may have had some ties with. And Stayuki, if you would please, perhaps consider a small birthday present to my Corps? Born in a tavern Nov 10, 1775, there's a lot of really neat history there. Imagine all the rabid history buffs you'll attract, as Marines are drilled in the history and heritage of the Corps so we all know just enough to argue loudly about it. Wait...did I make it seem like a bad thing? It's Not!
@@Nicola.M7 I can not see how it was a response. Horrible things can develop similiarly and independently from one another. Slavery was in the period of the Early medieval age/the first centuries of Islam quite commonplace. Everyone did it (which does not make it right), yet everyone knew it was incredibly cruel (shown by the texts specifically stating, that one should aquire their slaves [if one aquires them at all] in foreign places). You saying it was a "response" to something else is quite weird. As far as I can tell, it was simply an archaic tradition that provided cheap workforce and servants, which is why it was so commonplace. Now, if you say, that the Atlantic Slave Trade was worse, as it was not only slavery, but slavery combined with racism, that did not allow black people to ever escape their situation (until the abolition of slavery and even then racism was and is a major issue) I would see a point that you could make here. But overall the major muslim countries (Arabia, Ottoman Empire, Persia and its successores, Northern Africa) did not directly pay the toll in young people being shipped to America. On the contrary, it would take Europe until the 19th century to become a threat and colonize Africa and some but not all of the stated muslim realms. Until then these countries were more than capable of defending themselves against Europe and posed a threat to them (as in they could wage war and win, I am not saying they looked for opportunities to attack Europe at any time, that, as always, heavily depended on leadership and general context). So how would their access and treatment of slaves be a response to something heinous the Christian world did... and not even to them? TLDR: Why would it be a response, when slavery was a thing in the arabian and muslim world before christianity and the Atlantic Slave Trade?
@@askedoutofcuriosity3247 It is also a matter of scale, people generally don't realize the true extend of the horrors of colonisation. We are talking about millions dying in a very short time, whole economies stripped of any self-governance and forced to extract their resources to fund the economic development of countries around the world, ethnic cleanzing and complete removal of the local culture, etc. Comparing the arabian slave trade with colonization is stupid, as colonization was much MUCH worse in the 200 years it existed than the arab slave trade (or any other slave system for that matter) in 1000 years
@@hamzaayaz7482 Ohhh, I agree that the scale and timeline were in comparison to the timeline of arab slave trade worse, yet that was not what my comment was about. I answered to someone who seemingly has deleted his comment in which he stated that the arab slave trade was a "response" to the atrocities of the Christian realms. That made no sense to me (as in how can it be a response if it was already there before rhe west really got started with crusades and colonisation. Furthermore I do think that while Europe has been second to none in scale of its atrocities (though there are some that are not far away) an atrocity remains horrible even if it is "less bad" than another. So the Atlantian Slave Trade was horrible but even if it was worse that does not make the arab slave trade good in comparison. It is just less bad, but still bad. I mean... slavery overall is bad no matter who does. One type of it being worse does not exonerate the Rest.
The first Barbary War was such a shitshow with weird crossovers. US gets pressed by Tripoli they figure hey let's blockade Tripoli when the US pull up they find Tripoli already blockaded by a Swedish squadron of 3 heavily armed frigates all carrying between 50-90 guns, they later sued for peace earlier than the Americans after getting back several prisoners of recently captured ships.
Britain built very few of the 1st rate ships. They mostly built the 3rd rate ships for speed and not needing to spend a ton of cash on 1 ship. The French would do impressment to Americans as well. Not to the extent of the Brits though.
This is gonna be an unpopular comment @stakuyi i know it. Here in SEA / Sinosphere, cultural groups here made shiptons of treasure from piracy 😂 now, one big bully in the region makes a full throwback as to how some of its historical cultural groups made its profession 😂
Impressment sounds like it would clean up this homelessness crisis we got going, maybe we oughta dress it up as progressive and bring it back. Don't do drugs kids, or the government will kidnap you to work on a boat.
I like how Gabby talked about the optics of kidnapping people to fight in your war. Russia is currently doing that in the Ukraine with Ukrainian citizens in areas they have captured.
So the French are "Corsairs" while the Berber are "Pirates"? Don't you think that is a bit biased? They both were corsairs and literally doing the same thing...
Extremely dumb question but was there any American Pirates? I am going to assume there was never a American pirate since well the time that America came around the golden age of piracy was finally over and we were finally getting into that sort of day of Technology where a lot of ships hide away the fight back and weren't just floating rafts.
The US paid a "tax" for the right of passage across the Gibraltar straight. I am Algerian and we don't consider them as "pirates" as they have protected all the passing ships apart from those that caused issues.
